YTSEJAM digest 3805

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Tue Apr 28 1998 - 09:53:38 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 3805

    Today's Topics:

      1) Elend
     by q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
      2) Re: vote for hank!
     by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
      3) Re: eeek another FII
     by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
      4) king's x/no mike bahr content....ok, a little. :)
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
      5) DU HAST! Du Hast Mich!!
     by "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com>
      6) earplugs
     by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
      7) FII ... again...
     by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
      8) Tour and Chapman
     by "J?rgen C. Bakken" <easy2beat@hotmail.com>
      9) Double B., FII
     by "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
     10) Re: Tour and Chapman
     by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
     11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3803
     by "Andy Edelheit" <eheit@hotmail.com>
     12) Ytsejammer Band: Amythyst
     by krackley@weidmuller.com
     13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3803
     by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
     14) Re: Album themes Rush
     by Henri Serton <hserton@worldonline.nl>
     15) VOTE FOR HANK!!!
     by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
     16) Century Media
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
     17) Re to Andy E
     by Per Pettersson <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:20:12 -0700
    From: q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Elend
    Message-ID: <3546AA7B.264C@mail.connect.usq.edu.au>

    Neil Gallop wrote:

    >>Elend - The Umbersun (?)

    Is this the third part in their three album concept project? I hope
    so...I have been waiting for it for a while now....

    The first two albums who's names are in Latin or something (?) are
    great...orchestral evil kind of stuff....

    Cheers

    Paul D.

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 07:28:11 -0400
    From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: vote for hank!
    Message-ID: <199804281128.HAA15158@daffy.cs.wm.edu>

    > >http://www.pathfinder.com/people/50most/1998/vote/index.html
    > >
    > >Make sure you get the name right, it's...
    > >Hank the Angry, Drunken Dwarf
    >
    > 5.Hank the Angry, Drunken Dwarf, 2316 votes
    >
    > GO HANK!!!

    7:30 am Eastern... he's second now. :)
    -d

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 07:40:05 -0400
    From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: eeek another FII
    Message-ID: <199804281140.HAA15194@daffy.cs.wm.edu>

    Matt Halloran wrote:

    > Of course I still respect the band and just look at FII as an experiment,
    > the next couple of recordings will be the real clincher (at least for me).

    This is probably the healthiest way to look at FII. The band's trying
    something out. Give them a little patience, and we'll see how they react to
    our reactions. It's the same thing as trying a new live jam, except that it
    takes a good 6 months to a year to get the reaction, instead of 5 minutes.

    Why the f%*@ am I up at 7:30? :(
    -d

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 04:57:25 -0700
    From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
    To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: king's x/no mike bahr content....ok, a little. :)
    Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C34124A96C@ms.kallback.com>

    Hey guys (including you little underage pubescent whippersnappers),
      Due to a variety of reasons (never heard 'em, high praise on the Jam,
    the need to fulfill my commitment to Columbia House before I can quit.
     Again.) I picked up The Best of King's X.
       While not as heavy or progressive as I was expecting, I found it to
    be
    a really good cd. Anyway, IMO!, they sound a lot like Extreme.
    My questions are:
    Does anyone else hear the similarities?
    Who influenced who?
    Is this cd really the best of King's X?

    NDTC so private mail is ok. Forward it to the ET list while you're at
    it. :)

    The theme of this post is King's X and I'm sure Mike Bahr would agree,
    ~Trevor wants to meet that twisted sister Eckie

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 04:47:45 -0700
    From: "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: DU HAST! Du Hast Mich!!
    Message-ID: <C5B7060FE2DCD011A8730060B01A6244322CEF@mail.rtp.gtegsc.com>

      Did anyone else get the two song video of this? It has Du hast and Engel
    on it.
     Both of which are some pretty messed (but wild) up videos.

    Jim

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:10:11 -0500 (EST)
    From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: earplugs
    Message-ID: <01IWE92WB61E003PPT@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>

    Date sent: 28-APR-1998 08:02:01

    I haven't yet worn earplugs to a concert, and I always regret it. Just
    plugging your ears with your fingers makes it sound twice as good, but you
    can't do that all night. Well, you could. But I wouldn't. I'd never get
    to 'accidentally' fondle the chicks in front of me.

