YTSEJAM Digest 3534
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Howard Stern E! shows
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
2) re: Just the FAQ
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
3) Re: yes albums
by "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com>
4) someone help?
by Thrak75@aol.com
5) PARODY: "Swallowed Beers"
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3532
by "Richard D. Urban Jr." <radmax@fia.net>
7) NDTC: mp3 file problems & solution
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
8) Tr-Rack Info
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
9) Re: New FAQ Maintainer
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
10) YtseCon II photo and index
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
11) Re: PARODY: "Swallowed Beers"
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
12) KAI selling cheap CDRs
by Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com>
13)
by ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE (Arash Ashouriha FB03)
14) Yes: Just say Yes
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
15) Re: The other day...
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3533
by "Joshua P. Walkowicz" <jpwalkowicz@freh-03.adpc.purdue.edu>
17) New Satriani CD Release Date
by cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert)
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 98 20:49:07 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Howard Stern E! shows
Message-ID: <34d7d722248d003@mhub3.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:44:24 -0800 (PST)
from Jan-Michael Souter <jmsouter@airmail.net>:
> Yes... I have ALL of Howard's E! shows on tape back from when it started
> in
> '94 and I have the series before that which ran in '93 of just Howard and
> a
> celebrity guest one-on-one called the Howard Stern E! Interview Shows.
Here's a question: does anyone have copies of Howard's old syndicated tv
show on tape? I doubt it...but you never know.
-Brian
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 22:09:40 -0500
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: The Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: re: Just the FAQ
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980203220938.0068e384@pop.ici.net>
>The FAQ is good, but
>I'm not nearly as interested in what specific time during the movie a
>sample was taken from,=20
This begins to sound vaguely narcissistic here. "*I'm* not nearly as
interested".
The fact is, the FAQ can't be all things to all people, just like this list
is never going to be exactly what everyone wants it to be. We could do as
you say and start putting all kinds of useful/useless trivial little things
in there, but lets be realistic; at some point you have to draw the line.
]From here I can see a FAQ that approaches 1 MB in plain text and contains
every bit of minutiae right down to the bands' (and former members')
underwear preferences. That's something I'd rather *not* see.
>I mean, think about it....here is a person who will have some contact
>with the band. Isn't it about time we started using that power for more
>information that just "was that sample at the beginning or end of Dead
>Poet's Society, Mike?"
Translation: Isn't it time we start abusing that power a little bit more
and annoying Mike to give us more and more info until we piss him off so
bad the entire band begins to shun us and encourage other fans to spit on
us at concerts?
Okay, maybe that's a little extreme, but....
It's the same as the petitions. Because of some "connection" with a band
member, suddenly people think we have a magical "power". News flash: We
don't. We're just the extremely-rabid, moderately-computer-literate,
flame-suit-wearing Dream Theater fans. My suggestion would be not to abuse
what little "power" we *do* have.
=20
=20
_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________
E-Mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator ICQ: 2049374
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 19:31:28 -0800
From: "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: yes albums
Message-ID: <199802040336.TAA13827@baygate.bayarea.net>
> i picked up the first kta, and i fell totally in love with yes again.
> that version of "revealing science of god" was just simply amazing.
I completely agree with you here. It blew me away too.
> now mind you, paul- i've been very skeptical of old prog bands writing new
> music. most of the new albums by these bands (i.e., elp's "in the hot seat")
> are usually piss poor. however, the studio stuff on kta I was actually a lot
> better than average.
Again we are in agreement.
> however, i really didn;t get the same effect on kta II. you've already hear my
> rant about how bad i think "close to the edge" sounded (and that's one of my
> fave yes tunes). and son, you got a lot of courage to be saying that the
> studio stuff on kta II is actually better. but you're allowed to. i guess we
> listen to it differently.
Well, this is where we disagree, but that's OK. Close to the Edge is
one of my favorites too, but the highlight of these live tracks for
me is Turn of the Century. As for the studio stuff, I probably like
the KTA 2 stuff better simply because there's more of it. I do think
"Mind Drive" kicks some major ass. I also think that they should
have put all the new tracks on a separate album -- they would just
fit on one CD. Had they done this, it would have easily been my
favorite Yes album since Going for the One.
