YTSEJAM Digest 3469
Today's Topics:
1) Hi all.
by Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com>
2) bass solos
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
3) 3462
by "Woolcock" <woolcock@pl.camtech.net.au>
4) Hollow Years Video
by Coop42 <Coop42@aol.com>
5) DALE R. NEWBERRY - Mail me please.
by bj reurich <breuric@acenet.com.au>
6) Re: Echolyn/CD Treasures
by Gonzo1298 <Gonzo1298@aol.com>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3467
by Angellaa <Angellaa@aol.com>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3468
by Angellaa <Angellaa@aol.com>
9) Warblings on The Big Medley.
by "CP Parnham" <C.P.Parnham-97@student.lboro.ac.uk>
10) Trimming
by Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
11) Atlanta
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
12) Re: Holy birthday, batman!
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
13) Progressive Rock/Metal CDs for swap/sale, now soundclips available!
by Erik Gorissen <egorissen@online-club.de>
14) Re: Birthdays, Synopses, Weather
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
15) Re: bass solos
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
16) FYS
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
17) Re: Fates...
by Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com>
18) Drummer joke
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
19) Re: Warblings on The Big Medley.
by Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com>
20) Re: Echolyn
by they cover you in flowers when they bury you <afn39111@afn.org>
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:38:43 -0700
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hi all.
Message-ID: <34C07C23.4C@goodnet.com>
New update on the web page later tonight, around about midnight (the
last possible second, naturally) for those interested. Material
contained within includes final tracklistings for Tori and Queensryche
material, as well as lots of stars for Precious Things CD buyers
specifically.
I took Melissa to see "Good Will Hunting" earlier tonight, and what an
amazingly intense movie that was. Hands down the best movie of 1998...
so far. :) Robin Williams is perfect, an old pro at these roles it
seems, and Ben Affleck of Mallrats and Chasing Amy fame steals the show
as the loyal friend who shows main character Matt Damon the big picture
and why he has to find his way in life. This movie, moreso even than
Chasing Amy, pumps me up for this summer's "Dogma", the 4th Kevin Smith
movie with Damon and Affleck starring alongside Chris Rock.
-- - Mike Bahr / Prism Records - durnik @ goodnet . com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/------------------------------
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 05:24:58 -0500 From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: bass solos Message-ID: <v0153050db0e636150b05@[209.50.100.115]>
>>I've *never* heard a rock song that has a >>bass solo that still sounds 'full' when the bassist is soloing.
Ever heard YYZ?
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:51:11 +1030 From: "Woolcock" <woolcock@pl.camtech.net.au> To: "YtseJam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: 3462 Message-ID: <199801171227.WAA05641@goliath.camtech.com.au>
Did anyone else miss out on digest 3462? How do I access the archives?
Also, does anyone know where I can get a really good multi-track mixing program? I want something I can use to record the 'line in' on my sound card, and overlay it multiple times, so I can play about 4 different parts on guitar and mix them perfectly, adding in keyboard and synthesized drums.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shane Woolcock - woolcock@pl.camtech.net.au WWW - http://rampage.ml.org/sector1/~samah/ "Lifting shadows off a Dream once broken She can turn a drop of water into an ocean" - DT ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:10:50 EST From: Coop42 <Coop42@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hollow Years Video Message-ID: <fe93f84.34c0addc@aol.com>
Hi everybody, haven't seen it mentioned, so I will: The Hollow Years video was aired on the latest 'Metalla' show (on the German VIVA channel). It looks like most music videos look these days, so there might be a chance that some stations might actually show it more frequently. You don't see that much of the band, though (don't know if that's a good or a bad thing ;-) ).
Take Care, Andreas Berger
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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:25:21 +1100 From: bj reurich <breuric@acenet.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DALE R. NEWBERRY - Mail me please. Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980118002521.0077ae80@acenet.com.au>
Sorry to post this here, but your mail seems to be bouncing again.
I've been trying to get in contact about the Saviour Machine video we discussed.
