YTSEJAM Digest 4236
Today's Topics:
1) Reignstorm - Powermad 1998 concert review (NDTC)
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
2) Ice Age - Powermad 1998 concert review (NDTC)
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
3) Reading Zero - Powermad 1998 Concert Review
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
4) Division - Powermad 1998 Concert Review
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
5) Powermad 1999
by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
6) chicks singing with DT
by Madsag@aol.com
7) Re: Reignstorm - Powermad 1998 concert review (NDTC)
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
8) Re: Female Singers?
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
9) Re: Event - Powermad 1998 concert review (NDTC)
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4234
by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4234
by Ibanez506@aol.com
12) Re: NDTC, Jazz Music
by Christopher Steidel <steidelc@musashi.gsgis.K12.VA.US>
13) Good for me. For you? not so much.
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
14) RE: YTSEJAM digest 4235
by Nick Giannotti <nickg@gis.net>
15) RE: YTSEJAM digest 4235
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4235
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:27:40 -0400
From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Reignstorm - Powermad 1998 concert review (NDTC)
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980827172740.006ac6fc@mail.ee.net>
This band obviously suffered from a poor estimate of actual start time
versus stated start time on my part. I shifted everything back two hours
and completely missed these guys. Just when I thought I knew in which
timezone Powermad was taking place. :-)
webpage: http://www.angelfire.com/md/jarrettlembachmusic/Reignstorm.html
Joe
jkruger@ee.net
Check out http://www.mindcage.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
for great prog metal discussion!!!
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:27:47 -0400
From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ice Age - Powermad 1998 concert review (NDTC)
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980827172747.006ae2e0@mail.ee.net>
In what could have been the biggest tragedy to befall me at Powermad I
missed about half of the first song done by these guys. The rest of the
show was mindblowing. These guys define greatness in progressive metal to
me. They had all the elements that I'm looking for: An aor-toned singer, a
great shredding guitarist, a great bassist, and a Peart-inspired drummer.
Josh Pincus wins the award for best singer and best keyboard player
(closely followed by Thorne here) from me for his exact match to my style
tastes. He sounds quite a bit like Dennis Deyoung on vocals to me. The
keyboard leads on the Korg were killer - comparable to the greatness of the
keys on Images and Words. His non-lead keys were very good, very varied,
and very un-Moore-like if you are worried that he might just be a clone.
The entire band is definitely heavy into the whole progressive metal sound.
If originality matters to you more than anything else, then they are
probably not the band for you. But if, like me, you are always looking for
some new ultra-melodic prog metal superstars, these guys are it.
I had heard the sound clips on these guys web site, but nothing else. There
were some demo tapes floating around the net a couple of months ago, but I
missed getting one. I did pick one up at Powermad and it smokes. They have
signed with Magna Carta, which seems logical. These guys are gonna give
Shadow Gallery a good run for their money as best MC band. I am totally
stoked about hearing these guys on CD, and I'm really hoping that they
don't get the standard Varney no-tour, no-promotion, no-money treatment.
These guys win the band of the year award for Powermad from me.
After their set, Keith Menser, the Powermad organizer, mumbled some
negative stuff about his negative experience working with the band that
sorta pissed me off. Josh told me he apologized to Keith for playing longer
than they should have, and I hope they can work it out so that Ice Age
kicks butt at Powermad again next year.
webpage: http://www.ice-age.com/index3.htm
Joe
jkruger@ee.net
Check out http://www.mindcage.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
for great prog metal discussion!!!
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:31:55 -0400
From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Reading Zero - Powermad 1998 Concert Review
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980827173155.006957a0@mail.ee.net>
It was a shame that these guys had to follow Ice Age, because they too were
excellent.
I knew these guys from the Perpetual Motion board and they had a bunch of
trouble just getting onto the Powermad bill. I've had their CD "The Actual"
for a couple of months now. It is independently, but professionally,
produced and is very good. They sound to me like a toned-down
commercial-era Fates Warning band with a really different sounding singer.
He has a little bit of that Dave Mustaine growling sound going, but nowhere
as annoying as Mustaine is to me. Their musical is not extremely technical
in terms of pure difficulty, but the compositions are complex and feature
plenty of changes.
