YTSEJAM Digest 3982
Today's Topics:
1) The list
by Michael Zachariadis <mzahar@cc.uoa.gr>
2) More 'Ryche
by Earendil Asmodel <asmodel@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
3) LTE, FAQ
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
4) Dogs with bees in their mouths...
by Josh.Brand@stpaul.com
5) Re: Firth of Fifth
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
6) RE: Queensr?che
by Scott Fuller <spacedye@acay.com.au>
7) re: DT/ELP/DP tickets
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
8) Monsters of Rock in...Turin?
by adiel@earthling.net
9) Monsters of Rock in...Turin?
by adiel@earthling.net
10) Monsters of Rock in...Turin?
by adiel@earthling.net
11) Monsters of Rock in...Turin?
by adiel@earthling.net
12) Monsters of Rock in Turin?
by adrian longley <adiel@help.com>
13) amazon.com.dtc
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
14) Hollow Years Import
by "Chris Milne" <cmilne@wam.umd.edu>
15) Artension, Jason Becker
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
16) New Live Stuff...
by Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
17) Re: Mike's post...
by Steve Chew <schew@tis.com>
18) chromakey
by "Chris Milne" <cmilne@wam.umd.edu>
19) cd recommends, Flight of the...
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:00:07 +0300
From: Michael Zachariadis <mzahar@cc.uoa.gr>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The list
Message-ID: <3580EE17.DF4A1AA6@cc.uoa.gr>
Hi there progsters
Unfortunately I don't have the time to read the postings
regularly, so I might have mist some thinks. What's this story about
people complaining about ytsejam? I'm in the list about half a year
and learned about DT more than I have the last 5 years or so.
Q: Where Mike "the drummGod" Portnoy (AntiChrist!?) appears in his
full MAJESTY [except from behind his drum kit]?
A: The YTSEJAM list (maybe elsewhere? don't know)
3 days, 9 hours and 30 minutes till THE CONCERT (Dream Theater
performing in Athens, Greece)
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mailto:mzahar@cc.uoa.gr
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:34:17 +0200 (CEST)
From: Earendil Asmodel <asmodel@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: More 'Ryche
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980612133302.6830A-100000@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
More 'Ryche? geeeez..Promised Land dont suck at all,its a great album only
it
isnt too erhm heavy and u can hardly find any riffs in it (like Sava
DWD)..but
thats the concept,being more mature and all they decided to work on
lyrics,
arrangements,production and not music itself..like metallica do in their
last
albums (that arent bad at all,they just dont sound like metallica..if we
had
1 million dollars to spend on recordings,we'd write better albums than
Load :) )
Rage was the benchmark for prog metal indeed..though I admit i dont like
it too
much..IMHO it cant compare to Mindcrime,nor Promised Land but they'd never
be able
to write such albums if it wasnt for Rage.thats just my opinion of
course,i know
most of u disagree :) as about Geoff's singing,i havent listened to
"Hear.." yet
(doubt i'll ever do) so i wouldnt know if he voice has gotten worse..i
just like
the way he sings in low notes..like most of PL songs,or "Silent Lucidity"
etc..
it was on Rage when he first started to work on his voice (expand its
range as well)
Ah btw,about Sava fans,guys none of you mentioned "Transiberian
Orchestra",the
project of O'Neill,Oliva and other Sava members..most of the songs of that
christmas album have the TWOM feeling..and are better..thats why when i
listened
to TWOM (after TO's album had melted in my cd player) i didnt think its
too unique
opinions,opinions.....btw dont be hasty,'Ryche is NOT over yet! they'll be
back.
Asmodel
ps hey what about Empire? its moody and simple but good too..funny how
they became
famous with THAT album..tsktsk..
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| Eala Earendel engla beorhtast |
| ofer middangeard monnum sended. |
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:18:40 +0100 (BST)
From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: LTE, FAQ
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.45-0612121840-0b0rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>
Kerrang! magazine in the UK just gave LTE 4 out of 5. I'm utterly
surprised. :-)
> From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
>
> I can't edit the FAQ, not even to update the name of it's
> maintainer, because I only mirror it. Simple as that.
Says who?
I hereby nominate Mark Bredius as the new Dream Theater FAQ maintainer.
See, wasn't that easy?
If Mark were to start updating the FAQ, what would make his version any
less official than Pat's non-existent version? I say "go for it", Mark.
