YTSEJAM digest 3980

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Date: Thu Jun 11 1998 - 22:23:29 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 3980

    Today's Topics:

      1) Blues Sarceno
     by Tom Cox <lexine@rollanet.org>
      2) Artension - Pheonix Rising (no DTC)
     by Scott Fuller <spacedye@acay.com.au>
      3) go the way I go
     by Raivo Hool <raitz@saba.jrnl.ut.ee>
      4) HY jap
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
      5) Queensryche
     by "David M. Campbell" <campbell@dickinson.edu>
      6) Calling Satu Reunanen!
     by "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
      7) blech
     by Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
      8) Re: blech
     by Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org>
      9) Re: FAQ, Discog, Bio, John Wesley
     by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
     10) Re: DT/ELP/DP in San Francisco (true DTC)
     by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
     11) Amazon records
     by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
     12) you all wanna hear that beat, right? bring that beat back!
     by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
     13) Re: FAQ, Discog, Bio, John Wesley
     by belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
     14) Re: DT/ELP/DP in San Francisco (true DTC)
     by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
     15) Jason Becker
     by someone@enteract.com
     16) Dogs with bumblebees in their mouths
     by "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
     17) Re: Dogs with bumblebees in their mouths
     by Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu>
     18) Re: Dogs with bumblebees in their mouths
     by Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org>
     19) (NDTC) The Black Crowes
     by Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org>
     20) Re: Jason Becker recovering?
     by Calvin6S@aol.com
     21) Re: Dogs with bumblebees in their mouths
     by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:30:56 -0500
    From: Tom Cox <lexine@rollanet.org>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Blues Sarceno
    Message-ID: <357FA3CF.6423@rollanet.org>

    Does anyone out there know where I can track down the Blues Sarceno
    "Plaid" CD? Some bastard stole mine a while back and I really want to
    get it again. Can't seem to find it anywhere, or I'm looking in the
    wrong place...

    Thanks,

    Tom Cox

    lexine@rollanet.org

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:14:18 +1000
    From: Scott Fuller <spacedye@acay.com.au>
    To: Ytsejam Digest <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Artension - Pheonix Rising (no DTC)
    Message-ID: <357FADFA.D6EE3A96@acay.com.au>

    My mate leant me this CD recently, and for only a few listenings, I seem
    to be liking this CD. The band is quite keyboard based, but still with
    some good 'balls and chunk' :)

    Anyone else heard anything from them? If ppl want, I could possibly
    upload a mp3 of one song to Dr Mosh's site...

    Scott

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:04:37 +0300 (EEST) From: Raivo Hool <raitz@saba.jrnl.ut.ee> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: go the way I go Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980611140239.4326B-100000@saba.jrnl.ut.ee>

    To those who are concerned, I'm unsubscribing for a couple of weeks because being in Budapest doesn't really allow me to regularly check my inbox in Estonia. Be seeing you here on June 16. Some Dream band will be playing. :-)

    Raitz

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 05:12:25 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: HY jap Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C34170A3C7@ms.kallback.com>

    Amazon.com has the jap hollow years single for $18.99 or so. also spree.com is having a buy 3 get 1 free cd sale.

    fyi

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:47:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "David M. Campbell" <campbell@dickinson.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Queensryche Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980611083921.27477A-100000@alpha.dickinson.edu>

    'Ryche has indeed changed over the last 15 years. They used to be my favorite band (I even have a tattoo of the tri-ryche on my arm!), but was extremely disappointed with "Promised Land" and "Hear..." IMHO, "Warning" and "Rage" were THE benchmark albums for progressive metal. Goeff Tate is truly a unique vocalist; anyone who thinks he is "just another screechy singer" hasn't listened to him much and should have their hearing checked. Seriously, this guy is in a league of his own.

    I think they bit hard on the alternative scene at some point along the way and destroyed their defining sound. Clearly, their best work was done in the 1980's. Also, what's all this dissing of "Rage?" I think it is their best album! The production is totally over the top, with big sounds and totally maddened vocals complete with heavy doses of effects. It was put together very well. How about songs like "Walk in the Shadows," "I Dream In Infrared," "Gonna Get Close to You," "Killing Words," "Screaming in Digital," "Chemical Rebellion" or "I Will Remember?" These are great tunes.

