YTSEJAM Digest 4063
Today's Topics:
1) re: Chroma Key single
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
2) DT Xmas CD '96 and '97 to sale...
by Bernardo Borghetti <borghetti@netgo.com.br>
3) Re: You want an intelligent debate? Read.
by TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
4) Fates Warning Tribute album effort
by Michael_R_Kizer@csc.com
5) non-prog and Michael Hedges
by "Ted D. Rossier" <trossier@mhs.oklaosf.state.ok.us>
6) Re: KMFDM
by Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
7) Re: Sports, Music, Media
by "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk>
8) fave bands part XXXVIII
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
9) new DP/ELP
by Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4059
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
11) Can someone tell me...
by Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4061
by Jason Earle <026831@bah.com>
13) the 'M' band...
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
14) COOL SITE..DT stuff there.
by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
15) recommendations
by Devs0432@aol.com
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4060
by WazooDust@aol.com
17) Re: non-prog music
by "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com>
18) SSSputnik, Queensryche
by "Schnipp" <schnipp@vossnet.com>
19) King's X/GC/Fates
by "Andrew Garinger" <agaringer@siweb.com>
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:54:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: Chroma Key single
Message-ID: <19980713175453.12721.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com>
Somebody had mentioned in an earlier jam that "Colorblind" from the
new Chroma Key disc could be on the radio. I agree that some of these
songs could be radio hits (not sure what station though), my first
choice for airplay would be "Undertow". It's just so catchy, you can
get into it on the second listen.
In case anyone is interested in the "long" review of Chroma Key, it's
now on a webpage at:
http://www.dreamt.org/ytsemirror/takethetime.html
my .02, BH
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:48:37 -0600
From: Bernardo Borghetti <borghetti@netgo.com.br>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT Xmas CD '96 and '97 to sale...
Message-ID: <35A6FCB3.D7BD652E@netgo.com.br>
Anybody here know where can I buy or who can sell to me the '96 and '97
Xmas CD?
What do you think about we write here all DT CDs we have. A list of each
user of the mailinglist. Soon I'll put my list here. :)
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:40:58 -0400
From: TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: You want an intelligent debate? Read.
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980713144058.006b980c@mail.clemson.edu>
>Well, I dunno about THAT one...but integral of f(y) = 2x dx = x^2.
would it not be integral of f(x) = 2x dx? the integral of f(y) = 2x dy is
0. and the integral of f(y) = 2x dx makes no sense, i think. but then, i'm
only taking calculus 106 now. So what would i know. I wonder if stephen
hawking is on the list? wouldn't that be cool. (yes, i'm doing this
unpurpose. just like the grammar.)
>Seriously. Check it out in last April's issue.
Apparently, JM is now writing a column for Bass Player. I didnot know that,
not until i picked up the latest issue, which, apart from that, what caught
my eye was the article: "Bulgarian Wedding Bass: World's Most Difficult
Music?" Heheh. that shit is fucked up. Up there with Spastic Ink. Moo.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:39:53 -0700
From: Michael_R_Kizer@csc.com
To: fates@listservant.com, ytsejam@ax.com, AGAFUHDUH@aol.com
Subject: Fates Warning Tribute album effort
Message-ID: <07256640.00660EBF.00@cscmail.csc.com>
Apparently, some bands are trying to get a tribute album put together, see
their web page at:
http://members.aol.com/GrrGlass/FatesTribute.htm if you are interested in
participating.
~Mike
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:11:20 -0500
From: "Ted D. Rossier" <trossier@mhs.oklaosf.state.ok.us>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: non-prog and Michael Hedges
Message-ID: <002601bdae89$a70c5dc0$0e7f57cc@TEDR.oklaosf.state.ok.us>
Thought I'd come back out of lurk mode to contribute:
I had the privilege of seeing Michael Hedges live twice. Absolutely
brilliant and incredible. He described his own music as "acoustic thrash".
It fits. :)
Non-prog list:
80s Metallica
The Gathering
Mortification
Believer
Saviour Machine
Chroma Key
Soundgarden
Pearl Jam
Bush
Veruca Salt
Seven Mary Three
Creed
Live
Green Day
Third Eye Blind
Alanis Morissette
The Nixons
And from the old days:
REM
The Fixx
Midnight Oil
B-52s
Japan/David Sylvian
Duran Duran
Adam & the Ants
Tears for Fears
Ozzy
Dio
Sabbath
Maiden
Triumph
Saxon
Def Leppard
Zeppelin
Rainbow
Eagles/Don Henley
Zebra
The Who
CSN
Resurrection Band
Jerusalem
Sweet Comfort
And from the *really* old days :) :
Mamas & Papas
The Hollies
Beach Boys
Beatles
The Byrds
Billy Joel
Simon & Garfunkel
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:08:01 +0300
From: Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: KMFDM
Message-ID: <35AA5B11.1F5C3B1B@netvision.net.il>
Max Amundo wrote:
> im a dork
>
Well, at least he adimts...
