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    Today's Topics:

      1) Happy New Year
     by "A_Change of_Seasons" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com>
      2) Toad's Place Boot!
     by Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
      3) DTIFC cashola
     by D2112T@aol.com
      4) Re: Some questions for yuz / Rhapsody
     by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
      5) AD:Family Reunion T Shirts & More
     by printz61@csi.com
      6) re: toad's net
     by AEllis1222@aol.com
      7) Re: Irving Plaza... Spoilers....
     by MutantFOOT@aol.com
      8) Re: 800.com
     by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
      9) Re: 800.com
     by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
     10) a little bet...
     by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
     11) Re: a little bet...
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
     12) Re: a little bet...
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
     13) Re: Toad's Place Boot!
     by Edward Polzin <polzin@uiuc.edu>
     14) Livetime Video Reviewed
     by Yes0001@aol.com
     15) www.shoutcast.com, ytseradio in mp3? YEAH!
     by bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst)
     16) WAYN!!!!
     by Stixntrixx@aol.com
     17) Oh where oh where is my X-Mas CD...
     by AL <al@isd.net>
     18) Enchant and Morning Redwood.
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     19) some answers NDTC
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>

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    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:28:07 PST
    From: "A_Change of_Seasons" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com>
    To: Ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Happy New Year
    Message-ID: <19981231012807.1130.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Hello Jammers.
            I would like to wish everyone Happy New Year. Some of you, I have met.
    Most of you, I have not. But HappyNewYear anyway.

            My New Year's resolution is: "Not to hold myself accountable for any
    New Year's Resolutions."

    Later,
    "POJ" =o)

    ******************************
    "Seize the day!", I heard him say.
    "Life will not always be this way.
    Look around. Hear the sounds.
    Cherish your life, while you're still around!"
    ******************************
    A Change Of Seasons -- By Dream Theater

    ______________________________________________________
    Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:36:05 -0500
    From: Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Toad's Place Boot!
    Message-ID: <368AD505.71AE@idt.net>

    Hey!
      I taped the Toad's Place show in New Haven on DAT, looking for some
    people who might have taped some other shows to trade. If so, Get in
    touch with me. I know they were switching up the setlist a bit, so I'm
    looking for all of the shows.
     
    John DiBella
    President/Xanadu Records
    http://idt.net/~rsch1/index.html

    Dream Theater Tourdate Archive
    http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/grunge/49/DreamT.html

    * In the stream of consciuosness
    There is a river crying
    Living comes much easier
    Once we admit, we're dying *

    Dream Theater

    * Be EXCELLENT to each other! *

    Bill S. Preston, Esq.

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    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:48:51 EST
    From: D2112T@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: DTIFC cashola
    Message-ID: <6e9e0ecf.368ad803@aol.com>

    If there is any confusion over where to send the DTIFC money , then as the
    great Portnoy says "you must get your head checked "

    dont flame me, that is just my 4 days of being stuck in bed with the flu and
    missing DT shows talking

    :)
    happy new years
    -darlene

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    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:16:07 -0800
    From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: Some questions for yuz / Rhapsody
    Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981230181603.00763550@postoffice.pacbell.net>

    At 05:23 PM 12/30/98 -0800, you wrote:
    >
    >4. Spock's Beard drummer Nick D'Virgillio used to drum for Tears For
    >Fears and Giraffe, right?

    Yes to both questions. He was in the studio with Tears For Fears earlier
    this year, but I don't know what ever happened to that... I haven't kept up
    with TFF, so I'm not sure if they actually released anything yet. Nick has
    also performed and/or recorded with Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Eric Burdon,
    The Manhattan Transfer, Sheryl Crow, Kevin Gilbert, and I'm sure a bunch of
    others that I'm not aware of.

    >5. This is probably more at place on the SB mailing list, but can anyone
    >offer me insights as to what the songs 'The Light IV: FU/I'm sorry' and
    >'Time Has Come' are about. Maybe I should check out the SB FAQ - Lisa?
    >:)

    Neal doesn't talk much about the lyrics, but there is a comment or two
    about The Light in the FAQ <http://www.spocksbeard.net/faq.html>, but
    nothing about FU/I'm sorry specifically. You could always email him and ask
    him though... he's pretty good about responding to email when he's home.
    spoksbrd@aol.com

    Lisa Marie "Jessie"
    ytsegirl@pacbell.net
    http://www.dreamt.org/jessie
    _________________________________________
    Thoughts - The Spock's Beard Mailing List
    http://www.spocksbeard.net
    _________________________________________
    Ytsejam Radio Broadcast
    http://www.dreamt.org/ytseradio

