YTSEJAM digest 4065

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Date: Tue Jul 14 1998 - 20:56:36 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 4065

    Today's Topics:

      1) Attention : Empty Tremor's Apocolokyntosys for 16 $ !!!
     by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
      2) Attention: Tim Lodge & M. Tedesco
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
      3) Re: non-prog music
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
      4) New Queensryche material?
     by "OPEN ALL NIGHT RECORDS" <kingofswing@hol.fr>
      5) Re: non-prog favorites
     by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
      6) re: ytse-constipation
     by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
      7) King's X questions
     by YtseSryche@aol.com
      8) Re: true dreamers
     by fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
      9) Re: non-prog music
     by fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
     10) Re: Football World Cup France 1998
     by fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
     11) Re: new DP/ELP
     by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
     12) Total Request thing on Thursday
     by YtseSryche@aol.com
     13) NonProg Stuff
     by WazooDust@aol.com
     14) Re: FII Tour Boot Recommendations
     by Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
     15) Duel Rec vs. triAxis
     by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
     16) KJLB on new Shadow Gallery album and other stuph
     by MTeiper@aol.com

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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:25:34 -0700
    From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Attention : Empty Tremor's Apocolokyntosys for 16 $ !!!
    Message-ID: <35AC2F3E.4286@fh-niederrhein.de>

    Hi there

    You can now order Empty Tremor's Apocolokyntosys for ONLY 16 $ !!!

    Visit : http://www.cdnow.com/from=sr-982175

    P.S. The Essential Prog Guide is now online. Check out my Prog Or Die
    page.

    It's a beta version and I need your help.

    Please email me any suggestions you have. Thank you

    Arash

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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:30:35 -0300 (EST)
    From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Attention: Tim Lodge & M. Tedesco
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980714162649.15965B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

            Hi, Tim Lodge & M. Tedesco.

            The emails delivered to your accounts on the YtseCD mailing list
    are bouncing. Please, if you can read this message, let me know your
    current emails (perhaps you forgot to change your addresses on the mailing
    list, after changing ISPs?). I wouldn't like to loose contributors to the
    list.

            []s, Roger...

    --
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      Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito
      Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!"
       Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html
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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:38:09 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: non-prog music Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980712010237.15122A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, Alex Smith wrote:

    > I'm wondering what you jammers listen to besides prog rock (yes, early > genesis, elp, marillion, rush, pink floyd, king crimson, gentle giant, et > al) and prog metal (dt, fates warning, savatage, etc). This could include > "normal" classic rock (Hendrix, Cream, Zeppelin), "normal" metal of any > type, proficient or not, (Metallica, Judas Priest), and anything else. So, > basically, I'm asking for anything not in the "progressive" category.

    Well, here are some non-prog bands that I listen to:

    Opeth Metallica (old and new) Megadeth (old and new) Emperor (new) Dark Tranquillity (cool stuff) In Flames (almost the same band as Dark Tranquillity) Darkthrone (THE worst production I've heard) Dimmu Borgir Therion (their new stuff) Celtic Frost Satyricon (still trying to find out if I like it) Dissection (the production on "The Somberlain" isn't the best) Katatonia (boring, except the vocals) Cynic Edge of Sanity Iron Maiden Angra Univers Zero (one of my best acquisitions in a long time)

    Basically, that's it. These are the bands that I enjoy AND recommend to any jammer.

    Here are progressive rock bands that I'm just discovering, but that were interesting surprises:

    National Health Shub Niggurath Happy the Man Lift Yezda Urfa Quaterna Requiem Solaris Traffic North Star Rosala (Rosalia??) Lito Vitale Cuarteto Blesqui Zatzas Joaquin Lievano Edhels

    Hope you appreciate some of these bands, Roger...

    -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:33:30 +0200 From: "OPEN ALL NIGHT RECORDS" <kingofswing@hol.fr> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New Queensryche material? Message-ID: <002701bdaf5e$615e5280$1c2a9ac3@mr.mouro>

    Hi there, Following is the translation of a short notice which appeared in the July 1998 issue of the French HARD FORCE magazine:

    "The new QUEENSRYCHE album indeed marks the debut of Kelly Gray as the replacement for Chris DeGarmo. The band has presented four new tracks ("when the rain comes", "break down", "right side", and "one") from their upcoming album during a recent listening party at its Seattle fan club."

    Can anyone confirm this? Has anyone been there to hear the new tracks? What do they sound like?

    Take care, Felix.

    OPEN ALL NIGHT RECORDS http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/9326/oan.htm

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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:55:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: non-prog favorites Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980714145425.23275A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>

    On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Lisa Marie wrote:

    >Alice In Chains, Megadeth, Conception, Blackmore's Night, >Tori Amos, Loreena McKennitt, and at the risk of Mr. Audet >accusing me of jumping on his bandwagon... The Grassy Knoll

    D'oh! I totally forgot about MD and LM! I also listen to Trillian Green on occasion -- fun stuff, that.

    --Matt

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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:24:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: ytse-constipation Message-ID: <19980714222446.15456.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com>

    Hey Skadz!

