YTSEJAM Digest 4049
Today's Topics:
1) Boot Trading/Tourdate Archive
by Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
2) Re: Distortion and Overdrive
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
3) YTSEJAM RADIO: CORPORATE AMERICA IS RUNNING SCARED
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
4) Re: Real Video cybercast of House of Blues show
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
5) Suck my plasma, Vince Gill.
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4047
by "Andrew Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
7) For Tom Cox
by "Andrew Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
8) Peart, Megasuck, and Ying-wee
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
9) New address n stuff
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
10) Re: Neil
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
11) Re: DT's popularity?
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
12) New boot traders
by Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net>
13) Computer downage
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
14) Re: Real Video cybercast of House of Blues show
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
15) Re:the best country....
by policast@ic8u81.settimo.italtel.it (Policastro Cosimo)
16) DVD
by rjurado <rjurado@eiger.com.ph>
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 20:28:22 -0700
From: Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Boot Trading/Tourdate Archive
Message-ID: <35A438D6.AA3@idt.net>
> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 00:36:06 -0500
> From: Joseph Bissonnette <jabisson@students.wisc.edu>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: Re: Rating bootlegs and boot trading
> Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980708003605.012b7c60@students.wisc.edu>
Snip...
> Hmm, how do you do that exactly? And what if you really don't have any
> worthwhile boots to trade? Is there a listing somewhere for bootleg
> newbies? You hit the nail on the head when you say that we never knew
> they were out there. How do I trade for something that I don't know
> exists, nor who has it, and have nothing good to offer in exchange?
> Buying boots from Scarred and OAN, and all the rest is just a hell of a
> lot easier. Anybody want to offer some help here?
>
> Joe
Joe,
Well, I'm one of those people like Scarred and OAN, though I offer a
solution to your trading woes. I have a Master list of EVERY DT show
known to man that I'm working on (see the "Tourdate Archive" URL below),
though it's not quite complete. It will have Setlist info, supporting
acts, reviews from people who attended, and whether or not an audio/video
tape of the show exists. What I REALLY wanted to do was include E-Mail
addys of the people who actually OWN these audio/video tapes, so that if
you're looking for a particular show, you can just E-Mail that guy and
ask for the trade. I've met with some resistance, mainly because either
the people are afraid of having their names in plain view (You might have
read that a Springsteen TRADER was recently taken to court because he
owned a page dedicated to Springsteen trading), or they don't want to be
bothered by "newbies". If I could get some volunteers, I'd DEFINATELY
add that option back into the archive, and let everyone who wants to be a
part of it get in. Take a look at the archive (only through 1993 is
really done, I'm still working on it) and see if you want to be part of
it. I want to make it a "One-Stop" place, where people can see reviews
of shows, setlists and pick up a few new tapes. Maybe I'm just expecting
too much....
-- John DiBella President/Xanadu Records http://idt.net/~rsch1/index.htmlDream Theater Tourdate Archive http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/grunge/49/DreamT.html
* In the stream of consciuosness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit, we're dying *
Dream Theater
* Be EXCELLENT to each other! *
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 19:30:38 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Distortion and Overdrive Message-ID: <19987820263441@ix.netcom.com>
<<Jam,
Can anyone explain the difference between Overdrive and Distortion? Is a Distortion pedal worth getting and if so, what is a good pedal?
Thanks
Mark>>
Well, there are basically 3 kinds of "gain" sounds you can get, listed from least gain to most are:
overdrive, distortion, fuzz
Overdrive can only be TRULY reproduced by cranking a tube amp, which is why many new Overdrive pedals will have a tube in them. This sound is mostly used by blues players. Distortion, on the other hand, is more grittier, and is used everywhere from rock to metal, to whatever. Fuzz is an even more distorted distortion sound, and makes the distortion sound (you guessed it) fuzzy. Henrix used Fuzz a lot, and so does David Gilmour. If you want a bluesier and not so distorted sound, I say get the Tube King by Ibanez. It has an actual tube inside, to get a "true" overdriven sound, plus mid, treb, and bass EQ controls. For a more rock or metal sound, get a BOSS Metal Zone. They're inexpensive, and gets you one hell of a crunch/lead sound. For the Hendrix Fuzz tone, get either a Jim Dunlop Fuzz Face, or a Sovtek (or Electro Harmonix if you can find em) Big Muff. By the way, even though Fuzz is more distorted than distortion, due to the "fuzziness" of its sound, I find that it does not work well for a crunch sound, nor does Overdrive, since its not distorted enough to get a crunch sound. I use a Fender Twin Reverb amp and (with settings I got from Petrucci's lead amp in the DT Help thingy for windows, its on Under a Cyber Moon) using the metal zone, I can get a pretty good lead/crunch sound without changing the settings. Also, in case you dont know, reverb will take away from the "crunch" and make it sound muddier, so if you get reverb from a soruce outside your amp (pedal, multi, rack unit) I would suggest not using reverb for the crunch sound. If youhave a multi FX unit, you can program a crunch patch without reverb on it, and a lead patch with reverb.
