YTSEJAM Digest 3476
Today's Topics:
1)
by Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3475
by skooc@earthlink.net
3) Re: Emotion in DT songs
by Brian <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
4) Re: Raise the Knife
by "Antoni Krasinski" <kran@ichf.edu.pl>
5) Met II and the five "leftovers"
by Brian <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
6) DT Dates
by "Colonel Mustard" <cmustard@netdot.com>
7) Re: Met II and the five "leftovers"
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
8) DEMOS from Jap FII and HY single
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
9) Hells Kitchen Bass Tab
by Sunnyde25 <Sunnyde25@aol.com>
10) Where did she go?
by Mark Johnson <sparkus@erols.com>
11) FS: Enchant CD (NDTC)
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
12) Metropolis Pt. II
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
13) analog vs digital
by they cover you in flowers when they bury you <afn39111@afn.org>
14) GENESIS????
by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
15) dt stuff for grabs
by filth <ripzero@inlink.com>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3473
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
17) Echolyn stuff again...
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
18) Portnoy Video
by Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu>
19) Thanks to those who helped on the Queen CD
by JE78674@ltu.edu
20) Re: GENESIS????
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
21) Hi again everyone!
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:05:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <19980120000557.3273.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com>
from Roger and Mathew Tedesco:
>>music. They even played a long Yes song (I think it has almost 20
minutes)
>>called "Gates of Dellirium" (is this correct???) and the DJ said
it was
>>from an album called "Relayer". Well, they also played a song called
>yes, roger, the album is "relayer," the song is "gates of
delirium," and
>you should go out and buy it promptly. (this goes for everyone,
>especially the prog-oriented folks.) while your at it, pick up
"close
>to the edge," "fragile," and "the yes album."
Yes, yes. The first CD you should buy from the most positive band in
the world is Yessongs. This is a live album that was originally a
triple LP. The line up is the ideal. Both Alan White and Bill
Brufford get to play here-impeccably of course (not simultaneously
though) and Steve Howe, Rick Wakeman and Chris Squire kick royal
ass, whilst Jon Anderson is simply perfect. I began listening to
this album when I was 7 (now I'm 31) and all I can say is that TO
ME, this is the best live recording EVER.
Bye
BP
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:47:26 -0800 (PST)
From: skooc@earthlink.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3475
Message-ID: <199801200047.QAA08590@iceland.it.earthlink.net>
>> Is it me or does Marillion seem to have this true MAGIC quality about
>> them???
That should say Marillion DID have a magic quality about them, then
Steve Hogarth joined the band. ;-)
>>> I bought the "Six Of One, Half A Dozen Of The Other" CD a few days ago
Had this, then figured out that instead of buying that it would be better
to just buy all the Fish era stuff because that's the REAL Marillion
anyway.
>>Also, to the guy who said LTL is the best DT song ever, I wish I had your
>>ability to pick a favourite. To me they're all amazing.
Well, to say that they're ALL amazing is stretching it a bit. DT has some
of the coolest songs I've ever heard, but they also have some of the lamest.
(Lamest omitted to save from the fans of those songs whining about how it's
their favorite)
>And you probably wont find a more religious DT fan than me, so dont even
>start arguing : )
"Religion tends to fuck people up." - Roger Taylor of Queen
>So is Neil Elliott selling boots on the UK market ?
>Anyone here dealt with him ?
>Neil, can you let us UK jammer know what boots you have
>available ?
Doesn't Neil run the DTOIFC? Since the DT club is "Officisl" it seems to
me this may leave DT open to lawsuits from Rush since Neil is associated
with Dream Theater. Something he should think about.
NEVER BUY CD'S FROM MIKE BAHR!!!
>> > no matter how you slice it, ANY reproduction of these albums ia
>> > violation of copywrite laws (you can talk to mike bahr about that...).
>> > Echolyn, in all honestly, has no juristiction. Sony owns the albums.
That may be, but echolyn wrote the songs and they own the rights to that.
