YTSEJAM Digest 3788
Today's Topics:
1) VH III part deux
by Pat Daugherty <PDaugher@bdm.com>
2) Texas dates & places to meet
by "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
3) Re: Ontario plates...
by Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca (Lauzon, Gary: IHAB)
4) Re: Extreme
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
5) Re: DT in DFW
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
6) Re: new official EMPTY TREMOR fan club site
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
7) Tony Levin on SNL
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
8) Re: *Sigh*/I bought another new album! Yay!
by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3783
by "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com>
10) Re: new official EMPTY TREMOR fan club site
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3783
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
12) Re: new official EMPTY TREMOR fan club site
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
13) Re: new official EMPTY TREMOR fan club site
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
14) Re: concert review
by "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com>
15) NYROCk review
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
16) Trading
by krackley@weidmuller.com
17) EMPTY TREMOR demo tape
by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx>
18) Petrucci
by krackley@weidmuller.com
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:07:32 -0400
From: Pat Daugherty <PDaugher@bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: VH III part deux
Message-ID: <3540B8C4.7E58E26A@bdm.com>
> From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
> Extreme didnt put out fun party songs!? Were you talking about the=20
> lyirics or the music? =B4Because the song "Do you want to play"(off their=
> first album, Extreme) seems like a pretty cool party song to me. I m sure=
> there are other, but i cant recall anymore at this time.
Well I meant in general, Extreme doesn't have too many fun party type
songs. Hagar and Roth era VH have countless.
Mr Hootenanny wrote:
> About half of their first album is fun party songs. And let's not forget
> "Decadence Dance," or a host of other songs on II and III.
see above
> The reason I don't like VH III is because the songwriting just isn't trademark
> Eddie anymore. I think he tried too hard to be serious. Van Halen was always
> the ultimate party band. They were about one thing, and that was fun. Van
> Halen getting all deep and serious about anything other than drinking and
> fucking is about as natural as Metallica playing country tunes. (Oh, sorry.)
I agree it isn't trademark VH. I guess I've changed my thinking that it
isn't the Van Halen of old and basically a new band.
>
> I've given VH III its fair share of spins. It just doesn't plaster a smile on
> my face and leave me humming melodies for the rest of the day.
I agree here also. I don't know why the songs were written this way.
Maybe Eddie wanted to do something completely different or he realized
that he could do a lot more with Gary because of his greater vocal
ability. Who knows...
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:56:19 -0500 From: "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Texas dates & places to meet Message-ID: <l03102800b16665461f56@[128.83.190.104]>
>PLEASE start suggesting places of where to meet in Ft. Worth and SA!
in SA, how 'bout a Jim's Restaurant somewhere, like Blanco and 410. = Smokers can smoke, the coffee is cheap, and they always have huge groups of= weirdos making lotsa noise anyway. BTW, is the date for the SA show the 24th? That's what I've initially= heard, but I'm hearing things about different dates for D/FW and Houston,= so is SA still cool? and if they're playing such a small club in FW, why= are they playing the 2000-4000 person Sunken Gardens Theater in SA? are= the fan bases in the two cities really that different?
James C. Shields Undergraduate University of Texas at Austin
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:43:17 -0400 From: Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca (Lauzon, Gary: IHAB) To: ytsejam@ax.com ('DT') Subject: Re: Ontario plates... Message-ID: <1998Apr24.123933.1255.2320533@msmail.ic.gc.ca>
>Steph accused:
>> Hum... >> Getting a little obsessed with DT here? Living barely 45 miles from >> Ontario, I see plenty of license plates from there, and I can tell you >> they don't look ANYTHING like the logo's font... >> > >Get off drugs! Stop drinking! *LOL*
>Ouchie. :) No, I'm serious. I drove behind another car from Ontario yesterday >(why are there so many Canadians in Colonial Williamsburg, anyway?) that had >the word "Ontario" written in a very boring, plain font. But I know what I >saw the other day :)
ok ok.. I friggin live in Ontario (Ottawa) and man... I must be on serious crack without even knowing cuz ive never noticed it!
