YTSEJAM Digest 3702
Today's Topics:
1) Hollow Years Picture Disc??
by MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
2) FAQ, Dunkin' Ying Wee, etc...
by Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
3) UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: New Places to Tour
by Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
4) What a naddy idea
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
5) Symphonic/keyboard prog
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
6) Re: DT in front of...40,000???
by "Brian Anderson" <lrng2lve@frontiernet.net>
7) Re: Under a Spicy Moon, Dunkin' Donuts, another live DT CD someday?
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
8) Re: FAQ, Dunkin' Ying Wee, etc...
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3698
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
10) Re: Argh!
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
11) Re: Argh!
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
12) Royal Hunt lyrics
by "Nicolas M. Rincon" <taborino@usa.net>
13) Re: Gay
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
14)
by jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
15) Jars of Clay, Vitalij Kuprij
by K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com>
16) Live CD/Video
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
17) Guitars (Peavey EVH), and VH live
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
18) NEW DT SINGLE ?!?!?!?
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:27:43 EST
From: MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hollow Years Picture Disc??
Message-ID: <7d15145.35242d01@aol.com>
Hey folx -
Okay, as many of you probably know, Music Boulevard (http://www.musicblvd.com)
has been advertising 2 separate "Hollow Years" Japanese singles for some time
now, one released on 2/26/98, and another supposedly released on 3/17/98.
Anyway, they have a track listing for the 2/26 one (which is the single
everyone seems to have with BMS/AH/TKH on it), but still no track list for the
3/17 version. I'm dying to know what the difference is, and I'm gonna e-mail
Music Blvd. as soon as I'm done typing this, but I may have just figgered
sumthin' out...
They list the 2/26 single in the following manner:
Hollow Years
Dream Theater
Ew , Released 02/26/98
IMPORT - JAPAN SINGLE
I would imagine that the "Ew" refers to EastWest. No problems here. The 3/17
single, however, is listed thusly:
Hollow Years
Dream Theater
Pid , Released 03/17/98
IMPORT-JAPAN
So, I'm sitting here racking my brain.... "What the HELL does Pid mean?"...
and then it hits me.... Picture Disc?
Maybe I'm smokin' crack, but so far it's the best idea I've come up with.
Whaddya all think? Am I totally barking up the wrong tree here?
Mike P, if you're reading this, are there 2 versions of the single? If so,
are there different B-Sides on the 2 versions?
Anyway, that's it for now. Discuss.
Laterz..... Matt T.
NP: Life Of Agony "River Runs Red"
PS: Just got done reading Eckie's "Addendum 4.3.2.a" rant..... dude, you are
not well, but my sides are still hurting! :-) Keep it up, you sick bastard!
BuhBye...
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:35:13 -0600 (CST)
From: Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FAQ, Dunkin' Ying Wee, etc...
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.980402182140.14522A-100000@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
For those that missed the April Fools prank that replaced the FAQ
yesterday, you can still check it out for a bit. It will remain up for a
couple of days until the FAQ update is finished (sometime this weekend).
http://www.prognosis.com/gabbo/dt/dtfaq.html
(there is no link to this on my site until the FAQ is updated for real)
Also, there is some confusion about the Dunkin' Donuts image that I used.
I did not create the image, it was given to me by Ptacek after he saw the
original version of the prank, and I thought it was funny enough to add.
I had no idea who made it until yesterday when I got a rather angry letter
from the creator. Apparently people told him that I was taking credit for
the image, which is just not true. No where on the page, list, or IRC did
I attempt to take credit for creating it. The actual artist is John
Gilbert (jg on IRC).
My appologies to him for the confusion, but I have never attempted
to take credit for artwork which was not mine originally. Take a look at
my web page sometime... if it's not listed on the copyright page, then I
made it myself, including all backgrounds, buttons, and separators.
Sorry about the rant, but I don't appriciate accusations of plagarism when
I make every effort to keep my work original. I talked to jg on IRC last
night and things seem to be resolved with him, so I hope this puts an end
to things.
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
| Pat Griffin Reality Squared Design |
| gabbo@dreamt.org shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu |
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:16:15 +1000
From: Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: New Places to Tour
Message-ID: <4A2565DB.0006B7D7.00@nschq-e-navy.navy.gov.au>
>Blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, well I'm stuck here in *Antarctica* and has
>DT been here ....... fuck NO !! What do you think we are down here,
penguin
>fuckers ??
Stupid perhaps, for being dumb enough to live there :)
Would you really expect DT to actually tour Antarctica ?