So echolyn ARE losing money from bootlegging. I'm not saying bootlegs are bad,
That's Chris Ptacek's job. ;-)
Scott
"Facts are stupid things." Ronald Reagan
"Once it's a mistake, twice is Jazz." Frank Zappa
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Twas the night before Christmas and all through the theater
Not a creature was stirring, except for my peter.
Beavis; from Saturday Night Live, Dec 1996
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:05:26 -0500
From: Brian <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Emotion in DT songs
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980119200526.006f6a58@postoffice.ptd.net>
At 04:18 PM 1/19/98 -0800, Jon wrote about what's for dinner:
>And you probably wont find a more religious DT fan than me, so dont even
>start arguing : )
No arguments here, but what about ACOS? Especially from "Carpe Diem" on?
How about that solo in AD? Or the very emotionally uplifting instrumental
section in TTT? I can find emotion in almost every DT song on every album,
minus MOST of WDADU and FII. That's why I listen to DT so much, no other
band has emotionally impacted or enhanced my life as much as they have.
And then, they also have amazing technique, sick riffs, great atmosphere,
etc.
>I missed two exits on the freeway yesterday because I got so caught up with
>LiTS, specifically the middle solo section.
I hear *that*, man.
>Jon
cArPe DiEm,
bRiAn
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:08:42 +0100
From: "Antoni Krasinski" <kran@ichf.edu.pl>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Raise the Knife
Message-ID: <15BEE0128A9@alfa.ichf.edu.pl>
> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:59:30 +0100
> From: Seroussi <seroussi@algonet.se>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: Some DTC!
> Message-ID: <34C39481.723BA94@algonet.se>
>
>
> Is it my imagination or the 7:12-7:40 segment in Raise the Knife .ra file
that's
> floating around sounds a bit like Ytsejam (or some other WDADU song)?
I can't hear WDADU there, but the 9:36-9:46 part sounds like A Crack in the
Mirror to me.
> Why the hell is that song not on FII?
Yeah, why the hell is that song not on FII? I hope they will release the
demo somehow.
Antoni Krasinski kran@ichf.edu.pl
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:19:52 -0500
From: Brian <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Met II and the five "leftovers"
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980119201952.006f4100@postoffice.ptd.net>
Ok, this is a shot in the dark, but . . . .
We all REALLY WANT TO HEAR MET II ASAP, right? And those of us that
haven't heard RTK, CME, STM, TWIUTB, and [what was the 5th one?] would
probably like to hear them soon, too? Now, if Met II is included on the
next album, that's 30 somewhat minutes less of *fresh* material that the
band could put on the disc. Whereas since they've already written MII and
the other 5 songs, they could put out a good 60-minute-long batch of stuff
in one shot sooner, then follow up with another 75er later.
Well . . .
There was a petition for ACOS, right?
Discuss if you will.
cArPe DiEm,
bRiAn
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:28:15 -0600
From: "Colonel Mustard" <cmustard@netdot.com>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT Dates
Message-ID: <01bd2542$ae1198e0$19e25ed1@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
Does anyone know when more DT dates will be posted on the
FAQ? Thanks-
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:45:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Met II and the five "leftovers"
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980119174240.17360A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Brian wrote:
>
>Ok, this is a shot in the dark, but . . . .
>
>We all REALLY WANT TO HEAR MET II ASAP, right? And those of us that
>haven't heard RTK, CME, STM, TWIUTB, and [what was the 5th one?] would
>probably like to hear them soon, too? Now, if Met II is included on the
>next album, that's 30 somewhat minutes less of *fresh* material that the
>band could put on the disc. Whereas since they've already written MII and
>the other 5 songs, they could put out a good 60-minute-long batch of stuff
>in one shot sooner, then follow up with another 75er later.
Yeah, and at 60 minutes, it could easily be called an album... ^_^
To me, the only difference between ACOS being an EP and an album was the
live section. If the same amount of time had been filled with studio
recordings, it could have easily passed for or become an album.
