YTSEJAM Digest 4531

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Tony Fredianelli/Todd Duane
     by DYER <dyer@taunet.net.au>
      2) Australia
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
      3) Happy New Year
     by INNSOUL@aol.com
      4) Where are you now?
     by INNSOUL@aol.com
      5) DPRPoll 1998
     by "Sander, Eddie (EXC)" <Eddie.Sander@Iams.com>
      6) Re: Some questions for yuz
     by "Mike Patrick" <mepatric@indy.net>
      7) Re: toad's replies
     by psull@ici.net
      8) Re: Oh where oh where is my X-Mas CD...
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
      9) Re: Where are you now?
     by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
     10) Re: Some questions for yuz
     by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
     11) http://www.mediusvision.com/lte/News.html
     by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
     12) Metropolis 2
     by Jordi Gen? Mateu <merma@telcel.net.ve>
     13) Poughkeepsie Show... *MINOR SPOILERS*
     by MTeiper@aol.com
     14) Re:thanks
     by schnapster@juno.com (Dale R Newberry)
     15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4529
     by schnapster@juno.com (Dale R Newberry)
     16) Re: Poughkeepsie Show... *MINOR SPOILERS*
     by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
     17) Happy New Year
     by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
     18) toad's net
     by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
     19) My new addy
     by SteveJV429@aol.com

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:55:54 +1000
    From: DYER <dyer@taunet.net.au>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Tony Fredianelli/Todd Duane
    Message-ID: <1296991942-126132674@smtp.octa4.net.au>

    Could the guy who emailed me a couple of times last week about Tony
    Fredianelli and Todd Duane (?) please email me again....

    I accidentally deleted your address!! :)

    Cheers

    Paul D.

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:28:19 +0100
    From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Australia
    Message-ID: <368B43B3.2121F489@mol.com.mk>

    > Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:26:57 +1100
    > From: "Mc-Merc" <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
    >
    > Shipping to Australia is so damn expensive,
    >
    > This country needs about 50 million more people, and fast.

    No problem! Just re-direct all prisoners from New York county to there
    and there you have it! :)
    Jailhouse Rock - Yihaaa!

              HAPPY NEW YEAR all!

    CyberDuke, freezing on -20 Celsiusis

    _______________________________________________________
    Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/
    E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk
    ICQ# 17392722
    _______________________________________________________

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:55:07 EST
    From: INNSOUL@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Happy New Year
    Message-ID: <d0c584be.368b580b@aol.com>

    Just wanted to wish everybody on the jam a Happy New Year!

    Sean
    www.mftt.com

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:56:13 EST
    From: INNSOUL@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Where are you now?
    Message-ID: <1bea9e75.368b584d@aol.com>

    << Wait, stop the presses! They're playing "Where Are You Now" on this tour?
    >>

    I've been trying to find this song forever! Could somebody send me an MP3 of
    this?

    Sean
    www.mftt.com

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:01:56 -0500
    From: "Sander, Eddie (EXC)" <Eddie.Sander@Iams.com>
    To: lush.attic@consunet.nl
    Subject: DPRPoll 1998
    Message-ID: <EF48ECC9BEBCD11196FA0060082C495901391F97@JAGUAR>

    Dear Progressive Rock Fans,

    It's that time of the year again ! Dutch Progressive Rock
    Page has just started its annual Readers Poll. And Santa
    has been really good to us this year and brought us a huge
    bag of prizes to raffle among the participants.

    Some of the stuff you can win:

    IQ Forever Live Box Set with video, CD and picture book

    5 x Darius package with Voices and ... a Poet's Soliloquy CDs

    2 x Darius package with Voices and ... a Poet's Soliloguy CDs
    plus the new Live CD, Live Video and a T-shirt

    Zizania Package with 8 CDs: Forever Times (Forever Times),
    Darius (Voices), Darius (... a Poet's Soliloquy), Tusk (Requiem
    for Ecstasy), Everon (Venus), All Too Human, EyeRhyme (Soul),
    Salem Hill (The Robbery Of Murder)

    Threshold Package with the new CD Clone plus a T-shirt of the
    Psychedelicatessen Tour

    3 x Inside Out prog metal promo pack with 5 CDs: Eldritch (El
    Nino promo), Symphony X (Twilight In Olympus promo), Pain Of
    Salvation (One Hour by The Concrete Lake promo), Threshold (Clone
    promo), Ivory Tower promo !!

