YTSEJAM Digest 4532
Today's Topics:
1) Re: WAYN
by "Todd Fostvedt" <tfostvedt@csu.org>
2) E-mails
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
3) DTIFC CD
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
4) Re: Where are you now?
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
5) Re: DTIFC CD
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest The Bet
by AyameYuki@aol.com
7) It's a B!
by "J.T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
8) Perfect pitch?
by "J.T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
9) Jammers on Acid
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
10) Congratulations, madame! It's a C! (Shit, I wanted a girl)
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
11) Xmas Tree...
by Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net>
12) Messages...
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
13) Re: Messages...
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
14) B or C? That's pretty Rich...
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
15) The XMas Shows
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
16) Re: Australia
by "Mc-Merc" <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
17) MP3s!
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
18) CDNow Promo OIAL CDs
by Joel Timmins <picklain@dca.net>
19) Jordan Rudess improv piano mp3s
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:37:22 -0700
From: "Todd Fostvedt" <tfostvedt@csu.org>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: WAYN
Message-ID: <872566EB.006BE753.00@nd-mta01.csu.org>
The Cow God inquired:
>i don't believe there IS an mp3 of WAYN, i have a RA file, but i haven't
>been able to find it in mp3 form. i'd love to find it cuz i'm making a cd
of
>rare tracks like the fii demos, TLF from the lie single, etc, and that
song
>deserves to be on there, but i know of no way of unencoding an RA file...
>there's always recording it to tape and then making a wav file from the
tape
>but that's not conducive to the best sound quality. can anyone either
point
>me towards an mp3 of WAYN or tell me if there's any way to unencode a RA
>file? thanks. moo.
Real Audio Decoder is at http://www.2bsys.com/Ra2Wav/index.htm
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:38:34 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: E-mails
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9812311736440.27919-100000@jaca>
Ok.
It's good to be back with Internet access after one week of being
incommunicable.
The sad thing is that it seems that I lost some e-mails. So, I'd
like to ask you that if you sent me some e-mails since Dec 24th, please
resend them.
Thank you very much, Roger...
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:47:28 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: DTIFC CD Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9812311746500.27919-100000@jaca>
I'd like to know one thing: how long is the DTIFC CD, in minutes?
Thank you very much, Roger...
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:35:36 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Where are you now? Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9812311732390.27919-100000@jaca>
On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, TheCowGod wrote:
Wow, it's been a long time (one week) without Internet access. But now I'm happier! :-) So many e-mails to read, so little time... And my Perl "The Camel" book finally arrived! E-mails? Bahh... Larry Wall has got my attention now... :-)
> i don't believe there IS an mp3 of WAYN, i have a RA file, but i haven't
I can make you one, if you wish... But how do I send it to you?
> been able to find it in mp3 form. i'd love to find it cuz i'm making a cd of > rare tracks like the fii demos, TLF from the lie single, etc, and that song > deserves to be on there, but i know of no way of unencoding an RA file...
Yes, there is... There's a program called ra2wav that does what you're looking for.
> there's always recording it to tape and then making a wav file from the tape > but that's not conducive to the best sound quality. can anyone either point > me towards an mp3 of WAYN or tell me if there's any way to unencode a RA > file? thanks. moo.
NO! That's evil! Don't record to tape and then record back, man.
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 15:57:55 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: DTIFC CD Message-ID: <002701be34f7$dc3b68c0$39c55bd1@eduardo>
> I'd like to know one thing: how long is the DTIFC CD, in minutes?
60:17 - almost exactly an hour. moo.
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 15:08:50 EST From: AyameYuki@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest The Bet Message-ID: <3937b0b9.368bd9d2@aol.com>
In a message dated 12/31/98 3:42:02 AM Central Standard Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:26:07 -0500 (EST) To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: a little bet... Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981230232502.13350A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu> On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Just wondering if anyone would like to help me settle a little bet. My friend says the chord > JP plays in The Mirror/Puppies on Acid (the low duh duh duh one) is a C power chord. I say > its a B. Post a reply to the jam so that other person can see for him/herself. Or e-mail me > privately so I can foward it. > > Matt > >>
HEY EVERBODY. IM the person who said Puppies on Acid was a C chord. and yes i was right. and to who started this bet ( i know who you are ) I WAS RIGHT AND YOU WERE WRONG. so stick your head back into your butt and move on. and keep your power trip to yourself.
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:12:48 -0800 (PST) From: "J.T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com> To: The Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: It's a B! Message-ID: <19981231201248.24345.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com>
Just wondering if anyone would like to help me settle a little bet. My friend says the chord JP plays in The Mirror/Puppies on Acid (the low duh duh duh one) is a C power chord. I say its a B. Post a reply to the jam so that other person can see for him/herself. Or e-mail meprivately so I can foward it.Matt -----------------------
It's a B. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:10:27 -0800 (PST) From: "J.T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com> To: The Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Perfect pitch? Message-ID: <19981231201027.8808.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com>
>As one of only two people in my school's Music >Department with perfect >pitch, I can tell you that the power chord played in >the Puppies on Acid >section of The Mirror is a C chord. Glad I could be >of service. :) ------------------------ You need to have your ears checked, my friend. It's clearly a low B. BTW are you at "The School for the Deaf"? jtb
_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:46:05 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Jammers on Acid Message-ID: <368BE28D.914D33DC@imap1.asu.edu>
I think I've read two posts where people are saying The Mirror (off of Awake, right? Dream Theater?) is in a C-based riff. Somebody even said they had perfect pitch and (clearly that makes him THE authority) said it was in C.