They arrived at Powermad not knowing even what day they would be playing.
They were told that they needed "no equipment", so that is what they
brought. Division was kind enough to loan them their instruments. Then each
day they weren't even told when they would be going on. They took all these
difficulties in stride and put on a great show. Sort of like rolling a 300
game in bowling with a house ball and house shoes. This band wins the CD
duplication award for pulling off everything live with no problems,
especially all the time changes.
They sounded a little more aggressive vocally and their mix was a little
rougher than the CD, but overall they were dead on.
They definitely proved themselves as a big time up and coming band that
everyone will have to keep their eyes on.
Amazingly enough, the lead singer partied himself into near-oblivion the
night before and showed absolutely no ill effects from it on stage.
http://www.readingzero.com/home.html
Joe
jkruger@ee.net
Check out http://www.mindcage.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
for great prog metal discussion!!!
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:32:29 -0400
From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Division - Powermad 1998 Concert Review
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980827173229.006957a0@mail.ee.net>
Purely power metal. Not normally my stuff, but they completely kicked ass!
Their show is pure energy and excitement. There are a lot more progressive
elements in the music than I had noticed in the past. They were the only
purely power band there to have a noticable NWOBHM influence in their
music. I think that this is what won them over for me. They definitely win
the best dual guitarist award for Powermad. Their harmony playing was
beautiful and dead on! Great job Mike and Matt. They also win the award for
most entertaining. The entire crowd that was still there was totally into
them. They definitely how to put on a live show. Scott is a fantastic
vocalist delivering total vocal power. The did a superb adaptation of
Sabbath's Heaven and Hell which will be on the new CD. They capped off the
best three-consecutive-band performance and were the perfect way for me to
finish Powermad. Great job guys and you've definitely won me over for
getting the new CD.
webpage: http://www.division-usa.com/
Joe
jkruger@ee.net
Check out http://www.mindcage.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
for great prog metal discussion!!!
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:47:10 -0400
From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Powermad 1999
Message-ID: <35E5D3DE.75FB4070@trw.com>
Mike wrote:
> BTW, I'm on the phone with Keith right now, and he says he's planning
> on
> doing a Powermad 1999, building on the lessons learned from this year.
> Yay!
What can he learn from Powermad 1998 that he should have learned from
Powermad 1997...
>
> Oh, and if anybody cares, the "Ascension to Eternity" Cd's should be
> in next
> week.
cool.
any word on when the Powermad cds will be in...
NP:Iced Earth-Something Wicked This Way Comes
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:47:57 EDT From: Madsag@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: chicks singing with DT Message-ID: <664875d5.35e5d40d@aol.com>>
interesting question.
if were talking about something uptempo and powerful, id agree with Pat Benatar. (good call whoever mentioned her, i dont remember who, sorry) however, my personal favorite "power" female voice is Ann Wilson of Heart.
id love to hear patti labelle with them. i swear that woman scares the hell out of me the things she can do. or i wanna hear patti sing something with doug pinnick. actually fuck that - i just like patti and anything she sings is fine by me.
if Tori Amos ever did anything with them, i would just blow up. my head would just blow into pieces. ok i cant think about that anymore.
if were talking about something more along the lines of SDV, i like the idea of Enya or Loreena. however, i gotta go with Sarah McLachlan. she would be perfect for something like that i think. Trisha Yearwood is also coming to mind. both extremely soothing voices.
-melissa, not an imposter. madsag@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:03:57 -0300 From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Reignstorm - Powermad 1998 concert review (NDTC) Message-ID: <35E5C9BD.AE2CB633@caribe.net>
Hey man, are you unable to post all of these reviews on ONE or TwO posts??!?
Joe Kruger wrote:
> This band obviously suffered from a poor estimate of actual start time > versus stated start time on my part. I shifted everything back two hours > and completely missed these guys. Just when I thought I knew in which > timezone Powermad was taking place. :-) > > webpage: http://www.angelfire.com/md/jarrettlembachmusic/Reignstorm.html > > Joe > jkruger@ee.net > > Check out http://www.mindcage.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html > for great prog metal discussion!!! >
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 01:06:14 +0200 From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Female Singers? Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980827230614.006977c0@unet.univie.ac.at>
Fuck them if they do so. Just my opinion. James sings better than any woman ive ever come across (especially on the old To Live Forever demo (load down mp3...)geee, i love it when he sings like that) :)
BTW, i really dont mind christianity in music, we had the discussion on thoughts so fell free to sub there...
