YTSEJAM Digest 4519
Today's Topics:
1) Grrrrrr
by AyameYuki@aol.com
2) Queensryche Empire Tour dates
by Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
3) Pain Of Salvation, 800.Com, and Bahr for the last time.
by "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4518
by Awake77@aol.com
5) Grrrr... I glued my hair to Krooow and made him growl like a grizzly bear. Grrrr...
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
6) To Neil Gallop
by "Ollila Marko" <Marko.Ollila@logisware.fi>
7) Re: Helloween Dates
by Markus Tenberge <markus.tenberge@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
8) LTE/NAMM Show Update
by Nikki.Brooks@taywood.co.uk
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4518
by Thomas <Thomas.Nojd@ericsson.com>
10) what the hell is a gigawatt?
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
11) what the hell is a gigawatt?
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
12) 800.com
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
13) Re: Quick review of Hammerfall show 12-13-98
by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4518
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
15) Re: Quick review of Hammerfall show 12-13-98
by polzin edward george <polzin@ews.uiuc.edu>
16) Re: Quick review of Hammerfall show 12-13-98
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
17) Re: Opinions
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
18) Re: what the hell is a gigawatt?
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 23:14:13 EST
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Grrrrrr
Message-ID: <880c9dc.367dcb15@aol.com>
ok. ive got a griping session. WHO the heck is this person who seemed scroller
happy and kept putting ' unsuscribe ' at least 12 times ? i know it was
legal...but some idiot has too mcuh time on their hands. and i thought those
"me too" like phrases werent allowed ? anyone want to shed some light on this
?
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 23:24:39 -0500
From: Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Queensryche Empire Tour dates
Message-ID: <367DCD87.1D747150@seacoast.com>
Just to let you know the dates listed on the Queensryche.com site are
but one leg of the tour , obviously when your on the road for 12 months
you play more than 65 gigs!!
Later
Bob
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 01:37:30 -0500
From: "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com>
To: "The Jam" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Pain Of Salvation, 800.Com, and Bahr for the last time.
Message-ID: <009101be2cac$628912a0$6c8345c6@longshot>
With all the arguments going on about the poll, someone forgot to mention
Pain Of Salvation. These guys are great, being a better Faith No More with
good vocal harmonies. They are worth checking out if you can find it.
Their web page is http://www.algonet.se/~gilden/ with samples....
As for 800.com, received my order on Friday with 2 of 3 DVDs that I ordered
(The Rock is on backorder... No surprise...)
As for Mike, I'm sorry to see this happen to him. He is just a guy who's
ambitions were far more than his capabilities. Running a gaming shop is
tough. I personally had no complant about him in the end. I got everything
I ordered from him. The people who came after him learned from his
mistakes. They don't have the bad stigma that Bahr got, even though they do
the same thing he did, just better service. I hope one of these days Mike
straightens himself out. This brings the Bahr saga to the end and nothing
more needs to be said about it, because the remainder of his business will
be passed on to others....
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Jason Birzer "One likes to believe in the freedom of music
"The Longshot" but glittering prizes and endless compromises
ICQ#13068879 shatter the illusion of integrity."
longshot@pressroom.com Rush - The Spirit Of Radio
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 02:57:10 EST
From: Awake77@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4518
Message-ID: <bb5d7e0b.367dff56@aol.com>
Hey people, I just need some music suggestions:
Ive been getting into some death metal lately, and I wanted some input on
some good bands to get into. So far, I really dig:
Cynic
Death
Enchantment<---these guys rule!
But I picked up Emperors newest release and I thought it was a little hard to
listen to.
Anyways, please email me if youve got any suggestions...thanks!
-Chris
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 01:19:58 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Grrrr... I glued my hair to Krooow and made him growl like a grizzly bear. Grrrr...
Message-ID: <002201be2cba$b7af70e0$590d84d0@korgx3>
After watching that last episode of MST3K (Jack Frost), I'd swear the
writer/performer Mike Nelson must subscribe to this list this and stole my
grizzly idea. Grrrr...
>ok. ive got a griping session. WHO the heck is this person who seemed
>happy and kept putting ' unsuscribe ' at least 12 times ? i know it was
*chuckles* welcome to the Ytsejam, the closest thing to legal email bombing
as one can get. :D The sad ting is that we all take it willingly. Egad,
we're lame. heheh. But because of this list I find things out like this:
>This is stuff by a dude called Kevin "Bloody" Wilson....It shouldn't be
>had to find here in Oz....members of my extended family used to have it
KorgX3's Hella Props of the Year are officially awarded to Paul Dyer! Holy
shit! Now I've just gotta find a copy. :D My search is over at long last.
Now I've gotta find out what to do with my free time (not thyme, damn
homonyms).
Shit, I love this jam (Ytse, not Strawberry).
