YTSEJAM Digest 3549
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Trent Gardner on his new project (as seen on alt.music.dream-theater)
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
2) Re: Derek in Proview
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
3) W H E R E???
by "=?iso-8859-1?B?Q2FybG9zIFRhbelzIE1vc2nxbw==?=" <carlost@sanluis.podernet.com.mx>
4) Re: W H E R E???
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
5) CD Cases
by Uroborosss@aol.com
6) Re: CD Cases
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
7) DT interview
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
8) Dream Theater jam tapes
by Calvin6S@aol.com
9) UK tour.
by A P Longley <ap7032@qmw.ac.uk>
10) why do I get no answers?
by SchnippX@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 16:16:30 -0800
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Trent Gardner on his new project (as seen on alt.music.dream-theater)
Message-ID: <199802110016.QAA26559@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, "Jeremy C. Hallum" said:
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>Hello-
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>Just thought I would let everyone know what this project is.
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>I was hired to write a complete project for other players.After finishing all
>the songs and lyrics we hired Terry Bozzio and Billy Sheehan to finish out the
>basic tracks.
>There are simply amazing solos by John Petrucci and others.The project is
>unique in that, unlike others,the music was composed in advance.
>It can best be described as Magellan meets JP.
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>Trent Gardner
That would be the Age of Impact project.
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com #$%#$#$% _+_+_+_+ Unix, Internet, Intranet Engineering _+_+_+_+ [][][][] Dr. Mosh's Progressive Feast [][][][] #$@#$#@# http://progmetal.gmsnet.com @#$@##@$------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 18:00:17 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Derek in Proview Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980210175853.11579A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, andrew miller wrote:
> >i got the Winter issue of Proview, the Korg magazine, and it had a tidbit on >Derek in there. it was basically a plug for the Trinity ProX, talking about >how he likes his, etc etc. but here's the part i chuckled at: > >"Dream Theater is best known as a progressive rock band that has topped the >charts with hits such as "Pull Me Under" and "Lies"." >
"Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!" I can see DT covering Fleetwood Mac... suuuuuure! ^_^
That's beautiful, man... beautiful...
>-Andrew >subtlerage@subtlerage.com > > > >
--Matt
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:08:19 -0600 From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?Q2FybG9zIFRhbelzIE1vc2nxbw==?=" <carlost@sanluis.podernet.com.mx> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: W H E R E??? Message-ID: <01bd36a2$afb7c4a0$f70c24c8@slp1.slp1.telmex.net.mx>
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Where i Can FIND Dream Theater Themes? I have this DT CD's: When Day and dream unite, IAW, Awake, Live at the = Marquee, Live in London, ACOS, Falling Into Infinity, and Lie-single, = wich CD's i dont have to complete my collection???
Atte: Carlos T:
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:46:10 -0700 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: W H E R E??? Message-ID: <01bd36b0$5af21340$300d84d0@safelink.safelink.net>
Heheh. Funny thing the other day. A coworker came up to me and showed me a magnet he got somewhere that said Sacred Heart of Jesus Auto Club (yah, whatever) on it that had the Burning heart on barbed wire. heheh. Kinda weird. He wasn't even showing me cuz he doesn't know who DT is or nothin'.
I am answering to pneurotic newbies here:
>Where i Can FIND Dream Theater Themes?
http://www.hutman.com/dreg/news.html
There's a link to the theme I put together (yes, under my old, old guise of IbnzRG570). I don't even have this on my machine anymore I don't think. heheh. Silly of me. It's the DREG records page and stuff. Whiel you're there (shameless plug) check out the samples from some of the bands they represent. Good stuff.
I also forgot to mention in my redme.txt in there that the images used were created by the esteemed Chris Hailey who made some incredible DT digital artwork which has sadly disappeared into the folds of unresponsive URLs. :(
P.S. If you don't like cussing, don't download the theme, cuz I don't want your parents firebombing me.
>I have this DT CD's: When Day and dream unite, IAW, Awake, Live at the = >Marquee, Live in London, ACOS, Falling Into Infinity, and Lie-single, = >wich CD's i dont have to complete my collection???
Live in London? Is that an official release? Sounds like you've got everything but the Silent Man single and the Hollow Years single to me. At least in the legal area. heheh. And the Xmas CD's which I doubt will ever be forfeited unto anyone else. :)
An' turn that Mime shit off. heheh. KorgX3
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 01:06:42 EST From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CD Cases Message-ID: <383e4d3b.34e13ff4@aol.com>
The bottom line is this: no cd carrying-case can keep a disc as scratch-free as a jewel case. If you absolutely MUST own a case of some sort, I recommend NOT USING Case Logic products. No "envelope" format of carrying-case can keep cds in as good a condition as the ones that mimic jewel cases by utilizing central prongs that hold the discs in place and keep them elevated from the backing surface. Unfortunately those hard-shell central-prong cases usually only hold about ten discs.