    Dave

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 05:58:03 PDT From: "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Calling Satu Reunanen! Message-ID: <19980611125803.8704.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Sorry to bring this to the jam but I have no other choice...

    Satu Reunanen!If you are reading this, e-mail me!

    -VMR-

    ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:48:32 -0400 From: Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: blech Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980611094832.0069e930@scott.skidmore.edu>

    Lisa, I was talking about chicks in general and getting respect, not you. :} It's still a "man's world," for the most part, and we have to act certain ways to get a decent amount of proper respect....

    On a completely different note...I'm looking forward to get my 2-CD DT boot When Dream and James Unite, which I'm making my mom give me for my birthday. Anyone have this set? I actually found it in a local CD shop.... Anyway...I'm bored up here at school...javascript, macromedia programming, and reading zillion-page journal articles tends to make one bored....

    Erica

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erica Bonomi, ebonomi@skidmore.edu Deedlit or Deedo on irc.dreamt.org 2112 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.skidmore.edu/~ebonomi/ Check here for the mp3 of the week! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:04:52 +0000 From: Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: blech Message-ID: <01IY3S3EDUXK91VTR7@carleton.edu>

    > On a completely different note...I'm looking forward to get my 2-CD DT > boot When Dream and James Unite, which I'm making my mom give me for my > birthday. Anyone have this set? I actually found it in a local CD

    Isn't that what Mike Bahr originally titled WDATU? I hope some boot company didn't make it a 2-disc and jack up the price. That'd suck. I'd compare the track listing with the Prism Records page if I were you...

    id

    "women who act... extravagant" hehehe...

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:51:19 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: FAQ, Discog, Bio, John Wesley Message-ID: <01BD9563.13679BA0@232.rotterdam1.gironet.nl>

    Dr. Mosh wrote:

    > Before proofreading..., Mark Bredius said:

    Proofreading is for losers. ;-)

    >> That'll be fixed as soon as Pat's new version goes public. >> I can't edit the FAQ, not even to update the name of it's >> maintainer, because I only mirror it. Simple as that. > > Are you trying to say something, Mark? :)

    Are you trying to put words in my mouth, Dino? :) _____

    So what's up with all those off topic posts ! For Skadz's sake, talk about Dream Theatre, because I need more stuff for my website "Dream Theatre - Under A Rumour Mill". ;-)

    Seriously, this list isn't so bad. A lot of the info I've got on UACM originates from the 'Jam (of course, all info gets double checked before it's published).

    My point is, if there's something going on with DT, it'll make it's way to the 'Jam... And meanwhile, we can pretty much talk about anything we want. If something turns into a thread, there's obviously enough interest in discussing that particular topic. And if that topic doesn't interest you personally, so be it... That is why they invented the Page Down key. :-)

    Anyway... if you are looking for specific DT information, check out the URL in my sig. Find all you need on my site if you Take The Time. ;-)

    Oh... and if you're asking yourself "how the hell does he align those paragraphs so neatly", I *swear* that happens by itself. ;-)

    Mark Bredius ____________________________________________________________ Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org * http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: 06-10-1998

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:16:57 -0700 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT/ELP/DP in San Francisco (true DTC) Message-ID: <358002F9.3AB89273@pacbell.net>

    Charoenkwan Luesumphan wrote: > > Bay Area jammers DO NOT forget to go get yourself the ticket of the > DT/ELP/DP show at the Warfield (Aug 28). > > The tix will go on sale at BASS on this Sunday, June 14 at 10 a.m. > > If you do not want to pay for the service charge, go to buy the tix > at the Fillmore box office. It's opened at 10 a.m. on Sunday only.

    Wow, the tickets are going on sale already?? Does that seem a bit early to anyone else, or am I in a freaky time warp all by myself?

    Hey sis, did you really mean "Fillmore" box office, or did you mean the Warfield box office ? It's entirely possible that they could sell tickets for the Warfield (I guess), it just seems a little odd to me, so that's why I'm double checking.

    Deedlit wrote: > > Lisa, I was talking about chicks in general and getting respect, not you. > :} It's still a "man's world," for the most part, and we have to act > certain ways to get a decent amount of proper respect....