-- KorgX3 ponders canning it and selling it to Smuckers...------------------------------
Date: 21 Dec 98 11:33:24 +0200 From: "Ollila Marko" <Marko.Ollila@logisware.fi> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: To Neil Gallop Message-ID: <00216232180000010103EB875F042E@mail.logisware.fi>
Hiya,
Sorry to clutter up the jam, but I have a message to Neil Gallop. I heard you're hunting the Nightwish CD. I have a bunch of those bought for jammers already. Email me.
Thanks.
_Mape_
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:39:09 -0100 From: Markus Tenberge <markus.tenberge@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Helloween Dates Message-ID: <199812211140.DAA03481@knight.axnet.net>
Peg,
forget about the www.helloween.com. It's crap. You better go to one of the unofficial webpages which are A LOT more up to date.
Try the message board of "Future World" and post your question again.
http://www.perfectgentleman.com/YourTurn/
Or check out Tony's "Where the rain grows" page which is one of the best informed Helloween pages:
Hope this helps
Markus
> I suppose this is referring to '98 since they were just in South >America(*sigh)? Is there any chance that Helloween will tour the U.S. any >further anytime soon? Just >wishing.
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:46:41 +0000 From: Nikki.Brooks@taywood.co.uk To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: LTE/NAMM Show Update Message-ID: <H000086f010c649a@MHS>
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Extract from TONY LEVIN'S WEB PAGE
http://www.papabear.com/tlev.htm
For me, the coming month isn't settled yet. (Hey, I'm a musician!) Liquid Tension might tour a bit or a lot, and will appear for sure at the NAMM show in L.A. at the end of the month. King Crimson has a release event in L.A. on Jan 27th, for the new Crimson DVD. I'll be at NAMM, probably at Trace Elliot's booth, attempting to convince music retail stores that they aught to carry my book(!) (That's usually a good=
opportunity to upload photos of what's happening at the trade show - expect daily updates.)
Also updated
http://www.angelfire.com/nb/NIXB/
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:25:46 +0100 From: Thomas <Thomas.Nojd@ericsson.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4518 Message-ID: <367E687A.F2F9613B@ericsson.com>
In desperation close to insanity Taprex@aol.com wrote:
>Please unsubscribe. >Please unsubscribe. >Please unsubscribe. >Please unsubscribe. >Please unsubscribe. >Please unsubscribe. >Please unsubscribe. >Please unsubscribe. >Please unsubscribe. >Please unsubscribe. >Please unsubscribe. >Please unsubscribe.
I could be wrong, but I get the feeling that someone is trying to unsubscribe here ;-) I will give him a hint on how to unsubscribe, cause I prefer the Jams to contain info/bashings/flames/love letters...
/Thomas ________________________________________________________________________
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be...
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 07:44:08 PST From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: what the hell is a gigawatt? Message-ID: <19981221154409.18877.qmail@hotmail.com>
yep, I'll be there too, Birch Hill and Irving PLaza, wearing the long sleeve of the European leg of An Evening of new Music. Regarding www.800.com, if you have a friend that has a credit card but doesn'd care for cd's.... Just a thought. later schnipp
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 07:44:02 PST From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: what the hell is a gigawatt? Message-ID: <19981221154403.12378.qmail@hotmail.com>
yep, I'll be there too, Birch Hill and Irving PLaza, wearing the long sleeve of the European leg of An Evening of new Music. Regarding www.800.com, if you have a friend that has a credit card but doesn'd care for cd's.... Just a thought. later schnipp
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:29:00 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: 800.com Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809142@messaging>
I have received a shipping confirmation, and three of my co-workers that used the promotion got their shipments over the weekend.
David Dixon, MCP Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:54:48 -0500 (EST) From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Quick review of Hammerfall show 12-13-98 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981221124941.2486A-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>
> From: Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com> > Subject: Quick review of Hammerfall show 12-13-98 > > I had the pleasure of seeing Hammerfall play their last show of the U.S. > tour last night here in Atlanta. Lots of fun, very enjoyable. I know some
actually, no you didn't. their last show of the U.S. tour was in san juan, puerto rico, boyee! and i had the pleasure of seeing them on their REAL last show of the U.S. tour. :) and i must say, the show rocked a whole lot of ass. it was quite packed. i think the setlist was the same as the atlanta show.
> The band made as if to leave after "Hammerfall", but I could tell by the > smirk on Joacim's face that they weren't done yet. He motioned, and Oscar > took the mike. Oscar said, "This is our last show of the tour, and we're > having too much fun to go yet. Besides, you guys have been so cool you > deserve one more song. We do this one once in a while, just for fun. We > think you'll enjoy it."
hmm. we left during Hammerfall, because we were all dead tired. i wonder if we missed that. that would suck. hey carlos, did you stay for all of it? did they do that?