But I repeat: stay away from Case Logic's "slide your cds into these convenient envelopes with backing paper made of soft sandpaper" compact disc wallets. Everything will get scratched to hell. Don't be tempted by the capacity to tote around 100 discs. Don't be tempted by a convenient built-in handle to carry the weight, or the smooth leather/koskin covering. Case Logic wallets will ruin everything, including your Spice Girls albums. If you can find that format of disc-holder WITHOUT any backing material, i.e. just a clear plastic Ziploc-bag looking thing for each disc, you're still better off than a Case Logic Spice-Girl-killing cd wallet.
Spice up your life,
Bafu Vai
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:55:09 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: CD Cases Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980210234917.1736A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 Uroborosss@aol.com wrote:
> > >But I repeat: stay away from Case Logic's "slide your cds into these >convenient envelopes with backing paper made of soft sandpaper" compact disc >wallets. Everything will get scratched to hell. Don't be tempted by the
This only happens if you're so stupid as to just slide in a CD without giving it even a cursory cleaning (a light rub against a cotton surface). I've had two carrying cases, one was a Case Logic, the other was not, and had your "better" option: a plastic-on-both-sides pouch. Verdict? At least the Case Logic caught the dust and trapped it in a little "pocket" away from the CD surface, while the zipLoc bag gathered dirt, dust, pebbles (!), and all sorts of various shit. *that* case was the one that scratched my discs to hell. If you're not a complete slob, the Case Logic cases will do just fine. Except on your Spice Girls CDs -- they have something against those ^_^
>capacity to tote around 100 discs. Don't be tempted by a convenient built-in >handle to carry the weight, or the smooth leather/koskin covering. Case Logic >wallets will ruin everything, including your Spice Girls albums. If you can >find that format of disc-holder WITHOUT any backing material, i.e. just a >clear plastic Ziploc-bag looking thing for each disc, you're still better off >than a Case Logic Spice-Girl-killing cd wallet. >
Again, I reitterate -- Bafu may have a small point, but in general you'd have to continually put discs in, take them out, turn them in nice circles to make sure they're all facing up, and generally abuse the discs within the case. Bafu must just be one of those people who can't stop touching his Spice Girls CD (wonder why?)
>Spice up your life, > >Bafu Vai > >
--Matt (happy owner of 2 Case Logic 100-CD carriers -- a *HELLUVA* lot lighter and easier than luggin my whole CD collection between Portland and Eugene every term...)
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 09:56:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT interview Message-ID: <Marcel-1.41-0211095630-b49rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>
Here's the first part of Nikki Brooks's recent DT interview.
INTERVIEW AND REVIEW HARD ROXX MAGAZINE, JANUARY 1998, BY NIKKI BROOKS ********************************************************** Dream Theater Interview The Forum London UK, Tuesday 9th December 1997 By Nikki Brooks I've been avidly following Dream Theater since I first saw them play the London Marquee in April 1993. In fact, I've been to every gig they've played here, except the Ronnie Scott's one in 1995. It's not every day a girl gets to interview her favourite band. So, with "A lump in my throat the size of a boulder" and my knees shaking I joined up with MATTHEW HONEY to talk to the band just prior to their one and only UK show. MH: It has been a long time since the last album was released, what has been happening? JM: There have been a lot of deaths in our families and we had to take time out to deal with it. In addition John Petrucci, Mike Portnoy and James la Brie all had children so a lot of different things happened and we needed time to get our personal lives in order. We also took our time writing; one and a half years, and came up with two and a half hours of music/ MH: The experience of death seems to have had more of an effect than birth on the song writing. JM: I guess it is how you look at it, some of the songs go in positive directions but it takes a while for these emotions to filter through. As we were writing there was a lot of stress from our business and personal life. MH: I think the new album surprised a lot of people in the direction it took; some fans are accusing you of moving away from your progressive roots. JM: I think we are finding a better way to balance the more self indulgent playing and strong song writing with strong melodic content. I think this record is our most groove and feel orientated album so far. N: How are sales going? JM: Sales are taking off, the album is exploding everywhere. We're in the charts in areas that we never thought we would be like Italy, Holland, Germany, Finland. DS: Actually, in Finland, they are putting each band member on a coin to celebrate the release of "Falling into Infinity" and we're very excited about that. JM: So we're doing really well. N: So what was it like writing with a new keyboard player, after the departure of long time bandmate Kevin Moore? JM: It's been an experience, a wonderful experience. Finding out Derek's creative side and how he interacts with us musically and in finding out what the synergy is between us. It was a great learning experience and he brought a lot to the album. N: Were you worried how it would turn out? DS: (Smiling) Was I worried? I mean are you asking me? Ask him (points