I would expect DT tour tour such a great country as Australia
is, but it seems the band don't want to come here..
graham :)
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:33:15 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: "Ytsejam (E-mail)" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: What a naddy idea
Message-ID: <01BD5E5D.6C44A750.aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
What with all this talk lately, I think we should start another petition
for a new live video/CD.
Someone can set up a P.O. Box to collect all the testicles of those guys
who "would give up a nad for another LaTM or LiT" and then we send the
whole lot off to east/west along with a nice letter explaining what devoted
fans we are.
Anyone willing to do this? Come on folks, show what true fans are!
Castrate yourself for prog!
~Chris
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:42:00 -0500
From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Symphonic/keyboard prog
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980402204200.00694af8@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
I've been talking with a friend of mine recently about keyboards and their
place in music. She isn't as heavily into them as I am, and doesn't like
the idea of walls of synth sound or orchestras blended with rock. I, on the
other hand, think songs with strings and walls of keys blending with the
metal or rock sound are really cool. Songs like Magellan's "Impending
Ascension", Symphony X's "The Accolade", Payne's Gray's "Moonlight Waters",
and so on.
So, I'm making her a tape. With prominent keyboards and orchestrated prog.
Now, I've got several ideas already, but I'd like to hear recommendations
from you 'jamanoids. What songs would you recommend that have lots and lots
of keyboards, or lots of strings and orchestra mixed in with the rock
sound? I'd like to show her that I'm not just losing my mind, and that it
really does sound cool. :)
Post replies here (I think the 'jam would benefit from something like this)
or send 'em to me via private email, I don't care. :)
Here's a couple of the one's I've selected already (aside from the ones I
listed above):
Angra: "The Shaman", "Queen of the Night"
Rush: "Chemistry", "Marathon", "Mission", "Subdivisions"...hmm, there are a
lot of these
Conception: "Gethsemane", "A Million Gods", "Under a Mourning Star"
Payne's Gray: "Within the Vault", "Reaching Kadath", "Riding the Shantak"
LTE: "Kindred Spirits"
Glass Hammer: "Stranger from the Sky", "Time Marches On", "Twilight on
Longview"
Magellan: "Songsmith", "No Time for Words", "Storms and Mutiny"
Lemur Voice: "Intuition", "Akasha Chronicles"
Anybody else?
Ta,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter
"Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who
no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired,
gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals
Currently playing: Jimmy Buffett -- "Barometer Soup"
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:02:02 +0000
From: "Brian Anderson" <lrng2lve@frontiernet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT in front of...40,000???
Message-ID: <199804030107.UAA43214@node21.frontiernet.net>
> I'd love to hear what everybody thinks! Thanks.
>
> Chris
Ha! DT playing at Movin' on . . . Ha! I graduated from that
there school last year. Went to that show every year . . . well,
only parts of it. Actually two or three years ago a band called
Shadowland opened the show at noon. They were supposed to end their
set with pull me under . . . but alas, they skipped it. My roomate
and I were bummed . . . even had my DT sweatshirt on and everything.
(Actually I posted to the Jam about that story, if anyone remembers
you win uhh, a prize or something.) But anyways, I don't think I could
see DT playing there. For one, nobody would show up, yeah there's
40 thou of ya there, but you ain't all showin' up. In fact there were
probably 40 people there watching shadowland. And besides, they
gotta come play in my hometown first . . . Me me me! :-) Oh, and
wear as much DT clothing as possible down there. You might run into
tons of fans, and family members of the band . . . worked for me.
-Brian Anderson
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:45:54 EST
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Under a Spicy Moon, Dunkin' Donuts, another live DT CD someday?
Message-ID: <4e52ad72.35244d6f@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-02 19:59:38 EST, you write:
<< DT content: Don't you guys think it's about time for a "sequel" to
LatM? I'm telling' you, I'd give a kidney if DT released another live
CD of this caliber. Especially if we get some tunes like UaGM, Voices,
Scarred, Peruvian Skies, Innocence Faded, The Mirror, ToT, etc. Thank
would be unreal.
<<<<< MIKE P., ARE YOU LISTENING? :-) PRETTY PLEASE >>>>>
Later,
- Joe D. >>
I'm sure if Mike is ever in the hospital dieing from kidney failure, he will
make it a point to get everyone together and release a sequel to LatM. =]
Rocky
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:50:51 EST
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: FAQ, Dunkin' Ying Wee, etc...