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    Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 05:52:40
    From: printz61@csi.com
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: AD:Family Reunion T Shirts & More
    Message-ID: <199812310228.SAA05492@thor.ax.com>

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    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:50:17 EST
    From: AEllis1222@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: re: toad's net
    Message-ID: <7deb5fc7.368ae669@aol.com>

    Naw dude, the under 21-ers were behind the net. I'm one of them. Five months
    shy of my 21st. After one of the first songs, Derek turned over to our side,
    and said "whats with the net?" And someone told him, and he just shook his
    head. Someone said that the club didnt expect much of an under 21 crowd, so
    they moved the net further over than usual. Too bad I didn't take my jacket
    off, I was wearing your shirt Josh! Would have liked to meet you. BTW, it
    was an awesome show. I was proud to be one of the 5 people there that was
    singing along to all the songs. Lets pray to god that Bogie recorded these
    shows!

    ~~Art
    www.joestump.com

    <<<Huh. From what I remember when I was there, the part they netted off was
    where the bar is. To get alcohol, I remember I had to go to the back of
    the room and behind that net, and I thought, "fuck this, I can't see
    shit" so I went back to my spot in the regular section. If what you say
    is true, that would be pretty unfair - are you sure it wasn't the other
    way around?

    --
    Joshua Rasiel   jrasi@bigfoot.com   www.j51.com/~mrasiel
    "Shop Smart. Shop...S-Mart!">>>
    

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    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:03:03 EST From: MutantFOOT@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Irving Plaza... Spoilers.... Message-ID: <39366988.368ae967@aol.com>

    The weather sucked... then again, after waiting 4 hours in the rain to get good spots in the pit tends to numb every appendage in your body..... as for the show...

    Austin Powers.... nice touch.

    The Silent Man- incredible song, I especially liked James taking the chorus up the octave at the end,..

    Another Day- Words can't describe how awsome this sounded... I was waiting for the soprano sax to come out, but too bad.

    Take Away My Pain- amazing rendition

    To Live Forever... god i love that song.. Please please put it on your next album guys...

    Ice Cream Man- nice touch putting derek up there doing the david lee roth thang

    Paradigm Shift (Liquid Tension) was absolutely incredible... definitely the highlight of my night.. mike and john were jammin like mad

    Loved O' Holy Night... James hitting the Mariah Carey-esque notes deserves major props--u the man..

    Later

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    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:15:28 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: 800.com Message-ID: <368AEC50.4F33AC42@imap1.asu.edu>

    MacAusland, Robert: HFX wrote: > > I was wondering if any Canadian Jammers were able to take advantage of 800's > nifty opening offer? I tried for almost three weeks to place my order, but > kept encountering script errors, pulldown menus with no options ad nauseum. > 800's "tech support" said it was all on account of the thousands of people > queueing up. I think it was a Canadian conspiracy.

    Don't feel too bad. I sent in my order for 800.com a while back (about 3 weeks ago); the Black Sabbath Reunion set, the Best of U2 set, and the Rush live set.

    I finally got a package in the mail today. It was addressed to me from 800.com inc. I got excited. I opened up the package and what was inside it?

    Garth Brooks live, the Best of Phil Collins, and Hootie and the Blowfish.

    }:^| Ever so pissed, ~Dimebag Eckie

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    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:54:00 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: 800.com Message-ID: <368AF558.38A15903@ivorygate.com>

    Eckie wrote: > > Don't feel too bad. I sent in my order for 800.com a while back (about > 3 weeks ago); the Black Sabbath Reunion set, the Best of U2 set, and the > Rush live set. > > I finally got a package in the mail today. It was addressed to me from > 800.com inc. I got excited. I opened up the package and what was > inside it? > > Garth Brooks live, the Best of Phil Collins, and Hootie and the > Blowfish. > }:^| > Ever so pissed, > ~Dimebag Eckie hehe, I guess that little hack I tried actually worked... Since I figured a ton of Ytsejammers would jump on the $1 deal I figured I'd use some random email addresses and crack a few of their orders... hehe, Hey Eckie, I hope you dig the Garth CD... Wait til Vinnie gets his Bush and matchbox 20 CDs... ;-)

    Have a blast at New Year's Evil (belt Dr. Mosh a good one in the mosh pit for me -- <can't make it up there>).... ;-)

    -- ~Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> <ICQ # 2070538> "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." - http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Come join the discussions in the new online Bulletin Board! <<<

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    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:09:28 -0600 (CST) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: a little bet... Message-ID: <1998123022504441@ix.netcom.com>

    Just wondering if anyone would like to help me settle a little bet. My friend says the chord JP plays in The Mirror/Puppies on Acid (the low duh duh duh one) is a C power chord. I say its a B. Post a reply to the jam so that other person can see for him/herself. Or e-mail me privately so I can foward it.

