YTSEJAM Digest 3746
Today's Topics:
1)
by jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
2) Re: META SECTION, Hoolow Vid, Jon the weak link
by YtseJim <YtseJim@DreamT.org>
3) LDTC: Lord Rosse
by Lord Rosse <lordrosse@yahoo.com>
4) sounds
by Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
5) instrumental show
by PERCGR8 <PERCGR8@aol.com>
6) stuff
by Pat Daugherty <PDaugher@bdm.com>
7) Iowans going to Chicago
by "Todd O. Klindt" <pendragn@netins.net>
8) More on LTE
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
9) Re: Instrumental show
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
10) DT opening band (NMBC) :-)
by "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com>
11)
by "Odom, C. Brett" <cbodom@fedins.com>
12) Re: DT opening band (NMBC) :-)
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
13) [Fwd: FW: Male Pig Quiz]
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:23:40 -0400
From: jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <v01540b00b15981586a57@[128.197.7.91]>
Regarding _Roll the Bones_ tour bootlegs:
There's a decent one called _Atmospheric_. I have a cassette copy
of it. It's from the Netherlands; I'm not sure which city. I don't
remember the date offhand either. I think it's very hard to find; I've
never seen one besides the copy I dubbed. I know that the label (Crystal
Cat) has a good reputation for their Bruce Springsteen bootlegs.
WARNING: SPOILER
>This is the setlist from night #2 of the down under tour. VH is famous
>for changing the setlist by two or three songs every night, so if you
>are going to any of the shows the set could be different. This just
>gives an idea of what to expect. Only one month till they hit the States!!
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
For those (like me) who follow these things, the set list for the
first night was the same, except "Romeo Delight" was played instead of "I'm
the One."
(Don't worry, I won't post every night's set list.)
>Hi, I am the guitarist of a new progressive band out of Boston MA. We
>are called Meta Section.
A progessive band out of Boston? That I've never heard of? (This
city might not be as bad as I thought. Extreme did come out of here. I'm
sure the _Phoenix_ won't pay any attention to you, though.)
Actually, something much more unlikely would be a progressive band
out of Boston featuring Jeff Falk, which may actually happen very soon. Of
course, the key word is _might_, so don't get too disappointed yet.
Jeff Falk
jefffalk@bu.edu
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:28:52 -0400
From: YtseJim <YtseJim@DreamT.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: META SECTION, Hoolow Vid, Jon the weak link
Message-ID: <3533D514.35BC681@DreamT.org>
> From: Wilson Layne Lowery <pnut@bu.edu>
> Subject: NEW PROG BAND: META SECTION
>
> Hi, I am the guitarist of a new progressive band out of Boston MA. We
> are called Meta Section. We have gotten quite a positive response from
> many Dream Theater fans. Check it out. Our music has been described as
> a mix between "DT" and "The Gathering". Go to our web site at
> http://members.xoom.com/METASECTION/meta.htm
Anybody who has not downloaded their demo mp3s...DO SO NOW!This band is awesome and
should not go unnoticed.
Check out their page, and see what they are about.
you can also get the mp3s at my site here ---> http://ytsejam.hartford.edu/ftp.htm
> From: "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Hollowed Years video
> Why don´t we all in the jam (and I mean ALL OF US) e-mail to eMpTyV and request
> the video? It won´t take more than 10 minutes to do it, and it would surely be of
> a lot of help. So don´t be lazy and start e-mailing right now.
Wow, why didn't anyone think of this before.....oh wait..WE HAVE!
every since MTV dropped Hard rock and Heavy metal from the rotation
EVERYONE has been e-mailing their requests but they refuse to listen
to our pleas....basically , because their ain't no $$$ in it for them....
and with regards to Jon Oliva being the weak link in Savatage?
please do some research into the band before making some stupid
comment....You have no examples to support your statement.
So please show us your reason for saying that, besides his vocal
ability...
take care!
jim
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lord Rosse <lordrosse@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LDTC: Lord Rosse
Message-ID: <19980414213245.10088.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com>
Hi there!
First off (1) I would of course like to express my awe of the Liquid
Tension-album. What a piece! Then (2) I'd like to kindly ask if anyone
really knows the street date of the Sheehan/Sherinian/Howe/etc
project? No one over here can tell, it seems. Also, I haven't really
heard anything on what the lounge version of UaGM really is?!?
(3) shameless plug: For once, as an old-time-jammer, I'm going to
pollute the list with NDTC and self-indulgence. Please kill me.
Tomorrow night, wed 15 april at 21:00 (9 pm) both my bands, Lord Rosse
and SuperApes, play at the club Studion (S:t Eriksplan 4) in
Stockholm, Sweden.
(4) usual disclaimer: "We're not prog so-and-so blah blah". Lord Rosse
is Bowie + Purple + Beatles + Floyd... SuperApes is Hendrix + Verve +
Miles Davis...
If you happen to be anywhere near, please drop by.
You can visit the Lord Rosse home page at
http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry.