Message-ID: <7790135f.35244e8d@aol.com>
oh my god, i laughed so hard i almost puked!!!!
ying wee malmsten the neo-natsi clasical giutar player from China
the dunkin donuts thing cracked me up too, i hear he's reachin 800lbs! =]
Rocky
http://soft.simplenet.com/
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:05:06 EST
From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3698
Message-ID: <8824d768.352451e5@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-02 06:11:50 EST, you write:
<< Date: 98-04-02 06:11:50 EST
Sender: ytsejam@ax.com
Reply-to: ytsejam@ax.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Multiple recipients of list)
this is a big hello to this whole idea...i am an old aquaintance to the
nucleus of dream theater(formerly called MAJESTY..in case the "newer" theater
fans didnt know that)esp. mr.portnoy.... >>
Welcome Mr. McMaster. We've been awaiting your arrival. Please take a seat
and feel free to jump in when the mood suits you.
We'll be seeing you soon. Save some some 'wine'.
Kez
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:15:58 EST
From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Argh!
Message-ID: <30ff1e7a.35245470@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-02 14:05:33 EST, you write:
<< > Another use of the word "gay" meaning "bad"? I could never see the reason
> for that. That goes to Eckie as well, for saying the word proghead is "so
> gay" and therefore shouldn't be used...
> I mean, we know we have gay jammers yet we still make that kind of remark?
> It's like knowing there are black people in here and then go using racist=
> terms.
>
I think that this is the gayest thing I've ever heard... :P
-Al >>
Now THAT's funny...............
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:19:21 EST
From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Argh!
Message-ID: <85cc4f9e.3524553a@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-02 15:38:29 EST, you write:
<< ~Eckie. o O (Hey, at least I don't go around sucking on fags...[you crazy
Europeans]) >>
Now that's REALLY funny.
God, I love DT.
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:46:13
From: "Nicolas M. Rincon" <taborino@usa.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Royal Hunt lyrics
Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980402204613.2a9f27de@pop.netaddress.com>
Hey jammers!!!
Where i can find the Royal Hunt lyrics on the Web?? Can you give me a site
in the web? (sorry my 'latin' english...) Thanks!!!
Nico... THE argentinian Ytsejammer
-- Nicolas Matias Rincon e-mail: taborino@usa.net Santa Fe, Argentina"Seize the day and don't you cry, Now it's time to say good-bye Even though I'll be gone, I will live on, live on" - Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:27:53 EST From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Gay Message-ID: <c450ad9a.3524654b@aol.com>
is this a gay post or what?
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:53:59 -0400 From: jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk) To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <v01540b01b14a0ab1d8f4@[128.197.8.120]>
>Isn't this an absolute blast? I've been to a few open jams (and any of you >Boston people who are interested in hitting one, Johnny D's in Somerville >has a SMOKIN' blues jam on Wednesdays), since I was playing in a blues band >for about a year and a half, and there's so much to learn from just >watching and playing with people you've NEVER met before. Highly educational >for musicians of any skill level, and something I totally recommend. This sounds like a good idea for me. I wish I had better transportation than the subway (and I didn't have class on Thursday morning). Otherwise, I might have to make an appearance there and disprove the prevalent "Jeff Falk is worthless" theory.
>Stupid guitarists! Ok, so I fancy myself a guitarist, but I think this is a >pretty typical situation. I really don't like jamming with *any* other >guitarists, much >less two others. It seems like even _guitarists_ hate other guitarists. How ironic is that? If it means anything to anybody (I'm sure it doesn't), I think one guitar tends to be too few, especially in a rock band. Three might be overdoing it. Two is perfect, unless there's a keyboard player, where one is enough.
>>Usage of controversial slang terms and bad language will not be >>tolerated. Please stray from using such terms as, >> >>nazi, gay, pussy, Metallica, Jesus, Buddha, hootenanny, Hanson, Green Day, >>and Spice Girls. > >You forgot the word: Superior. So far, everyone has forgotten some really bad ones: Ayn Rand, Jeff Falk, Kiss, Marilyn Manson (especially in the same sentence as Derek Sherinean), Phil Collins, Yngwie Malmsteen, and until recently, Al Balkewicz (sp?) when related to tape trading. That's just what I can think of offhand.
>DT content: good idea
>Don't you guys think it's about time for a "sequel" to >LatM? I'm telling' you, I'd give a kidney if DT released another live >CD of this caliber. Especially if we get some tunes like UaGM, Voices, >Scarred, Peruvian Skies, Innocence Faded, The Mirror, ToT, etc. Thank >would be unreal. You have proven yourself unworthy by admitting you like "Innocence Faded." It seems like you have to consider that song to be "cheesy" (and have to love "Scarred") to be certified with good taste in music (or a "prog head"). I was disqualified long ago.
