YTSEJAM Digest 4062
Today's Topics:
1) "Ytsejam for classical piano" mp3
by Bungle <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
2) Re: my 2 cents, actually it's more like 1 cent
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
3) Re: non-prog music
by krackley@weidmuller.com
4) Recent treds
by ytsejam@iname.com
5) Recent treds
by ytsejam@iname.com
6) Yeesh......
by "Johnson, Steve" <steve.johnson@mcd.com>
7) Continuing to root out crap....
by "Johnson, Steve" <steve.johnson@mcd.com>
8) Sports...
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
9) DT cd's for sale
by Scott Cook <skooc@earthlink.net>
10) Stephen Hawking & Korg X3
by James A Tedesco <jtedesco@ic.sunysb.edu>
11) Re: non-prog favorites
by TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
12) Re: Non Prog... Oh, and some Prog too.
by TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
13) Re: FII boots...
by AEllis1222@aol.com
14) America sucks!
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
15) groups of musicians who are not considered to be "prog" that we l
by "Nowik, George" <NowikG@data-io.com>
16) Re: non-prog favorites
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
17) Re: non-prog favorites
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
18) T-Shirts
by Markus Tenberge <markus.tenberge@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
19) Forgetful Old Man's Disease and Shaky People Syndrome.
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
20) Re: Metropolis part II ?
by MentolPyro@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:56:05 +0200
From: Bungle <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: "Ytsejam for classical piano" mp3
Message-ID: <35AA11F5.8102A84C@speed.eik.bme.hu>
Hi there,
check out my Ytsejam cover for piano at:
http://www.icon.hu/~serenity
under the "gift" frame... an let me know your opinion.
Cheers,
Bungle
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:44:15 -0400
From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: my 2 cents, actually it's more like 1 cent
Message-ID: <35AA0F2F.7DEB5C7E@caribe.net>
META SECTION wrote:
> -- Will someone tell me what this mailing list is called please..... oh,
> it's called ytsejam. That stands for DREAM THEATER and music if I am
> not mistaken. Ok, now that I have settled the purpose of this list and
> the reason I and all the other fans joined I can now say, this is not
> called the WORLD CUP SOCCER mailing list. I don't normally get pissed
> but c'mon. Sports are are something that are praised the world over 10
> times more than progressive music. We all joined this list to learn
> more about DT and related music. and if you post about music and add
> sports at the end, that is cool. but I will flip if I ever see another
> friggin' post about soccer or the such. it doesn't belong here. I
> thought maybe KorgX3 had settled this for us but apparently not. I
> STRONGLY SUGGEST ANYONE WHO HAS THE URGE TO POST SPORTS ONLY CONTENT BE
> PUBLICLY HUMILIATED AND STONED.
Hear Hear Layne! ...not only because of the reasons you gave him, but
because in most sports, when you have people from different parts of the
world/country/state whatever.. theyll have different favorite teams and
everyone know sports is as heated topic of discussion as politics or
religion or even music (that "M" band comes to mind...)
In the stream of consciousness
There is a river crying
Living comes much easier
Once we admit , We're dying.
Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service
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Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:06:18 -0400
From: krackley@weidmuller.com
Subject: Re: non-prog music
Message-ID: <199807131406.KAA00160@mail.weidmuller.com>
Here's my non-prog list:
Tangerine Dream
KISS
The Nylons
Metallica (even the LOAD stuff)
STYX
Stryper (let the hate mail begin)
Anything with Terry Bozzio
Kevin Rackley
Official Soul Reason Website
http://members.aol.com/rackleyk/
"And I try to burn the world
With words I cannot say
Don't you wish that I had better things for you
I know it's not enough to play
The games have all become a myriad
Of tears and who's to blame
No one's led you to the promised land
But you weren't lead astray"
- Soul Reason - Stop the Rain
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:00:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: ytsejam@iname.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Recent treds
Message-ID: <199807131400.KAA14454@web02.globecomm.net>
First off, even if some of you people out there don't like sucker, sorry =
socker, dosn't mean that everybody hates the game, all you have to do is =
scroll on down, and you finished with, same as many other topics.=20
The one thing we all on this mailing list got in common is pretty obvious=
, except from that, i could be talking to Hitler and Theresa.=20
Next: When will we see the end of Bahr Wars, when will they make Bahr 200=
0? Maybe even Bahr - The Next Generation?=20
Bahr Wars is a rip-off, It was a triologi in Cheers, with Gary Old Town T=
avern.=20
Is Pink Floyd truly prog, I call it music in lack of a better term, but t=
hey were rockers, maybe still are.=20
Come to mind only Money, Mother and some others from the Wall has the nec=
essery change of beat 3/4-4/4 5/8-12/8 and so on.=20
Nevertheless, I listen to them, Queen, Dire Straits, Mark Knoplfer, David=
Gilmore, Roger Waters and the norweigian band Autopulver( comming to BeN=
eLux and Germany soon) besides DT. And my pal MrStingle feeds me with Fat=
es and Rush.=20
Have you RUSH fans though of the great record Peart could write, if he ge=
t's back to him old self? Just a thought, don't flame me, but think about=
it.=20
J=F8rgen Bakken
62 59 50 80=20
91 74 77 98=20
www.angelfire.com/az/jazz4
"Find all you need in your mind-
if you take the time."