Hope that helps.
Matt
"chuckles wants REAL eggs."
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 19:36:42 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YTSEJAM RADIO: CORPORATE AMERICA IS RUNNING SCARED Message-ID: <35a4109a597f004@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
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"Radio can go and suck my ass." - James LaBrie
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:55:22 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Real Video cybercast of House of Blues show Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980708215310.27053A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Nektarios Vasilios Bamiatzis wrote:
> Now my question is , if it's possible and if someone will do save the > whole thing as a file and would mail me a URL to download , so I > could take this home to watch on my INTEL PC. Would be great and > of course not just interesting for me.
I second that, Nektarios! And just as interesting it would be for both of us (and obviously for much more people who may not voice their opinions), I think that it would also serve as an archive for historical purposes: the performance could be available on some ftp/www site for downloads...
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:55:11 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Suck my plasma, Vince Gill. Message-ID: <002301bdaad4$3d6d3dc0$210d84d0@korgx3>
>Which is best country?
Shania Twain maybe? While I basically despise most country music, she could sing all she wanted and I still wouldn't kick her out of bed.
>radio today, and Megadeth announced that it was official: Nick Menza is out >of Megadeth for good.
NO! GOD! NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Nick's drumwork was always one of the things that kept me into to Megadeth. :( What is this, the drummer curse year? What's next? Will Portnoy accidentally swallow his uvula and suffocate or something? This sucks.
>Hello Everybody, >My name is Felix
Dammit. Why do people named Felix always have to fuck everything up? (I work with one). First you superspam the jam and not only that, but you send HTML, thus prompting me to call yo mama a slut to the jam?!?!?!? You buttfold. :P
Where's George Farber when you need him? --KorgX3
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:32:34 -0400 From: "Andrew Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4047 Message-ID: <19980709012842.KXBF7196@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello,
>MP3 of the week - "Staying Alive" the Bee Gees cover with Ozzy on vocals, >Dweezil on Guitars, guest solos by Nuno, Steve Lukather and Zakk Wylde:
#1: Is this for real? And #2: If for real, where do I find this? :) Max said: >Hoping you actually take me seriously,
I'm trying, but you're making it very hard... :)
>Which is best country? >But your name to it down, please.
Can you say automatic unsub? This is preposterous. Kill this guy, will ya? Korg? Bafu? George Farber? :)
Andrew
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:06:41 -0400 From: "Andrew Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: For Tom Cox Message-ID: <19980709020248.LPOM7196@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello, Sorry to clutter the Jam with this. Tom, I deleted all your messages, so I don't have your address. Regardless, I received your mailing, and thank you. Hope you're still enjoying the CD!
Andrew
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 19:46:06 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Peart, Megasuck, and Ying-wee Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980708194604.006eb6c4@postoffice.syspac.com>
Neil Peart
Okay first off, This stuff with Neil Peart really sucks. First he lost his daughter last year, and now this. Did I miss anything? I hope nothing else befalls this poor guy. His music and his lyrics have always seemed like they came from the heart, and there are not many musicians, or people for that matter, that do that anymore. It's a rare commodity and that makes his work all that more special to me. To hear about him going through this....well....my prayers are with him.
MEGADETH
Moving on now, we get to talk about my favorite band. I thought that Nick Menza fit Megadeth like a glove. His time is great, his fills are good, he's a good showman, and he can do all the double bass work you could ever ask of a drummer in a thrash band. It kinda hit me like a ton of bricks last month when I heard he was going to have knee surgery, and now to hear that he can't play anymore really got me down....almost as down as when I heard about what happened to Neil Peart's wife. To be a talented musician and to have the ability to make your music stripped from you has got to be one hell of a horror, and as with Neil, my prayers are with Nick Menza and his family...and with Megadeth. I hope Megadeth chugs on through this, finds a permanent drummer that suits them, and uses this as motivation. They'll never really find a "replacement" for Nick, but I hope they find someone good.