Sorry if I over-reacted to the original post, but I think that both
Keys to Ascension albums are classics, so I felt the need to defend
KTA 2.
Dream Theater Content:
I was listening to the DT/Steve Howe Yes medley from the covers gig
again the other day (from Dr. Mosh's web site). It is extremely
cool. Sure hope they officially release it one of these days (maybe
a B-side, or an extra track on the Metropolis 2 EP).
-Paul
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Paul Humm
humm@levy.com
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 22:34:31 EST
From: Thrak75@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: someone help?
Message-ID: <c2b75734.34d7e1c9@aol.com>
hey- can someone forward me a copy of ytsejam 3532, please? i was unable to
read it. something wrong with the aol here. much appreciated. i'll get back to
the people talking yes asap.
koba, wild.
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david y. kobayashi
the new york law school
thrak75@aol.com
"it's hard for me to say what's right when all i wanna do is wrong." -prince
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 22:57:20 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: PARODY: "Swallowed Beers"
Message-ID: <199802040357.WAA04704@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
Hey, gang. My turn to jump in the fray. :)
"Swallowed Beers"
to the tune of "Hollow Years"
-Merlo, Gibaldi
He's just the kind of man
You hear about
Who leaves his family for
A boys' night out
They never saw the signs
"Nickel Beers Tonight"
They couldn't stand to stay away
Carry me to the bathroom
I need a helping hand
Walk me across the dance floor
I don't think I can stand
Once the stool
You're falling off of
Is lifted off your shoulders
Once the bouncer pounding
over your head disappears
The noise that you'll hear
Is the splashing down of swallowed beers.
She's just the kind of girl
You're warned about
She'll always want another
She'll never be without
You buy her all her drinks
You tell her everything
And then she turns and walks away
Carry me to the bathroom
I need a helping hand
Walk me across the dance floor
I don't think I can stand
Once the stool
You're falling off of
Is lifted off your shoulders
Once the bouncer pounding
over your head disappears
The noise that you'll hear
Is the splashing down of swallowed beers.
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cmerlo@cs.wm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates
d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart
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http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/tsor
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:59:24 -0600
From: "Richard D. Urban Jr." <radmax@fia.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3532
Message-ID: <003c01bd3121$494b5f00$697ed7cf@default>
> 13) Fwd: Re: 'Peruvian Skies' Parody
> by Nicholas Giannotti <nickg@gis.net>
>
Can someone repost this. I don't know if it was my server, or the that
whole digest, but, the one that I got only went to Item 5. She's right,
this is weird...
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 23:19:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: NDTC: mp3 file problems & solution
Message-ID: <199802040419.XAA12486@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sorry for the NDTC here, but this will solve alot of problems that
people are having w/ downloading MP3 files from the web, and solve
them on the server side, more importantly. If the server is running
apache (which most good sites probably are, not sure if this works
with any other servers), create a file in the directory where the
files are stored called .htaccess In that file, add the following
line:
AddType audio/mpeg mp3
This will cause the server to serve the files as a binary, rather than
as text/html as I guess apache defaults to. I did email a change
request to the apache maintainers, but have not heard anything back
about this. Another solution is that (yuck) IE will download the
files as binary. I am not sure why it does this, and Netscape and
Lynx do not. This is something to mention in the web page, if you
can't get your server (or server admin) to fix the broken mime type
(if you have root, you can add mp3 to the audio/mpeg line in the
mime.types file)
--
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
| A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater |
| will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity |
| --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! |
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/
Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:08:13 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: "'Ytsejam@ax.com'" <Ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Tr-Rack Info
Message-ID: <01BD30E7.D7A1DD90@FREYA>
Damon asked, so here we go.
The TR-Rack is a one-rack space module, with 32 voice polyphony (16 for
double-oscillator programs, which is most of them) and 16 channel
multitimbral. You can set it up in Combi mode like other Korg units which
gives you 8 channels miltitimbral, but it has a multi mode which gives you
all 16.
The sounds are your standard Trinity (read: great) fare, no prophecy, just
the samples. It has a really sophisticated effect processor in it, which
lets you do 2 master effects, (one reverb and one chorus) plus a number of
insert effects on the channels. The insert effects are really complicated,
but let's just say that you can have a really good distortion on one
channel, a good Leslie on another, and still have room for a third insert
effect on a third channel. These are in addition to the master effects, so
you can have both distortion and reverb.