NP: Stigmata (IV) - Solum Mente Infirmis
Dryheat (...in Houston they say that?)
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:10:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Event - Powermad 1998 concert review (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.01.9808271858230.18529-100000@mariner.cris.com>
First off, I think posting each band review individually was a GOOD idea. Less cutting and pasting for me since I only want to reply to one of them; just the reason Joe did it this way. Thanks Joe.
By the way, sorry I didn't get to meet you. I guess you were hanging with the Perpetual Motion crew. I did manage to meed the infamous Mike Blevins from that bunch ;), however. Most of us Ytsejammers were at the far table closest to the kid selling the hotdogs.
On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Joe Kruger wrote:
> These guys just didn't click for me. I had heard that they had never > performed live before. I don't know if that is true, but they definitely > had some technical problems during their performance. They were more of a > prog rock/fusion band but they had plenty of heaviness live. There were all > exceptional musicians and the singer had a good voice, but their music > didn't grab me at all. I wouldn't want to judge their music by this > particular performance. I guess I'm still willing to give them another > chance, I'd has to call this particular performance a non-Event. > > webpage: http://www.mysticfishook.com/
Oddly, for me, Event was the outstanding act. Despite the technical difficulties, which to my understanding was a messed up sequencer that plays the keyboard parts along with a click track, they played extremely well and their music was by far the most interesting. I might feel this way, though, because I have their EP "Electric Skies" so I know most of the stuff they played. And honestly, the first time I heard their music, it didn't click for me either. I had to listen to the disc at least five times before I realized "Hey, this shit is really COOL." So that might be why it seems so few people dug their set... the music takes a little time to digest.
Rick Audet San Francisco
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 01:11:56 +0200 From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4234 Message-ID: <35E5E7BC.FD24501D@mol.com.mk>
> From: Matthew Johnston <matt2518@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> > Subject: Re: DT-related sighting. > > You know, this is quite heartening. A few years ago, i saw Awake in a > similar ad, and FII more recently. Now, with AoI, a minor label is > getting that type of ad space. It makes me wonder if musicianship > actually *is* making a comeback. If so, a lot of bands are coming in just > in time. Like mine ^_^ > > But anyways, I also got to thinking on a few statements from jams gone by, > and wondered, "If Yes, Kansas, ELP, DP, Tull, and other big proggy-type > bands are still making records at the ripe old age of 50-ish (for the > members), how long will DT endure?" Emerson sounds like he's still pretty > dang spry, and even Ian Anderson can keep up some of his stage prescence. > I'm wondering if DT's conservative stage antics will keep them going > longer? I mean, some of those classical guitarists played until they died > at 90 or so, and were always getting better... > > Opinions? Don't ignore me, I might scream and cry! ^_^ > > --Matt
Well, it's certainly an interesting thought. It's very tricky because DT is PRESENT band. Personally, my musical background were primarily old bands (Zep, Purple, Jimi, jazz rock...) and with them you don't have a problem on the issue! You might get happy if they suddenly decide to reunion and do some tour, or appear as guests on festivals, concerts. BUT, talking about present band which we all care about a lot is not that simple. It's quite intriguing to think, "Oh men, what kind of album DT will come up in ... 2007?" :-). Cool! But we neven know. Will they dtay togethr? Hope so! Will they be succesfull in all that time? Er,... what do you think, having on mind present situation in the music industry, EmpTyV stuff and so on? Where is the music heading? I mean, will some of these wonderful presen bands REMAIN IN THE MUSIC HISTORY? I find it a very interesting question! "Legendary band", sounds great, but you must win the title! Which one of the present bands will pass the test of time? That's an interesting topic to talk about! And yeah, it's DT connected, amen! :-) Not like the previous I mailed (ya know, the Janet Jackson stuff ;-)
So, anyone?