It's in B for Chrissakes. Either that or my guitar tuner's fucked up and I've been tuning my guitar a half step flat all this time!
Give Mosh back his crack pipe. No crack for you! Two weeks!
~Eckie parties like it's ARMEGGEDON! AAHHH! IT'S THE END OF THE WORRRRRLD!!! REPENT!!!
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 15:14:16 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Congratulations, madame! It's a C! (Shit, I wanted a girl) Message-ID: <003401be350b$0154ce40$0201010a@chuck>
>It's a B.
It's a C. :P I'm pretty sure of it, cuz I had to recreate it on a 6-string. As I recall John pulls a quick little harmonic downsweep across the 3rd fret and then just chords the C straight from the sweep. And that spouted directly from the Korgs' mouth. Yadda yadda yadda. But then it could be a J chord. Those are a pain in the ass to hit. :)
>You need to have your ears checked, my friend. It's clearly a low B. >BTW are you at "The School for the Deaf"?
I love how people insult each other and end the sentence with "my friend." Well, go fuck yourself, my friend. :P
All you dorks have fun at New Year's EVIL! Whooo Rah. -- Korgerio Brito says just email me the fucking WAYN MP3. :) I'll upload it for everyone. :) Unless Mr. Portnoy or someone tells me it's a no no.
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:57:23 -0500 From: Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Xmas Tree... Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981231165723.007a3680@mail.lig.bellsouth.net>
Matt said:
>As I said, I think Bogie was the one that said he'd be DATing each of the >shows. I think a compilation CD would rock.... what do you guys think???
That's what he's been planning to do all along. He wasn't about to do a tree of 8-12 CDs, now was he? :) Hope everyone had a great holiday season, and Happy New Year! _________________________________________ Adam Pye (Alpine) alpine(-at-)bellsouth.net http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/~alpine ^^ Above URL for bootlist w/ setlists _________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:41:42 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Messages... Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9812312032080.28438-100000@jaca>
Well, Cow, thanks for informing me the length of the CD.
Regarding the damn B or C debate, there's a quite easy way to decide which one it is: just extract the track to your harddrive and then use any program which does frequency analysis over the section that you think is B or C. This should give you the necessary information to decide which note that one is.
Background: central La is 440Hz and for each "small step" (I don't know the name of this in English and I'm not a musician) of "half notes", multiply (or divide) the frequency of the note by 2^{1/12}, the twelfth root of 2, assuming that you're using a well-tempered scale (I don't know if there are other scales used today -- again, I'm not a musician; I only know a bit of the Math behind it). If you multiply, you'll obviously get a higher note and, if you divide, you'll get a lower note. So, see what the most prominent frequency of the sample is and see how many potencies of 2^{1/12} are there between the note of the sample and 440Hz. This should be enough to decide which note is played. Or, if you prefer, ask JP. :-)
And regarding the "Where Are You Now?" MP3, well, I'll encode it and then I'll put it on my homepage this next week (I hope to be able to go to my University this next week, but I can't promise).
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:57:34 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Messages... Message-ID: <001901be3510$f6570700$0cda8ad0@eduardo>
> Well, Cow, thanks for informing me the length of the CD.
np.
> Regarding the damn B or C debate, there's a quite easy way to >decide which one it is: just extract the track to your harddrive and then >use any program which does frequency analysis over the section that you >think is B or C. This should give you the necessary information to decide >which note that one is.
that sounds a bit complicated - just take a freshly tuned guitar (or a keyboard) and play the beginning of the mirror and find the note on the instrument. the transcription in the Awake book (which JP edited) has it as a rake across the 4th fret harmonics then a B. moo.
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:53:56 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: B or C? That's pretty Rich... Message-ID: <001801be3529$b1fd95b0$480d84d0@korgx3>
>instrument. the transcription in the Awake book (which JP edited) has it as >a rake across the 4th fret harmonics then a B. moo.
Bah! Fuck! You're right. It is a B. :P That's what I get for trying to remember from work. There I go playing Mr. Footeater once again. Ah, well. It must have been caused by the drug-induced can of soup I ate today.
Word of Warning. Avoid Campbell's Chunky Chicken Corn Chowder from now on. Goddamn, I ate something in it I thought was a chunk of chicken and was breathing fire for an hour. I had to suck down a can of EZ cheese to get the taste out. Ickybad, bumlooker. Are you looking at me bum? At least I couldn't think coherently for about 15 minutes afterward. No one noticed. Incoherent thought is the basis upon which all engineering firms are founded. :P
I'm still sick over the whole ordeal. Like any of you care. *Care Bears! Stare* -- KorgX3 shoots a beam of light out of his tummy that makes you feel alot better about life in general, then goes back to beating My Little Pony.