Max,
Try grouping several topics into one message... you presently take up
about 50% of the jam...
Laterz,
-- ----------------------------------------------------------------- | Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il> aka Kurush | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247 | | | | Keyboard player | computer programmer | high-school attendee | ------------------------------------------------------------------ BUT I GOT A KRYSTAL BOL! (Frank Zappa, Cosmik Debris, ')
Check out the samples of me playing on my page
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:06:17 +0100 From: "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Sports, Music, Media Message-ID: <01bdae91$5039d420$LocalHost@elydian>
> At last the footballs finished!
/me sighs with relief.
> At least the people in the US have a bit more choice over sports, in > the UK if you don't like football (drink lager and like Oasis) people > think your a bit strange.
And that is not an exaggeration in any way. This is how fucked up most of the British public are these days. I don't fit into any of the above three categories, which is in my opinion, a good thing. But the crazy thing is: The majority of people I know just don't respect my opinions on most things just because of that (mainly because of the exclusion from the Oasis thing). If you were to run around the streets of Britain, picking off random people with a shotgun, then you could be happy in saying that probably 90% of the people deserved it. This may be slightly harsh, but you get my point.
> I really don't mind any sport (or music) if it is kept in proportion > with everything else and not forced down my throat by every television > channel (all 4 of them in my case). Last night when the final match > was on TV they were showing the match on two channels and it was the > same bloody shots, needless to say I turned it off.
All four channels are full of shit nowadays anyway.
> I think sport is a bit like music, you can make anything popular if > you market it correctly e.g. Spice Girls, Football.
Yeah, it just shows you how stupid most people are; bloody puppets. eg. "Hey Dave, you heard the latest hip indie thing to do?", "What's that Phil?", "Jumping off of cliffs, the energy rush is amazing, and it's really worth the last 5 seconds of your life. You up for it?", "Yeah, why not."
> Why do footballers get millions of pounds for kicking a bag of wind > about when netball players get bugger all for throwing the same bag of > wind about ??
I don't know, it's the same as all this 'Cool Brittania' shit. MPs must like football and Oasis otherwise the dumb majority will vote the other way. What a shit country. I mean, have you heard this latest crap about shit indie bands who can't get real jobs, being encouraged to keep their IQs below the 40 mark, and stay on the dole, because the government are going to push them extra money. I mean, what a joke. Real musicians are at least semi-intelligent and aren't your average lager swilling football lout, but oh no, the government can't see this. You might as well push money to criminals and drug addicts and have done with it.
> A happy (for the first time for 6 weeks) UK Jammer. > > David C.
I've had my moan, I'll just go and vomet now.
========================================== In a world which your mind controls, belief is reality. -- E-Mail: elydian@netcomuk.co.uk -- ICQ UIN: 1491970 -- Web Pages: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~elydian/ ==========================================
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:23:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net> To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: fave bands part XXXVIII Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980713152031.9967A-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
All these posts about what else we DT freaks listen to are really amusing me. You people limit yourselves so much....:)
My own list is way too long to fit here. If you really want to know that badly check out the webpage I wrote up in a fit of creativity (and when I had a lot more time on my hands).
http://www.negia.net/~carter/tastes.html
What *I'd* like to see is either Kevin Madden or Chris Ptacek or D-Man (all three with huge musical collections) list what else *they* listen to. That ought to be interesting...they probably have say 2000 CDs between them.
Ta, Phil
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:43:09 +0300 From: Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: new DP/ELP Message-ID: <35AA634D.78814836@netvision.net.il>
Hi there,
You know, I suddenly figured it out : if DP and ELP are touring, they must have a new album. so I checked and they do.
I heard one song from DP's 1996 release (forgot its name) and it seems cool.
but I didn't listen to any new ELP. Now, how are the new ELP albums? anything like Rush's "Test for Echo" or did they kept the original style?
Thanx,
-- ----------------------------------------------------------------- | Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il> aka Kurush | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247 | | | | Keyboard player | computer programmer | high-school attendee | -----------------------------------------------------------------
- BUT I GOT A KRYSTAL BOL! (Frank Zappa, Cosmik Debris, ')
Check out the samples of me playing on my page
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:31:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4059 Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980713162836.79644B-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> My faves, in no particular order (there's alot so I won't separate by line) Giant, Glass Tiger ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
Color me impressed! "Innocent Days" (Giant) and "Don't Forget Me When I'm Gone" (GT) are two of my all-time favorite songs.
Richie
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:44:40 +0200 From: Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl> To: DT mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Can someone tell me... Message-ID: <35AA71B8.1C8F@wxs.nl>
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:57:14 +0000 From: Jason Earle <026831@bah.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4061 Message-ID: <35AA3C6A.252244D7@bah.com>
> Well, I dunno about THAT one...but integral of f(y) = 2x dx = x^2.