    2 x Arena package including a membership of the international
    Arena Fan Club The Cage and the fan club-only CD Welcome Back
    to the Stage

    Tiles Package with Japanese version of Fence the Clear, US version
    of Tiles, a T-shirt and an autographed cover of Presents of Mind

    8 x Superior/Chinawhite package with Superior's CD Younique and
    Chinawhite's demo CD A Dragon's Birth.

    Several packages with CDs by Eye Rhyme and the Musea and Moonchild
    Records labels

    IQ Forever Live CD-only version

    Threshold - Clone

    And there's probably more to follow ......

    So what are you waiting for? Go to DPRP and hit the DPRPoll 1998 button.

    http://www.dprp.vuurwerk.nl/

    Greetings from The Lush Attic,
    Ed Sander
    ================================================================
    The Lush Attic (IQ Pages): http://www.dprp.vuurwerk.nl/bands/iq/
    Dutch Progressive Rock Page: http://www.dprp.vuurwerk.nl/
    ================================================================

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    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:48:43 -0500
    From: "Mike Patrick" <mepatric@indy.net>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Some questions for yuz
    Message-ID: <199812311255.HAA14917@indy1.indy.net>

    > 2. I have Enchant's ABPOTW - I've heard that Wounded sucks though, is
    > the Time Lost EP worth buying? I've heard 'New Moon' and really like it.
    > Also 'Surrounded' (cheers Mosh) is very cool, is 'Break' worth picking
    > up?

    Mike (resident Enchant nag) here.

    1. 'Wounded' sucks? Really? Sure, it's not as twisty-turny as Blueprint,
    but so what? 'Break' is MILES away from Blueprint too and it rules. Plus,
    'Wounded' has 'Pure', 'Hostile World', and 'Look Away' - those three alone
    are worth the price of admission. And as a bonus, you also get them doing
    a cover of DT's '6:00
    ' (that's a joke for anyone who has ever complained about the last song).

    2. 'Time Lost'. Rules. I've never heard anyone into Enchant say they
    didn't like this. The fact that the material represents 'leftovers' is
    questionable - most of the tunes could easily replace any other song that
    appeared on whichever album was recorded at the same time.

    3. 'Break'. To me, this is their best, most mature effort, which is too
    bad since most people in the U.S. won't hear it. Imagine latter-day Rush
    without what some people consider to be Rush's wild inconsistency. Think
    'Bravado', etc.

    In other Enchant news, they are writing new material and are shooting to
    have yet another album out by the end of summer.

    Lastly, I'll plug it shamelessly once again: Paul Craddick, their drummer,
    has a solo project called Xen which is pretty hard not to like. Drop by
    http://www.furiousskeleton.com and check out some samples and then email
    Paul and tell him you dig it. Or what you don't dig about it.

    Mike Patrick
    Indianapolis, IN
    mepatric@indy.net

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:14:48 -0500
    From: psull@ici.net
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: toad's replies
    Message-ID: <199812311405.JAA13782@bajor.ici.net>

    > Huh. From what I remember when I was there, the part they netted off was
    > where the bar is. To get alcohol, I remember I had to go to the back of
    > the room and behind that net, and I thought, "fuck this, I can't see shit"
    > so I went back to my spot in the regular section. If what you say is true,
    > that would be pretty unfair - are you sure it wasn't the other way around?

    There are two bars: One by the entrance, and one in the back. The
    under-21's were kept in the area by the first bar (near the entrance),
    so they only got to see the show from the left. (Actually, I think
    they could be in the back, too, but the soundboard would have
    blocked any view of the stage).

    > Was the full version of Paradigm Shift played too??

    No, but they played more of it than they did on OIAL (during JP's
    solo).

    > 3. How the hell do you pronounce 'Vitalij Kuprij' ?

    ba' - fu ta' - check

    ___Pat Sullivan_______________
    Email: psull@ici.net
    ICQ: 23499229
    WWW: http://www.just-like.nu

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:26:49 -0500 (EST)
    From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Oh where oh where is my X-Mas CD...
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981231092520.21289A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    Before the horses finally pulled his limbs apart, Al, The
    Ytse-Proctologist screamed forth:

    > Andrew Coutermarsh signed of with:
    > >"In the New Year, hold your right hand out
    > >always in friendship, but never in want."
    > > -- Irish toast
    >
    > Ahh... Who's Irish Toast? :/

    If you really mean that... man, I feel for you.

    - Andrew

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:38:37 -0400
    From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Where are you now?
    Message-ID: <007201be34cb$43c14e60$4eb500c7@eduardo>

    ]From: INNSOUL@aol.com <INNSOUL@aol.com>
    Subject: Where are you now?