    The jam server seems to be constipated! Try prune juice and bran... Or I could send you a particularly fiberous Visual-Object-Pro*Cobol++ program that is sure to loosen it's chips... ;o)

    my 2 bits, BH

    Warning: Overexposure to ancient mainframe software is hazardous to your health.

    _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:34:49 EDT From: YtseSryche@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: King's X questions Message-ID: <eececedd.35abdd0a@aol.com>

    I was wondering where a good King's X site is. I'm jsut starting to get into them, and I wanna know more about them. Also I was wondering if Dogman was any good, cause I'm gonna order it really soon, and I want to know if I'm making a mistake. Thanks, bye!

    "I used to be in a barber shop quartet back in Skokie, IL...."

    Tony the C

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    Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:40:56 +0200 From: fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: true dreamers Message-ID: <v01510100b1d165a8c46f@[194.7.6.140]>

    > CAN YOU YTSEJAMMERS help me out here? Obviously Dream Theater isn't >totally cutting-edge. But they're still the main noticed proponents of

    Cutting-edge? Try Liquid Tension Experiment, the re-definition of music as we know it !!! Which reminds me, anyone know the european release date for Platypus?

    >prog-metal now. We did prog-metal origins really recently. But I hear a >lot of people don't think they are. I don't know why.How can I describe >the difference? I mean, they've had the mainstream attention, without >(and they haven't) sacrificing who they are. Just like Rush. A moment of >silence...

    True. I never thought they could get this far for a prog-band. I've been a DT fan since I&W was released, and over the years DT has meant so much to me, both musically and spiritually. I'm glad they've gotten where they are. They deserve it. Shit, man, you should live here in Belgium, eleven million people and only a handful have heard of DT :-) No mainstream attention here, not any attention :-( , sad ... very sad. Not to mention boring, almost nobody to talk to about this great band, and others. Not one decent radio station, not even local. (Crappy) football and House. That, I'm sad to say, is Belgian culture!

    Anyway, the point is that it doesn't matter if they get mainstream attention, as long as they get some attention. Finally prog is coming out in the open! I've waited all my life for this to happen! More proggers will mean even better music in the future.

    Thank the media for finally getting one braincell! Thank the Dutch for the Sativa Hollandica! Thank Steve Jobs for Macintosh! Thank Skadz for the Ytsejam!

    FiveNgroK

    1001010110100011011000101100110001100101010101010111000101010101001011010101 Random Prog Generator: ....................searching.......................... Result: ..........................The Quest - "Change"....................................... 0101011010001101100010110011000110010101010101011100010101010100101101010110

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    Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:40:59 +0200 From: fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: non-prog music Message-ID: <v01510100b1d1817a4db9@[194.7.6.140]>

    > >hey ye all jammers, > >I'm wondering what you jammers listen to besides prog rock (yes, early

    Hi all,

    These are some of the non-prog bands I listen to:

    Metallica Joe Satriani Steve Vai (sometimes) Toto Tangerine Dream Dave Brubeck Fleetwood Mac Supertramp Iron Maiden ..ans zillions of others, from almost every style of music, except for house and three-minute-hitsingles...

    Top 5 Prog ( in no specific order ):

    Dream Theater The Quest Magellan Rush Fates Warning My own practice tapes :--)

    FiveNgroK

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    Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:41:03 +0200 From: fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Football World Cup France 1998 Message-ID: <v01510101b1d1834ebb7a@[194.7.6.140]>

    >This is game is closer to any rock star and any band. All you have to do >is look at in-sleaves of cd covers, posters and bootleg videos, to notice >that it's in the hearts of most rockers

    What the fuck are you talking about?

    >Soccer, the passion.

    Really? So it's passion that turns these braindead football fans into hooligans? And picking fights with others who are just minding their own business are also acts of passion?

    Soccer, the stupidity.

    FiveNgroK

    1001010110100011011000101100110001100101010101010111000101010101001011010101 Random Prog Generator: ....................searching.......................... Result: ..........................The Quest - "Change"....................................... 0101011010001101100010110011000110010101010101011100010101010100101101010110

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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:40:40 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: new DP/ELP Message-ID: <35abde622a07002@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>

    Responding to the message of <35AA634D.78814836@netvision.net.il> from ytsejam@ax.com:

    > I heard one song from DP's 1996 release (forgot its name) and it seems > cool.

    That would be Parallels, and it's actually not their latest. Deep Purple has a new album out now, the name of which I can't remember (doh). I've heard the first single, and it's not bad, but it's not something I would pay money for either.

    -Brian

    ________________________________________________________________________________ Coleridge on IRC Web: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~hayd0029 ________________________________________________________________________________ NOW PLAYING ON A LIVE REALAUDIO STREAM: Ytsejam Radio. Anti-Corporate, Anti-MTV, Anti-Decency. Info: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~hayd0029/ytseradio ________________________________________________________________________________ "Baseball is like church -- many attend, but few truly understand." - Martin Cox ________________________________________________________________________________

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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:18:49 EDT From: YtseSryche@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Total Request thing on Thursday Message-ID: <9609391e.35abe75a@aol.com>

    I think if we tell everyone we know, we can do this, but we have to get EVERYONE we know to do it!!!!! Thursday, don't forget!!! I want to see this!!!!

