YTSEJAM Digest 3981
Today's Topics:
1) New live CD and possible video!
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
2) amazon.com
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdm.com>
3) Tickets for Rotterdam fanclub gig STILL AVAILABLE !!!
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
4) Firth of Fifth
by Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
5) Traders
by Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
6) re: DT/ELP/DP tickets
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
7) Prog band recommendations
by Totikus <totikus@gmx.net>
8) Re: DT/ELP/DP in San Francisco (true DTC)
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
9) Re: DT/ELP/DP in San Francisco (true DTC)
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
10) Share my joy!
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
11) Re: Bumblebees
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
12) WDaJU/Mike Bahr?
by Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net>
13) Re: Firth of Fifth
by Yessi Kristianto <yessi.kbd@himalkom-ipb.ml.org>
14) RE: New live CD and possible video!
by "Geoff Stephens" <geoff@texas.net>
15) Who needs tab?
by "Larry" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com>
16) Open All Night Records url
by Jenn Williamson <jwillie@erols.com>
17) Killa Beez On A Swarm
by Uroborosss@aol.com
18) Who Is John Galt?
by Uroborosss@aol.com
19) Scully & Bootlegging
by Uroborosss@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:30:11 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New live CD and possible video!
Message-ID: <01BD9588.84BE5940@15.rotterdam1.gironet.nl>
Haven't seen this posted here yet... here is the latest news
from Mike Portnoy on the next live cd and video... Hope it's
on topic enough. ;-)
_____
Hey all,
I am writing to you from the airplane on our way to Switzerland to kick off
another exciting European tour!!! : )
Here's the latest....(and this is all "official" and ready for public
consumption)
The Fan Club show in Rotterdam on June 22nd will be
a kinda-sorta-pseudo-acoustic-electric-casual-"unplugged" type of set.
It will be 100% different from what our show at the Dutch festival the
follwing week (and any of the other shows) will be.......
We will play songs we haven't done in a while, some new songs (NOT M2, so
don't even ask!), some covers, etc....
It should be a real intimate & special night.
We will be recording the show with Kevin Shirley for part of a live album to
be released in the Fall....
Also, it looks likely that we will also video tape the fan club show for
inclusion in a possible new home video. (That is, if I can talk the label into
a new home video...
they seem to think nobody would be interested!!! hahahahahaha!!!)
Now, as if this weren't enough...
We will also record with Kevin Shirley the show 3 nights later in Paris,
(a traditional DT show) also for the live album....
It looks very possible that the Paris show will be an EXTRA LOOONNG show
(maybe 2 sets with an intermission) in order to record as much material as
possible.
Between these 2 shows, we will have enough live material (and different songs
& versions) to cover a very wide spectrum of our career & catalog for a live
album & video.... (Don't say Uncle Mikey doesn't look after you guys!!!)
How many of you will witness both shows???? : )
Well, that's the latest and greatest for now....
We have some rehearsing to do!!!!!
C-ya real soon,
Mike Portnoy
_____
Mark Bredius
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Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
* http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: Today
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:06:22 -0400
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: amazon.com
Message-ID: <358046CE.DFC3DDE2@bdm.com>
Amazon.com has entered the internet cd business.
For there Progressive Rock Essential list DT's Images and Words was one
of the items.
The review was as follows:
Proof positive that one can be a virtuoso musician
and also have heart,
Dream Theater are in impressive form on this album,
arguably their best.
They do it by never allowing technical flash to
overwhelm their songs; there's
substance under the style, in the form of
ear-catching riffs and aggressive
rhythms. The opening "Pull Me Under" is, quite
simply, a great song, from its
sparse introduction to its heavy-duty main riff to
its memorable lyrics. Dream
Theater, as its name implies, is an introspective
band, exploring the
complexities of the human heart and bringing them
to life with songs like
"Learning to Live," "Take the Time," and "Wait for
Sleep". Unlike many metal
bands, they favor an optimistic outlook, as with
"Another Day" and
"Surrounded," and even the dazzlingly complex
"Metropolis, Pt. 1" is an
entertaining listen. -- Genevieve Williams
The prices I think don't compare with cdnow. One interesting thing is
that you can leave a review of an album.
NP:DT-Wake Up
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 23:11:49 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tickets for Rotterdam fanclub gig STILL AVAILABLE !!! Message-ID: <01BD958E.54DB6140@15.rotterdam1.gironet.nl>
If you still need tickets for the fanclub gig in Rotterdam on June 22nd, run to the nearest post office NOW! Contrary to earlier reports, there are still about 100 tickets available, for 52.50 Guilders each... Read the note from Mike Portnoy I posted earlier today, to find out why you do NOT want to miss this event!