    Ahhhh... well okay then ;o) Sorry, I was just confused because you quoted part of my post. Aaaaanyway... Mosh is still missing his crackpipe and he wants it back, so if anyone knows where it is, please email him.

    I have to go now because Carol is still bugging me for that pie.

    ;o)

    Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl _________________________________________ THOUGHTS - The Spock's Beard Mailing List http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard/ _________________________________________ The #Ytse Mirror - #ytsejam news & gossip http:/www.dreamt.org/ytsemirror/

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:26:27 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Amazon records Message-ID: <199806111728.KAA03766@cats.ucsc.edu>

    Well, Amazon.com has opened a record store. ANybody else check it out? They have a "progressive rock" section.

    The Bad News: Their "concept album" section under Prog Rock includes things like Tommy, Yellow Submarine, and other things that aren't really prog.

    The Cood News: They do have Op:MC and Empire listed there, as well as things like Thick as a Brick, Tales, Close to the Edge, etc.

    The Cool news: Their Progressive Rock essentials page lists Images & Words!

    ~Chris

    __ /\ __ Chris Oates: aspect@cats.ucsc.edu __\/__\/__ +---- \_||_/ | "Still awake, I continue to move along, cultivating my | ./__||__\ | own nonsense" -Dream Theater, "Trial of Tears" | // \ | \\ ----+ \| http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:43:46 -0400 From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: you all wanna hear that beat, right? bring that beat back! Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980611134346.007a67f0@pop3.afn.org>

    Speaking of cd-r boots, any sylvian or fripp fans on this list? I'm wondering if anyone reputable out there is making cd-rs of sylvian/fripp's Damage, which I have on tape but would like on CD. If availability goes away, it is the job of the fans to distribute the music themselves.

    "So you thought that your bolts and your locks would keep me out. You should have known better after all this time. You're going to pay in blood for all your vicious slander.... Let the blood flow." -- Fish -O- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111/

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:01:30 -0500 (EST) From: belhai <belhai@drew.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: FAQ, Discog, Bio, John Wesley Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980611135656.543281252A-100000@drew.edu>

    > > So what's up with all those off topic posts ! For Skadz's > sake, talk about Dream Theatre, because I need more stuff > for my website "Dream Theatre - Under A Rumour Mill". ;-)

    Possible newbie post:

    "Man, it's not spelled Theatre, it's THEATER!!!"

    I think we should just call them Spice Fuckers. They'd probably get more attention.

    Brandon

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:05:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DT/ELP/DP in San Francisco (true DTC) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980611135425.3890A-100000@viking.cris.com>

    On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Lisa Marie wrote:

    Charoenkwan wrote: > > If you do not want to pay for the service charge, go to buy the tix > > at the Fillmore box office. It's opened at 10 a.m. on Sunday only. > > Wow, the tickets are going on sale already?? Does that seem a bit early to > anyone else, or am I in a freaky time warp all by myself?

    I checked the paper (Guardian, SF Weekly) but didn't see any announcement about the show or tickets. But Charoenkwan, as hardcore as she is, seems to have the edge on this sort of info :)

    > Hey sis, did you really mean "Fillmore" box office, or did you mean the > Warfield box office ? It's entirely possible that they could sell tickets > for the Warfield (I guess), it just seems a little odd to me, so that's why > I'm double checking.

    The Fillmore box office sells tickets for both Fillmore events and Warfield events. I'm not even sure if the Warfield has a box office. But yeah, this is what the Fillmore web page says.

    Go see Meat Beat Manifesto this Saturday. DO IT! :)

    Now Playing: The Grassy Knoll, "III"

    Rick Audet San Francisco

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:31:08 +0000 From: someone@enteract.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Jason Becker Message-ID: <199806111825.NAA12885@oats.farm.niu.edu>

    I hadn't heard about Jason's improvement, and I'm hesitant to take it to heart because of the many times I've been falsly told he'd died. However, it appears I possess a nigget of information not known to this list. http://www.jasonbecker.com is where his page is now. Exact same page, different URL It still lists his email as jason@guitarists.com, but I'd cc jason@jasonbecker.com just to be sure.

    Take care!

    Go Home and Practice!