I think I will go have a walk outside and friggin look at those damn plates.. i still thnk d-man is hallucinating ;)
G
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:48:17 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Extreme Message-ID: <b454b984.3540c253@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-24 12:21:31 EDT, you write:
<< Extreme didn't put out fun party songs. >>
Oh, I don't know about that. Seems that 'Get the Funk Out' is a pretty good tune to party to, among others. What about 'Mama, Don't Want to go to School Today'? I always thought that was apretty fun song. Methinks thou ist not quite fluent in Extreme, eh?
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:54:26 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DT in DFW Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980424135340.5659A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, graham boyle wrote:
> Go to the web site and I see that DT is now alternative !! > > Dream Theater **Alternative** > Promoter Line Presents: > With Special Guest:Full on the Mouth > Sat May 23 9:00 p.m. General Admission $22 May 1st
I hate grunge.
> graham
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:56:04 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: new official EMPTY TREMOR fan club site Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980424135446.5659B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, graham boyle wrote:
> Arash Ashouriha wrote: > > Don't forget, as a member of Ystejam you can request a FREE PROMO TAPE > > directly from Empty Tremor. > > I am still waiting for a promo CD from these guys, I was told as far > back as late February that they were gonna send me one. I still haven't > got it and my email enquiring about this is not answered....
You may be kidding here (in that case, just ignore this message -- I'm not exactly in a happy mood right now and my brain just stopped working), but they promised tapes, not CDs.
> graham
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:56:51 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: Ytse Jam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tony Levin on SNL Message-ID: <3540C453.2080C5AE@caribe.net>
On today's Saturday night live rerun in Comedy central, Peter gabriel is the musical guest... complete with tony levin on bass..
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:10:33 EDT From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: *Sigh*/I bought another new album! Yay! Message-ID: <2f378d1.3540c78b@aol.com>
<<<'Perspectives' by Jason Becker>>>
I've seen that album at a few MA Newbury Comics locations, in the "misc. B" section.
Art www.joestump.com
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:39:18 PDT From: "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3783 Message-ID: <19980424173921.16340.qmail@hotmail.com>
Juan ramon wrote: >I say DT should plan a big tour in all the latin american countries they have >never been, I know this may not be easy for them but, can we fans do >something so DT will come to our countries?, if so, I would like to know what.
Hell, you´re damn right. I belive that DT has a huge audience here in Latin America (I´m from Venezuela). As a matter of fact The Hollow Years video is being played in "MTV latino" more often than in the States.
Can we Latin Americans do something in order to get DT here? Or, in Spanish: PONGAMONOS DE ACUERDO PARA TRAER AL MEJOR GRUPO DEL MUNDO DE UNA BUENA VEZ, CARAJO!!!! :)
>Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:42:51 -0400 >From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> >It was mentioned priorly on the 'Jam, like probably late-94 or >early-95 that DT was influenced to make the three-part piece A >Mind Beside Itself (Eroto, Voices, TSM) based partly on loving >what Extreme did with the IIIrd Side's Everything Under the Sun >three-piece song. Something along the lines of "we listened to >the IIIrd Side over and over again on our tour bus." At least >they have an admiration for Extreme... > >Dan > WOW, That´s so cool! For me "III Sides To Every Story" is the greatest album ever! :)
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:51:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: new official EMPTY TREMOR fan club site Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980424135047.12689A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Rogerio Brito wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, graham boyle wrote: > > > Arash Ashouriha wrote: > > > Don't forget, as a member of Ystejam you can request a FREE PROMO TAPE > > > directly from Empty Tremor. > > > > I am still waiting for a promo CD from these guys, I was told as far > > back as late February that they were gonna send me one. I still haven't > > got it and my email enquiring about this is not answered.... > > You may be kidding here (in that case, just ignore this message -- > I'm not exactly in a happy mood right now and my brain just stopped > working), but they promised tapes, not CDs. > > > graham >
Well, whether it's tape or CD, it seems like I'm #3 to not have received anything from them either....
not complaining, just adding my name,
-Al
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:53:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3783 Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980424135221.12689B-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
> Latin America (I=B4m from Venezuela). As a matter of fact The Hollow Year= s=20 > video is being played in "MTV latino" more often than in the States. >=20
=09That would mean it's been played at least once on MTV Latino, =09because I don't think that MTV here in the STates has played it=20 =09at all........please correct me if I'm wrong...