Take The Time-Dream Theater-Images and Words-1992
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:01:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: ytsejam@iname.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Recent treds
Message-ID: <199807131401.KAA14589@web02.globecomm.net>
First off, even if some of you people out there don't like sucker, sorry =
socker, dosn't mean that everybody hates the game, all you have to do is =
scroll on down, and you finished with, same as many other topics.=20
The one thing we all on this mailing list got in common is pretty obvious=
, except from that, i could be talking to Hitler and Theresa.=20
Next: When will we see the end of Bahr Wars, when will they make Bahr 200=
0? Maybe even Bahr - The Next Generation?=20
Bahr Wars is a rip-off, It was a triologi in Cheers, with Gary Old Town T=
avern.=20
Is Pink Floyd truly prog, I call it music in lack of a better term, but t=
hey were rockers, maybe still are.=20
Come to mind only Money, Mother and some others from the Wall has the nec=
essery change of beat 3/4-4/4 5/8-12/8 and so on.=20
Nevertheless, I listen to them, Queen, Dire Straits, Mark Knoplfer, David=
Gilmore, Roger Waters and the norweigian band Autopulver( comming to BeN=
eLux and Germany soon) besides DT. And my pal MrStingle feeds me with Fat=
es and Rush.=20
Have you RUSH fans though of the great record Peart could write, if he ge=
t's back to him old self? Just a thought, don't flame me, but think about=
it.=20
So Max you got yours I hope, sorry I didn't have 50 for you but what coul=
d you possibly have lost.=20
Bye for now, and KorgX3, wash you mouth.=20
J=F8rgen Bakken
62 59 50 80=20
91 74 77 98=20
www.angelfire.com/az/jazz4
"Find all you need in your mind-
if you take the time."
Take The Time-Dream Theater-Images and Words-1992
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:02:20 -0500
From: "Johnson, Steve" <steve.johnson@mcd.com>
To: "Dream Theater@ytsejam@ax.com@SMTP@McGate" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Yeesh......
Message-ID: <c=US%a=ATTMAIL%p=McDonald's%l=677CF6D25E1AD211892B0060B01A815A@oakbrook005.mcd.com>
KorgX3 sent this in, I believe. No offense, obviously.....
>Bryan Adams, Alias.............Type O Negative, Steve Vai,
>Van Halen, and
>
*************************************
>John Tesh, Yanni
*************************************
Now, I know this may seem like adding fuel to a dead horse, but I just
don't get soulless music. Tesh and Yanni are so bombastic; like a
musical Barbara Walters special....
Away from the bashing, here's a little praising. I've seen mention of a
number of great guitar players on this list since I joined back in 1994
(about the 500s). My band is opening for one this Tuesday at the Double
Door in Chicago. It's acid jazz and the guitarist is Charlie Hunter
with his new band Pound for Pound. Anyone with thoughts on him? He
plays an 8-string and carries both bass and rhythm lines at the same
time. Magnificent! Check him out if you like virtuoso work that has
real soul.
Steve
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:10:49 -0500
From: "Johnson, Steve" <steve.johnson@mcd.com>
To: "Dream Theater@ytsejam@ax.com@SMTP@McGate" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Continuing to root out crap....
Message-ID: <c=US%a=ATTMAIL%p=McDonald's%l=107EF6D25E1AD211892B0060B01A815A@oakbrook005.mcd.com>
>Misc:
>Flim and the BB's - Kenny G - Mannheim Steamroller - Andreas Vollenweider.
>This is far from all I listen to, this stuff just gets into the regular
rotation.
>I hate Country music (makes my butt pucker) Rap & Hip Hop SUCKS!
>I'm 36 years old, I have been a music fan since I was about 5. I have
surrounded
>myself with $30,000.00 + of stereo gear, and my heart belongs to Prog.
This guy spends thousands of dollars on gear, condemns whole categories
of music and then spends money on KENNY G!!!! _KENNY G!!!!!_ Are you
36 or 66? If you hold your breath long enough, like Mr. G, maybe you
can rid yourself of this disease.