Mark Bredius ____________________________________________________________ Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org * http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: Today
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:11:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Firth of Fifth Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980611180959.9219A-100000@copland.udel.edu>
I am looking for he tab to the intro to Firth of Fifth for keyboard/piano, if anyone can help me out please e-mail me. Thanks...andy
Andrew Miller Resigning himself to the unknown ytsejam@Udel.Edu he drifts off into sleep. He wakes in a cold sweat with a strong urge to vomit. -question...Who is HE?
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:03:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Traders Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980611190123.22584B-100000@copland.udel.edu>
All this talk about traders makes me think about an old ytsejammer named Brian Cox from Texas. Talk about an asshole. He screwed many a jammer out of money.
Lighten up on Mike Bahr, he is one of the nicest guys you will ever meet and as far as boots it just doesn't get better. Quality takes time.
andy
Andrew Miller Resigning himself to the unknown ytsejam@Udel.Edu he drifts off into sleep. He wakes in a cold sweat with a strong urge to vomit. -question...Who is HE?
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:50:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: DT/ELP/DP tickets Message-ID: <19980611215005.13833.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com>
>Bay Area jammers DO NOT forget to go get yourself the >ticket of the DT/ELP/DP show at the Warfield (Aug 28).
>The tix will go on sale at BASS on this Sunday, June >14 at 10 a.m.
>Main floor : $37.50 >Balcony : $32.50
Is this price with or without the service charge?
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:49:36 -0400 From: Totikus <totikus@gmx.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: fates@listservant.net Subject: Prog band recommendations Message-ID: <0EUE002RAY8GQH@PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET>
Hi, I'm trying to get to know some more obscure bands and am about to place an order at the Laser's Edge. I don't have much money tho, so I'm trying to buy 2 of the following: Superior - Behind Symphony X - The Divine Wings of Tragedy / Twilight In Olympus Eternity X - The Edge House of Spirits - Turn of the Tide Lion's Share
If any of you have recommendations, I'd be more than glad to hear them. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------- | Totikus totikus@hotmail.com | | A Fortune In Midis - The Dream Theater Midi Page | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/7767 | | "A man must learn to cope, if his obsession's real | | Suppression that he feels must turn to hope." | | Dream Theater, "Take The Time" | ----------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:02:07 -0800 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT/ELP/DP in San Francisco (true DTC) Message-ID: <v01540b00b1a65700c064@[205.134.228.17]>
Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Wow, the tickets are going on sale already?? Does that seem a bit early to >anyone else, or am I in a freaky time warp all by myself?
Yes, you are. :)
>Hey sis, did you really mean "Fillmore" box office, or did you mean the >Warfield box office ? It's entirely possible that they could sell tickets >for the Warfield (I guess), it just seems a little odd to me, so that's why >I'm double checking.
Yes, I mean the Fillmore box office (Geary/Fillmore..opened Sunday 10 a.m. - 4 p.m. only). They have sold the tickets of the Warfield shows years ago. And the Warfield box office is usually not opened for anyone to buy the tix only if they have some show on that day.
Regards, AE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump ICQ: #13676703
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:09:20 -0800 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT/ELP/DP in San Francisco (true DTC) Message-ID: <v01540b01b1a659013907@[205.134.227.58]>
Rick Audet wrote:
>I checked the paper (Guardian, SF Weekly) but didn't see any announcement >about the show or tickets. But Charoenkwan, as hardcore as she is, seems >to have the edge on this sort of info :)
Guardian and SF Weekly are slow/not up to date and have wrong info sometimes. I called the Warfield box office that's why I knew. I can't miss ELP. :)
>The Fillmore box office sells tickets for both Fillmore events and >Warfield events. I'm not even sure if the Warfield has a box office.
I asked the person at the Warfield box office on the phone. She said you have to get the tix at the Fillmore box office instead of Warfield.
>But yeah, this is what the Fillmore web page says. >Go see Meat Beat Manifesto this Saturday. DO IT! :)
Haha...you GO alone, Rick! :) And do not wait until the last minute to buy the DT/ELP/DP tix.