Back to your scheduled programming...
--- /Mats Rydström - d94-mry@nada.kth.se - lordrosse@yahoo.com ---BTW, anyone did get a decent recording of the DT gig in Stockholm, the 2nd of March? If so, please drop me a line. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:49:50 -0400 From: Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: sounds Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980414174950.006a1cf4@scott.skidmore.edu>
Well, I have these sounds I recorded from the DTIFC CD...most of them are the guys being really silly (LOTS of Mr. Portnoy!) and goofing off. Is anyone interested in these? I was pondering zipping them up and putting them on my website, but, a) I'm not sure if I'll have enough space, and b) they're in .wav (Windoze) format. I'm using them right now...fun fun fun.
Uhhh, Beavith, how the fuck do we do thith? ;)
Erica
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erica Bonomi, ebonomi@skidmore.edu Deedlit or Deedo on irc.dreamt.org 2112 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.skidmore.edu/~ebonomi/ Check here for the mp3 of the week! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:43:08 EDT From: PERCGR8 <PERCGR8@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: instrumental show Message-ID: <ab0c02c9.3533d86e@aol.com>
Does anyone know if an instrumental show such as the one Mike P. tried to pull of at the Nottingham show will or would ever happen. I'm sure this has been thought about by more people than me and i was just wondering if anything will ever come of it. I agree with the person who stated that they would sell thier soul for that bootleg. And if i am the first person to say something about this then let us all think about it and MAKE IT HAPPEN BABY!!! Well thats all i have to say. Take care all you jammers and keep good music alive!!
Dave
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:54:46 -0400 From: Pat Daugherty <PDaugher@bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: stuff Message-ID: <3533DB26.EB717AAD@bdm.com>
>being from the Minneapolis Area....just to let all you Dream theater fans >Know that when our professional basketball team the Minnesota Timberwolves >are announcing the starting line ups they fuckin crank Metropolis-part I >off Images and words......recently back last November I got to talk to >derek before a sold out First Ave. show and told him that they play that >song and he had absolutly no knowlege of it....can anyone tell me how The >T-Wolves can do this without permission of DT...don't get me wrong both the >band and the wolves are an awesome compliment to each other........D
Um, they can play DT just like any of us is allowed to do.
>From: "Odom, C. Brett" <cbodom@fedins.com> >To: YTSEJAM@ax.com >Message-ID: <Megw.2099780@persia.fabrik.com> > THIS IS MY FIRST TIME WRITING AGAIN SINCE I GRADUATED COLLEGE. I HAVE > RECEIVED THE LAST 7 OR 8 EDITIONS, AND HAD JUST ONE THING TO SAY. CAN > WE DROP THE WHOLE THING ABOUT MIKE BAHR? EVERY SINGLE THING THAT I > HAVE READ LATELY HAS BEEN COMPLETELY ABOUT MR. BAHR, WITH VERY LITTLE > DISCUSSION ABOUT DREAM THEATER OR OTHER BANDS. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A > DIGEST FOR DT JAMMERS.
Too bad this wasn't your first time writing with the CAPs lock OFF.
> BY THE WAY, I DID SEE WHERE SOMEONE WROTE ABOUT JAXX OVER IN VIRGINIA. > I JUST MOVED BACK TO INDIANA FROM PENNSYLVANIA. WHILE IN PA, I SAW > FATES WARNING AT JAXX. I WAS UNABLE TO SEE DT THERE IN JANUARY, BUT I > HEAR THEY HAD THE SAME LINEUP AS FATES. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY > INFORMATION ABOUT ONE OF THE BANDS THAT WAS WITH THEM, DIVINE REGAL? > I HAD NEVER HEARD OF THEM, BUT THOUGHT THEY WERE INCREDIBLE. THEY > WERE SOLD OUT OF THEIR CD THAT NIGHT, AND I CANNOT FIND IT ANYWHERE, > OR ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.
Wow, DT had the same lineup as Fates? I was there and didn't even notice.
Divine Regale is a prog metal type band on Metal Blade. Their first cd Horizons may be tough to get but their 2nd Ocean Mind can be found anywhere Metal Blade is sold.
NP:Jason Becker-Perpetual Burn -- |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email : pdaugher@mcl.bdm.com | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |===================================================================| | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" -- X-Files | |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:52:21 -0500 From: "Todd O. Klindt" <pendragn@netins.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Iowans going to Chicago Message-ID: <3533DA95.31F6@netins.net>
Are there Iowans that are definately going to Chicago on the 13th? I would love to go but I'll have to work the next day so I don't want to have to stay up all night driving back. Ideally there would be somebody wanting to leave from Des Moines about noon on the 13th for Chicago. If somebody's interested in car pooling or something, let me know.
thanks, tk
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:02:32 -0400 From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net> To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: More on LTE Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980414180232.006901c0@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Neal remarked:
>One more comment on LTE...the dropoff towards the end of 3 Minute >Warning is a really big blemish...I wouldn't say it ruins the track but >it's noticeable...is there any reason they couldn't have mixed that part >differently to cover the difference in sound?