Graham
-- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889------------------------------
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 07:35:06 -0500 From: Josh.Brand@stpaul.com To: Liquid Ytse Experiment <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dogs with bees in their mouths... Message-ID: <86256621.004422DE.00@astplh99.stpaul.com>
..and when they bark they shoot bees at you?
Oh yeah, and thank you Alex Fraser:
>"worse... Smithers, release the robotic Richard Simmons." Thanks to you, my mind spontaneously started playing "Shake Your Booty"! Damn you! Now I'll have K.C. and the Sunshine Band in my head all day!
In DT related-news, does the Minnesota DP/DT/ELP show have any age restrictions? I know a couple of my friends who are going to be high school seniors would like to go, and I'd like to immerse them in the prog experience this is sure to be, but, as you have probably already figured out, they aren't 18 yet, and won't be by August. So, any word? At least don't let it be a 21+ show or _my_ 20 year old ass'll be out in the cold. Thanks for any info...
Odelay, Josh
--In the discman: Morrissey/Maladjusted
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 98 07:51:03 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Firth of Fifth Message-ID: <358124362289003@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of Fri, 12 Jun 1998 05:45:05 -0700 (PDT) from Yessi Kristianto <yessi.kbd@himalkom-ipb.ml.org>:
> Andy, keyboardists don't use tabs, they use music sheets
/me giggles and awaits the roastage...
-Brian
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:25:08 +1000 From: Scott Fuller <spacedye@acay.com.au> To: Ytsejam Digest <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Queensr?che Message-ID: <35812C34.B60FF698@acay.com.au>
I'll have to disagree. I found Promised Land to be a great album and still enjoy it very much. BUT..... I find it works best in it's recorded format. Most of the pre-promised land Ryche stuff is just better live. Just by watching two videos, one of Mindcrime, and on of Promised Land, I enjoy the mindcrime one much more. Promised Land does not seem to have the same effect live.
Scott
-- +=====================================================================+ Scott Fuller - ICQ: 6350614 http://shogun.mypage.org >>>>>Firebox Web Design<<<<< http://firebox.home.ml.org +=====================================================================+
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 07:36:28 -0800 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: DT/ELP/DP tickets Message-ID: <v01540b00b1a6fb3d9b18@[205.134.227.46]>
Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warfield, San Francisco.
>>Main floor : $37.50 >>Balcony : $32.50 > >Is this price with or without the service charge?
Without the service charge.
AE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump ICQ: #13676703
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:32:39 -0400 (EDT) From: adiel@earthling.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Monsters of Rock in...Turin? Message-ID: <199806121432.KAA29632@web03.globecomm.net>
Hey all,
We're sitting in the 'Hard Disk Cafe' in Milan, after finding out about an hour ago that the Monsters of Rock had been moved to Turin! Don't know when this was decided, but I never heard anything about it until we bought the tickets from the Virgin Megastore just now.
Haven't been able to read the jam over the last week, so I don't know what has been said about this, and also about Van Halen. They cancelled today's concert in Zurich on Monday apparently, (we were also going to go to that one) and so I have no idea if they will be performing in Turin tomorrow. - If not, more DT!
I think I must be a jinx as I was heading for the Nottigham gig (the one that almost became a Liquid Tension/Platypus/instrumental set) when that was called off!
If anyone knows anything about the situation with the Monsters of Rock, and you are in ACK mode, mail me before 3:00 GMT.
Thanks, and maybe we'll meet some Italian Jammers tomorrow.
Adrian.
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:33:27 -0400 (EDT) From: adiel@earthling.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Monsters of Rock in...Turin? Message-ID: <199806121433.KAA19128@web02.globecomm.net>
Hey all,
We're sitting in the 'Hard Disk Cafe' in Milan, after finding out about an hour ago that the Monsters of Rock had been moved to Turin! Don't know when this was decided, but I never heard anything about it until we bought the tickets from the Virgin Megastore just now.
Haven't been able to read the jam over the last week, so I don't know what has been said about this, and also about Van Halen. They cancelled today's concert in Zurich on Monday apparently, (we were also going to go to that one) and so I have no idea if they will be performing in Turin tomorrow. - If not, more DT!
I think I must be a jinx as I was heading for the Nottigham gig (the one that almost became a Liquid Tension/Platypus/instrumental set) when that was called off!
If anyone knows anything about the situation with the Monsters of Rock, and you are in ACK mode, mail me before 3:00 GMT.
Thanks, and maybe we'll meet some Italian Jammers tomorrow.
Adrian.