On the DT-tip....rumor has it Mike P. was gonna clinic at Guitar Center
in Chicago's Lincoln Park soon. But, Mike, I didn't see this on your
list of upcoming clinic dates. HELP!!!!!! What's the answer?
Steve
Support quality music!
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:07:54 -0400
From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Sports...
Message-ID: <413835162AC9CF11AE9602070116CC5E790626@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
> STRONGLY SUGGEST ANYONE WHO HAS THE URGE TO POST SPORTS ONLY
> CONTENT BE
> PUBLICLY HUMILIATED AND STONED.
>
Aw, man, don't start the friggin' drug thread again... :)
Mike
Division
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:12:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Cook <skooc@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT cd's for sale
Message-ID: <199807131512.IAA18094@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
Hey all!
I'm selling some of my DT cds and wanted to give the jam first
crack at them. Here's what's up for sale and what I'm asking.
When Day & Dream Unite (import, with lyrics) $13
Live At The Marquee (UK import) $15
Hollow Years (German single) $8
Majestic Harmonies $20
Lords Of Sound (2cd) $35
When Dream & Today Unite $20 (not a cd-r clone, original)
Anitquities $20 (not a clone)
Scenes From A Memory $20 (not a clone)
Precious Things $15 (when Bahr started making shitty inserts)
The Darkest of Winters $15 (see PT)
Non-DT, but may be of interest:
Rush - Cygnus $20
Rush - Critical Mass $35 (not a cd-r clone, an original)
If interested, send me an email and I'll give you my address. All prices
include postage to the USA, other countries, please ask and I'll check
with the Post Office.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:29:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: James A Tedesco <jtedesco@ic.sunysb.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Stephen Hawking & Korg X3
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980713112102.23138D-100000@sparky>
So Korg X3 was talking about a problem he had, that people look up to
essentially what boils down to athletic thugs while Stephen Hawking is
fighting Lou Gehrig's disease and reinventing physics.
Here's the irony... LOU GEHRIG's disease. Named after an athlete, a
sports guy.
I have no problem with Korg's points... people should look up to Hawking.
But then there's this rant about how skewed things are with sports. like
it or not, the Ancient Romans loved coming out to watch a good nude
sprint, or see some prisoner get mauled by a lion. Check out nearly any
tribe of people in the world, and they've got some sort of social
entertainment involving kicking or throwing a ball of some sort. It's Lou
Gehrig's disease and not Joe Scientist's Disease because Lou Gehrig is the
high profile guy, the one who stirs something inside us as humans. Yeah,
so he's playing with a ball. It seems to be human nature.
Sports on the jam? I have no idea... I'm enjoying watching you folks
argue this one out. I just thought this was pretty interesting.
--MATt
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:46:40 -0400
From: TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: non-prog favorites
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980713114640.0069b064@mail.clemson.edu>
>My faves, in no particular order (there's alot so I won't separate by line)
>
>Bryan Adams, Alias, Alice in Chains, Anthrax, David Arkenstone, Bad
>Religion, Bon Jovi, Craig Chaquico, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Crash Test
[snip
>Chris and Johnny), John Tesh, Testament, Tyketto, Type O Negative, Steve
>Vai, Van Halen, and Yanni.
no particular order? alphabetical maybe? you have no life. :) Moo.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:58:13 -0400
From: TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Non Prog... Oh, and some Prog too.
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980713115813.006c7904@mail.clemson.edu>
>Alice In Chains - Alice Cooper (old), - Black Sabbath - Boston - The Cars -
>Cheap Trick - Cinderella - Deep Purple - Bruce Dickinson - The Doors - Dire
>Straits - Fleetwood Mac - Heart - Elton John - Krokus - Megadeth - Eddie
Money
>Motley Crue - Aldo Nova - Ted Nugent - Ozzy - Reo Speedwagon - Scorpions -
>AL Stewart - Styx (kinda prog) - 'Til Tuesday - Van Halen (old) - Whitesnake.
what's with all the alphabetical ordered lists? are you guys just looking
through your alphabetically ordered CDs and picking your faves, or do you
have an excel spreadsheet all prepared for this or what?
Oh, and fresh aire rocks.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:13:29 EDT
From: AEllis1222@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: FII boots...
Message-ID: <cff8fdc.35aa322a@aol.com>
<<<"FYS" isn't a full show>>>
Well, actually it is a full show, just a shorter one. All the songs that they
played at the Roxy are on the disc (and more). I was there :-)
Art
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:49:55 -0600
From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: America sucks!
