YTSEJAM Digest 4061
Today's Topics:
1) Hello and thanks...
by "Hector Crisantes" <snyfarms@dakotacom.net>
2) Official Live CD
by Bernardo Borghetti <borghetti@netgo.com.br>
3) Re: non-prog music
by Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4060
by Michael Bahr <durnik@ANTISPAMgoodnet.com>
5) Bad American manner
by Policastro Cosimo <policast@ic8sd2.settimo.italtel.it>
6) Re: Sports, Music, Media
by David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
7) joe jackson
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
8) DT in Minnesota.
by AL <al@isd.net>
9) Re: Metropolis part II ?
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
10) You want an intelligent debate? Try the local bar :)
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4060
by META SECTION <meta@dreamt.org>
12) my 2 cents, actually it's more like 1 cent
by META SECTION <meta@dreamt.org>
13) Re: You want an intelligent debate? Read.
by "Earle Jason" <earle_jason@bah.com>
14) Other Stuff in the CD player
by "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
15) RE: YTSEJAM digest 4058
by "Nafe, Tim" <tnafe@BestBuy.com>
16) Re: FII boots...
by Adam Pye <alpineone@mindspring.com>
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 01:35:18 -0700
From: "Hector Crisantes" <snyfarms@dakotacom.net>
To: "YTSEJAM" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Hello and thanks...
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Hello guys,
Remember me? Yea well I thought I'd drop a line since I've been lurking =
for so long. I'd also like to thank everybody who helped out in the =
"Make a Wish" letter I sent. Hope you guys are having an Amazing summer =
(For those who live north of the equator) and a great Winter (for those =
who live south of the equator). Keep on rockin!!!! =20
Sincerely,
Hector "DTFreak" Crisantes
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 21:48:11 -0600
From: Bernardo Borghetti <borghetti@netgo.com.br>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Official Live CD
Message-ID: <35A6E077.A4C5D739@netgo.com.br>
Anybody here knows about the right musics that I'll compose the Live CD?
and the name of the CD?
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 04:14:48 -0500
From: Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: non-prog music
Message-ID: <35A9D008.5E5C@bellsouth.net>
Well, I haven't posted in a while, but I like this kind of thread so
here I go...
as for metal, favs would include:
Ozzy, The Scorpions, Pre-Load Metallica, Megadeth, Guns & Roses, and
some Slayer...
as for rock stuff, definite ones are:
Chicago, Blood Sweat and Tears, Tower of Power, Cold Blood, The Beatles,
Aerosmith, Joni Mitchell, Nine Inch Nails, Dave Matthews, Widespread
Panic, Lighthouse, Galactic, Sting, Santana, Paul Simon, and Elton John.
then, I love jazz,people such as John Coltrane, Chet Baker, Hank
Crawford, Chick Corea, Buddy Rich, Maynard Ferguson, Zoot Sims, Stan
Getz, Jimmy Smith, Buddy DeFranco, Dave Weckl, Joe Pass, and tons of
others....
And my top 5 prog groups would be Queensryche and Dream Theater tied for
top spot, followed by Fates Warning, Pink Floyd, and King Crimson
oh, and I forgot to mention Kenny G and Michael Bolton...NOT!!!!
hehe
-- Geaux Tigers!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/la/qryche/index.html "I Know If I Try, I'll Get Where I'm Going/ Keeping My Eyes On the Sky" -"Some People Fly" by Queensryche now playing: Jimmy Smith "Damn!"------------------------------
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:27:54 -0700 From: Michael Bahr <durnik@ANTISPAMgoodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4060 Message-ID: <35A9D31A.7068@ANTISPAMgoodnet.com>
> Hey, > Would anyone (Marcel, Nick, Bahr, Felix?) care to post > comparing and contrasting the currently available FII cd boots > both for sound quality and track listing? I'm sure we'd all > like to get the most bang for our buck (at least until > the LA and Paris shows are available) :) > > 1. Marcel's 'De Maaspoort' Den Bosch > 2. Nicky B's Fasten Your Seatbelts > 3. Bahr's Welcome to the Wasteland > 4. OAN's Static Progress > 5. In Germany 4/18/97 > 6. Others???