Thanks, Thats All, Zajk [ breuric@acenet.com.au ]
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:26:54 EST From: Gonzo1298 <Gonzo1298@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Echolyn/CD Treasures Message-ID: <4eb9bf95.34c0bfb0@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-15 23:51:29 EST, you write:
<< My question is this: would anybody who has the cabability be >willing to make a CD-R of the Pre-As teh World Echolyn disks? There was a place that was selling copies of "Suffocating the Bloom", which is where I got my copy. I think they were called "CD Treasures". Can someone on the Jam help me out here? As for the others, Syrinx might be able to help. He was very close to the band. >>
CD Treasures did have quite a few copies but I think they're out of them now. They've changed owners and have a web site full of great music often referenced on the Jam.
http://www.collect.com/cdtreasures
Gonzo
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:39:46 EST From: Angellaa <Angellaa@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3467 Message-ID: <35070117.34c0c2b4@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-16 19:16:28 EST, you write:
<< I've been a member of this list for, say, one year (I don't remember exactly) and I have never seen 100% pure Dream Theater content and I'm very happy to know that the list has a lot of off-topic messages, since they bring diversity to the subjects and this diversity may spawn some never-before-thought-of Dream Theater connections and some very comic posts. At least, even off-topic, the people of this list is intelligent enough to make some interesting comments about some bullshit, often with a bit of humor. >> well i'm sorry. didn't mean to piss any one off. i was just trying to be i guess helpful but since you have had this for a year now you already knew about that. well in any case sorry but i still think we should stick to dt
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:56:10 EST From: Angellaa <Angellaa@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3468 Message-ID: <6e60311a.34c0c68c@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-17 03:35:27 EST, you write:
<< I wouldn't go buying it just because Kev plays the keys. He didn't write the music to it. When they played in concert Jason played the keys and it sounded the same as "Kevin's version". Kevin and Jason both were nothing more than the technicians who executed the material rather than the creative idea behiond it. Btw Kev played on Perfect Symmetry as well. >> i'm not going to buy it just cause of kev. if you had read my whole post you would have saw that i have heard from several friends that thier music is good (fates) and i wanted some other peoples opinion's on the matter.i heard from a good friend that if i like dt i'd really like fates. i know he didn't write the music some guy named jim matheos did so at any note i was just writing this to get some people's opinion's. Angella
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:14:13 +0000 From: "CP Parnham" <C.P.Parnham-97@student.lboro.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Warblings on The Big Medley. Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980117151413.00924930@student-mailin.lboro.ac.uk>
Hello Jammers! This is my first message as I've only been subscribed for a few days, but I'm getting the hang of it. Anyway, I've read the detailed FAQ on DT but I can't seem to find out what James shouts between the first and second songs on The Big Medley. It starts with "Lights!" and then it's difficult to hear. Can anyone help me out? Or did I miss it on the FAQ? Also, to the guy who said LTL is the best DT song ever, I wish I had your ability to pick a favourite. To me they're all amazing. Chris
_____________________________________________________________________________ This is my signature for now:
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:29:46 -0500 (EST) From: Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Trimming Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95q.980117102356.21134A-100000@laurent.math.uwaterloo.ca>
> Look at LTL - one of the coolest songs on I&W - thank god that there > were no 'subtractions' from this.
Actually, they trimmed the extended instrumental outro on LTL. LTL is still my favourite song of all time as it is on I&W, but with the extended outtro, it comes as close to a PERFECT composition as I think you can get! Every time I hear that version, I have this urge to scream out "HOLY FUCKING SHIT!". :)
But I think Shirley screwed up majorly. Instead of trimming the fat, he trimmed the phat! :)
** Lars Hellsten (lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca) **
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:52:36 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: Atlanta Message-ID: <199801171552.KAA26736@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, I just found out yesterday that I am goingto Atlanta on Tues evening through Fri for business... not sure what my free time will be like, but if any Atlanta area jammers are possibly interested in getting together, let me know... (again, I have no clue as to how much time I'll have available).. also, anywhere that I should definatly try to make it to while down there?