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:31:33 -0400 (EDT) From: adiel@earthling.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Monsters of Rock in...Turin? Message-ID: <199806121431.KAA27534@web01.globecomm.net>
Hey all,
We're sitting in the 'Hard Disk Cafe' in Milan, after finding out about an hour ago that the Monsters of Rock had been moved to Turin! Don't know when this was decided, but I never heard anything about it until we bought the tickets from the Virgin Megastore just now.
Haven't been able to read the jam over the last week, so I don't know what has been said about this, and also about Van Halen. They cancelled today's concert in Zurich on Monday apparently, (we were also going to go to that one) and so I have no idea if they will be performing in Turin tomorrow. - If not, more DT!
I think I must be a jinx as I was heading for the Nottigham gig (the one that almost became a Liquid Tension/Platypus/instrumental set) when that was called off!
If anyone knows anything about the situation with the Monsters of Rock, and you are in ACK mode, mail me before 3:00 GMT.
Thanks, and maybe we'll meet some Italian Jammers tomorrow.
Adrian.
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:32:24 -0400 (EDT) From: adiel@earthling.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Monsters of Rock in...Turin? Message-ID: <199806121432.KAA29595@web03.globecomm.net>
Hey all,
We're sitting in the 'Hard Disk Cafe' in Milan, after finding out about an hour ago that the Monsters of Rock had been moved to Turin! Don't know when this was decided, but I never heard anything about it until we bought the tickets from the Virgin Megastore just now.
Haven't been able to read the jam over the last week, so I don't know what has been said about this, and also about Van Halen. They cancelled today's concert in Zurich on Monday apparently, (we were also going to go to that one) and so I have no idea if they will be performing in Turin tomorrow. - If not, more DT!
I think I must be a jinx as I was heading for the Nottigham gig (the one that almost became a Liquid Tension/Platypus/instrumental set) when that was called off!
If anyone knows anything about the situation with the Monsters of Rock, and you are in ACK mode, mail me before 3:00 GMT.
Thanks, and maybe we'll meet some Italian Jammers tomorrow.
Adrian.
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 16:31:41 +0200 From: adrian longley <adiel@help.com> To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Monsters of Rock in Turin? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980612163141.00686d8c@help.com>
Hey all,
We're sitting in the 'Hard Disk Cafe' in Milan, after finding out about an hour ago that the Monsters of Rock had been moved to Turin! Don't know when this was decided, but I never heard anything about it until we bought the tickets from the Virgin Megastore just now.
Haven't been able to read the jam over the last week, so I don't know what has been said about this, and also about Van Halen. They cancelled today's concert in Zurich on Monday apparently, (we were also going to go to that one) and so I have no idea if they will be performing in Turin tomorrow. - If not, more DT!
I think I must be a jinx as I was heading for the Nottigham gig (the one that almost became a Liquid Tension/Platypus/instrumental set) when that was called off!
If anyone knows anything about the situation with the Monsters of Rock, and you are in ACK mode, mail me before 3:00 GMT.
Thanks, and maybe we'll meet some Italian Jammers tomorrow.
Adrian.
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 07:45:01 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: amazon.com.dtc Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C34170A3DB@ms.kallback.com>
> Amazon.com has entered the internet cd business. > For there Progressive Rock Essential list DT's Images and Words was > one > of the items. > The review was as follows: (snipped: read it at amazon.com) > The prices I think don't compare with cdnow. One interesting thing is > that you can leave a review of an album. They would also like to hear from the artists regarding the albums. Logon MP!
There was also a big exclusive interview with MP in my latest Columbia House flyer. Almost a whole page!
Trevor
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:40:27 -0400 From: "Chris Milne" <cmilne@wam.umd.edu> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Hollow Years Import Message-ID: <001a01bd9610$0adfe390$09b3c1d1@dvo.umd.edu>
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Does anyone know what is on this CD? Amazon.com lists it, but doesn't = have a track listing.
Thanks,
Chris
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:54:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net> To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Artension, Jason Becker Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980612101814.18964A-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Scott F. inquired re: Artension: > Anyone else heard anything from them? If ppl want, I could possibly > upload a mp3 of one song to Dr Mosh's site...
Artension's a very good band, overlooked by a lot of people I think. Vitalij Kuprij is a bit shred-happy, sometimes overlooking melody in favor of pure speed, but the music overall is outstanding. "Phoenix Rising" is the better of their two discs but "Into the Eye of the Storm" is impressive too. Both are worth picking up.
