YTSEJAM Digest 4114
Today's Topics:
1) Favourites
by Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
2) Explorers Club
by Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu>
3) sad songs
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
4) RE: Sad Songs
by RJEN@isma.co.uk
5) Re: Explorers Club
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
6) Re: Treasure Land
by Magnus.Lind@kunskapskretsen.se (Magnus Lind)
7) Re: Sad Songs. (some creepy ones too)
by AL <al@isd.net>
8) Sad Songs
by "MacAusland, Robert: HFX" <MacAusland.Robert@ic.gc.ca>
9) HEAVY sad songs.
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
10) I guess I'm just getting cynical
by NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
11) re : Enchant
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
12) re: sad songs
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
13) Sad song
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
14) Sad song...
by Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
15) Sad Songs..
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
16) October Project, NDTC
by Everett Painter <evpainte@davidson.edu>
17) More cents on LTE
by "AnathemA" <anathema@%ibbs.com>
18) more sad songs...
by Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@legato.com>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 00:14:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Favourites
Message-ID: <19980729071439.13273.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com>
Keyboard Department:
a. There's a Rick Wakeman CD called 'No Earthly Connection' in which
he plays a beautiful, melodic solo in a song called 'The Maker'.
b. Rick Wakeman's "Excerpts from Six Wives of Henry VIII" from
Yessongs, er, really anything from RW
c. Rainbow - Intro to "Tarot Woman" from the album Rainbow Rising,
solo by Tony Carey
d. Eloy - from the 'Planets' album, the song "On the Verge of
Darkening Lights", solo by Hannes Arkona and Hannes Folberth
e. Saga - "Don't Be Late" from 'Silent Knight', solo by Jim Gilmour
f. Thin Lizzy - "Thunder and Lightning" from 'Life-Live', solo by
Darren Wharton
g. Camel - "Ice" from the album 'I Can See Your House From Here',
solo by Kit Katkins
h. Genesis - Meddley from 'Three Sides Live' by Tony Banks
Vocal Department:
a. Rob Halford on Judas Priest's 'Unleashed in the East', intro to
Sinner: "You're in for a surprise, you're in for a shock!"
b. Ronnie James Dio on 'Rainbow Rising', "Stargazer": "Oh, now where
do we goooooooo?..." before the guitar solo
c. James La Brie singing Deep Purple's 'Perfect Strangers'
d. Fish in 'Forgotten Sons': "Minister, Minister, care for your
children!...." and so on until the bit "Amen!!"
e. Jim Morrison singing 'Roadhouse Blues' live, the bit where he
just sings nonsense.
f. Steve Walsh, singing 'Icarus (Borne on Wings of Steel)' from the
album "Masque"
That-that-that's all folks!
Brought to you by the letters BP
NP: ABWH-ABWH
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 01:04:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu>
To: YTSE JAM DIGEST <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Explorers Club
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.980729005423.23567A-100000@viking.dvc.edu>
Man, is everyone keeping tight lipped about this thing or what? I
haven't seen a single review yet since it has been released in the US.
My impressions are that it is heavy and a total shredfest. Can somebody
say, John Petrucci Solo album. That's what this seems like to me, since
like every few minutes he's ripping into another solo. Don't get me
wrong, the music is awesome, but it's a little too much wanking for my
taste. Also, I am a little disappointed with Terry Bozzio's
performance. He rarely just goes nuts like I would have liked him to
do. But I will say that his playing is tasteful, but with everyone going
crazy, why doesn't he? Also, I just had to mention that the guy from
Dali's Dilemma (Matt Bradley?) sounds awesome. I think he should have
gotten a larger share of the vocals, seeing as how the Cairo guy gets the
whole first song which is 16 minutes long, and IMO is the weakest singer
on the CD, while Matt Bradley gets only two verses to sing on Impact 2.
As far as compositions go, Trent Gardner has really done a good job, and
all of the lyrics are definitely meaningful (not historical like his
usual stuff) but actually refering to the state of progressive music,
which I think is cool, but also at the same time preaching the converted.