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:41:03 PST From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Holy birthday, batman! Message-ID: <19980117174103.25299.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Well, you were born closer to Jesus than the original poster. Remember, = >according to _historical_ evidence, the big J-man was born on or about = >September 19, at sunset. The whole December 25th thing was invented by = >a pope a few hundred years ago to get people celebrating a _christian_ = >holiday in mid-winter instead of the old, pagan winter solstice = >celebration called Yule. So, they invented Christmas. > > ~Chris (who was born on Dec 22nd, the actual solstice. :) > Okay, time to throw my hat into the ring. :-)
I am a Mormon, and we believe that Jesus Christ was born on April 6.(What time on April 6, I have no idea.) It was for that reason, and the date of his death and resurrection being around the same time, that we believe God revealed to Joseph Smith that the church should be organized on April 6, 1830.
However, there is significance to December 25. That is the day that the wise men came to visit the Christ child. That is why we celebrate his birth on December 25.
Just so you know. :-)
BTW-I was born on May 30-Memorial day!(Appropriate for the son of a naval officer, and the grandson of both an army officer and a naval officer! :-) )
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 19:30:39 +0100 From: Erik Gorissen <egorissen@online-club.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Progressive Rock/Metal CDs for swap/sale, now soundclips available! Message-ID: <199801171831.TAA18330@clubserv.rp-online.de>
Hi there fellow proggers!
Since I posted last about my for-sale CD list I got some pleads if it would be possible to add some sound samples to the lesser known items. Well, it's done - I've established MP3 sound samples for about 50% of the CDs I offer.
So everybody who is into progressive rock/metal may want to have another look at my list of CDs that are for sale/swap. It's a large part of my private CD collection and contains CDs from seventies Art Rock, eighties and nineties progressive rock, progressive metal and more. If you are interested in swapping/buying CDs, just send me your lists. Here is where you can find mine:
Greetings, Erik Gorissen
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:45:03 -0800 From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Birthdays, Synopses, Weather Message-ID: <34C0FC2E.500@pacbell.net>
Uroborosss wrote: > > > From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu> > > Subject: NDTC and proud > > > > Yeah, arent those moments great? Im an avid golfer and I learned about a > > year ago that I share my birthdate with Tiger Woods > > > > I am Tiger Woods. > > I'm an avid guitar player and I learned a few years ago that I share my > birthdate with Steve Vai. > > I am Steve Vai. > > NOT!!! > > Okay, everyone follow along. Pat sent Al some stuff. Al never sent Pat any > stuff. Al will never send Pat any stuff. Pat will never understand that he is > never going to get any stuff from Al. Ben annoyed Charlie. Charlie got mad at > Ben. Ben never read any of Charlie's replies because Ben isn't subscribed to > this mailing list. Charlie will never really know if Ben fantasizes about him. > Mike Bahr makes more money per bootleg disc sold than Derek Sherinian makes > per Dream Theater album sold. Chris Ptacek not make bootleg or album. Chris > make trouble. Chris no like Mike. Mike no like Chris. Ben want orgy with Mike > and Chris and Charlie and Al and Pat. Ben no want get near Derek Sherinian. > > Tomorrow's weather forecast: Thunder. Lightning. Minnie Driver. HARD RAIN. (I > know, it would have been cool to have worked "warm front" or "high-pressure > system" or stuff about "moisture" into the forecast, but then I'd be just > another Lexus Texas Sexist Pig. Oink oink.) > > Dream Theater RULES!!! Where can I find a transcription for the twin-solo > passage in "Just Let Me Breathe" or do I have to transcribe the f'ing thing > myself?!?! > > Bafu Vai
Once again..the man speaks!!!!!! Well done Bafu...WEll Done!...but I perfer my steaks medium rare! (humor alert)
Anyway...hope this little tiff is over with....there was soooo much to delete my finger is sore! -- Hearts away.......
Coldfire coldfire@pacbell.net ICQ: 4656934 http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/haight/25
"And all this could be just a dream so it seems, I was never much good at good-bye."