at JM). I wasn't worried! JM: Well you always are a bit. You don't really know what it's going to be like until you hear it. But it's been great, we spent a year and a half working with each other and finding out what we do, in learning how to work with each other. As we started writing, the first song we wrote was "Lines in the Sand" which, after we wrote that it was like yeah, Derek is great and that was it. Lines in the Sand, the first song we wrote with Derek. N: Did you have classical piano lessons? DS: I did when I was younger but I haven't studied classical for about 10-15 years. I've always loved classical music and it's a big part of my training and at times it comes out. But I think on Lines in the Sand there's a lot more jazz blues influence ... N: And fusion? DS: Yeah fusion. That's where my heart is more than in classical. N: You've been with a lot of bands as the "Off Stage" kb player. Can you give me a list please? DS: What bands have off-stage kb? Well Kiss used to (laughter). I think Ozzy has one, Alice Cooper too. I don't really keep track. A lot of the big guitar bands of the 80s would have them, like guys playing samples or whatever. That was cool, but I wouldn't want to do anything like that again. N: John, how did you get that chunky bass sound on the new album? It seems better than any I've heard on previous albums. JM: Two words, ladies and gentlemen, Kevin Shirley. Kevin was great, he got all the performances that he needed out of us and he really worked with me on the bass tone. DS: And also I think the Yamaha "John Myung" model 6-string bass is a big part of the sound. JM: Yeah, there's been a new synergistic relationship between me and Yamaha, where I'm co-designing instruments with them and I have a JM signature six-string which should be out on the market sometime in the summer. I think it's gonna do really well because it fills a void that's in the market right now, as far as six-strings go, where most of them are made by smaller companies that charge exorbitant fees. So this one, with Yamaha's strong pricing point on it, should do quite well. N: Most of the six-string basses I've picked up at music fairs and in music shops weigh an absolute ton. Do you have a special lightweight model or do you just work out a lot? JM: Yes, the signature model was definitely designed around my physical limitations (eg., the size of my hands) and the weight was a consideration as well ... DS: Also the 100 push-ups you're doing each day has gotta help. JM: (Laughing) Yeah and the 100 push-ups too. N: Have you ever tried a Chapman Stick (CS) with 10 strings? DS: Do the voice ... JM: (Putting on a silly voice) Perhaps you've been reading the bio? JM: Yes, during the year and a half that we had off I started playing CS because it was an instrument I really appreciated through musicians like Peter Gabriel, who always found ways to incorporate it. I found it really intriguing and I wanted to bring something to the album that hasn't been there before, so I approached the CS with a bassplayer's mindset, playing more functional rhythms and supportive things that you would find a bp doing, but with the CS. N: Derek did you write any of the keyboard parts to "A Change of Seasons" which you recorded with the band? DS: Yeah I wote some of them. That song was reworked quite a bit from its original so I got to go in there and really "do it". Although I didn't write a lot of it, I got the chance to put my personality and my own sounds into "A Change of Seasons". N: John, you also mentioned Kevin Shirley as being a different producer for the band. I would say that the production on "Falling into Infinity" is the best I've heard for the band. Would you agree with that? JM: Absolutely. Kevin was able to bring something that our other producers haven't been able to, which is capture the live aura of the band. The energy that you see at a Dream Theater show is part of the listening experience on this album. N: OK now onto the website (http://www.rsabbs.com/dt/index.html), who does it and how did it come about? JM: Well, our fans have become really involved on a global scale and a lot of them are taking initiatives to start fan clubs and things like that, which is great. But now it's starting to get a bit chaotic so I think we're gonna have to find a way to streamline the information and to upgrade our existing site so that it's more efficiently maintained. N: That leads me onto the Ytse Jammers' (pronounced Yitsay) e-mail list which goes out as a digest several times a day. I noticed that Mike actually writes to one of the guys on the list who transmits his comments to the digest. Do any of you have-e-mail or internet access at home? JM: Yes we do. I carry an IBM 365 XD laptop with me and I go online at hotels that are equipped and keep up with the e-mail and world news. N: So you're coming back to do a full European tour in February/March? Will you be doing more than one date in the UK? JM: I don't really know yet. DS: I think we're coming back here in April. (Actually, James La Brie answered this one in more detail at the end of the gig when he said they would be back in the UK for some dates during the European tour between Feb/April 1998). N: Any material demoed up for the next album and when can we expect it out? JM: Well being that this tour is about 6 weeks old, I think we're gonna need a little more time to be creative. DS: Yeah, we just started with the tour so we're not even in that head. We have different "head spaces", there's the writing head, the recording head and the performing head. Right now we're knee-deep in the performing head. **************************************************** Part 2 will follow soon.