YIIIIIING WEEEEEEEEEEEE!
"Who? Yngwie fucking Malmsteem, that's who!" That shirt is so dumb! Anyway, I've never bought any Yngwie albums before, so I decided to run out and get his new one a few weeks ago, and after listening to it alot, I REALLY dig it. About the only thing I don't like is the guitar sound. His playing, however, and the music are just incredible. Very fluid. I've just never been a fan of using a single coil pickup with a heavy metal rhythm sound. Single coils have their uses, and to me, that's not one of them. Especially through a Marshall (bleh!), but that's a whole other thread :) Yngwie's music sounds like a watered down version of Symphony X :) However, it's still very good, and I recommend this album to anyone. Heavier than Satch, Vai, and Johnson's music......well.....except for that ballbuster "Alien Love Secrets". Man, that was a nice heavy album :)
Well, enough ramblings for now....laterz!!
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | http://www.prognosis.com/obscure/ | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 00:22:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: Ytse Love-In <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New address n stuff Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980709001507.24086A-100000@optical.mindstorm.com>
Hey, gang. Here's the announcement, for those of you that haven't heard. After 22 straight years, I have decided that being a student is no longer for me. So, I'm moving back to Long Island to get a real job (and make some real money :), and learn what it's like to enjoy a weekend. Anyway, you can still e-mail me at d-man@dreamt.org, although my "real" address is changing, from cmerlo@cs.wm.edu to cmerlo@mindstorm.com. Of course, that means that my web site has to move, and it already has -- URL is in the .sig, as always.
Chroma Key - go get it.
Rush - It's not completely selfish to hope that they get back together. You never know, it might just be the one thing Neil needs to get over the terrible tragedies in his life. Twenty-four years later, it's the one thing he still has. And don't forget to send the R&R Hall of Fame some hate mail if the boys aren't inducted next year.
Banks - You're better off keeping your money under your mattress. I almost got burned by my bank in Vermont, and now I have been burned twice by my bank here in Virginia. (Thank Ged I'm going home.) *ALWAYS* read your bank statements. Banks *do* make mistakes. Computers *are* fallible, because they're programmed by people (most of the time dumbshits).
OK, that's it for now. -d
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 23:24:30 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Neil Message-ID: <19987901929541@ix.netcom.com>
<<Yup. first his daughter, then the Working Man tribute, then his wife dying, then I just recently read where someone's planning one releasing another Rush tribute album... The dude's under some serious stress. I hope he gets better soon. The world is missing out on one hell of a drummer and lyricist. Not to mention one hell of a great guy.>>
Not to mention the fact that some rapper dj just BUTCHERED Tom Sawyer for the Small Soldiers movie. I mean, first the guy's daughter and wife die, then some fat sweaty rapper decides to slaughter one of Rush's best songs? I sure hope those rappers wind up killing each other off. Daddy says every time a rapper dies an angel gets its wings. I wanna see a lot of angels flying around.....
BTW, anyone who has any bit of respect for Neil or Rush in general, please DONT see Small Soldiers. Tell your friends. I know its a small protest, but its something. If you respect Mr Peart and Rush, dont see this movie.
Matt
"chuckles wants REAL eggs."
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 23:30:45 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT's popularity? Message-ID: <1998790252656334@ix.netcom.com>
Ive been meaning to bring this up for a while, and i wanna know what the rest of you think. We all know DT is not exactly the most popular band around. And I also know a lot of you are trying to get them onto the charts. I know they are already popular in Japan (thems gots some VERY smart people living in that country) but think about it if they became popular in the states. Think about it right now...DT would be on MTV and sell out stadiums. Do we really want this? They are popular in Japan, but why would it make a difference if they became popular here? One reason: the American media. You know the American media would tear DT apart if they became popular. Over saturating them until they dried up like any other "popular" band in america. For some reason, most other countries DONT have a media that does this! You think a country like Sweden would over expose bands like America does? I do wish the best for DT, and it would be cool to see them become more well known, but not in this country. Opinions are open....
Matt
"chuckles wants REAL eggs."