    Matt

    ===================================================== "A daily dose of eMpTyV "Following our instinct will flush your mind not a trend. Go against right down the drain." the grain until the end." -Dream Theater -Metallica =====================================================

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:22:33 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: a little bet... Message-ID: <368B0A18.4F8D7560@caribe.net>

    mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com wrote:

    > Just wondering if anyone would like to help me settle a little bet. My friend says the chord > JP plays in The Mirror/Puppies on Acid (the low duh duh duh one) is a C power chord. I say > its a B. Post a reply to the jam so that other person can see for him/herself. Or e-mail me > privately so I can foward it. > > Matt > > ===================================================== > "A daily dose of eMpTyV "Following our instinct > will flush your mind not a trend. Go against > right down the drain." the grain until the end." > > -Dream Theater -Metallica > =====================================================

    im pretty damn sure its a low B

    ill spare the sig - Carlos

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    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:26:07 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: a little bet... Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981230232502.13350A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com wrote:

    > > Just wondering if anyone would like to help me settle a little bet. My friend says the chord > JP plays in The Mirror/Puppies on Acid (the low duh duh duh one) is a C power chord. I say > its a B. Post a reply to the jam so that other person can see for him/herself. Or e-mail me > privately so I can foward it. > > Matt > > > As one of only two people in my school's Music Department with perfect pitch, I can tell you that the power chord played in the Puppies on Acid section of The Mirror is a C chord. Glad I could be of service. :)

    ------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu http://oz.plymouth.edu/~a_couter/ ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------- "In the New Year, hold your right hand out always in friendship, but never in want." -- Irish toast -------------------------------------------

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    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:17:05 -0600 From: Edward Polzin <polzin@uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Toad's Place Boot! Message-ID: <368B08D1.93ADD0A7@uiuc.edu>

    I'm interested in getting a cdr copy of the show. check out my list at:

    http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~polzin

    let me know if you find anything. later.

    Xanadu Records wrote:

    > Hey! > I taped the Toad's Place show in New Haven on DAT, looking for some > people who might have taped some other shows to trade. If so, Get in > touch with me. I know they were switching up the setlist a bit, so I'm > looking for all of the shows. > > John DiBella > President/Xanadu Records > http://idt.net/~rsch1/index.html > > Dream Theater Tourdate Archive > http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/grunge/49/DreamT.html > > * In the stream of consciuosness > There is a river crying > Living comes much easier > Once we admit, we're dying * > > Dream Theater > > * Be EXCELLENT to each other! * > > Bill S. Preston, Esq.

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:06:12 EST From: Yes0001@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Livetime Video Reviewed Message-ID: <1fe54119.368b1454@aol.com>

    Music Street Journal 12 is online now. It includes part one of a special on California based progressive rock band Lands End. For this month`s segment of the special there is a review of their latest album (d)rainage and the album An Older Land. Other progressive rock reviews for the month are Emerson, Lake and Palmer`s Then And Now CD and Dream Theater-5 Years in A Livetime video. The new progressive metal review for the month is New Sun-Affects, while Black Sabbath`s technical ecstasy is the progressive metal flashback for January. Chasing the Mad Rabbit, by Bliss, a wonderful example of expert songwriting, is the new nonprogressive review. BOC`s Joe Bouchard`s band The X Brothers` album Solid Citizens is the nonprogressive flashback. An intriguing album by OnOffOn called Surrender Now is the Indie Mania release for this month. Check out the site at www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/9250/ or use this link <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/9250/">Music Street Journal</A> . If you would like to be added to my notification list, please email me at Yes0001@aol.com.

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:20:22 -0600 From: bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: www.shoutcast.com, ytseradio in mp3? YEAH! Message-ID: <199812310620.AAA25026@busprod.com>

    http://www.shoutcast.com

    a neat little server program that lets you broadcast in streaming mp3 format.... has potential.

    bruce forst bforst@busprod.com

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 02:57:28 EST From: Stixntrixx@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: WAYN!!!! Message-ID: <6894a77.368b2e68@aol.com>

    Wait, stop the presses! They're playing "Where Are You Now" on this tour? The world really must be coming to an end. This song needs to be released. I don't care why, I don't care how, but this song needs to be heard. It's right up there with Surrounded and LSOAD (which is the probably highest praise I can give a song) and I've only heard it through my little one-inch speaker via a realaudio file. If you're not going to put it on the next album, for God's sake make it a b-side or something. -End of Rant-

    Richie

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 02:29:23 -0600 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Oh where oh where is my X-Mas CD... Message-ID: <368B35E3.33677CB9@isd.net>

    I feel like a little kid chasing down the mailman for that long awaited "prize" from the folks at Kellogg's.

