YTSEJAM Digest 3610
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Firehouse, Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies, TDoW
by "Joshua B. Wingell" <wingell@alctrz.ENET.dec.com>
2) TAMP Demo
by krackley@weidmuller.com
3) Union CD
by krackley@weidmuller.com
4) Re: REVIEW: "Liquid Tension Experiment"--PART TWO
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
5) Re: 7 Strings, bashing so hard I break pickup rings,
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
6) Re: Savatage, Power of the night
by "Heavy Metal at The Mining Company" <heavymetal.guide@miningco.com>
7) re: self-taught musicians
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
8) Question
by Alex <honnef@cs.uni-bonn.de>
9) More on the new Maiden album - MP3's!!!
by Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
10) 7-Stringed guitars.
by Robban <robban.andersson@swipnet.se>
11) Re: More on the new Maiden album - MP3's!!!
by gumrukcuoglu@superonline.com (Ilker Menderes)
12) New frontiers
by svjohnson@amoco.com
13) Re: economy picking
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
14) Re: German?
by Angus53 <Angus53@aol.com>
15) Crystal Planet (again)
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
16) Equipment ranting:
by Glenn Waterfield <lwaterfi@eecs.uic.edu>
17) Re: German? (Saigon Kick)
by The Phoenix <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
18) The Seventh Ascending Pyramid of Apoco - Lips
by someone@prognosis.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 09:53:25 EST
From: "Joshua B. Wingell" <wingell@alctrz.ENET.dec.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Firehouse, Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies, TDoW
Message-ID: <9803041453.AA26799@us7rmc.bb.dec.com>
>I saw on the very unthrustworthy AMG music guide that Images & Words is
>a similar album on the album Firehouse by Firehouse. I have not heard
>anything by this band before. Can someone tell me something about them?
>Are they recomended? Is this album worth checking out?
Hmmm. I would NOT compare Firehouse to I&W at all. However, I love
the first Firehouse album. Truthfully, it has been a little while
since I listened to it. You might call the band something like a
cross between Def Leppard and Tesla, with a little Extreme mixed in.
I think its great late 80's, early 90's rock! And I can easilly
listen to every song on the CD.
Hmm, now that I am in a non-prog vein, anyone ever heard of
"Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies"? MAN, what a great band! Their song,
"Shakin' The Blues" just rocks. If you like great, fast southern
rock, definitely check out this band.
Back to DT, I just got The Darkest of Winters courtesy of Mike
Bahr. Holy shit! This is the next best thing to actually being at
a DT concert! Everyone needs this CD! The Take The Time rendition
on the CD is amazing. I got a lump in my throat just listening to
it. "Why the fuck did I even come here tonight?" ROFL! JP seemed
to be right on for these concerts, too. Lots of improv and noodling.
I wish I could have attended.
Man, I need a DT concert fix, though. Get back to the northeast of
the US, guys!
Josh
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:05:05 -0500
From: krackley@weidmuller.com
Subject: TAMP Demo
Message-ID: <199803041505.KAA00172@mail.weidmuller.com>
> Loren said:
> I nearly cried after hearing the REAL TAMP.
I agree 100% hear Loren. I couldn't believe how much better the demo of
TAMP was. It had so much more emotion in it. I hate that damn "Mad
About You" drum part throughout the song too.
Hey, if it isn't broke, don't fix it.
Just my $.02
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:20:24 -0500
From: krackley@weidmuller.com
Subject: Union CD
Message-ID: <199803041520.KAA00149@mail.weidmuller.com>
> New album that deserves a spin...Union...the new John Corabi (ex-Motley
Crue
> and Scream) and Bruce Kulick (ex-Kiss, Good Rats, Blackjack). An
excellent
> effort to keep the metal faith alive.
Does this sound at all like the last KISS CD "Carnival of Souls"? I
understand he had alot to do with the writing on this latest CD.
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:17:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: REVIEW: "Liquid Tension Experiment"--PART TWO
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980304101702.168A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
wow, now I don't have to buy the album after that review......
:P
-Al
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Her mouth is a soft explosion of roses
A burst of raw animal definition
For a few moments I was mortal.........
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balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu OR sigma982@yahoo.com OR theprof@bigfoot.com
HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:23:25 -0500 (EST)
From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: 7 Strings, bashing so hard I break pickup rings,
Message-ID: <01IU9JRQZ22A8WW3SG@alma.edu>
> not the Low Pro Edge (which I HATE HATE HATE!).
>Man, that Low Pro sucks - it reminds me of the crap Jackson was putting
>on their guitars in 88-89.
What's the main complaint about low pro trems, just the durability?
Personally, I learned to play on a couple of different low pro floyds, and
as I said last night, now that I'm doing most of my playing on a slightly
older guitar it's been a difficult adjustment to the old Floyd. I'm looking
for a way to put a newer bridge on that guitar, but I don't think it's
going to happen. So do you guys think all of the low profile bridges are
crap, or just certain ones? The old bridge on my guitar (Jackson, not sure of
the year since I bought it used but I'm guessing around 93-94) is pretty high
quality, I just don't like the high fine tuners getting in my way. Also,
are there lower trems that might fit in the body cavity for an old-school
one? Any help is appreciated.