This is interesting because I think that's one of the really cool things about that. I played it for my roommate during a long roadtrip; when the sound cut out for a second he looked askance at the CD player, then it cut back in. I had to laugh at the expression on his face; he wanted to know if CD players could eat CDs like tape players eat tapes, because that was what it had sounded like for a second! I explained, and he got this big grin and said that that was the coolest thing he'd heard in a long time. I have to agree -- now, *that* is serious involvement with your music!
Every time I play "Three Minute Warning" I can see Shirley in the booth tearing out his hair because the tape's running out and making frantic gestures at the guys to wind it down, but they just keep ignoring him...hehehehehehehe
>Another question--why is >it divided up into five different tracks? I don't get the point of >splitting it up like that...any comments?
Probably as a concession to the "musically faint hearted, impatient, or critics of extreme self-indulgence" that they mention on the back of the disc. I imagine they divided it up to make it easier for people to find their favorite parts if they want to listen to only a small piece; a snack, as it were, rather than the whole 5-course meal. :)
Myself, I can't ever listen to it without hearing the whole thing. Like Fates Warning's "Pleasant Shade of Gray" and DT's "Change of Seasons". Something's just missing unless you play the whole thing.
Ta, Phil
========================================================= Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals Currently playing: Blind Guardian -- "Tales from the Twilight World"
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:05:03 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Instrumental show Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980414190221.23530A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, D. Frantz wrote:
> If that show Mike tried to pull off in the UK happened-w/ instr. > DT, Rudess/Morg, Platypus, and LTE--would that be the most sought after > boot in history?? I'd sell my soul to the devil for it, for sure!
Gee, Derek! Me too!!
EVERYTHING would be incredibly wild in that show. Dumb ass managers: they *THINK* they know what the public wants to listen.
Hahaha...
Hahahahahaha....
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
HAhahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhaha...
> -Frantz-
Hilariously yours, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:17:00 -0800 From: "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT opening band (NMBC) :-) Message-ID: <199804142222.PAA04378@baygate.bayarea.net>
I was wondering if anyone has heard any rumors about possible opening bands for DT's U.S. shows in May. I think that either Enchant or Spock's Beard would be an awesome choice. Both of those bands seem to be horribly under-exposed in the U.S., at least as far as touring goes. Any other thoughts on bands you would like to see open for DT? -Paul
----------- Paul Humm humm@levy.com
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:13:00 -0700 From: "Odom, C. Brett" <cbodom@fedins.com> To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Message-ID: <Megw.2105258@persia.fabrik.com>
Ok, here's the thing...Mike Bahr creates CDs of rare/live/whatever ->DREAM THEATER<- material. Many people on here buy/have bought/will buy those CDs. Many of those same people felt ripped off or whatnot; this was an issue that needed to be addressed. I agree that it went on awfully long, and I'm glad it's over, but it was an important issue, related indirectly to Dream Theater and directly to their fans. I for one am thankful to see people on here looking out for other fans by letting them know what's going on and addressing timely, important issues. And, no matter what you say, this was timely and important. Therefore, your caps-lock-happy post was much more of a worthless waste of space than the Bahr thread was. >Dick, I wasn't trying to sound angry or critical by having my caps-lock on. Its just a habit I have. And I know who Mike Bahr is and I know how he is involved with the imports, etc. My point was simple, as you admitted yourself, the point was overstressed that he needed to make changes in his business to better satisfy his customers. It should have been said once and then "hey, lets move on to more important things." As for my message being pointless, tell me how countless bitches about Mike Bahr have importance to this posting.
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:36:29 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT opening band (NMBC) :-) Message-ID: <199804142236.SAA02815@wi.cs.wm.edu>
Paul Humm thought out loud:
> I was wondering if anyone has heard any rumors about possible opening > bands for DT's U.S. shows in May. I think that either Enchant or > Spock's Beard would be an awesome choice. Both of those bands seem > to be horribly under-exposed in the U.S., at least as far as touring > goes. Any other thoughts on bands you would like to see open for DT?
Well, it won't be Spock's, which is good, cause I'd fail all my classes this semester if it were. (I've seen DT like 8 times, and have yet to see SB. You do the math.) Enchant would be an equally cool selection.
As much as I dig RMP, I've seen them open for DT 3 times now. Time for something else. How about Haji's, or Finneus Gauge, or BLUE? Those would be cool as shit.
Dreaming on, -d
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:37:51 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: Adam Cook <acook@tiac.net>, Brian Wherry <bwherry@mathworks.com>, Cc: skooc@earthlink.net Subject: [Fwd: FW: Male Pig Quiz] Message-ID: <3533E53F.31DF@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
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as the sunrise comes down the doorway and the snow while falls like rain down an alley i'll be sending my light your way you are the doorway you are the *DOOR* - "The Doorway" - Spock's Beard
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