Of the six, only Stream of Consciousness (formerly Wasteland) is soundboard, but the rest are all audience DAT source and all sound clear and crisp. Basically it's a huge tossup. I personally would buy more than one show based on content. Marcel is known to make good material so get De Maasport. FYS is so cheap there's no reason not to get it (and good content too). (although now SOC is only $5 more, so I guess price isn't a serious difference like it once was). SOC is the soundboard one. Everyone says Static Progress is good, and if it's even close to the DAT of that show that I have, then it sounds just fine. I have not heard In Germany (yet) and so cannot comment on it. The FII tour has some actual variance of performance, so getting more than one boot plus the official live release is my recommended course of action.
-- - Mike Bahr - Prism Records - remove ANTISPAM in my address to reply - Hardcore fan of Dream Theater, King's X, Rush (the band), and more!!! - Magic: the Gathering "Duelists' Convocation Level 2 Certified Judge" - d u r n i k @ g o o d n e t . c o m - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/ - If it's nae Scottish, it's CRAP!
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:37:35 +0200 From: Policastro Cosimo <policast@ic8sd2.settimo.italtel.it> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Bad American manner Message-ID: <35A9D55F.62E4BD62@ic8sd2.settimo.italtel.it>
last week I wrote:
>P.S.Ronaldo is the best playsoccer of the world! > and he plays in my favourite team:INTER!!
I think that it's normal to say that in my favourite sport ,SOCCER,I like more than others playsoccers RONALDO ( for those that don't known him,he's a brazilian boy that in my country is called "FENOMENO" because is the best example of technic,fantasy and speed in a soccerplayer..). Here in Italy ,like in England and others European's country ,soccer is the most important sport and I said these words to see if even in America there is someone who like this sport. This is the message that KorgX3 wrote : "Did I ever mention that your mom's such a slut that Bill Clinton won't even sleep with her? Oh, where are my manners?"
Oh,I know where are your manners... ..nowhere because your mom didn't never teach you...
I hope you will lose early your fucking head.!!
Goodbye from Italy Cosimo
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:45:17 -0400 From: David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Sports, Music, Media Message-ID: <199807130545_MC2-52ED-E664@compuserve.com>
At last the footballs finished! At least the people in the US have a bit more choice over sports, in the UK if you don't like football (drink lager and like Oasis) people think your a bit strange. I really don't mind any sport (or music) if it is kept in proportion with everything else and not forced down my throat by every television channel (all 4 of them in my case). Last night when the final match was on TV they were showing the match on two channels and it was the same bloody shots, needless to say I turned it off. I think sport is a bit like music, you can make anything popular if you market it correctly e.g. Spice Girls, Football. Why do footballers get millions of pounds for kicking a bag of wind about when netball players get bugger all for throwing the same bag of wind about ?? A happy (for the first time for 6 weeks) UK Jammer. David C.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:38:51 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: joe jackson Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C34170A541@ms.kallback.com>
> From: szebro1@gl.umbc.edu > Subject: JOE JACKSON!!! > Yo, Kez! > I can't believe someone on the list FINALLY has acknowleged the > greatness > of Joe Jackson! I though I was all alone! He is absolutely one of my > favorite artists/composers EVER. I'm so psyched that he's now on Sony > Classical. The new album rocks. Kez, Zeb and all, I must third the opinion. JJ is the man. I have all his cds from I'm the Man to his latest Heaven & Hell as well as two soundtracks, Tucker and Mike's Murder, and I love every one. He may not be progressive in the commonly accepted sense of the word, but he definitely progresses from album to album with different styles of music from punk to swing to classical to whatever you would call his new one, which is based on the seven sins.
You guys might like it cuz one song has a lot of swear words in it. :)
Trevor
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:28:01 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: YTSELAND <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT in Minnesota. Message-ID: <35A9EF41.D743DD55@isd.net>
Who is going to the DP/ELP/DT show Aug. 23 in Hinkley Minnesota? Any Ytse-meetings planned? If anyone is interested, here is the venue map if you would like to check out your seating view. http://www.ticketmaster.com/venue/ch3/423/seat1.html
-- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:03:07 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Metropolis part II ? Message-ID: <35A9F77B.4290@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
> > Um, anybody heard when this thing is coming out? > > Er, how long is a piece of string ?