After reading some encouraging rumors about Jason Becker, Calvin remarked: > Okay, if this is true - I am genuinely excited. I almost HATED seeing new > news about Jason Becker since the DLR album because it was always BAD news. > Earlier this year I received a letter from Jason's mother (because I ordered > Perspectives from Jason) stating Jason was going in for surgery, but it > sounded like it was surgery just to help a certain problem (breathing). Now I > am hearing stories of recovery. If it is true, was it a natural recovery > (Jason's will is so strong he just started to regain control?) or drugs or > surgery? If Jason is recovering then this is the best news I've heard in > quite a LONG time. If anyone out there knows more, please report back.
I had to quote this in its entirety to emphasize it and second the emotion. I too would REALLY REALLY like to know what's going on with Jason, but his page hasn't been updated in forever and a day.
I would be happy as hell to find out that Jason's getting better, but I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you folks. ALS is a hell of a thing to fight. And please, if you *DO* find something out, let us know where you got your info -- don't just say "I heard that Jason was getting better" or something. That just freaks all of us out, and I think (and I'm sure Mike Bahr would agree) that we've got enough freaks on this list already.
Ta, Phil
======================================================================= Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal) Senior Tech, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787 "I never should have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" Currently playing: Yanni -- "Out of Silence"
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 09:56:06 -0500 From: Dave Ware <dware@walker.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New Live Stuff... Message-ID: <B1A22B4F087BD111B317006097939160264F38@BHAM-XCHG.immpower.com>
OH MY GOD...
A new live cd from DT - I am happy, I hope Elektra don't drop the ball on this. Please make it a double and a video to match.
Dave (a UK Jammer - now in Alabama).
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:51:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Chew <schew@tis.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Mike's post... Message-ID: <199806121451.KAA18188@clipper.hq.tis.com>
> >Hey all, >I am writing to you from the airplane on our way to Switzerland to kick off >another exciting European tour!!! : ) > >Here's the latest....(and this is all "official" and ready for public >consumption) > >The Fan Club show in Rotterdam on June 22nd will be >a kinda-sorta-pseudo-acoustic-electric-casual-"unplugged" type of set. >It will be 100% different from what our show at the Dutch festival the >follwing week (and any of the other shows) will be....... >We will play songs we haven't done in a while, some new songs (NOT M2, so >don't even ask!), some covers, etc.... > I think it's hilarious how well Mike knows us... :-) I guarantee someone would have asked about M2 after the mention of the new songs. Thanks for anticipating us Mike!
> >We will be recording the show with Kevin Shirley for part of a live album to >be released in the Fall.... > Cool!!!
Steve
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:22:14 -0400 From: "Chris Milne" <cmilne@wam.umd.edu> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: chromakey Message-ID: <001401bd9615$e133a620$09b3c1d1@dvo.umd.edu>
Kevin Moore's Chromakey site http://www.chromakey.com now has content (and samples)
chris
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:29:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net> To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: cd recommends, Flight of the... Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980612111619.20605A-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Totikus remarked: > I'm trying to get to know some more obscure bands and am about to place > an order at the Laser's Edge. I don't have much money tho, so I'm trying to > buy 2 of the following: > Superior - Behind > Symphony X - The Divine Wings of Tragedy
Right there are the two you need to get. After that, there are tons more you can get, but of the ones you listed those are the best two. Both of them should be required listening for all prog maniacs. "Twilight in Olympus" is excellent too, but TDWOT is just a masterpiece.
Steve Z remarked: > Just to clarify, When you speak of "Flight of the bumblbee" you speak of > that classical composition by the composer whose name I am forgetting > right now. It was written for violin, I think.
Rimsky-Korsakov wrote "Flight of the Bumblebee".
> Nuno does "Flight of the > WOUNDED Bumblebee." The title is a play on the other and has some similar > characteristics, but is not the same piece. I'm sure some mad shredder > has done it. Didn't Jennifer Batten do Flight of the Bumblebee once upon > a time?
Batten's version is on her album "Above Below and Beyond". It'd have done Rimsky-Korsakov proud. The Great Kat also did a blurring rendition of this piece, but I'm not sure which of her albums it's on -- it might be on "Worship Me or Die".
> From: Uroborosss@aol.com > To: ytsejam@ax.com > Subject: Who Is John Galt?
and I just have one thing to say to this: ".......errrrr....what?" Bafu, what were you ON when you wrote this? :)
Ta, Phil
======================================================================= Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal) Senior Tech, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787 "I never should have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" Currently playing: Rush -- "Test for Echo"
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