Take care, AE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump ICQ: #13676703
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:22:39 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Share my joy! Message-ID: <199806120324.UAA24250@cats.ucsc.edu>
I just got back from attending the LAST class meeting of my undergraduate college career! No more papers, no finals! All I have to do now is relax for a week and a half and wait for graduation! I'm done, done done!
Doin the Ytse Shuffle ...
~Chris
__ /\ __ Chris Oates: aspect@cats.ucsc.edu __\/__\/__ +---- \_||_/ | "Still awake, I continue to move along, cultivating my | ./__||__\ | own nonsense" -Dream Theater, "Trial of Tears" | // \ | \\ ----+ \| http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 00:25:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Bumblebees Message-ID: <199806120425.AAA26682@umbc8.umbc.edu>
Just to clarify, When you speak of "Flight of the bumblbee" you speak of that classical composition by the composer whose name I am forgetting right now. It was written for violin, I think. Nuno does "Flight of the WOUNDED Bumblebee." The title is a play on the other and has some similar characteristics, but is not the same piece. I'm sure some mad shredder has done it. Didn't Jennifer Batten do Flight of the Bumblebee once upon a time?
Of course, what do I know?
Steve Z
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 23:45:37 -0500 From: Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WDaJU/Mike Bahr? Message-ID: <3580B271.5E56@auburn.net>
It seems like I've heard of When Dream and James Unite. The place that I would have heard of it would have been Mike Bahr's excellent DT bootleg guide. Mike, did you ever say why you took that page down? I very much enjoyed it, and have missed it more than once since it was taken down.
Take care, everyone, Mark Peters swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:47:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Yessi Kristianto <yessi.kbd@himalkom-ipb.ml.org> To: YTSEJAMMERS <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Firth of Fifth Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980612134723.6400A-100000@himalkom-ipb.ml.org>
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Andy wrote:
> > I am looking for he tab to the intro to Firth of Fifth for keyboard/piano, > if anyone can help me out please e-mail me. Thanks...andy > > Andrew Miller Resigning himself to the unknown > ytsejam@Udel.Edu he drifts off into sleep. He > wakes in a cold sweat with a > strong urge to vomit. > -question...Who is HE? > Andy, keyboardists don't use tabs, they use music sheets (the one with the treble and bass clefs, remember?). And as for the Firth of Fifth intro...Man, I think you'd better start using those ears, cos it's quite easy. I mean, it's nothin' compared to Kevin Moore's solo on "Take the Time" (now that's what I call unintelligible). Stop depending on Tabs and sheets, it's time to use your ears! Trust me, you'll improve better this way. I know I do.
======================================= I can see much clearer now I'm blind...
"Take the Time", Dream Theater =======================================
"Keep the Music Playin'" ------------------------ Yessi Kristianto
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 00:41:20 -0500 From: "Geoff Stephens" <geoff@texas.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: New live CD and possible video! Message-ID: <000e01bd95c4$ba041400$5d2863d1@geoff.texas.net>
I wonder if there is any consideration of a double album!!
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 23:44:08 -0600 From: "Larry" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Who needs tab? Message-ID: <003301bd95c5$1f950e00$8d6dd6ce@amd-k6200>
James C. Shields wrote:
>I've decided to really challenge myself this summer, and I want to learn >Flight of the Bumblebee on my guitar, as soon as I wrap up TTT. my only >problem is that I can't find tab or music online <snipped>
Hey, if you want to REALLY challenge yourself, why rely on somebody else's transcription of the song? You know the melody, right? Learn it from memory! Pick any key - here's a hint, it starts on the 5th of the chord. Yer welcome ;^)
Larry (no sig - some of you should follow suit)
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 02:35:45 -0400 From: Jenn Williamson <jwillie@erols.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Open All Night Records url Message-ID: <3580CC41.72E55C37@erols.com>
Hey! I was wondering if someone could post the url for Open All Night Records. Thanks-- Jenn Williamson
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 03:07:04 EDT From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Killa Beez On A Swarm Message-ID: <17c80ebb.3580d399@aol.com>
> From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> > Subject: Re: Dogs with bumblebees in their mouths > > "What are you going to do, release the dogs? Or the bumblebees? Or the dogs > with bumblebees in their mouths so when the dogs bark they spit bumblebees > at you and the bumblebees sting you?" > > .or something like that...
If there's one thing I can't stand, it's a misquoting. Replace "bumblebees" with "bees." Please, please. On my knees. Slice of cheese. Bag of sleaze. Golden keys. Summer breeze. Kill the trees. Catch some z's.