Well, that's my $.02. Discuss.
Scott
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:15:49 +0300
From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: sad songs
Message-ID: <199807290816.LAA10187@xyz.estcard.ee>
I've just got to add Soundgarden's "Zero Chance" and "Tighter & Tighter"
to the list, plus the best toothache song, "Carry Stress In The Jaw" by
Mr. Bungle. Vai's "Tender Surrender" and Skid Row's "In A Darkened Room"
also make my day.
Raitz,
with nothing to say
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:36:06 +0100
From: RJEN@isma.co.uk
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: Sad Songs
Message-ID: <411074BB57ECD0119E090060974B1F842D974A@email-server.isma.co.uk>
Try any Ultravox for some intense sadness, "Visions In Blue" and
"Lament" spring to mind plus several songs from "Rage In Eden". They all
pluck at the old heart strings.
Shit, I'm no longer an anonymous lurker.
Cheers,
Rhys
(No longer a list virgin)
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 02:00:06 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Explorers Club
Message-ID: <199807290900.CAA12617@gms.gmsnet.com>
>Man, is everyone keeping tight lipped about this thing or what? I
>haven't seen a single review yet since it has been released in the US.
>My impressions are that it is heavy and a total shredfest. Can somebody
>say, John Petrucci Solo album. That's what this seems like to me, since
>like every few minutes he's ripping into another solo. Don't get me
>wrong, the music is awesome, but it's a little too much wanking for my
>taste.
Eh?? So what do you think of Liquid Tension?? I think Age is much more
cohesive than LTE...
>Also, I am a little disappointed with Terry Bozzio's
>performance. He rarely just goes nuts like I would have liked him to
>do. But I will say that his playing is tasteful, but with everyone going
>crazy, why doesn't he?
Everyone knows Bozzio can go nuts... but it's great to hear him play with
feel and tempo once in a while... Impact 1 and 5 have enough psychoticness
by Bozzio...
-The Doc
-- L I S T E N - http://progmetal.gmsnet.com <> drkhoe@gmsnet.com <> "The music's dying, but its epitaph will stay... it's not over yet." - Explorer's Club, AGE OF IMPACT, IMPACT 2 - FADING FAST------------------------------
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:04:04 +0100 From: Magnus.Lind@kunskapskretsen.se (Magnus Lind) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Treasure Land Message-ID: <msg673.thr-7820015b.a2c2a@kunskapskretsen.se>
Hi! I=B4m Mangan Bassman in Treasure Land. Our homepage are now updated with lots of new pics and reviews.We also have a brand new fancorner.Please come on over. We also have a news list.Just write subscribe and send it to: jonas.hornqvist@swipnet.se //Mangan
http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-48707
email Mangan: treasure.land@goteborg.mail.telia.com or jonas.hornqvist@swipnet.se
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 06:13:47 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Sad Songs. (some creepy ones too) Message-ID: <35BF03EA.7AA1B432@isd.net>
I usually don't jump on the bandwagon... But what the hell. I'm not going to echo previous posts, I'm going to drag some things out of the woodwork to see how many of you have heard some of this stuff. I avoided the obvious, and kept this list DT & FW free. Some of these may only borderline sad, but they all stir emotion.
King's X - Goldilox Pat Benatar - Wuthering Heights Aldo Nova - Ball And Chain Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms Alan Parsons Project - Time 'Til Tuesday - On Sunday (I'm not kidding, that's the song title) Eddie Money - One Chance Deep Purple - Child In Time Boston - Amanda Styx - Man In The Wilderness
And the bonus track to tweak the old timers... Bobby Goldsboro - Honey
Now how about a thread on songs that give you the creeps? Not morbid or shocking lyrics, just creative writing.
