YTSEJAM Digest 3533
Today's Topics:
1) More Yes...
by Steve Chew <schew@tis.com>
2) Re: yes albums
by Damon Fibraio <Damon74@concentric.net>
3) Re: TR-Rack
by Damon Fibraio <Damon74@concentric.net>
4) Re: Peruvian Thighs
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
5) Dream Theater on Ice
by cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert)
6) Drums Again
by "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>
7) Re: Drums Again
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
8) FA Q All. :)
by Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
9) $10 bootlegs on CDr
by erodger@fore.com
10) KEVIN MOORE SIGNED TO MASSACRE IN EUROPE
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
11) FAQ this...
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
12) Cymbals/AOW/Eyes
by Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu>
13) SB question-answered
by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
14) mp3
by Todd <twwilso@students.uiuc.edu>
15) YNM
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
16) Portnoy on VOX
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
17) Re: SB question-answered
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
18) Howard Stern E! shows
by Jan-Michael Souter <jmsouter@airmail.net>
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:32:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Steve Chew <schew@tis.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: More Yes...
Message-ID: <199802032032.PAA06082@clipper.hq.tis.com>
>
>fave yes tunes). and son, you got a lot of courage to be saying that the
>studio stuff on kta II is actually better. but you're allowed to. i guess we
>listen to it differently.
>
To give another point of view, I have to say that I absolutely love
the song "Mind Drive" off of KTA 2. I'd agree that the rest of the
new stuff of KTA 2 isn't as good as the two new songs on KTA 1, but I
think that "Mind Drive" is the best thing Yes has done since "Awaken"
and maybe before that. It has the cool, classic Yes' "long-song"
structure combined with some wonderful melodies -- I love it. I also
really enjoy the two new songs on KTA 1 but the melodies in "Mind
Drive" put it to the top for me.
I think that both KTA albums are worth getting for Yes fans but if
you're just curious to hear what Yes is like I'd recommend "Classic Yes"
which is a representative greatest-hits type of collection.
Steve
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:38:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Damon Fibraio <Damon74@concentric.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: yes albums
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980203153730.26304D-100000@voyager.cris.com>
I have to speak up here. I have KTA and KTA 2. I have to ask Dave, the fan
of close to the Edge, what is wrong with a song like Mind Drive off KTA 2.
That song made me piss myself. I think that is the best post 90125 song
ever written, and I like Trevor Raben era yes. The rest of the songs on
KTA 2 are not as good as Mind Drive, but I think they are much better than
Be the One from the original KTA. I think That that is could've been
better but is still good.
-- Damon Fibraio, damon74@concentric.net Keyboardist, Vocalist, wanna-be computer consultant "One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity,."--Spirit of Radio, Rush, 1980------------------------------
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:39:59 -0500 (EST) From: Damon Fibraio <Damon74@concentric.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: TR-Rack Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980203153941.26304E-100000@voyager.cris.com>
I want. Tell me more about this thing. Price, etc. Please, please, and don't refer me to a damn web site.
-- Damon Fibraio, damon74@concentric.net Keyboardist, Vocalist, wanna-be computer consultant "One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity,."--Spirit of Radio, Rush, 1980
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 20:48:34 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: "Harm's Way" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Peruvian Thighs Message-ID: <34D782A2.2BE1@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
> At Jon Parmet's urging, here's my parody of "Peruvian Skies" > If you get offended, remember - it's a JOKE. :) > -Nicholas
And remember, I urged him, so you can blame me :) -- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:21:48 -0600 From: cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert) To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dream Theater on Ice Message-ID: <01bd30e9$bc777320$342227d1@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
The other day, while passing a bored moment watching speed skating, I heard a familiar tune in the background on the tv. ESPN or whoever was showing a compilation of great moments from each finalist in the speed skating competition with some visual editing effects and music background. At the start of the clip, they were playing Hells Kitchen! I got excited thinking they might play it for the duration of the clip, but of course it quickly went into a techno track. When the little thingy was wrapping up, they closed the last couple of seconds with New Millenium!
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 16:42:02 -0400 From: "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Drums Again Message-ID: <852565A0.0071A293.00@ATLMAIL.IBMUS2.IBM.COM>
GnRBrks@aol.com wrote:
>Drums:Pearl Prestige Studio,birch,lacquered finish Sheer Blue.10" 12" 14" 22" and 14" Free Floating Brass Snare....and a double pedal.<
Sounds like my kit. Drums: Pearl Prestige Studio, birch, lacquered finish Sheer Blue. 8", 10", 12", 14", 16", 22" w/ a chrome 14" Free Floating snare and a double pedal.
And for DT content.... Mike Portnoy played on it. So there!!!!!!