Goodnight.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 03:23:04 EDT From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Who Is John Galt? Message-ID: <1d27713c.3580d759@aol.com>
Brian Hayden said: "Go away boy, you are growing tiresome." Philip Anselmo said: "Walk on home, boy." Chris Ptacek said: "You bore me." Laura Bradford from "Atlas Shrugged" also said: "You bore me." (p.543)
Through all the badmouthing of Puff Daddy that went on here, I feel compelled to point out that he's one heck of a tap dancer.
Chris Merlo said: "Art is dying, folks. The longer we allow utter shit to gain popularity and acclaim, the harder it will be to find true art." Ayn Rand replied to Chris in my dream last night with: "Until one day when all the prime movers of the world do the complete unexpected...and force all others to starve and die out like the dinosaurs..."
Chris Ptacek said: "Last time I checked, you don't ask permission to steal." Francisco d'Anconia then whispered to me: "Mr. Ptacek hasn't read 'Atlas Shrugged' yet, has he?"
Then Chris also said: "This is a revolting attitude to have. I fully agree with Calvin." And I say: "Damn straight! If teachers would stop looking like giant ugly aliens from outer space, kids would stop daydreaming about attacking them and concentrate on their arithmetic!"
Chris Merlo said, of Gregorian Chanters: "They're as dead as Latin." Which can only mean: "They're more prevalent than you can imagine. Knowledge of Gregorian Chant will be a godsend should you ever wish to study Baroque, Classical, Romantic, or NeoClassical Shred."
Chris Merlo also said, of the stagnancy of Gregorian Chants: "They're written. There are no new chants." And I say: "GO HAMMA! GO HAMMA! GO HAMMA!" (circa 1990 AD)
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 03:41:39 EDT From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Scully & Bootlegging Message-ID: <382483be.3580dbb5@aol.com>
> From: Scott Hansen <deranged@cruel.unusual.com> > Subject: Agent Scully, mmm-mmm gooood > > I shouldn't have mentioned *where* I was moving to. Damn! Shhh!!! Don't tell > anyone - I don't need the FBI greeting me on the west coast (heh - unless it's > Scully)!"
Scott, are you suggesting that the primary reasoning behind the established directive of the FBI bears a direct correlation to Chris Carter? On what premesis?
---- > From: Christopher Ptacek <thorn@enteract.com> > Subject: Let's Face It, I Can't Be Stopped > > There's nothing wrong with selling off your stuff, but crack open a can of "Reality > Juice."
hahahaha is that on the shelf next to Whoopass??
> I bought "error" baseball cards thinking they would be collectibles (I was really > young. :) as well as Valient comics.
Garbage Pail Kids, anyone?
>> Now the bootlegs that I bought for $25 and should be able to sell at >> least at those costs (plus shipping), are difficult to sell to fans. > > Why should they be worth at least $25?
Nostalgic value. And because you can carry it around and shout stuff like "Hey! I have the right of way! (hold up cd) AND I'M SURE THE MAN WHO BURNED THIS CD WOULD AGREE, JERKOFF!!"
>> I am a collector. > > A collector collects. You're selling.
Hahahaha let me introduce you to Magic cards... No, let's go back in time a decade or so... This is my collection of Wolverine #1s. Aren't they nice? I have 14 of them. Don't worry, the plastic bags are acid-free. I will sell several of these magnificent comic books over the years as their value increases, selling them for much more money than what I spent. And what will I do with this money? I will buy more comics. This will further my collection. I buy and sell in this manner because I AM A COLLECTOR.
This discussion, as far as I can tell, wasn't about collecting seashells or human scalps or other stuff you can just take from somewhere without paying for it. It was about cds, and your comment was WAY off base. Collectors buy and sell all the time. If Andy had said "I'm selling cds to pay for a third testicle implant," THEN you'd have a real reason to argue with him. It doesn't matter all that much that Andy isn't buying more bootlegs with the money he makes from selling his present bootlegs. Just don't say things like "collectors don't sell."
> Buy music as an aesthetic investment, not a financial one.
This is a statement to live by.
> Now the "fans" trade CDs and you have a more convenient form for their music. > Since it's so cheap, you're right, they'll never know what a pain in the ass it used > to be. The MUSIC, however, means just as much, but to more people. Keep em > coming!
I can't tell if this is a word on the bootlegging industry of 1998 or a quote taken from 2010 directed at original musicians everywhere... Either thought causes me to tremble...
Bafu Vai
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