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 04:03:56 -0600 (CST) From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: The XMas Shows Message-ID: <199901011003.EAA15069@adam.enteract.com>
Wild, wild wild.
I fucked myself over, in that I didn't wait long enough to get Ron Thal's e-mail containing his pager number in time to meet him when we hit Jersey on our little DT world tour. But the shows were killer (though the video was TOO FUCKING LONG!). JP's playing has REALLY changed IMO since even the FII tour. He's sounding like some kind of DiMeola / Saraceno crossbreed. REALLY cool most of the time. Sherinian is DA MAN! He was doing a lot of his solos on polyphonic patches, like pianos and organs and stuff, and still sounding great. A totally different approach than a Kevin Moore type player. Much more Emerson sounding. Syrinx (Mike Ostrich) kicks all ass. All of the Ytse's we met were majorly cool. The dumpy little place that is "out of Bass Ale" right next to Toads SUCKS ASS. So does driving in Jersey. I don't recommend the state at all actually. It was great seeing all of the DT B-Sides and stuff. I was wishing for Metropolis II or Raise the Knife, but that's not too realistic, seeing as Met II will DEFINITELY be on the new album, and RTK may make it too. We learned a lot of things on this tour. I remembered how awesome Rush can be, for one. All of the first 4 shows are most definitely recorded, and I assume will be made available on a tape/cd tree. The individual who I am certain taped the shows will come forward with info soon on how he's going to do it. Just working out a way to be fair and DIRT cheap, while trying to prevent some booter from selling it. I think the plan is to offer these cds for blanks and postage, which is the ONLY way, IMO. There will probably also be a "best of" kind of compilation. It's already got a cool title. But that's a little ways off. The 5th show may or may not ever be available on the tape tree. The individual I know who taped was unable to attend, and I know there was a problem for part of the Toads show too. That one is more easily remedied. Don't mail me with questions about the boot shows. I may help distribute the freebies, but I didn't tape them, have no control or access to them currently. The next information you get on those will be from the individual who been dere an' done dat. Sherinian does a cool ass David Lee Roth impression. Diamond Derek :) Christina (AnalogGal) from Derek's web page etc, has a total NooYoaka accent. Ya gotta hear it some time. Cowall her ona phone sometime owah somethin'. :) Ideally I would have loved for there to be completely different sets (At least for the covers) at each show. I know that would be a weird thing to expect on a tour, but that's what I had hoped for. Everything but Birch Hill was just fantastic musically though, so that's all good. LaBrie sounded like I&W James again, I shit you not. He did beautifully everywhere but BH. Got to see Nightmare Cinema for the second time too. Always fun! I really like the new DT tunes (FII and after) a lot. WAYN, STM, and TWIUTB especially sounded awesome as hell. An album with that kind of material AND a Metropolis II would be bad assed. Skadz, I don't know why the fuck we drove your ass back to Boston, but you're welcome. :) Portnoy and Derek, you guys kicked my ass inside out.
Dat's all I got ta say right now. Happy new years!
"We Can Play in 15/8 but we can't play a 12 bar blues" - Derek or Mike at the B-Hill show
- Chris
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 21:41:49 +1100 From: "Mc-Merc" <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com> To: "YTSEJAM" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Australia Message-ID: <00d801be3580$cf93ab80$LocalHost@ld-bp>
>Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:28:19 +0100 >From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> > >> This country needs about 50 million more people, and fast. > >No problem! Just re-direct all prisoners from New York county to there >and there you have it! :) >Jailhouse Rock - Yihaaa! > > HAPPY NEW YEAR all!
Yeah, well they're doin' something similar: thay're taking in all ex-Yugoslavs ;>
Of course, they could do worse by taking all members of this list, huh? And Happy New Year to you too, drongoes!
>CyberDuke, freezing on -20 Celsiusis
Mas tarde voy a la playa en Balmoral :)
BP-NP: Enchant-'Wounded'
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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 15:53:27 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: DT Mailing List Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: MP3s! Message-ID: <368CE167.AE4BFEAC@mol.com.mk>
1) IF and Where can Nightmare Cinema MP3s be found? Where the name NC came up from?
2) Is the Nicky Lemons "I don't like you" some famous punk song? Some more NL MP3s? :) URLs??? --
CyberDuke _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 12:11:29 -0500 From: Joel Timmins <picklain@dca.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: CDNow Promo OIAL CDs Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990101121129.0079d9d0@postoffice.dca.net>
Hi,
Was the issue resolved about the "promo" OIAL CDs that CDNow was sending out? Were they actually Promo copies, or were they just misprinted?
BTW, I thought James nailed "Since I've Been Loving You" in the Philly show. The entire show was incredible. And seeing John Myung *almost* laugh during Nightmare Cinema was great, too. ;)
Thanks, Joel
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:29:54 -0800 From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Jordan Rudess improv piano mp3s Message-ID: <005501be35b4$bc963aa0$8aadd6d0@multimedia>
i just added a couple jordan rudess piano mp3s at my site if anyone is interested.
peace, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com mail@jamesthorpe.com
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