Dushko \|/ _____________________________o_o_______ <| \ / |> <| "Chuck! Chuck! This is your cousin ...|> <| your cousin, Marvin Berry! |> <| Remember the new sound you were |> <| looking for? Well listen to THIS!" |> <| |> <| - Back To The Future I |> <|_______________________________________|>
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:16:06 EDT From: Ibanez506@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4234 Message-ID: <e21832b0.35e604d6@aol.com>>
In a message dated 98-08-27 17:07:00 EDT, you write:
<< I was flipping pages through one of the local San Francisco A&E newspapers ("rags" are they called?) and I got to a full-page ad for Virgin Megastore, which is this huge record store, in case you didn't know. On this ad are album covers for six releases, one of which is EXPLORERS CLUB, "Age of Impact". Price: $11.99. I thought that was pretty cool to see. >> I think the big boys are takin notice to the resurgence of prog IT'S ABOUT FREEKIN TIME!!! later, juli
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:34:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Steidel <steidelc@musashi.gsgis.K12.VA.US> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: NDTC, Jazz Music Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980827211941.651B-100000@musashi>
Yeah, I know it's probably a week late, buck who really gives a flying, whoopdy-dooing whahoo. Really good jazz/fusion stuff to look into would probably be:
Al Dimeola- He is the man. While I don't like to say a certain guitarist is the best (and I stayed out of the Ed/Randy snafoo) I do have to say that Al Dimeola takes the cake. He can play just about anything and it sounds better that anything you've ever heard. His playing with Chick Corea was amazing (check out some of the live versions of Spain, a personal fave) and his solo work is astounding. Give Elegant Gypsy or Casino a listen. He's a Berklee grad too : )
Chick Corea- What a pianist. I don't even know where to tell you to start. He is an incredible writer and performer and has seemingly had the knack of getting some of the most talented jazzmen to perform with him on whim. Almost anything from his supergroup Return to Forever is worth a listen.
James Gates- One of the finest soprano sax players in existance. He plays more contemporary jazz than the two mentioned above, but he is a true performer and musician. He's on several other artist's recordings at the moment and he has another solo album coming out in October. His stuff is kinda hrd to find, but its woth the hunt. Another Berklee grad too : )
Enough of my incoherent babbling. I hope this helps.
-Chris Steidel "Ok, who forgot to tell me to shut the fuck up this time?"
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:07:28 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Good for me. For you? not so much. Message-ID: <35E610E0.2D0159FA@bigfoot.com>
I got a freelance assignment this week, which is why I haven't had the time to post to the jam about the fact that I haven't had the time to get the shirts moving. Finally called the guy from work today. They'll have the back done probably by Sat. and the front by early next week. And then the fun begins.
-- ................................................................. Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com Razi on IRC & ICQ Check out Another Page at http://www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot diggity!
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:45:37 -0400 From: Nick Giannotti <nickg@gis.net> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 4235 Message-ID: <01BDD2D5.990EE880@dialin.mitre.org>
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YTSEJAM Digest 4235
> 4) Opposite Earth - Powermad 1998 concert review (NDTC) > by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
All the way to
> 17) Joe Stump - Powermad 1998 concert review (NDTC > by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
Sorry, but was there really a need for ALL these posts? Couldn't they have been put on a website and then you just post the URL?
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:02:29 -0700 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 4235 Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980827200156.0077fcd4@postoffice.pacbell.net>
At 07:57 PM 8/27/98 -0700, Nick wrote: > >> 4) Opposite Earth - Powermad 1998 concert review (NDTC) >> by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net> > >All the way to > >> 17) Joe Stump - Powermad 1998 concert review (NDTC >> by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net> > >Sorry, but was there really a need for ALL these posts?
Yes there was. Just thought I'd clear that up.
thankyoupleasedrivethru
Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl _________________________________________ Thoughts - The Spock's Beard Mailing List http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard _________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:00:20 -0300 From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4235 Message-ID: <35E60F34.7AF8003E@caribe.net>
Nick Giannotti wrote:
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HAHAHAHAHA I found this REALLY funny, a mime(?) encoded flame!
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