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:44:36 -0500 (EST) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Drums Again Message-ID: <199802032244.RAA08440@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
> Sounds like my kit. > Drums: Pearl Prestige Studio, birch, lacquered finish Sheer Blue. 8", 10", > 12", 14", 16", 22" w/ a chrome 14" Free Floating snare and a double pedal. > > And for DT content.... Mike Portnoy played on it. So there!!!!!! >
Portnoy played on your drum set! That's awesome d00d! Did he sign it too?!?! Details, details, maybe you can put up some pix of it on a website or something......
reeling from a bad day at work,
-al
-- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Her mouth is a soft explosion of roses A burst of raw animal definition For a few moments I was mortal......... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= email: balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu the_prof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 16:45:20 -0600 (CST) From: Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu> To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: FA Q All. :) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.980203163605.13269A-100000@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
>From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com> > >>> The new maintainer of the Dream Theater Frequently >>> Asked Questions List is... >>> Pat Griffin <gabbo@dreamt.org>. > >Oh Jesus. I hope that he finally gets things even with Al B. before he >has to put all of his attention to the FAQ !!
Well, let's get the ball rolling...
Q: Are you the Pat who...
A: No. In fact, there are several Pats on the jam, and last I checked, I am not the one that complained (is complaining? I heard a nasty rumor that things actually got resolved) about Al B. I'm the one that sells the T-Shirts, makes all the smart ass remarks and just got appointed to the FAQ. :)
Anyway, I talked to Merlo and thanked him personally for the choice. I wasn't quite expecting to be chosen with the other people in the running, but I will do the best I can to keep the FAQ interesting and up to date. In other words, the opposite of the Official Dream Theater Web Site.
Merlo is forwarding all his backlogged mail of things to update, and I have gotten a few emails about it as well. I'll try to get something up this weekend (uh huh huh), but it really depends on the amount of stuff there is to change.
Also, someone in the last jam posted some suggestions for the FAQ. That stuff is good, but please do me a favor and forward the post to me as well as to the jam. Mail me at gabbo@dreamt.org and it should get here. Sometimes I have a tendancy to miss things that are posted.
Anyway, if you have any suggestions, comments, insult, bribes, nude photos (just kidding, hon) or anything else for me, send it my way.
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o / | Pat Griffin Reality Squared Design | | gabbo@dreamt.org shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 18:35:28 -0500 From: erodger@fore.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: $10 bootlegs on CDr Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980203183528.00a09370@mailhost.eng.fore.com>
DT live and demo stuff - cheap! If you care about the music and not the fancy artwork, here ya go.
The following boots on CDr for $10 per CDr ($20 for doubles):
The Dance of Eternity (2 CD) - the best DT boot ever - incl. ACOS, Eve w/samples, TLF A+ Lost in the Sky (2 CD) - The best sounding I&W boot - incl. OaMoT w/ March of the Tyrant A+ Consciously Unreal (1 or 2 CDs) - disc 2 contains a show w/ Charlie (5 tunes) B-/C+ Dream Out Loud - Contains Status Seeker found on Bahr's WDATU A- Home Sweet Home - average boot B/B+ Majesty 1986 demo - w/ Chris Collins (6 songs) Majesty 1987 InstruMental demo - contains Resurrection of Ernie Waking Up the World (Denver) (2 CD) - FM broadcast Mind Control (2 CD) A Kick Into a Dream (2 CD) Uncovered (2 CD) Caught in Amsterdam (2 CD) - contains FII material
I'll also copy any of the Bahr CDs, unless he asks me not to.
more DT to come...
Also available: Megadeth - Europe 1993 from the Countdown to Extinction tour A- Wildhearts - Unreleased demos Wildhearts - Radio One Session/Hultsfred Festival Live L.A. Guns - 1986 Unreleased demos w/ Paul Black on vocals L.A. Guns - Various live Danger Danger - Cockroach (unreleased last album with Ted Poley vocals) 1958 - Nikki Sixx solo project Black N' Blue - 1983 demos and live
Shipping: $1.50 per CD for US/Canada - for foreign orders, email me for shipping.
To order, simply send a check or money order or cash (your responsibility), along with a note that details specifically what CD you are ordering. If it's not obvious, or I can't read your writing, I'll send you whatever one I want...you get the point. Also make sure to include your return address.
**No artwork or fancy jewel case liners will be provided. These are cheap because I don't have the time or the talent to deal with covers. A typed setlist will accompany the CD, and you can either put it in the jewel case, or make yourself a nice cover. These CDs are not for collectors, they're for poor people and cheap bastards who only care about the music on the CD, like me.
Send orders to:
Eric KAI Rodger 3201 Salisbury Ct. Wexford, PA 15090
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:36:18 -0500 (EST) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: KEVIN MOORE SIGNED TO MASSACRE IN EUROPE Message-ID: <v01520d00b0fd143f826d@[207.90.120.34]>
from http://www.massacre-records.com/
New signing on Massacre Records:
We proudly announce, that Massacre has signed
CHROMA KEY
CHROMA KEY is: Kevin Moore (ex-Dream Theater) Jason Anderson Joey Vera (Fates Warning, Armored Saint) Mark Zonder (Fates Warning)
Debut-Album "DEAD AIR FOR RADIOS" out on June 6th
Cool news!!!!
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm (at) erinet (dot) com Galactic Cowboys on the Web...muh!? http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm ---+ +---
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 18:36:58 -0500 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FAQ this... Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980203183658.0072b70c@pop.wam.umd.edu>
Good sections to include, methinks...