    Thank God I have a 9 year old son! Someone needs to check the mail every half hour until it shows up. It's fucking cold out. :-)

    Andrew Coutermarsh signed of with: >"In the New Year, hold your right hand out >always in friendship, but never in want." > -- Irish toast

    Ahh... Who's Irish Toast? :/

    -- AL... The Ytse-Progtologist

    Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Postman thinks we're stalking him.

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:44:20 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Enchant and Morning Redwood. Message-ID: <005c01be3499$c40b2d20$5d0d84d0@korgx3>

    >2. I have Enchant's ABPOTW - I've heard that Wounded sucks though, is >the Time Lost EP worth buying? I've heard 'New Moon' and really like it. >Also 'Surrounded' (cheers Mosh) is very cool, is 'Break' worth picking

    Hell, yah. IMO, Break and Wounded share much of the same feel, only Wounded is actually heavier. Before forking over the money to pick up Time Lost (which is my least favorite), I'd recommend Wounded instead. Time Lost is a collection of B-Sides from the two albums. You can't go wrong with it, but the only place I've seen it for sale it was about $30. :) I wouldn't get it until you were comfortable with Wounded. I still don't understand how someone who liked ABotW couldn't like Wounded, but opinions are like pubic hair, everyone has a few and no one else wants to hear anything about 'em.

    If you like Wounded, go for Time Lost. People have ragged about Break being Enchant's sell-out alternative/grungy album and all kinds of other bullshit. I, personally, don't detect anything of the sort. I would think Break would be a sure bet for anyone who really liked ABotW and Wounded. So, to wrap it up, chronological order works. You have ABotW. Get Wounded next, then make the choice whether you want Break or Time Lost. Either is a winner after that. (whew!)

    > hehe, I guess that little hack I tried actually worked... Since I figured a >ton of Ytsejammers would jump on the $1 deal I figured I'd use some random

    If I get a bunch of Sexy Manly IMAX DVD's I'm kicking your ass, Kizer. Oh, wait. I think I ordered those anyway...

    --KorgX3 is pretending that he's sodomizing a sequoia.

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    Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:53:06 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: some answers NDTC Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F392F@ms.kallback.com>

    > From: Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au> > 1. I just picked up Echolyn's "As The World" and really dig it. Is > their > second effort "When The Sweet Turns Sour" worth picking up as well? Yes, anything by Echolyn, IMO, is great. Too bad their earlier stuff is unavailable.

    > Also, I believe that the majority of the members of the now defunct > Echolyn are in Finneus Gauge. Can anyone reccomend any FG albums to > check out? More Once More is widely available. To get their second one, One Inch of the Fall, send $16 to: Inverse Entertainment PO Box 2355 Jenkintown, PA 19046

    > 2. I have Enchant's ABPOTW - I've heard that Wounded sucks though, is > the Time Lost EP worth buying? I've heard 'New Moon' and really like > it. > Also 'Surrounded' (cheers Mosh) is very cool, is 'Break' worth picking > up? I like Wounded, but I think Time Lost is the best. I haven't heard Break yet, but will be buying it.

    > 3. How the hell do you pronounce 'Vitalij Kuprij' ? Vee-TAH-Lee(j?) KOO-preej is my guess. Doesn't really matter. Both cds smoke.

    > 4. Spock's Beard drummer Nick D'Virgillio used to drum for Tears For > Fears and Giraffe, right? I don't know, but if anyone has any Giraffe cds for sale, I'll buy them. I'll pay for cdrs too.

    > 5. This is probably more at place on the SB mailing list, but can > anyone > offer me insights as to what the songs 'The Light IV: FU/I'm sorry' > and > 'Time Has Come' are about. Maybe I should check out the SB FAQ - Lisa? Lisa? :)

    > There is one downside I found to this album - the narrated parts. > Ugggghh, they're terrible. Sir Jay Lansford (who sounds remarkably > like > the voice of the Elven characters in WarCraft II) is probably the > worst > choice for a narrator of a fantasy style story. No, the worst narrator was that guy in that band at the very first Progfest in LA. 92?

    > For starters he has a > shocking lisp which make me cringe as he struggles through the > passages, Kind of like Barbara Walters saying "Mariah Carey"? :)

    Have a New Year, Trevor

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