Graham
-- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:33:46 EST From: Calvin6S@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theater jam tapes Message-ID: <1dfbb870.34e18c9c@aol.com>
About two years ago, I took my computer, MIDI software, Roland R-5 Drum Machine, Roland JV-880 Synth, and varios effects and mixers and decided to lay down drums, bass, and keys to all the songs from the Dream Theater albums:
1 - WDADU 2 - IAW 3 - Awake
I also have full drum, keys, bass, AND GUITAR, to these three albums (except "The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun"). The arrangements are about 80% complete (drums and bass for all, some lacking keys), but with enough interest I would finish the rest. I would also consider doing "A Change of Seasons" (song, not album), and the new album, FII.
These make great guitar jam tapes (vocalist would probably like it also). I can't tell you the benefits of practicing to a band arrangement that never makes mistakes. The benefits are much greater than playing to the album. You don't have the crutch of Petrucci's recorded guitar filling in the holes you leave!!! You can also do your own solos and fills without clashing with the original recording. I consider this better than any lessons you could possibly do. If you can nail Dream Theater songs, you can nail just about anything out there. It's also more fun than lessons because you already enjoy the music!
I'm don't want to piss anybody off with the salesman talk, so I'll leave it at this:
1) Email me at calvin6S@aol.com (how do you make that a link, I just started to go on the net 3-4 days ago). 2) If I get enough interest, I will prepare the tapes and I will email you back with possible reimbursement for a) tape costs (MiniDisc a possibility), b) shipping costs, c) small compensation for my time of recording (I am just a regular Joe. I don't have a printing press at my disposal!) 3) If I get an overwhelming response, I will consider taking it to a printing press to put on CD.
Once again, I am not trying to make a fortune off this (although that would be nice). I just want to make sure I don't lose money doing it. I've received decent reviews via word of mouth so far.
If there are any copyright infringements here, I will cease the whole project. If a band member emails me with thiis complaint, I will apologize and stop the whole project.
Thanks
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:12:26 +0000 From: A P Longley <ap7032@qmw.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: UK tour. Message-ID: <240AE4C1DC3@qmwcc5.qmw.ac.uk>
Hey,
Is anyone planning on going to all 4 UK dates? It's over the Easter hols, so I and two friends are going to go on a 6 day DT holiday. If anyone is thinking of doing the same, I have all the details for train prices and times along the route. I can pass this on to you, or you'd be welcome to join us - the more the merrier. The cheapest possible train fare for the round trip from London is 75 quid (with young person's railcard). Add 5 nights B&B ( 50 - 70 quid), the ticket prices and a few kebabs etc and total cost will be around 200 pounds + beer. Let me know, Adrian.
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:24:46 EST From: SchnippX@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: why do I get no answers? Message-ID: <729e4093.34e19891@aol.com>
hi again, are you just skipping my questions or what? Maybe I'll start w/another question that came up.
Anybody who does DT belt buckles w/the Majesty symbol we all know on it?
Somehow I can't reach my old e-mails, so could somebody please mail me the address of the John Myung interview?
Speaking of John, I just got the Instructing videos of John and Mike and although I play neither bass nor drums I guess I would not recommend them. Nevertheless it's really funny how John starts off:"Hi, I'm John Myung, I play bass guitar in a band called Dream THeater and I just want to explain the tuniong of a 6-string bass guitar" Then he plays scales, no, he introduces his scales - for quite a while: 14 patterns of 4 scales... Mike just talks about arithmetic...
Next, the FII disc you saw for 39.95 DM contains the mini disc if it is the JapImport. Maybe you could get one for me too, since in Hamburg it is 46.95 DM and you live in Germany too, right?
Still nobody interested in Savatages Wake of Magellan. Hey - shipping would be about a week...
Question to native speakers The name of the band King's X: Is it pronounced King's "axe" or King's "cross" I know people ho do it one way and other do it the other. I always did it like King's X (HAHAHAHA), King's axe and I hope that's right.
Last one: I'm doing a term paper on wah-wah in rock music, I guess starting at 1985 or so. If somebody thinks he has a perfect exsample for that, please mail me
that's is my bottom line, and indeed I said so, but don't we all
schnippX
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