    Chris Ptacek someone@prognosis.com http://www.prognosis.com/madsman

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:41:15 -0500 From: "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dogs with bumblebees in their mouths Message-ID: <l03130300b1a5d3a49581@[129.116.47.106]>

    I've decided to really challenge myself this summer, and I want to learn Flight of the Bumblebee on my guitar, as soon as I wrap up TTT. my only problem is that I can't find tab or music online (I've tried OLGA, and she doen't have it) and I don't really want to go buy a copy (being a poor college student and all). do any of you have a transcription on their computer? if so, would you mind emailing it to me. I'd really like to do this 'cause the guys in my band dared me to, and I'd love to show them what's up. I'd prefer tab, 'cause I haven't read treble cleff since 7th grade, and my theory class doesn't begin till the fall. thanks bunches!

    ps - can anyone figure out the reference in the subject line? MP probably could!

    James C. Shields Undergraduate University of Texas at Austin =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spread before you is your soul So forever hold the dreams within our hearts Through Nature's inflexible grace I'm Learning to live Dream Theater "Learning to Live" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:58:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dogs with bumblebees in their mouths Message-ID: <199806111858.OAA22314@node7.unix.Virginia.EDU>

    According to James C. Shields: > > I've decided to really challenge myself this summer, and I want to learn > Flight of the Bumblebee on my guitar, as soon as I wrap up TTT. my only > problem is that I can't find tab or music online (I've tried OLGA, and she

    years ago Guitar for the Practicing (Shredder) Musician magazine transcribed Nuno from extreme's version of this piece, he played it using a delay pedal. if you can't find info anywhere else, mail me and i'll see if i can find out what back issue it's in.

    scott andrews biophysics research sha3u@virginia.edu chemistry department ****************************************************************** --- http://www.people.virginia.edu/~sha3u --- info & CD reviews | Ibanez | soundclips of of major & underground | 7 string | my prog-thrash progressive/thrash metal | guitar info | metal band ATAXIA ****************************************************************** "metal isn't dead, it just smells funny." -Zappa paraphrase

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:26:45 +0000 From: Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dogs with bumblebees in their mouths Message-ID: <01IY43BI9IPU91VTQ1@carleton.edu>

    > ps - can anyone figure out the reference in the subject line? MP probably > could!

    "worse... Smithers, release the robotic Richard Simmons."

    or am I just far too ardent a Simpsons fan? id

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:42:43 +0000 From: Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: (NDTC) The Black Crowes Message-ID: <01IY43VCGYTW91VTQ1@carleton.edu>

    A small request -

    If anyone out there has a CD with the radio edit version of the Black Crowes' "Hard to Handle" (the version with the horns) languishing on their CD rack, I'd be very interested in purchasing it from you for a fanatical friend's birthday. Private replies, please - id@dreamt.org

    Peace, id

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:21:31 EDT From: Calvin6S@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Jason Becker recovering? Message-ID: <84b3b27e.35803c4c@aol.com>

    In a message dated 6/11/98 2:48:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:

    << Yes, I had heard the same thing about Jason. I hope to God he's really doing better. The day he is back on stage will be a great day for guitar players, and all people. I wish I knew a way to get in touch with his guy too! >>

    Okay, if this is true - I am genuinely excited. I almost HATED seeing new news about Jason Becker since the DLR album because it was always BAD news. Earlier this year I received a letter from Jason's mother (because I ordered Perspectives from Jason) stating Jason was going in for surgery, but it sounded like it was surgery just to help a certain problem (breathing). Now I am hearing stories of recovery. If it is true, was it a natural recovery (Jason's will is so strong he just started to regain control?) or drugs or surgery? If Jason is recovering then this is the best news I've heard in quite a LONG time. If anyone out there knows more, please report back.

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    Date: Thu, 11 Jun 98 15:24:54 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dogs with bumblebees in their mouths Message-ID: <35803d15411b005@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>

    Responding To: Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org> Original Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:50:22 -0700 (PDT)

    "What are you going to do, release the dogs? Or the bumblebees? Or the dogs with bumblebees in their mouths so when the dogs bark they spit bumblebees at you and the bumblebees sting you?"

    .or something like that...

    -Brian

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