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:50:45 -0800 From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: bass solos Message-ID: <34C0FD85.1120@pacbell.net>
Jeff Keifling wrote: > > >>I've *never* heard a rock song that has a > >>bass solo that still sounds 'full' when the bassist is soloing. > > Ever heard YYZ?
Try anything by Mr.Big of their first CD! Billy Sheehan shreds! -- Hearts away.......
Coldfire coldfire@pacbell.net ICQ: 4656934 http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/haight/25
"And all this could be just a dream so it seems, I was never much good at good-bye."
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:07:01 -0500 From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FYS Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980117140701.006b6078@postoffice.ptd.net>
Hey 'jammrz. Just finished listening to the "Fasten Your Seatbelts" version of Ytsejam (thanx Bogie), and it's pretty cool! Looking forward to actually hearing that live someday . . .
cArPe DiEm, bRiAn
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:17:09 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Fates... Message-ID: <34C103B5.5E492740@goodnet.com>
Angellaa wrote: > > i'm not going to buy it just cause of kev. > good friend that if i like dt i'd really like fates. i know he didn't write > the music some guy named jim matheos did so at any note i was just writing > this to get some people's opinion's. You can listen to some short audio clips of APSoG on my web site, go right to http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer/fw/a_apsog.htm It is tough to judge this song (all 55 minutes) based on a few short samples, but these should give you an idea of what type of music you can expect. Also, this album definately needs a little bit of time to sink in, I have found that after several listens the pieces all fall together and from there it just gets better and better to listen to.
-- ~Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com> <ICQ # 2070538> Home Page / AZ Concerts Mailing List - http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream - http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer/fw Dream Theater "Unofficial" Song Book - http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer/dt ~Sola sapientia est qui me in merda posuit~
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:21:48 -0500 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Drummer joke Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980117142145.006881ec@pop.ici.net>
A little humor, to add a little levity to a rapidly morbidizing list. And yes, I do know that "morbidizing" isn't really a word.
This joke came from the Joke-A-Day mailing list/website. I encourage everyone to check it out at http://www.jokeaday.com
Oh, and apologies in advance to all the drummers on the list. :)
---------------------------------------------------------------- >A drummer, tired from being ridiculed by his peers, decides to >learn how to play some "real" musical instruments. He goes to >a music store, walks in, approaches the store clerk, and says >"I'll take that red trumpet over there and that accordion." The >store clerk looks at him a bit funny, and replies "OK, you can >have the fire extinguisher but the radiator's got to stay". ----------------------------------------------------------------
_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________ E-Mail: psull@ici.net WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator ICQ: 2049374 ______________________________________________________ It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere.
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:21:28 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Warblings on The Big Medley. Message-ID: <34C104B8.84311550@goodnet.com>
CP Parnham wrote: > > FAQ on DT but I can't seem to find out what James shouts between the first > and second songs on The Big Medley. It starts with "Lights!" and then it's > difficult to hear. Can anyone help me out? Well, this is pretty hard to hear, but it is part of Pink Floyd's "In The Flesh"... I don't have all of the stuff James is screaming in the song book, but as much as anybody has been able to figure out so far... Go to http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer/dt
BTW, is D-man still around here?
~Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com> <ICQ # 2070538> Home Page / AZ Concerts Mailing List - http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream - http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer/fw Dream Theater "Unofficial" Song Book - http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer/dt ~Sola sapientia est qui me in merda posuit~
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:34:25 -0500 (EST) From: they cover you in flowers when they bury you <afn39111@afn.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Echolyn Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.980117163231.138887B-100000@freenet2.afn.org>
> i'm not selling them) but was asked by Chris and Brett not to. If you're > going to make CD-R's, then you better be prepared to send the boys in > echolyn some major cash - not to mention what Sony would do if they ever > found out. > > They *have* agreed that if you do want the albums, there are > people (like myself) who are more than happy to tape them for you. > please: do NOT make CD's of these. You have *no* idea what about of > repercussions will be apon you.
Wow. I had a lot of respect for the guys in Echolyn, until now.
-=- "I'm me, it's true, shut the fuck up." -- Bill Hicks
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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