So, perhaps this is what Mike is talking about when he says, "the next
album." If there's 60 minutes worth of unheard studio material, then why
not make it an album? Both WDADU and I&W were around 60 minutes, IIRC.
>
>Well . . .
>There was a petition for ACOS, right?
>Discuss if you will.
>
>cArPe DiEm,
>bRiAn
>
--Matt
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"..." --James LaBrie, "Hell's Kitchen"
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:03:49 -0800
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DEMOS from Jap FII and HY single
Message-ID: <199801200203.SAA14939@gms.gmsnet.com>
If you're having a hard time finding the Japanese FII or Hollow Years single
and wanna hear it in mp3... go to my URL below... in the Ear Candy section.
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:26:29 EST From: Sunnyde25 <Sunnyde25@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hells Kitchen Bass Tab Message-ID: <4ebf4fba.34c40b63@aol.com>
If anyone is interested in the bass tab for Hell's Kitchen, I just finished it and put it up at http://members.aol.com/Sunnyde25/music.htm
Mark
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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:28:00 -0800 From: Mark Johnson <sparkus@erols.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Where did she go? Message-ID: <34C2E45F.B9619919@erols.com>
Hey buds! Can anyone tell me if they know the name of that girl who was at Jaxx in Springfield, Virginia in January when DT played? The beautiful girl who was trying to get up front and made it?
Man, please, if anyone has any info!????!!!
Mark
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:13:07 -0500 (EST) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FS: Enchant CD (NDTC) Message-ID: <v01520d00b0e980ccb555@[207.90.118.18]>
I've got Enchant's "A Blueprint of the World" CD for sale. It's in excellent condition. $12, shipping included.
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm (at) erinet (dot) com Galactic Cowboys on the Web...muh!? http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm ---+ +---
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:14:18 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Metropolis Pt. II Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980119201417.006b8b74@postoffice.syspac.com>
>We all REALLY WANT TO HEAR MET II ASAP, right?
Actually, a friend of mine has heard MET II. There's a demo of it floating around somewhere. I'm surprised no one's mentioned it here. Anyway, from what I've heard about it, it's 23 minutes long and it's really sick (musically speaking :)!! The guy (a member of a local Christian prog band) told me that the demo he heard was an instrumental version of the song, and it had incredibly hard instrumental stuff, an all piano section, an all acoustic guitar section, and then it ended similarly to ACOS, and that some of the riffs and lines from the original Met pt. 1 were regurgitated in the new song. I realize all this is rumor, but I figgered you guys 'n gals would like to know :) Oh, and don't e-mail me asking for a copy, I haven't heard it and I'm in the process of trying to get it myself!
Laterz,
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:28:41 -0500 (EST) From: they cover you in flowers when they bury you <afn39111@afn.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: analog vs digital Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.980119222459.34348A-100000@freenet2.afn.org>
> there's a difference bwteen an ANALOG copy and a DIGITAL copy of > the material.
Yep. Analog sounds better. Digital is more convenient.
(Personally, I would never argue with the human desire for convenience, if there was no harm in it.)
(BTW I heard some years ago that they (who's they? they are) were developing a laser reader for records. No needle touching the things and scratching them to kingdom come. Presumably, analog sound. If that isn't an audiophile's dream... Wonder whatever came of it.)
-=- "I'm me, it's true, shut the fuck up." -- Bill Hicks
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:37:31 -0500 (EST) From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: GENESIS???? Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.980119223536.16913A-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
I just had a bone to pick with a few people on here. I could have sworn I heard from some people on here that Genesis was a kick ass progressive rock band. Well I just bought their new CD "Calling All Stations" and to be frank with you all....it really sucks!!! So I don't know where some of the people here get there info from but please don't ruin it for the rest of us. Later.