> friendly (Magnus, for example, was so grateful at being recognized that > after he talked with us and signed stuff, before the show, he went back on
same here - one of em came out with a video camera before the show and video taped all of us standing in line. my friend almost flashed the camera, but he had turned away before she had a chance to. hehe.
moo.
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 15:57:07 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4518 Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9812211544260.8200-100000@jaca>
On Mon, 21 Dec 1998 Awake77@aol.com wrote:
> Hey people, I just need some music suggestions: > Ive been getting into some death metal lately, and I wanted some input on > some good bands to get into. So far, I really dig: > > Cynic > Death > Enchantment<---these guys rule!
Well, if you like Cynic, then you might like Echosilence, even though Echosilence doesn't have any vocals and, so, aren't death metal.
But now comes my usual recommendation: get Opeth. Ok. Let me repeat that: get Opeth. The most amazing death/black/doom/extreme band that I've ever heard, for it doesn't perform a unidimensional music, being only death or only doom metal.
If you want more information about their releases, a good starting point would be: <http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/opeth/>.
If you want some heavy music, get their third (and latest) album, "My Arms, Your Hearse". If, on the other hand, you prefer softer music, get both "Morningrise" and "Orchid", which are two very similar albums (some people even say that "Morningrise" is "Orchid 2").
If you're into a more brutal side, then you might want to check out Deicide's "Serpents of the Cross", which consists of some really fast music.
Ok. Enough "Ifs". Check out the swedish bands of death metal, in case you're interested in melodic playing. Bands like In Flames, Dark Tranquillity among others are best described as Iron Maiden/Helloween meets death metal.
And an album you might want to check out is Edge of Sanity's "Crimson".
> But I picked up Emperors newest release and I thought it was a little > hard to listen to.
Yes, "Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk" is best described as a "wall of sound", but one thing: it's not death metal. It's black metal. It's hard to get into, but you may eventually get into it, if you allow enough time.
Hope these recommendations help, Roger...
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:56:33 -0600 (CST) From: polzin edward george <polzin@ews.uiuc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Quick review of Hammerfall show 12-13-98 Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.981221125329.15729A-100000@eesn23.ews.uiuc.edu>
On Mon, 21 Dec 1998, TheCowGod wrote:
> > actually, no you didn't. their last show of the U.S. tour was in san juan, > puerto rico, boyee! and i had the pleasure of seeing them on their REAL > last show of the U.S. tour. :) and i must say, the show rocked a whole lot > of ass. it was quite packed. i think the setlist was the same as the > atlanta show. >
Was just curious since i havent been up to date on my current events, but what ever came of the proposal to make puerto rico a state? i remember it being in the news maybe 3-6 months ago, but dont know the outcome. anyone know?
just to add some DT content, fuck you to all you people who get to go to the holiday concerts while i'm stuck here at work. :)
later.
Ed
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 15:15:04 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Quick review of Hammerfall show 12-13-98 Message-ID: <367EAC48.F3786C5F@caribe.net>
TheCowGod wrote:
> > The band made as if to leave after "Hammerfall", but I could tell by the > > smirk on Joacim's face that they weren't done yet. He motioned, and Oscar > > took the mike. Oscar said, "This is our last show of the tour, and we're > > having too much fun to go yet. Besides, you guys have been so cool you > > deserve one more song. We do this one once in a while, just for fun. We > > think you'll enjoy it." > > hmm. we left during Hammerfall, because we were all dead tired. i wonder > if we missed that. that would suck. hey carlos, did you stay for all of > it? did they do that?
Yeah.. we saw the nightmare cinema thing.. they played breaking the law, with the rythim guitarrist taking over vocals, lead guitarrist on drums, vocalist on guitar, bassist on guitar and i dont remember who played bass..something like that.. anyways the whole show rocked...for a band i didnt kmnow a single song off, it was fun..and they were very tight... definately worth it..
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:32:09 +0100 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Opinions Message-ID: <01BE2D29.5F557E20@109.153.dialin.mxs.nl>
The Ice Queen wrote about Lisa Marie's on topic Dream Theater mailinglist "The Mirror" :
> Hahahahaha too funny!! > This comes from someone who actually CENSORS other people's opinions > on her own list (The Mirror). Sounds like the pot calling the kettle > black .........
Actually, that's called "moderating", not "censoring". Lisa Marie has been very clear about the fact that "The Mirror" is for Dream Theater issues only... All off-topic posts get rejected (and so they should).
Happy Holidays!
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:33:36 -0500 (EST) From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org> To: Schnipp - <schnipp@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: what the hell is a gigawatt? Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.981221163215.1654B-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> yep, I'll be there too, Birch Hill and Irving PLaza, wearing the long > sleeve of the European leg of An Evening of new Music. Regarding > www.800.com, if you have a friend that has a credit card but doesn'd > care for cd's.... Just a thought.
Just wanted to pass along a note saying that i'll be attending both the birch hell and philly shows. stop and say hi if you get a second.
- mike.
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