    ><< Wait, stop the presses! They're playing "Where Are You Now" on this
    tour?
    >
    >I've been trying to find this song forever! Could somebody send me an MP3
    of
    >this?

    i don't believe there IS an mp3 of WAYN, i have a RA file, but i haven't
    been able to find it in mp3 form. i'd love to find it cuz i'm making a cd of
    rare tracks like the fii demos, TLF from the lie single, etc, and that song
    deserves to be on there, but i know of no way of unencoding an RA file...
    there's always recording it to tape and then making a wav file from the tape
    but that's not conducive to the best sound quality. can anyone either point
    me towards an mp3 of WAYN or tell me if there's any way to unencode a RA
    file? thanks. moo.

    *** END OF TRANSMISSION ***

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:44:01 -0500 (EST)
    From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
    To: Mike Patrick <mepatric@indy.net>
    Subject: Re: Some questions for yuz
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.981231093950.2859A-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>

    > 3. 'Break'. To me, this is their best, most mature effort, which is too
    > bad since most people in the U.S. won't hear it. Imagine latter-day Rush
    > without what some people consider to be Rush's wild inconsistency. Think
    > 'Bravado', etc.

            Actually, I think Break is alot better than Rush's last few
    albums. It's an exremely dark and moody album, with (to quote the late
    Kevin Gilbert) more hooks than a tackle box. There's not one bad song on
    the album, and "My Enemy" is my personal song of the year. I'll even go
    so far as to say that 'Break' is my #1 album of 1998 - it's *that* good.

     - mike.

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
          erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 15:14:53 +0000
    From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
    To: yts <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: http://www.mediusvision.com/lte/News.html
    Message-ID: <368B94ED.7566@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>

    Pasted from Jordan's site:
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    News!!

    12/15/98-John will start his overdub tomorrow hoping to hear some cool
    stuff. This album will be out next year around
    May. Also here are the titles of some tunes:

         When the water break
         Acid Rain
         Biaxident
         Another demention

     

    12/9/98-Jordan Has just finished his overdubs, waiting for John toi
    finish his.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

    Regards,
    Jon

    -- 
    *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
    | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 |
    *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
    

    "To ride the wings of dreams into changing horizons" - Myung

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    Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:33:09 -0400 From: Jordi Gen? Mateu <merma@telcel.net.ve> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Metropolis 2 Message-ID: <36745CC5.5643@telcel.net.ve>

    can anyone tell me where are the mp3 of the new version of Metropolis......

    Thanks Jordi

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:59:35 EST From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Poughkeepsie Show... *MINOR SPOILERS* Message-ID: <23e5e5f1.368b9f67@aol.com>

    Hey Jammers -

    Well, not a whole lot of surprises in last night's Poughkeepsie gig (mostly due to the fact that I've been reading about all the other X-Mas shows...), but WHAT a show it was!! Hearing Where Are You Now and Different Strings/La Villa Strangiato were breathtaking.

    As far as stuff that caught me by surprise because I haven't heard mention of it yet (and maybe this is because it's the first time they played it), but the intro to The Way It Used To Be was Run Like Hell by Floyd! Then, to close the song out, they busted into Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who!!! I was lovin' life...

    Another really cool thing for me was MP's drum part of Sunday Bloody Sunday in the middle of Bad.... it sounded like it should've been there all along. Simply brilliant.

    So anyway, I know there's been talk of a tape tree (who was organizing it, Bogie?) of the X-Mas shows. But for those of us who don't want to get one or all of the shows on tape, if all the shows got taped as originally planned, how 'bout a compilation CD of the best recordings of the songs that didn't make the video or Fan Club CD (like WAYN, Different Strings/LVS, Since I've Been Loving You, Hell's Kitchen, Run Like Hell/TWIUTB/Won't Get Fooled Again, O Holy Night, Bad (from Poughkeepsie at least for the SBS drum part), etc.)

    As I said, I think Bogie was the one that said he'd be DATing each of the shows. I think a compilation CD would rock.... what do you guys think???

    Later for now.... Matt T.

    NP: 1998 DTIFC X-Mas CD

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:40:54 -0600 From: schnapster@juno.com (Dale R Newberry) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re:thanks Message-ID: <19981231.104102.6510.2.schnapster@juno.com>

    I just want to thank everyone who sent me the info for the DTIFC. Just sent my check off yesterday. Cheers.