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:47:55 -0600 From: filth <ripzero@inlink.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: dt stuff for grabs Message-ID: <199801200353.VAA19098@thor.inlink.com>
another uncovered - $25 rockin' japan - $25 Guitar Talkin' - $25 A kick into a dream - $50
mail if you want. -M
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:10:03 -0500 (EST) From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3473 Message-ID: <01ISKTPOGJIA000N0Q@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
Hey, here's a cool story. I know this info is in the FAQ, but I was watching the coming attractions on my rental of The Player(Robert Altman Film, must-see). I wasn't really paying attention while the trailer for some love affair movie came on, until I heard someone say, "There are things we cannot control". I rewound a few times to be sure, and sure enough, it was the sample from Lie. (I think it was Lie. It's somewhere on Awake. Everyone knows what I'm talking about. Stop making me squirm!) Anyway, the movie was Damage, and like I said, this info is in the faq but it's cool anyway. I wasn't about to rent it just for that. If it hadn't been for The Player, I never would have heard it.
josh rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:17:57 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Echolyn stuff again... Message-ID: <199801200517.AAA05737@umbc8.umbc.edu>
many jams ago, syrinx spake:
> it's one thing to pass media from digital to analog, but quite > another from digital to digital. it's not that they don't want the music > around.
Just to play devil's advocate, what about analog to digital? What if I made a CD-R copy of a cassette of "Suffocating..."? what then?
Kidding. But seriously...
Why "quite another?" It's JUST a copy. If I have a CD of "Suffocating the Bloom" and my friend ONLY has minidisc--walkman, home, car, EVERYTHING, and I bring my CD player and CD to his house and copy it onto minidisc have I done any worse than make a cassette copy? And if so, HOW? If you could EXPLAIN the difference I think many of us would be a little less confused.
Steve Z
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:18:52 -0500 From: Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Portnoy Video Message-ID: <34C433BC.10AB@mtu.edu>
Hello drummers,
I was thinking of purchasing the Portnoy instructional video, how 'bout some reviews?
Matt mwstanic@mtu.edu
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 01:04:10 -0400 (EDT) From: JE78674@ltu.edu To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: Thanks to those who helped on the Queen CD Message-ID: <01ISKXV2SSVM8WWADD@LTU.EDU>
Just wanted to thank the many Ytsejammers who helped me find the right Queen CD. A Kind of Magic is great! Play it, and relive the Highlander movie without even watching it.
Thanks people,
Jeff E.
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:08:06 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: GENESIS???? Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980119220705.8659A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Dan wrote:
> >I just had a bone to pick with a few people on here. I could have sworn >I heard from some people on here that Genesis was a kick ass progressive >rock band. Well I just bought their new CD "Calling All Stations" and >to be frank with you all....it really sucks!!! So I don't know where >some of the people here get there info from but please don't ruin it for >the rest of us. Later. > > hahahah! God, that was a grat joke, Dan! You really... had... me.. fooled?
Oh, I'm sorry. You actually were pissed off. Here's a hint with Genesis: Anything before 1980 is generally good. Anything after 1986 is generally very bad.
--Matt
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 01:23:42 -0500 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hi again everyone! Message-ID: <199801200623.BAA16189@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
Hey folks, long time no post. Christmas break lasted a lot longer than I expected it to (wisdom teeth extraction will tend to have that effect). So, I didn't get to get a lot of stuff done that I wanted to, like updating the FAQ or working on that tour dates page. Hopefully I can get to that stuff over the next couple of weekends.
The Jan. 2 Hartford show was the best DT show I had ever seen... until the Jan. 4 LI show. Holy shit. I'm sure there have been reviews, so I will limit mine to three words: "Trial of Tears." (Should have been there, Skadz. :) Also, JP hinted at the possibility of live appearances by Liquid Tension Experiment after DT gets back from Japan. You heard it here first.
I'm waythefuck behind on e-mail (including the Jam), so if I've missed anything ultra important, please private e-mail me and let me know. Otherwise...
Oh, yeah, if anyone here owns a Yamaha TR-505 drum machine, please let me know. I just got my hands on a used one, with no book, and with no labeling on the ports on the back. Help! :)
-d
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