<snipped engineering dorkiness>
Oops. That should be x^2 +C (any constant), to be purely (mathematically) correct. You see? YOU SEE? THIS IS WHY I HATE SNOT NOSE DINGBATS THAT POST ABOUT HOW SMART THEY ARE ON THE FRIGGIN' JAM!!!!! NOT SO SMART NOW, ARE YOU MR... hey, wait a second - I wrote that...
Doh!
My CD PLayer has: Loads of DT Yngwie Malmsteen Rush Queensryche Tom Petty Warren Zevon (yes, yes, YES!!!) Kyle's mom is a big fat bitch in D minor Alice Cooper Bangles (kiss my ass, I like dem!) Ozzy
I'm sure I'm forgetting someone...
Cheers,
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:04:49 EDT From: DragynLMC3@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: the 'M' band... Message-ID: <24b198e1.35aa7672@aol.com>
I was just wondering if anyone from the NY-NJ-wherever area is going to be at the M*t*ll*c* concert at Giants Stadium on July 17th? Me and my cousin are going to be there so I was just wondering... (hey at least I didn't ask about soccer) :}
~Lisa DragynLMC3@aol.com http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/DragynsLair.html A great many people mistake opinions for thoughts. -Herbert Prochnow
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:50:55 -0700 From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: COOL SITE..DT stuff there. Message-ID: <199807132148.RAA12575@camel8.mindspring.com>
Check out this auction site. It has Dream Theater stuff there. and much much more. Pretty cool. You can get some good deals too! No... I don't work for the company, just found some cool stuff out there.
it is:
www.ebay.com
see ya
todd s
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:18:33 EDT From: Devs0432@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: recommendations Message-ID: <133be4f9.35aa87ba@aol.com>
>BTW I need to know what I band I should check out for prog-metal. I'm >thinking of Symphony X and Empty Tremor, but I'll have to order them through >CDNow and they are imports. Any other prog-metal bands I should check out?
Symphony X is definitely a great band. You should check them out. Heavy, heavy grooving sound - try blasting this in your car stereo with the bass up! mwahahaha!!!!!!! I have to order a CD or two of theirs for myself. And if metal is your thing, definitely check out Blind Guardian, particularly their newest release, Nightfall in Middle-Earth. QUALITY CD!!
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:23:19 EDT From: WazooDust@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4060 Message-ID: <b3dd5b13.35aa88d9@aol.com>
Hey AL, thanks for bringing Uriah Heep up... excellent group Also, does anyone remember Todd Rundgrens 'Utopia'... well worth checking out. and as far as Alan Parsons.. He used to be very progressive and just dropped it for some odd reason or other.. Check out 'I Robot' or 'Tales of Mystery and Imagination' and know why he's labeled prog... BTW He's excellent live too
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:34:42 PDT From: "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: non-prog music Message-ID: <19980713223447.20904.qmail@hotmail.com>
>I'm wondering what you jammers listen to besides prog rock (yes,
Rock: Extreme Nuno Van Halen Steve Vai Satriani Blues Saraceno Faith No More Alanis Morrisette Sheryl Crow Motley Crue Poison G n' R
Pop: Madonna "Ray Of Light" (The last one) Seal
Jazz: Michel Camilo Chick Corea Seis del Solar Irakere
These are the ones that just came to my mind.
Ernesto
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:57:39 +0200 From: "Schnipp" <schnipp@vossnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: SSSputnik, Queensryche Message-ID: <01bdaeb1$a26340e0$4f8535d4@schnipp>
hi, you progers, anybody that knows Dizzy Mizz Lizzy apart from me?? Somebody mentioned Symphony X at Marx on October 6th. Can you confirm that? What's the source??
Nicholas Gianotti, as far as I know Sigue Sigue are working on a revival album...
OK, of all Queensryche posts everybody seems to like Mindcrime best. If QR is prog (actually I don't care, I'd call it GOOD MUSIC), Empire was my entrance and is still the QR album I like best. One of my TOP 5, even if I count the DT albums seperately...Now I got the QR-QR album from 198? (there are about 4 different numbers on it and I haven't really figured out the right one(wo)), I put it om and thought: Overkill? Sorry guys and I'm open for flames, I bought Ten years of decay for fun some years ago, but the sound is VERY similar and the voice... Brother Louie's back in town. Just my 2 cents (I learned a new idiom) and a last question: Seriously, how are the studies? Is the universe expanding are the opposite?
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 19:30:32 -0400 From: "Andrew Garinger" <agaringer@siweb.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: King's X/GC/Fates Message-ID: <002501bdaeb6$4adfbe20$37f14bcf@agaringer2.tcimet.net>
I don't think anyone else has mentioned this... King's X has a new = album, "Tape Head", coming out in October. Ty's solo project, Platypus, = and Doug's solo project, Poundhound, will be coming out in August. Best = of all, King's X will be headlining a tour with Galactic Cowboys and = Fates Warning! This is direct from the official web site!
Andrew
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