Deep Purple - Pictures Of Home YES - The Gates Of Delirium The Doors - The End Uriah Heep - The Magician's Birthday Rush - Witch Hunt Queesryche - Suite Sister Mary Alice Cooper - Steven Iron Butterfly - In-A-gadda-Da-Vida Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit Lucifer's Friend - Lucifer's Friend AL Stewart - Life In Dark Water Mannheim Steamroller - Sirens And sooooooo many more. I love em' all!
P.S. Some Type O Negative came to mind right away, but that fell into the morbid category. I can't imagine why.... :)
"Hey Mickey"
Gotcha' again! -- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:14:00 -0400 From: "MacAusland, Robert: HFX" <MacAusland.Robert@ic.gc.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Sad Songs Message-ID: <199807291214.FAA24916@odin.ax.com>
I'd recommend giving Sarah McLachlan's Ben's Song a spin. The four-hanky chorus still tears me up.
And I've always thought the unplugged Tears cover that DT did a while back is worthy of mention
R.
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 05:30:10 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: HEAVY sad songs. Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980729053009.006f24c4@postoffice.syspac.com>
How about some HEAVY sad songs.
To Live is to Die -- Metallica Hollow -- Pantera Lick My Lovepump -- Spinal Tap
Let's not forget, the Spinal Tap song is in D minor... the key that just makes people weep.
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:07:03 +0100 From: NGA <nga@software-ag.de> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: I guess I'm just getting cynical Message-ID: <01BDBB02.8C46C9A0@pcnga.software-ag.de>
Hi all
I've just got to say this:
Am I the only one, or is this 'realism of combat' stuff weird? Combat = scenes would only be realistic if the actors didn't get up again after the take = for the simple reason that they were fucking dead, or had limbs missing, or were = too busy trying to stop their intestines falling out of openings that they = didn't have before the filming started. That, and only that would be realistic. = If that's what you are looking for, just switch on your TVs and watch the news coverage of one of the numerous wars that are currently raging = throughout the world. It's cheaper too - war victims are usually prepared to die = for free, unlike many Hollywood 'stars' (a shame really).
It also strikes me as odd, that some people who have their own very high standards for the music that they consume are prepared to go to the cinema and watch really crappy disaster films featuring these so-called 'stars', films with no real story line, films that just consist of one = special effects 'highlight' after another and which have absolutely = bugger all to do=20 with reality - no realism there either.
I'm out of here for today and going to a burger bar - where's my Uzi?
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Meshuggah - Destroy Erase Improve 'Take a vacation out of my life' - Bill Hicks
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:13:13 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re : Enchant Message-ID: <35BF9E79.4B9@fh-niederrhein.de>
Michael E Patrick@DELCO on 07-27-98 11:23:47 AM wrote :
>Laser's Edge does have Enchant's 'Time Lost' and it's $15. Methinks it's >time to celebrate...and part with $15.
Every prog fan should get "Time Lost" and "A Blueprint Of The World". "Time Lost" is much better than "Wounded" and so is "A Blueprint ...". "Time Lost" contain 1 new, 3 really old (pre Blueprint) and 3 songs from the "Wounded" session. These songs are really great.