    Dale R. Newberry

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:08:27 -0600 From: schnapster@juno.com (Dale R Newberry) To: ytsejam@axnet.net, drnewb@spiff.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4529 Message-ID: <19981231.111146.6510.7.schnapster@juno.com>

    >http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/8573/sounds.html > >has 3 realaudio files from "Acoustic Archives" Ooh, kickass. I need to check this out as soon as I can. I heard the new non-acoustic song, and it's pretty heavy. Heavier than anything off Crawl to China. I need to look into ordering this CD, too. I'm real interested in hearing some old heavy Tourniquet classics done acoustically.

    Dale R> Newberry

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:30:20 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Poughkeepsie Show... *MINOR SPOILERS* Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981231123020.007d3c90@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>

    Matt. During Bad, at the birch hill, MP threw in the sunday bloody sunday riff there, too. I didn't remember that until you mentioned it. i really hate the idea that all the other shows were better than the Birch Hill one. I really want a cd copy of this shit. At 08:18 AM 12/31/1998 -0800, you wrote: > > Hey Jammers - > > Well, not a whole lot of surprises in last night's Poughkeepsie gig (mostly > due to the fact that I've been reading about all the other X-Mas shows...), > but WHAT a show it was!! Hearing Where Are You Now and Different Strings/La > Villa Strangiato were breathtaking. > > As far as stuff that caught me by surprise because I haven't heard mention of > it yet (and maybe this is because it's the first time they played it), but the > intro to The Way It Used To Be was Run Like Hell by Floyd! Then, to close the > song out, they busted into Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who!!! I was lovin' > life... > > Another really cool thing for me was MP's drum part of Sunday Bloody Sunday in > the middle of Bad.... it sounded like it should've been there all along. > Simply brilliant. > > So anyway, I know there's been talk of a tape tree (who was organizing it, > Bogie?) of the X-Mas shows. But for those of us who don't want to get one or > all of the shows on tape, if all the shows got taped as originally planned, > how 'bout a compilation CD of the best recordings of the songs that didn't > make the video or Fan Club CD (like WAYN, Different Strings/LVS, Since I've > Been Loving You, Hell's Kitchen, Run Like Hell/TWIUTB/Won't Get Fooled Again, > O Holy Night, Bad (from Poughkeepsie at least for the SBS drum part), etc.) > > As I said, I think Bogie was the one that said he'd be DATing each of the > shows. I think a compilation CD would rock.... what do you guys think??? > > Later for now.... Matt T. > > NP: 1998 DTIFC X-Mas CD >

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:27:47 -0800 From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Happy New Year Message-ID: <000101be34eb$471267a0$9cadd6d0@multimedia>

    I also wish everyone a Happy New Year!! My first year on the Jam. There are some really cool people on this list!!!!!! Be careful with the craziness tonight.

    Go Off!! --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com mail@jamesthorpe.com

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:40:33 -0500 From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: toad's net Message-ID: <368BC520.927594B2@bigfoot.com>

    >Naw dude, the under 21-ers were behind the net. I'm one of them. Five months >shy of my 21st. After one of the first songs, Derek turned over to our side, >and said "whats with the net?" And someone told him, and he just shook his >head. Someone said that the club didnt expect much of an under 21 crowd, so >they moved the net further over than usual. Too bad I didn't take my jacket >off, I was wearing your shirt Josh! Would have liked to meet you. BTW, it

    I would have liked to meet you too, buddy. Unfortunately I was not clear..I was at toad's place last year, not for this leg. so I'll take your word for it. Netting off the under-21's to the crappiest part! Any lawyers here? That sounds like something that should be against the civil rights of a tax-paying, law abiding adult citizen. I was 21 not that long ago, and this really pisses me off. I understand it's so they can sell more drinks and I dig capitalism, but there's better ways. besides, you should get to drink by 18 anyway. I'll stop talking now.

    -- Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com www.j51.com/~mrasiel "Shop Smart. Shop...S-Mart!"

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:42:21 EST From: SteveJV429@aol.com To: teof@egroups.com, ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: My new addy Message-ID: <c16d246b.368bc58d@aol.com>

    Sorry to waste bandwidth for this, but I'm gonna do it anyway: For those who care, I've moved from my Prodigy addy to this AOL one (yeah, I know; out of the frying pan into the fire) MR STEVE J VOGEL (T_Karrde@Prodigy.com) is still there, just not where I'll be posting from. So, I'm not anyone impersonating me, I'm really me... really.

    Sorry for lack of S-X info recently, there hasn't been any!!

    Carpe Diem Steve

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