    So I took a look at the drugstore, and they had 5 or 6 different types, all
    basically soft foam that you squish into a little cylinder and cram into
    your ear canal. They had the decibel reduction rating right on the
    package; they all reduced the noise by 28-33 decibels.(decibles? I don't
    think so, I know it's short for "deci" "bell"...) Anyway, that's enough to
    prevent the following after concert situation:

    guy1: cool concert, huh?
    guy2:(looks at shirt) Thanks, I got it for christmas!
    guy1: Go take a piss? I'll kick your ass, mothafo!

    josh

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:13:45 +0200
    From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: FII ... again...
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980428141345.0083b370@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>

    Hossa!!!

    Ok, I just had to jump out of my hole and post something because
    so many people were writing something about FII.

    I can only say that I really love this album. I can't understand,
    how somebody can say that this album isn't as good as Awake
    or IaW. Of course, this is all a matter of taste and of course
    everybody has to judge by himself what he/she thinks is best.

    The only thing I don't like too much is the overall sound of the album.
    But this again is just a matter of taste. Somehow the sound
    fits to the songs though. And I like the songs as they are.
    I'm not a big fan of CD's where some musicians just want to
    show how fast they can play that scale on the guitar and
    that roll on the drums. On FII are real songs and IMHO that
    is it what music is about. There is feeling in the songs
    and I like that. So I have not much to complain here. :)

    I also really love Awake and IaW but for different
    matters. IaW is for me an album where 5 incredible
    musicians show how great music can be if you are
    highly skilled on your instrument. Awake is more
    heavy and I like it therefore. Every DT album has
    its own soul somehow and I like each of it for different
    reasons. And I'm sure that the next album will sound
    different again and some people will like it and
    some won't. DT shows, that they progress in their
    "work" and maybe that's it what causes the changes
    in songwriting and sound of an album. If they would
    only release the same stuff every time, people would
    probably loose their interest also. I can only say
    that I like all of the albums. Amen. :)

    Happy jamming. :)

    Bye

    Bernd

    PS: For those who are interested in Superior: We're
        mixing the songs at the moment and I think I can
        say that we will get a killer sound for the new
        album. Just to make you curious. :) I'll try to
        put out the next Superior newsletter in 2 weeks
        or so. If somebody is interested in it and not
        yet on my list, just send me an email...
        basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 05:15:15 PDT
    From: "J?rgen C. Bakken" <easy2beat@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Tour and Chapman
    Message-ID: <19980428121516.2552.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Just a couple of questions:
    1. Does anyone rembers the dates of the europian x-tra tour?
    I'm comming to Finland two days later than the 19.
    2. So were else then on New Millenium is the Chapman Stick used?

    Th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-that's all folks!

    Log off
    from

    JCB
    easy2beat@hotmail.com
    www.angelfire.com/az/jazz4

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 05:25:45 PDT
    From: "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Double B., FII
    Message-ID: <19980428122548.9110.qmail@hotmail.com>

    >Who was the first band ever to utilize double bass drums?
    >Thanks.

    It must have been The Gene Krupa Band since Gene Krupa was the first
    drummer to utilize double bass.

    My thoughts about FII...
    The album could have been better if the mix would have been done
    properly.Not much, though.

    New Millennium.
    Kinda nice at first but it gets boring real quick.

    You not me.
    Cool song at first but it doesnīt stand up to many listens.

    Peruvian Skies.
    Again, a good song at first but gets boring after a few listens.

    Hollow Years
    unlistenable.Live it was kinda nice.

    Burning my Soul.
    One of the better songs in FII.It was great live.I still wouldnīt listen
    this many times in a row.

    Hellīs Kitchen.
    Almost unlistenable.Sounds more like a free form jam than a complete
    song.

    Lines in the sand.
    The best song in the album with very few(if any)boring parts.

    Take Away my pain.
    Listening this all the way through is a daunting task.I wonīt do it
    voluntarily any more.

    Just Let me Breathe
    Best song after Lines in the sand.That little "discussion"between guitar
    and keyboards is great.

    Anna Lee
    Unlistenable

    Trial of Tears
    This song was kinda good at first but now I donīt like it at all.Too
    predictable and boring.

    -Vilzu-

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:29:46 -0400
    From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Tour and Chapman
    Message-ID: <199804281229.IAA15378@daffy.cs.wm.edu>

    J?rgen is too lazy to look up:

    > 2. So were else then on New Millenium is the Chapman Stick used?

    http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html

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      cmerlo@cs.wm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates
      d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
      http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart
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            "The Spirit of Radio" Saturday 2:00pm-4:00pm 90.7 WCWM-FM
                        http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/tsor

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:37:30 EDT
    From: "Andy Edelheit" <eheit@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3803
    Message-ID: <19980428123730.13761.qmail@hotmail.com>

    How can I get off this list? It's crowding my mailbox and I hate it!