=09=09=09=09=09=09-Al =20
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:59:30 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: new official EMPTY TREMOR fan club site Message-ID: <3540D301.3E36CEDB@caribe.net>
Al Balkiewicz wrote:
> > > Well, whether it's tape or CD, it seems like I'm #3 to not > have received anything from them either.... > > not complaining, just adding my name, > > > -Al
--
Me 4!! I too emailed my address and all that..... and havent received the tape yet
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:59:06 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: new official EMPTY TREMOR fan club site Message-ID: <199804241759.NAA13049@saranac.cs.wm.edu>
Al wrote about Empty Tremor:
> Well, whether it's tape or CD, it seems like I'm #3 to not > have received anything from them either....
I'm number 4. -d
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:19:47 PDT From: "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: concert review Message-ID: <19980424181947.24564.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:44:31 -0400 >From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com> >I found this excellent DT concert review on the web this afternoon. It's >by New York Rock magazine and about the 11/22/97 concert that many folks >have the video of. Take a look... > >http://www.nyrock.com/reviews/dream_theater.htm > >Take care all...
Does anybody out there have that video? Please e-mail me. Take care
Ernesto
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:14:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: TheListFromTheDepthsOfHell <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: NYROCk review Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980424150301.13531A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
Just read the NY Rock review on the internet. Great review for the band, lots of positive stuff, but this guy just didn't know what the hell he was talking about as far as background of the band. Yes, I am anal, but I'm sure if it were a bad review, people would just rip into this guy. Plus, it's just unprofessional if you're going to do a review and not do any research. Plus, you sound like a moron, regardless if you liked the show or not.
Examples.......
" The piece [Pull me Under], along with their tongue-in-cheek second encore in which they all switched instruments, and jokingly ripped through one of their early songs, Nightmare Cinema were by far the most energetic and best parts of the show..."
Now if anyone has any demos of this old song, "Nightmare Cinema", please put up an MP3 on the Web for me and the other jammers.....
Is "Perfect Strangers" that vague a song as to not be recognized - by a "rock reviewer"???????
Another example:
" The group played medleys which were seemlessly (sic) comprised of numerous short pieces, including 'Crack', 'Acos (sic) II and IV'..."
Obtaining a setlist and just taking from there really doesn't do much for the factual integrity of an article, right? Hell, I would put on the set- list song titles like "This song sucks" or "reviewers blow cow nadz", just to see if it would be printed in the paper as the actual names of the songs.
OK, enough ranting for me - it was a great review from a person obviously not familiar with the band, which is definitely a good sign. I guess the fact that it's absolutely gorgeous outside and I'm stuck at work equals me being very edgy today. Thank you, and you can all rot in hell. :)
-Al
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:48:11 -0400 From: krackley@weidmuller.com Subject: Trading Message-ID: <199804241948.PAA00167@mail.weidmuller.com>
> Graham wrote:
> Please note, I TRADE ONLY, I don't sell these discs.
I'll trade you $15.00 for a disc :-)
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:38:47 -0600 From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: EMPTY TREMOR demo tape Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980424143845.006af364@sysop.com.mx>
> Arash Ashouriha wrote: > > Don't forget, as a member of Ystejam you can request a FREE PROMO TAPE > > directly from Empty Tremor.
I also asked for the FREE PROMO TAPE, but they didn=B4t even answer my e-mail. Is this demo tape offer only for the US?
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:17:17 -0400 From: krackley@weidmuller.com Subject: Petrucci Message-ID: <199804242017.QAA00162@mail.weidmuller.com>
>> P.S. Does "wannabes" need an apostrophe?
> No, but "Patrucci" needs and "e".
The "and" does not need that "d" at the end Mr. Grammar.
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