Price: My dealer had it for $1149.00 plus tax, but I talked him down a
bit.
It is really new, so your local shop may not be able to get you one
quickly. My dealer is limited to one unit per month for now, and I got
their first one after 3 days of it being in the store. It's a fun unit,
and I'm going to be selling my old Proteus/1 as I no longer need it because
of the TR-Rack.
~Chris
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 00:15:15 -0500 (EST)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: New FAQ Maintainer
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980204001427.29503B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
Congrats Pat!!! If ever there were a worthy man...
As for Chris, you've done one helluva job man...you deserve big time
kudos! Good luck with school!
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^ If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) ^
^ (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major ^
^ would have 4 sharps. ^
^ "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) ^
^ Eric Moegling: Manager for "Lifting Shadows Off A Ring" ^
^ and "Progressive Genius" ^
^ The Dream theater and Progressive Metal WebRings ^
^ HOMEPAGE - http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN or http://www.wezl.org/lift ^
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:11:09 -0800 (PST)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YtseCon II photo and index
Message-ID: <199802040511.AA27496@crl.crl.com>
I've now added an index to the group photo from YtseCon II, so if
you've always wondered what Chris Merlo looks like, or me, or Bafu, or
Brian "Wacky" Wherry with long hair (!), go to the following URL (my
home page) and click on the group photo thumbnail.
http://www.crl.com/~vanyel/index.html
--And if you are in the photo and not listed in the index, please email
me so I can add you. (I have a feeling half of those folks, at least,
are No Longer With Us. :))
Recently the Ytsejam has fulfilled Rule #1 regarding all Prog Discussion
Areas:
"It may take months or years, but you WILL end up discussing Yes and
their lineup changes." :)
Pat D. and Al B. reconciled? It -must- be an early effect of the New
Millenium. :)
Five Gratuitous CDs:
DT, THE WAY IT OUGHT TO BE (#2 of 2 CD-Rs made by BigSwifty) --
includes the demos and unreleased FII material
Stratovarius, VISIONS
Symphony X, THE DIVINE WINGS OF TRAGEDY
Ozric Tentacles, THE BITS BETWEEN THE BITS
Sean Malone, CORTLANDT
--
Paul W. Cashman ICQ #4151223 | Better the pride that resides
vanyel@crl.com | In a Citizen of the World
www.crl.com/~vanyel | Than the pride that divides
lyrics by Neil Peart ----------> When a colorful rag is unfurled
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 00:35:56 -0500 (EST)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: PARODY: "Swallowed Beers"
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980204003456.29695D-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
Hot damn! That's the best one yet!!! Excellent work guys! Maybe we should
do a DT-fan tribute CD with us doing the parodies instead of actual DT
songs J/K :)
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^ According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: ^
^ If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) ^
^ (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major ^
^ would have 4 sharps. ^
^ "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) ^
^ Eric Moegling: Manager for "Lifting Shadows Off A Ring" ^
^ and "Progressive Genius" ^
^ The Dream theater and Progressive Metal WebRings ^
^ HOMEPAGE - http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN or http://www.wezl.org/lift ^
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 01:32:53 -0700
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: KAI selling cheap CDRs
Message-ID: <34D827B5.4C7A@goodnet.com>
I have only two questions for Eric/KAI. Do you still live at home with
parents, and/or do you work for Verbatim? Because if neither of the
above is true, I have a hard time understanding how you're going to keep
up your CDR business with low prices like that. If I can't do it, AND
Ryan Whitaker can't do it, AND Neil Elliott can't do it, AND Joe DiBella
can't do it... see where I'm going with this? Russ Sundquist beats us
*slightly* on price ($2), but his stuff is bare-bones like yours and he
won't spring for the quality media (Verbatim silver/blue).
One of several things will happen: you probably are keeping a full time
job to offset the costs, but you'll quickly find yourself with no time
for it. You'll either have to hike prices to keep afloat financially, or
your backlogs will make mine look like a wait at McDonalds, or you'll
have to cut corners everywhere. The possible positive outcome is that if
you last until fall, CDR media's price should put you in a good position
to maintain your low price. I myself plan to have things at $13 or below
by October, including color liners and color images on the discs
themselves. Anyway, I applaud you for making what seems to be a sound
business move, because the consumers will *love* you, but even as a
competitor, I don't want to see your life go to hell because you didn't
charge enough. It's happened to some large, successful companies, and
it's a darned shame.