Another thing :
As I allready said : The new album "Break" will be released in Europe on 31.08.98. The first edition is a special limited edition which contains a bonus track. The cover totaly sucks. No Enchant font :-(
Btw, Laser's Edge also have EMPTY TREMOR ONLY for 16 $ in their stock ;-) URL: http://www.Jersey.net/~lasercd/progmetal.html Arash -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | The Eyes Of Universe - The Official EMPTY TREMOR Fan Club Site | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1794/ | | | | by Arash and Arman Ashouriha email: ashouria@kr.fh-niederrhein.de | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:13:38 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: sad songs Message-ID: <35BF9E92.45B0@fh-niederrhein.de>
best sad songs
Instrumental songs :
La Petite Fille De La Mer by Vangelis State Of Grace by Liquid Tension Experiment Eve by Dream Theater Oxyegen part 13, Equinoxe part 3, Chronologie part 6, The Last Rendez Vous by Jean Michel Jarre Sorrow by Yngwie Malmsteen
Vocal songs :
These Are The Days Of Our ..., Is This The World We ..., Who wants to live ... by by Queen Space Dye Vest, Learning To Live, Liffting Shadows .. by Dream Theater One Sweet Day by M.Carey and Boys II Men Another Day In Paradise by Phil Collins Driving The Last Spike, Not About Us by Genesis I Will by Bee Gees Coming Back To Live by Pink Floyd Tomorrow by Europe Before The Winter by Startovrius Far Away, The Final Lullaby by Royal Hunt APSOG part 12 by Fates Warning On The Page by Chroma Key Brother by Steve Vai Epitaph by King Crimson Earth Song, Man In The Mirror by Michael Jackson Fragile, Fields Of Gold by Sting The Queen Of The City Of Ice by Shadow Gallery
to name a few ... :-)
NP : Explores Club - The Age Of Impact
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 13:43:06 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: EgoSpamDamnGlazedHamWhamBamThankYouMamGlamJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Sad song Message-ID: <35BF26EA.7A03@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Sara Maclachlan: Hold On
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:42:16 -0500 From: Dave Ware <dware@walker.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Sad song... Message-ID: <B1A22B4F087BD111B317006097939160264F66@BHAM-XCHG.immpower.com>
"Suck My Love Pump" - Nigel, Spinal Tap.
Dave (a Uk Jammer - now in Alabama).
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:05:06 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: Ytsejam Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Sad Songs.. Message-ID: <35BF2C12.C0F03EE7@caribe.net>
Well, this one is not exactly a sad song.. but it always moves me when i listen to it.. its basically the last minute of Freedom of speech... when the guitar leads the outro...wow! Also my vote goes to PJ's Black.. its indeed an awesome song, very moving...also "watching" Jp play TAMP live ( 11/22/97 irving plaza, they did like a mix of the 2 versions, and he seemed to into it after the solo and the ending.. wow... also some parts of scarred just move the hell out of me..
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:14:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Everett Painter <evpainte@davidson.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: October Project, NDTC Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19980729101250.30df8190@phoenix.davidson.edu>
Hi all.....
Wow...AOI is Awesome.
Anyway, someone recently tried to sell me on a band called October Project. I have heard absolutely none of there music. Could you guys please e-mail me with your recommendations. Exactly how would you describe their music?
Thanks in advance...Everett ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________ Everett W. Painter
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:45:33 -0400 From: "AnathemA" <anathema@%ibbs.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: More cents on LTE Message-ID: <TCPSMTP_GEN.9937.9003@bbs.ibbs.com>
> Granted, 3-Minute Warning may not be the most "deep" song ever written, >but for a 30-minute off the cuff jam session, I think it's damn >mpressive. Not only from a technical standpoint, but even the fact that >there ARE certainly distinguishable high and low emotional points. THAT's >impressive.
Are you a musician yourself, and if so what kind? Personnaly I'm a Jazz musician, and playing "off the cuff" is my job description. I was not impressed by the 30 minutes jam. It was a typical 30 minute jam. When I play with my band, we just sit down and jam for the majority of the time - Lasting for HOURS... and if you were that impressed with the jam on LTE, you'd love my shit. It's funny impressed people are with improv'ing
BTW: I'm not at ALL bashing any of the players on LTE. They are all fucking amazing. I just don't like the album.... or portnoys new hair ======================================== Note: Remove the % when replying, or click this if your mailer supports it --> anathema@ibbs.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send me a quick message viq icq by pointing your browser at http://www.ibbs.com/anathema (or click that if your browser supports it...) ========================================
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 07:46:13 -0700 From: Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@legato.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: more sad songs... Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980729074613.00b1baa0@mail.legato.com>
These are not sad "prog" songs (this may piss a few people off on this list) but might I add:
Ave Maria Danny Boy
Those always bring tears to my eyes.........
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