Message-ID: <000201bdae7b$f8fecae0$48f086cc@korgx3>
>Oh,I know where are your manners...
>..nowhere because your mom didn't never teach you...
>
>I hope you will lose early your fucking head.!!
Too late already did. It fell off not long after I slipped it into your
mom's rotten snatch.
(Oh, some people never fucking learn...)
--KorgX3 prays that soccerjam will end soon.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:54:14 -0800
From: "Nowik, George" <NowikG@data-io.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: groups of musicians who are not considered to be "prog" that we l
Message-ID: <C7EA264064ACD011BE4500805FC1DCA101B8C958@SATURN.nt.data-io.com>
> > hey ye all jammers,
> >
> > I'm wondering what you jammers listen to besides prog rock
> >
>
hoy. umm..
INXS (sadly and officially no more)
Weird Al
Moxy Fruvous
King Missile
(old) Metallica (well, some people would call them prog. some people
smoke crack too. we can't all be perfect)
Primus
Super Sonic Soul Pimps
ABBA
Tom Waites (er ... progressive, but not "prog". (: )
Billy Ocean
Billy Joel
The Nylons
Fuschia Skies
Extreme
Mr. Bungle
Faith No More
Tangerine Dream
Yanni
Luscious Jackson
Yellow Dog Down (again, sadly no more)
Roger Whittaker (anyone else know who he is? (: )
Spike Jones (40's era, silly.)
i'm sure there's a whole splattering of groups that existed in the 80's
and did lots of the synth-pop things that i used to die for and loved
(ray parker jr. .... (: .. umm .. van halen .. oops, that's not funny
.. err ... you know what i mean) that i can no longer remember. i
wonder who else i forgot that everyone else forgot because the fashions
fade and the checks go ... er .. wait a sec ...
-= norg =-
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:54:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: non-prog favorites
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980713095033.17710C-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
X-Japan, Floater, Ben Folds Five, Metallica (all -- so sue me), Led
Zeppelin, Led Ze... err... Kingdom Come, Lethal, Iced Earth, Jamiroquai,
Japanese Anime Soundtrack Pop & old Pantera (there's a pair for ya! ^_^)
Oh, and Queen. And Planet P Project. And Rage Against The Machine....
and...
--Matt (the list goes on and on and on... ^_^)
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"Saying a band is 'progressive' because they wear pirate shirts and
write songs about the discovery of tungsten, yeah, we made that up."
--Brian Henderson
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:01:21 -0700
From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: non-prog favorites
Message-ID: <35AA3D61.4BB8CFC3@pacbell.net>
I have trouble categorizing music at times, so please forgive
me if you consider anything I list as prog...
Alice In Chains, Megadeth, Conception, Blackmore's Night,
Tori Amos, Loreena McKennitt, and at the risk of Mr. Audet
accusing me of jumping on his bandwagon... The Grassy Knoll
;o)
Lisa Marie "Jessie"
ytsegirl@pacbell.net
http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 19:18:38 -0100
From: Markus Tenberge <markus.tenberge@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: T-Shirts
Message-ID: <199807131714.KAA12655@odin.ax.com>
>...and hopefully if Helloween come down to Aus i
>can buy a whole heap of shirts!! Which brings me to another point : what
kind >of
>merchandise DID they have available at the concerts perhaps those that have
>been
>this tour so far could enlighten us a little?
.. in fact I WILL see them this autumn (whether together with IM or on
their headliner-tour!!) and I would do it as well. If there's anybody
interested please post a message ...
Concerning the last shirts I'll ask a friend who has seen them in D=FCsseldo=
rf
(Ger) ... please hold the line ... :-)
Take care all
Markus
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:32:30 -0600
From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Forgetful Old Man's Disease and Shaky People Syndrome.
Message-ID: <003101bdae84$4c6140c0$48f086cc@korgx3>
>Here's the irony... LOU GEHRIG's disease. Named after an athlete, a
>sports guy.
Yah, but they didn't name it "Some Dead Runner's Disease" did they? You're
beating a dead athlete. They would have named it Lou Gherig's Disease
regardless of his occupation. Technically it's called Amyotrophic Lateral
Sclerosis, or ALS (The same disease that Jason Becker suffers from). It's
just like Alzheimer's or Parkinson's disease, the name is just a tag so
people can distinguish between the others without having to use the extended
medical term.
--KorgX3
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:33:57 EDT
From: MentolPyro@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Metropolis part II ?
Message-ID: <b0fe8002.35aa4506@aol.com>
i recently read an interview with John Myung on this very topic, and i seem to
recall him saying they wrote it and everything (don't remember if they
recorded it or not) but they had no current plans of releasing it on an ep or
at all
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