Depends? You talkin' Metric?
:)
-- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:12:49 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: You want an intelligent debate? Try the local bar :) Message-ID: <35A9F9C1.45E4@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
KorgX3 wrote:
> My biggest reason for the protest is that I hate sports in general. The > whole principle that (at least in the US) our school's athletic programs
OK, this is WAYYYYYYYYY off-topic, and will simply not be tolerated.
Graham spanked rather lightly:
> PS Are you a girl or boy and where did your parents get the name > 'KorgX3' from ?
His mom was a singer at a speak easy, and Dad was into tuning pianos. Korg was actually conceived on a baby grand, somewhere around C#. Interestingly enough, the vibrato effect was discovered around the same time. He was incubated in the piano stool, as Tori - an nanny at the time while she was working on her act - was able to keep the seat quite warm. Nine months later, open the stool, out pops this adorable little Casio wannabee.
:)
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:37:18 -0400 From: META SECTION <meta@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4060 Message-ID: <35A9FF7E.CB3B9ECB@dreamt.org>
-- Ytseprogtologist mentioned that one of his favorite artists is: >Andreas Vollenweider.
ALL RIGHT. It's good to see someone mention this guy. he is unbelievable. A harp player that plays music that doesn't sound like a harp. maybe there has already been a thread about him, if not I hope there will be. Check thias guy out, you won't be disappointed.
in keeping with the non prog stuff
Sarah Maclachan chroma Key (while DT related, non prog) VOD Drain STH Peter Gabriel and a whole shitload more but I doubt anyone reads past the first five anyway
- Layne
----------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out my new band META SECTION at http://members.xoom.com/METASECTION/meta.htm It's a mix of metal/industrial/progressive/rock. Check it out -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:45:43 -0400 From: META SECTION <meta@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: my 2 cents, actually it's more like 1 cent Message-ID: <35AA0177.E5AE5F04@dreamt.org>
-- Will someone tell me what this mailing list is called please..... oh, it's called ytsejam. That stands for DREAM THEATER and music if I am not mistaken. Ok, now that I have settled the purpose of this list and the reason I and all the other fans joined I can now say, this is not called the WORLD CUP SOCCER mailing list. I don't normally get pissed but c'mon. Sports are are something that are praised the world over 10 times more than progressive music. We all joined this list to learn more about DT and related music. and if you post about music and add sports at the end, that is cool. but I will flip if I ever see another friggin' post about soccer or the such. it doesn't belong here. I thought maybe KorgX3 had settled this for us but apparently not. I STRONGLY SUGGEST ANYONE WHO HAS THE URGE TO POST SPORTS ONLY CONTENT BE PUBLICLY HUMILIATED AND STONED.
- Layne
ps- korg, your post covered just about everything on this subject and I felt there was no need to add but it seems people are not understanding this. good job korg ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out my new band META SECTION at http://members.xoom.com/METASECTION/meta.htm It's a mix of metal/industrial/progressive/rock. Check it out -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:52:01 -0400 From: "Earle Jason" <earle_jason@bah.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: You want an intelligent debate? Read. Message-ID: <35AA02F0.4E43111@bah.com>
> Maybe it's just me, but I respect a > guy who can determine the integral of f(y)=2x and explain the results > of the > resultant parabolic curve a little bit more than a guy who can run > faster or > jump higher than me.
Well, I dunno about THAT one...but integral of f(y) = 2x dx = x^2. The resulting parabola has a vertex aat the origin (cross of the conventional x and y axes in Cartesian notation, exists only in the first and second quadrants, and is symetrical across the vertical axis.
I'm a Marine, but I also have a degree in Electrical Engineering. Woo-hoo!
(actually tho...I hate people that go off on how much more brilliant they are than the next guy... this is just me being a smart ass.)
Sorry for the NDT. I'll throw in some gratuitous DT content: umm... John Myung was recently interviewed in "Modern Bassist" and was quoted as saying "Parabolas are cool. Take that, Elefson, you frigging retard. Bet you don't know what a parabola IS, Mr. I'm a little girly wuss that loves my pansy ass four strings..."
Seriously. Check it out in last April's issue.