    Ed

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:51:39 -0400
    From: krackley@weidmuller.com
    Subject: Ytsejammer Band: Amythyst
    Message-ID: <199804281251.IAA00164@mail.weidmuller.com>

    Mark,

    My name is Kevin Rackley. My bands name is Amythyst. Our URL is:

    http://members.aol.com/rackleyk/Amythyst/

    Our band is not prog, but it follows KISS with some Sevendust and Creed
    (a little grunge sound) thrown in. We are based here in Richmond, VA and
    are currently getting set up to play in the "shockoe bottom" area of
    Richmond.

    Thanks for the link. I have already had a link to UACM for several
    months now.

    Kevin - Drummer (don't hold it against me)
    Amythyst

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:49:52 -0400
    From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3803
    Message-ID: <199804281249.IAA15449@daffy.cs.wm.edu>

    Andy Edelheit was too lazy to look up:

    > How can I get off this list? It's crowding my mailbox and I hate it!

    http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html

    (That's two, now. This'll be one hell of a morning, I can tell.)

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      cmerlo@cs.wm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates
      d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
      http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart
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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:08:03 -0700
    From: Henri Serton <hserton@worldonline.nl>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Album themes Rush
    Message-ID: <35465343.BCD1BBEC@worldonline.nl>

    > On Fly By Night, Neil starts to show his promise.
    > The overall theme of FBN can be called "Individualism"
    > but 2112 has this same theme and does it better... so
    > FBN can be better pegged by how individualism merges
    > with the minor theme of the album, "personal interaction".

    Don't you think that traveling is also
    one of the main themes of "Fly by night"?

    Think of "Fly by night", "Making memories"
    , "Rivendel" (Tolkien!!).

    > Individualism is a lock for Anthem,

    I would say that "Anthem" is about what he [Neil]
    at the time saw as the ethical base of individualism,
    namely rational self-interest.
    It is based on the Ayn Rand novella of the same name.

    > In fact there's a lot of overlap; both themes fit some songs.
    > Rush did a decent job on this one. The slight incohesion of
    > the theme is more due to their immaturity as songwriters here
    > than to subtlety.

    Nicely put. Yep, I agree on this one.

    -- 
    

    Henri

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:23:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: VOTE FOR HANK!!! Message-ID: <199804281323.JAA15901@umbc8.umbc.edu>

    Wow, this Hank thing is REALLY taking off!!

    When I sent the message the other day, he had about 300 and some votes and was sitting at #35. Now, he has over 3000 votes and it NUMBER 2!!

    He's right behind Leonarde DiCraprio. He needs less than 1000 votes to take the lead. Please go to the following site and vote if you haven't done so already...

    http://www.pathfinder.com/people/50most/1998/vote/index.html

    Again, this is for People Magazines 50 Most Beatiful People list. Who knows if Hank will actually make it in the magazine (I'm sure they drop him as a joke candidate) but it'll certainly be fun to see him beat out that little punk DiCraprio. He's already passed Hanson and the Backdoor Boys. !! Gotta love him for that!

    Make sure you get the name right, it's... Hank the Angry, Drunken Dwarf

    Thanks to those who have voted already!!

    -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:28:05 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Century Media Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980428102154.10569B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, NGA wrote:

    > Somebody recently wrote something about Opeth, saying they were the > biggest selling artist with Century Media. Almost certainly wrong - don't > forget that The Gathering and Tiamat are also with Century Media.

    Guess who wrote about Opeth?! :-)

    Anyway, what I said was that they were the second biggest selling act from Century Media. They're not the biggest ones (which is Emperor). But I do know that The Gathering has a very big sales potential (it's obvious after one listens to "Mandylion").

    > Elend - The Umbersun (?)

    Hummm... I'm getting really curious about this band. Maybe one of my next purchases (after I get some money -- right now I'm ordering, say, 10 CDs).

    > stay safe and happy listening > Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) > Currently playing: Liv Kristine - Deus Ex Machina

    []s, Roger...

    NP: nothing. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:34:16 +0100 From: Per Pettersson <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re to Andy E Message-ID: <98Apr28.153840gmt+0100.31363@gate.tranemo.se>

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    > How can I get off this list? It's crowding my mailbox and I hate it!

    I understand how you feel, when you've got Hotmail (LOSER!) - Read the DT FAQ god damn it!

    Friendly wishes,

    //Per Pettersson

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