J--- F--- jefffalk@bu.edu
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:09:07 -0500 (EST) From: K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Jars of Clay, Vitalij Kuprij Message-ID: <199804030509.AAA08406@camel14.mindspring.com>
Hey,
I'm not sending yet another post about guitars or amps :-)
If you guys like acoustic-based folk/christian music, I recommend listening to Jars of Clay. I've been listening to their last CD, Much Afraid, for months now, it just keeps coming back to my CD player. Beautiful stuff.
Other stuff that might interest... I recently bought Vitalij Kuprij's solo CD called High Definition... if you want the ultimate in neoclassical (I know it's not the correct term but everybody knows what I'm talking about) shread metal, you gotta listen to this. Vitalij is a top-notch keyboardist, and if you liked Jordan Rudess' work on LTE, you need to listen to Vitalij. Plus, Greg Howe plays guitar on the CD and his playing is just insane.
Vitalij plays in a band called Artension. Speaking of Artension, I heard recently that John West is joining George Lynch in his new Lynch Mob band. Anybody knows if that is true and how that affects Artension?
Later!
Christian. ____ ____ ____ /\ /\ /\/\ /\ / / /\/ /\/ /\\ /\ /__/ / / \/ \__/ / / /___/ /___/ \\/ \____ /\ \ / / / \/ / / / / /\ \ // \ / / \ / / / / / / / / \___\// / / / / / /__ /__ / / / / / /\ / / / \ \ \ \ \\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ / / \___\_\_\__\\__\__\___\_\___\_\___\_\__\__/ / \_________________________________________/ "I'm no fucking Buddhist, but this is enlightenment"-Bj=F6rk
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 00:25:31 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Live CD/Video Message-ID: <352472CB.D266831@ameritech.net>
> Joe DeAngelo wrote: > > DT content: Don't you guys think it's about time for a "sequel" to > > LatM? I'm telling' you, I'd give a kidney if DT released another live > > CD of this caliber. Especially if we get some tunes like UaGM, Voices, > > Scarred, Peruvian Skies, Innocence Faded, The Mirror, ToT, etc. Thank > > would be unreal. > > <<<<< MIKE P., ARE YOU LISTENING? :-) PRETTY PLEASE >>>>> > > > > Later, > > - Joe D. > > hey man.. i think a live VIDEO should be an evern better idea... hell id > give BOTH my nads for that one.. well not really.. id give both my nads to > see DT here in PR,.. but for the video ill gladly give one of em..
Amen to that, too. The Live in Tokyo video is really amazing (Watching JP play the UaGM solo really blows my damn mind), another would be great! Carlos, if you haven't gotten this one yet, GET IT NOW! It's pretty cheap through massmusic.com (that's where I got mine).
- Joe D.
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 00:40:55 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Guitars (Peavey EVH), and VH live Message-ID: <35247667.89A408D7@ameritech.net>
I was at Joe's Music here in Detroit the other day for my guitar lesson (my FOURTH.... wow I'm practically Petrucci now...... ;-] yeah right!) and I browsed around and saw the new Peavey EVH Wolfgangs. They had two in stock, and were asking something like $730 for them. I'm not in the market for a new guitar (hell, I know so little - I wouldn't know what to do with an expensive guitar), but I was just curious about these (especially since I'm a big Van Halen fan). Are they good guitars? Anyone played one? Worth the price? <discuss amongst yourselves>
Also, VH is coming to Detroit May 19th! Of course, I have to work when the tix go on sale this Saturday :-( Hehehe, I'm gonna have to bribe someone at work to wait in line for me! Wish me luck getting good seats.
Later,
- Joe D.
NP: Angra "Unfinished Allegro" from Angels Cry
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 09:02:12 -0800 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NEW DT SINGLE ?!?!?!? Message-ID: <35251614.678C@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi
Can somebody clear this up please:
In the new issue of the German BRAVO magazine, there is a CD review of THE NEW DREAM THEATER MAXI CD CALLED "TOURING IN TO INIFINITY AND BEYOUND" !!!!!!!
There is a cool artwork printed there too as well as the ID nummber !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The new dream theater font is burning in fire and you can see the band looking very cool.
The "song" is dicribed as a ballade with complex piano parts !!!!
Maybe Steffen from "THE MIRROR" can say something about "the new song" !!!!
BTW, this emai is NOT A JOKE.
Arash
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