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 00:00:54 -0500 From: Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New boot traders Message-ID: <35A44E86.DB1@auburn.net>
Adam Pye wrote... > Every trader started with nothing to trade. There's always > someone out there who will help you get started....(snip)
Exactly. I was a new trader a little over 2 years ago when I first got web and email access. The very first thing I did was join the Ytsejam, and I think my first post mentioned that I was searching for a live version of ACoS with James on vocals. Less than 24 hours later a kind person named Mape agreed to help me out, and I'm still grateful to him for getting me started. Thanks, Mape :) BTW, I'm sorry I wrote on the J-card of the tapes I sent you, but I didn't know any better.
I've been trading ever since then. A few Bahr discs and many trades later I've got a decent collection of DT-related CD-Rs, tapes, and videos. I consider myself to be a mid-level trader now. I have never, ever turned anyone down just because they had nothing but blanks to trade. I don't plan on changing that in the near future, either.
If you're new to trading and you don't know where to begin, feel free to check out my boot list. If you see something that you think would help get you going as a trader, email me and we'll set up a deal. I know I'm not the only one who is glad to do this; I'm just using myself as an example. http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/bootlegs.html
Speaking of Adam Pye, whom I quoted at the top of this message, I've traded with him before. I emailed him about a week before DT played Atlanta last December, and we swapped tapes after the show. Not only did I meet a great fellow 'jammer, and not only did I save postage, I got a kickass Rush tape that still gets more than its share of time in my tape player.
Take care, Mark Peters swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:59:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Computer downage Message-ID: <199807090459.AA16398@crl.crl.com>
My 'puter has gone down, not sure for how long. Please don't panic if you don't get an acknowledgement for your Younique preorder right away.
Clarification: I'm handling preorders for the US, east of the Mississippi, at the email address below. Pam "Kerowyn" Doise is handling preorders from west of the Mississippi, at ytsepam@earthlink.net.
My webpage for existing preorders (might not be updated for a while, now) is at www.crl.com/~vanyel/younique.html. I hope. :)
-- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes / Centers our perspective Paul W. Cashman And pacifies our cries / Sometimes the anguish we survive vanyel@crl.com And the mysteries we nurture / Are the fabrics of our lives ICQ# 4151223 "Lines in the Sand," Dream Theater - FALLING INTO INFINITY www.crl.com/~vanyel
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 02:32:37 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Real Video cybercast of House of Blues show Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980709023237.007e8a40@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
I will try to do something very cheap, Im going to put my tripod with my videocamera, connetc the audio in to my computer and record the show this way, I know the quality will be very cheap but I think it is worth it, I will edit the stuff that will be cut by connections problems and stuff, I'll let you know how many songs came good.....
At 02:19 PM 8/07/98 -0700, you wrote: > >HI Jammers > >I heard about the RealVideo transmission that 'll be on July , 15th. >Unluckily I'm connected to the Internet Via HPUX Workstation, so >I won't be able to watch. >Now my question is , if it's possible and if someone will do save the >whole thing as a file and would mail me a URL to download , so I >could take this home to watch on my INTEL PC. Would be great and >of course not just interesting for me. > >THANX IN ADVANCE >and Just Let Me Breathe > >..NEKI. > >E-MAIL: bamiatns@trick.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de > > --- MP3 of the week - "Staying Alive" the Bee Gees cover with Ozzy on vocals, Dweezil on Guitars, guest solos by Nuno, Steve Lukather and Zakk Wylde: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/2025/
Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico -------------------------------------------------------- TAKE NOTE OF MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: alan_estrada@bigfoot.com
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:20:33 +0200 From: policast@ic8u81.settimo.italtel.it (Policastro Cosimo) To: -v@ic8u81.settimo.italtel.it, ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:the best country.... Message-ID: <9807090920.AA09293@ic8u81.settimo.italtel.it>
..for me,well
is ITALY Cosimo MILAN
P.S.Ronaldo is the best playsoccer of the world! and he plays in my favourite team:INTER!!
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:12:01 +0800 From: rjurado <rjurado@eiger.com.ph> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DVD Message-ID: <35A48961.2C3EC390@globalcafe.com.ph>
I've been hoping for this since the live album and video were first mentioned! It feels like months since I posted that. I say let's all talk DVD on the jam so that Portnoy gets wind of it and says to East/West how much we really want a DVD.
-Rob
ytsejam@ax.com wrote: > > YTSEJAM Digest 4013 > > video? To HELL with a double disc! Include the whole fucking works on a > DVD! No edits! The entirity of both shows! We're talking about 4-5 hours > of music alone!!! (Well, that's still depending on how much a DVD holds for
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