Anyway, however you're doing it, good luck, you have certainly upped
the ante for the rest of us to become efficient enough to match you. Of
course, we're going to wait and see if it's successful before we commit
to it ourselves. :) And you may or may not wish to copy my CDs for
people... even if I asked you not to, you still could (they're bootlegs
after all) but all of us already doing this CDR thing have a
"professional-courtesy" sort of agreement not to cross-sell each others
stuff (for this reason I've also stopped selling Carpe Diem), so you may
wish to have that same courtesy extended to you, should you start making
custom titles.
To all: the Precious Things backlog is GONE and the Darkest of winters
backlog is ALMOST gone! I've outdone myself! The era of near-immediate
shipments on all titles is at hand, and her name is "Spring 1998"!! :)
It's amazing what you can do when your e-mail connection is so bad that
you just spend all your time making discs.
--
- Mike Bahr / Prism Records
- durnik @ goodnet . com
- http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 98 11:44:48 +0100
From: ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE (Arash Ashouriha FB03)
Message-ID: <9802041044.AA06867@hera.KR.FH-Niederrhein.DE>
Hi
I haven't recive na any digests since 2 days !!!
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 12:04:51 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: "Harm's Way" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Yes: Just say Yes
Message-ID: <34D85963.5690@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
I've only been spot checking jams (about 100 left in the mailbox to work
up a good headache over :) but I notice that the Yes thread seems to be
alive and well!
It appears that the same kind of thing occurs with Yes that occurs with
DT. That is, there are basically 6 groups:
1) All things 'early Yes' rule, all else sucks
2) All things 'recent Yes' rule, all else sucks
3) All things Yes rule
4) All things Yes suck
5) Most things Yes are quite enjoyable to me, I can find tunes
throughout their almost 30 year history that groove, and I don't need to
rip someone's orifice if they like something more than something else.
Does 1) remind you of those who think WDADU and I&W are the best DT?
Does 2) remind you of those who hate Charlie's voice :)
Does 3) remind you of threads which summoned a reply "I like DT too, but
it doesn't mean I'll get down on my knees and blow them" :)
Does 4) remind you of Tempus? (hehehe, j/k Jeremy :)
Does 5) remind you of a normal person? If so, seek help, I'm not normal
:)
I won't stay out of Harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm's Waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy.....
Jon
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| Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 |
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 07:54:53 -0500
From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The other day...
Message-ID: <v01530502b0fe13ee6ecb@[209.50.100.117]>
>>The other day, while passing a bored moment watching speed
>>skating, I heard a familiar tune in the background on the tv. ESPN or
>>whoever was showing a compilation of great moments from each finalist in the
>>speed skating competition with some visual editing effects and music
>>background. At the start of the clip, they were playing Hells Kitchen!
Talk about sellin' out and going commercial, geez, have you seen the nasal
decongestant ad with "Just Let Me Breathe? :-)
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 07:54:06 EST
From: "Joshua P. Walkowicz" <jpwalkowicz@freh-03.adpc.purdue.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3533
Message-ID: <30C8607637@freh-03.adpc.purdue.edu>
> Ahoy,
>
> The other day, while passing a bored moment watching speed
> skating, I heard a familiar tune in the background on the tv. ESPN or
> whoever was showing a compilation of great moments from each finalist in the
> speed skating competition with some visual editing effects and music
> background. At the start of the clip, they were playing Hells Kitchen! I got
> excited thinking they might play it for the duration of the clip, but of
> course it quickly went into a techno track. When the little thingy was
> wrapping up, they closed the last couple of seconds with New Millenium!
>
>
> + o Colonel Mustard o +
Cool...I actually saw someone skating to a Savatage song the other
day (alone you breath).
Josh
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 08:09:11 -0600
From: cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert)
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Satriani CD Release Date
Message-ID: <01bd3176$776bd720$232227d1@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
According to www.satriani.com , Joe's new album "Crystal Planet"
is in store March 3rd! Head over to his page and check out the two RealAudio
songs from the CD...
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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