- bands that have opened for DT, bands DT's opened for, bands they've shared gigs with, etc. - songs DT's covered (there's already a section on this, but given all the covers as of late, it could serve to be overhauled) - a section telling every person reading the FAQ to mail me $1
Just tossing some ideas around. Heed them or be square.
Brian "Industrial Strength" Henderson
=========================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ ===========================
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 19:02:27 -0500 From: Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Cymbals/AOW/Eyes Message-ID: <34D7B013.3F07@mtu.edu>
Hello-
Gotta say I'm a Zildjian man all the way. I personally like A Customs the best for crashes and chinas, but I like z custom hi-hats and k custom ridesat 20"+. I recieved my Age Of Wonders last week and I must say it is very good, another excellent project by the Bahrman. Pearts solo is much better than the one on ATWAS IMHO. Now if I could only get my E2E (I know your working at it Mike:) Cant wait for WTTW to come out, also hope too see the CD's painted soon. Kinda funny how DT makes a lot of reference to eyes/sight and how the references relate to each other and also between songs as a whole.
Matt Stanich
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 15:34:28 -0700 From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: SB question-answered Message-ID: <s4d73832.040@IOMEGA.COM>
> Also received SB's new one, Kindness of Strangers. This is >excellent stuff, every bit as good as the two previous ones. Anybody >who doesn't have something by them is really missing out. The >musicianship is as good as DT but these guys are on the opposite end >of the prog scale. I still think Neal Morse should be producing DT >albums. All of SB's stuff is produced near perfectly without being >over-produced or lacking anything. The bass is always clear and up >front without drowning out the subtelties these guys load their >albums with. This is a STRONG BUY ;>.
funny that you should mention the production of SB as being one of the strong selling points for the band..... because if there is anything that I would caution about with Spock's Beard it would have to be the production... the drums especially. The snare has no depth.. the cymbals sound like little splishes (ala Images and Words) and for some reason i can't explain the bass drum bothers me...
the reason why i mention this, and not just to complain... is that I was seriously wondering whether all the SB cds have that same "sound" or if they've tweaked it a little.. gotten a little more "lively" sound?
trains, bruce forst bforst@busprod.com
Bruce: It seems to me that the 2nd album, Beware of Darkness, does have a little more depth to it. This was the one album that I was thinking of when I posted earlier. I haven't had KOS too long so I havent' listened to it 'closely' yet. By that I mean on my 'big' stereo which picks out all the subtleties the other one that I usually listen to doesn't.
Wilmo
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 19:15:35 -0600 (CST) From: Todd <twwilso@students.uiuc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: mp3 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980203191525.26746C-100000@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu>
i have downloaded some mp3s and some of them have this garbled sound to it with lots of computer noices like beeps and stuff. does anyone know if i can fix this? is it a header problem or something? thanks.
todd
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 20:17:25 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YNM Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980203201724.006865f8@maila.wm.edu>
>Completely off topic I have to say that I find it ironic (to say the >least), that so many jammers (not me, however) dislike You Not Me in a way >I cannot imagine. Yet my friends who make fun of my musical tastes on a >daily basis actually like the song. One of them even said it was, >"Awesome." I don't know...I just find it weird that non-DT fans like a >DT song more than most DT fans.
>..Rob...
Hey, I love YNM! It's one of my fav songs off the new album.
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:42:25 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Portnoy on VOX Message-ID: <199802040142.RAA20730@gms.gmsnet.com>
Wanna hear Portnoy on vocals during Just Let Me Breath? I just added an mp3 from the recent Hartford, CT show on my page... heheh
-The Doc
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:45:33 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: SB question-answered Message-ID: <199802040145.RAA20797@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, BILL HUSTON said: > >Bruce: > It seems to me that the 2nd album, Beware >of Darkness, does have a little more depth >to it. This was the one album that I was >thinking of when I posted earlier. I haven't >had KOS too long so I havent' listened to it >'closely' yet. By that I mean on my 'big' >stereo which picks out all the subtleties >the other one that I usually listen to >doesn't.
In my opinion, the production/mastering of The Light, Beware of Darkness, sound like they were done on a tight budget, because honestly, they aren't very good at all, the dynamic range of both those discs are very lacking. They both lack a punch, but Beware is a little better. But needless to say, the music is incredible.
-The Doc
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 98 20:31:12 -0500 From: Jan-Michael Souter <jmsouter@airmail.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Howard Stern E! shows Message-ID: <m0xzuaE-0008AzE@mail.airmail.net>
>Anyone tape the first show, or planning to tape the second? My cable service is non-fiber optic, so I don't get the E! network. Thank you. > >Megadeth's Howard Stern birthday bash performance >and interview on E!'s Howard Stern TV Show > >Part 1 - *11pm (Est) tonight (2/2/98) >Features the performance of "Trust" > >Part 2 - *11pm(Est) Friday (2/6/98) >Features the performance of "Use The Man" >plus an interview
Yes... I have ALL of Howard's E! shows on tape back from when it started in '94 and I have the series before that which ran in '93 of just Howard and a celebrity guest one-on-one called the Howard Stern E! Interview Shows.
I'll fix ya up with copies of any shows you need, just lemme know.
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