Cheers,
-Looeeeee
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:03:52 -0400 From: "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Other Stuff in the CD player Message-ID: <36E02D8151FFD1118C1C00600808ACE51D7576@HAMSXHA2>
> hey ye all jammers, > * I'm wondering what you jammers listen to besides prog rock
Loaded question.
Joy Division New Order The Cure The Fixx Midge Ure Ultravox Megadeth Metallica (up to/including TBA) LTE Vital Tech Tones Lorenna McKenitt Yarina (Anyone who lives in MA, this is the Peruvian street band in Harvard Square/ Fanieul Hall) Infectious Grooves The Church Dishwalla (yes, Dishwalla) Barenaked Ladies Eric Johnson Stevie Ray Vaughn Luther "Guitar Jr." Johnson Robben Ford & The Blue Line Sigue Sigue Sputnik (anyone? Anyone know where this band comes from?) Sepultura Vic Wooten Michael Manring Pantera
Nicholas Giannotti JointSTARS Contracts <mailto:Giannottin@hanscom.af.mil> Giannottin@hanscom.af.mil "Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool."
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:39:06 -0500 From: "Nafe, Tim" <tnafe@BestBuy.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 4058 Message-ID: <3CBB14EE9DB4D111B21100805FA71952027752@cs01_exchange>
> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:36:44 -0400 > From: "Bryan Keyser" <kez@spectrum-internet.com> > To: <ytsejam@ax.com> > Subject: Re: non-prog music > Message-ID: <004c01bdadaa$e044e920$1519efce@KezWork> > > > > > >hey ye all jammers, > > > >I'm wondering what you jammers listen to besides prog rock (yes, > early > >genesis, elp, marillion, rush, pink floyd, king crimson, gentle > giant, et > >al) and prog metal (dt, fates warning, savatage, etc). This could > include > >"normal" classic rock (Hendrix, Cream, Zeppelin), "normal" metal of > any > >type, proficient or not, (Metallica, Judas Priest), and anything > else. So, > >basically, I'm asking for anything not in the "progressive" category. > > > > OK, since you asked: > > Tesla Queensryche Metallica Def Leppard Shooting Star
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:42:52 -0400 From: Adam Pye <alpineone@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: FII boots... Message-ID: <199807131343.JAA01275@camel14.mindspring.com>
Someone asked about these boots:
>1. Marcel's 'De Maaspoort' Den Bosch >2. Nicky B's Fasten Your Seatbelts >3. Bahr's Welcome to the Wasteland >4. OAN's Static Progress >5. In Germany 4/18/97 >6. Others???
A couple of notes. "FYS" isn't a full show, but I've heard the sound quality is excellent. OAN has gotten great reviews and the setlist is one of the "new" FII sets (including TTT, etc) which I much prefer to the LITS, BMS -> Voices, etc set. I don't know about the quality or packaging of Den Bosch, but I have the tape and it's a pretty average show - nothing spectacular (good Scarred, tho'). The 4/18/97 show isn't a FII tour show, actually. It's from the "An Evening of New Music with Dream Theater" shows, and has the same setlist as most of the other shows in that mini-tour. Includes the original BMS (w/ Hell's Kitchen in the middle), JLMB, PS, etc. It's worth it just to get the reworked The Killing Hand, but I think the 4/14/97 (Caught in Amsterdam) show is better. 4/16/97, tho' not for sale AFAIK, is the first time they ever played Trial of Tears live. As far as others go, if you're just looking to buy CDs you're not going to find too much else out there as far as FII tour stuff goes. The Atlanta show (12/16/97) is good and is available to buy. I can't remember where but I think whoever was offering it was wanting b/t $40-$50 which is quite the ripoff. Philadelphia (5/9/98) is excellent and every copy I've seen is on CD, but I don't think anyone who has it is selling it (thankfully) so it's trade only. There's a CD boot of one of the recent Japan shows (I want to say 1/13/98, but not sure) that I believe he's eventually going to release for sale, but I don't know if it's reached many US folks yet. I got it from the original taper and he asked not to trade or sell (ya right) it. Good luck finding these, the FII tour is the best so far!
___________________________________________ Adam Pye alpineone@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~alpineone/tapelist.html ^^ Above URL for bootlist with setlists ___________________________________________
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