    TONYC

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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:41:08 EDT From: WazooDust@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NonProg Stuff Message-ID: <47a4558a.35abec95@aol.com>

    I might as well get in on this too

    Alan Parsons Stevie Ray Vaughn Styx Frank Zappa Sammy Hagar(even w/ VH) Boston Joe Walsh (w/o the Eagles) Vai Satriani Journey Vangelis(go ahead..flame on) Eric Johnson Candlebox Chuck Mangione Toad the Wet Sprocket The Allman Brothers Triumph (Duh.. can't forget them) Chicago, especially w/ Terry Kath Uriah Heep Utopia Planet P Gary Numan (ouch!) Orb

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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:15:32 -0700 From: Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: FII Tour Boot Recommendations Message-ID: <35AC1ED4.56CA@idt.net>

    > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:35:57 -0400 > From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@Sage-Enterprises.com> > To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> > Subject: FII Tour Boot Recommendations > Message-ID: <717B37282A06D2119390006008A18E06021900@GLENLEVIT> > > > Hey, > > Would anyone (Marcel, Nick, Bahr, Felix?) care to post > > comparing and contrasting the currently available FII cd boots > > both for sound quality and track listing? I'm sure we'd all > > like to get the most bang for our buck (at least until > > the LA and Paris shows are available) :) > > > > 1. Marcel's 'De Maaspoort' Den Bosch > > 2. Nicky B's Fasten Your Seatbelts > > 3. Bahr's Welcome to the Wasteland > > 4. OAN's Static Progress > > 5. In Germany 4/18/97 > > 6. Others???

    *Pout* HEY! How come MINE didn't get mentioned? Oh well.... I've got the opening night of the FII tour from New Haven, CT on October 25, 1997 called A Sort Of Homecoming. It's worth a listen, at least! You know how those opening nights go... I think James forgot the lyrics a few times, and came back from a piss break a bit late once too.... Luckily Mike was able to cover....

    John DiBella President/Xanadu Records http://idt.net/~rsch1/index.html

    Dream Theater Tourdate Archive http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/grunge/49/DreamT.html

    * Be EXCELLENT to each other! *

    Bill S. Preston, Esq.

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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:20:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Duel Rec vs. triAxis Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980714171858.9074A-100000@otter.mbay.net>

    Hey peoples, Can anyone tell me the difference between the Mesa Buggie TriAxis and the Duel REc? Sorry to resirect this thread, but you guys have the knowledge. Wellness. Matt B

    ============================================================================ ATTENTION! ATTENTION! ATTENTION! Guitarist in the Santa Cruz/Monterey area of California seeks innovative, experimental, technical, and fun-loving musicians to create works of art and share them with the public. Enquire if interested. mattb@mbay.net ================================================================================= "With Man gone, will there be hope for Gorilla?... With Gorilla gone, will there be hope for Man?" (Daniel Quin) "A dominatrix to the first degree, she'd rather die than set you free, hook line and sinker is what she wants, a nasty bitch she's no debutante." (Mike Portnoy?, Rising Power, Goddess of Pain and Pleasure)

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    Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:38:16 EDT From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: KJLB on new Shadow Gallery album and other stuph Message-ID: <f2aee72b.35abf9fa@aol.com>

    Hey All -

    Here's some very cool news that I haven't seen anyone here mention yet. This was just forwarded to me today, and I just confirmed it at www.shadowgallery.com:

    "Well we can release the names of the Special Guests who appear on Tyranny. There are guest vocals by James Labrie of Dream Theater, D.C. Cooper of Royal Hunt, Laura Jeager, and violins by Paul Choi."

    This should be VERY interesting. September can't get here quickly enough! :-) Hey, while I'm thinking about it, is the new Crimson Glory released overseas yet? If so, howz about a review, people? ;-)

    Onto other stuff...

    [Where to find back YtseJam issues]

    Someone asked this recently, and someone posted a URL sometime ago as well. Here it is again: ftp://ftp.dreamt.org/pub/ytsejam/ Hope this helps.

    [The New Fates Live Album]

    > bonus track for Japan "In Trance"

    Does anyone know what this is? Is it a cover of the Scorps tune or an FW original? Is it studio or live? Inquiring minds want to know...

    Well, I think that's it. By the way, to all you He-Man-Metallica-Haters-Club members out there, this past Sunday's concert at Darien Lake, NY kicked my ass all over the place! Trust me.... Metallica STILL rules!!! And.... for all you Pink Floyd fans out there, Jerry Cantrell put on an impressive opening set of original material mixed with Alice In Chains stuff, but the highlight of his set was when he and his band did a kick-ass rendition of "Dark Side Of the Moon" as their last song. Vey impressive! :-)

    Laterz for now..... Matt T.

    NP: Saviour Machine "Behold a Pale Horse" CD Single

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