-Clark
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:40:07 -0500
From: "Heavy Metal at The Mining Company" <heavymetal.guide@miningco.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Savatage, Power of the night
Message-ID: <006b01bd4783$cfe7ba40$35c229cf@default>
The official Savatage site (http://www.savatage.com) has the lyrics for all
their albums. Lyrics for Power Of The Night can be found at
http://www.savatage.com/potn/potn_lyric.shtml. I agree, excellent album,
and one to often overlooked by Sava-fans. Produced by the legendary Max
Norman (Ozzy, Megadeth), this is Savatage's heaviest, most aggressive album
IMHO. Metal through and through.
Catch Ya Later,
Matt
Heavy Metal at The Mining Company
http://heavymetal.miningco.com
heavymetal.guide@miningco.com
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:38:03 -0500
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: self-taught musicians
Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980225113803.3f8f82dc@mail.ici.net>
>True, but I think that, percentage-wise, more guitarists are self-taught,
>so the odds are that a random pianist will have more change to have no real
>theory knowledge
I don't know that that's true. I thinka lot of pianists are self-taught
because the instrument is so easy to play. You hit a key, you get a note. I
think anyone who was around a piano at all growing up has at least a
rudimentary knowledge of how to play. With guitar, I think the number of
self-taughts may be high, but the percentage would be about the same. It's
not like with woodwind instruments (my area of expertise), where it takes
some embouchure training to even get something that resembles a note out of
them.
Wow. I think that's the first time I have ever typed the word "embouchure"
in a sentence. :)
_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________
E-mail: (psull)-(at)-(ici)-(dot)-(net)
IRC: DDictator
WWW: http://www.just-like.nu/
NP: Removed because Jon Kretchmer said so.
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:15:25 +0100
From: Alex <honnef@cs.uni-bonn.de>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Question
Message-ID: <01BD4793.FBE55FC0@DEFIANT>
Hi all,
Could anyone tell me, which member of Dream Theater cut his
hair?(I've last seen DT in Dezember '97, so i've seen Mike's haircut)
Please mail me:
honnef@cs.uni-bonn.de
C U l8er Alex
Wir haben die Frauenquote,
wir haben Frauenbeauftragte,
wir haben Frauenparkplätze,
aber wann gibt es endlich
"STRASSEN FÜR FRAUEN"???
-Harald Schmidt 25.02.98-
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Alex Honnef
Email: honnef@cs.uni-bonn.de
Tel: 02644-981242
Fax: 02644-981241
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 11:33:56 -0500
From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: More on the new Maiden album - MP3's!!!
Message-ID: <34FD8274.959C44A@ic3.ithaca.edu>
Alright, I told you guys that I got the new full length Maiden album.
Since it doesn't get released in the US til the 23rd, I encoded every
track lastnight. If anyone is interested in these mp3's soon, get back
to me ASAP. I have spring break starting Friday so no one will be able
to get in touch with me for a week after that. If you want to contact
me on ICQ, my # is 3077750.
Also, this may just be coincedence, but at the beginning of the track,
_When Two Worlds Collide_, it sounds too much like _To Live Forever_ for
it not to be totally ripped off. I seriously thought I was playing a DT
mp3 when I was listening to the CD lastnight. I would appreciate some
other input from some fellow jammers.
Chris
-- "Watch religion come and go, Watch corruption on their shows. Buy your silence money for blood, Out of the ark and into the flood..."- Bruce Dickinson "Lickin' the Gun"
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 18:17:20 +0100 From: Robban <robban.andersson@swipnet.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 7-Stringed guitars. Message-ID: <34FD8C61.4AD9@swipnet.se>
The Really good improvement that Ibanez have been made on the later models is that they now have All Access Neck Joint which is really good i can nowadays not play on a guitar with standard neck joint. Have anyone tried the new Ibanez Jazz 7-stringed??? Does anybody know if the John Petrucci 7-stringed is going to be made for the public??? It has a different neck on it and some other things changed because JP wanted it. But the big question is what kind of Pickups is he using??? Dimarzio I think but is it the BLAZE II??? I can not write more now because I am going to see Scott Henderssons group "Tribal tech" on Nefertiti in Gothenbourgh Sweden anyone else who are going???
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:26:05 +0200 From: gumrukcuoglu@superonline.com (Ilker Menderes) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: More on the new Maiden album - MP3's!!! Message-ID: <01bd4792$9ce088c0$224ef2c2@default>
-----Original Message----- ]From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Date: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 5:44 PM Subject: More on the new Maiden album - MP3's!!!
> >Alright, I told you guys that I got the new full length Maiden album. >Since it doesn't get released in the US til the 23rd, I encoded every >track lastnight. If anyone is interested in these mp3's soon, get back >to me ASAP. I have spring break starting Friday so no one will be able >to get in touch with me for a week after that. If you want to contact >me on ICQ, my # is 3077750. > >Also, this may just be coincedence, but at the beginning of the track, >_When Two Worlds Collide_, it sounds too much like _To Live Forever_ for >it not to be totally ripped off. I seriously thought I was playing a DT >mp3 when I was listening to the CD lastnight. I would appreciate some >other input from some fellow jammers. > > >Chris >-- >"Watch religion come and go, > Watch corruption on their shows. > Buy your silence money for blood, > Out of the ark and into the flood..." > > - Bruce Dickinson "Lickin' the Gun" >
Hi there guy!!! I have visited your homepage but I couldnt find some info about the new MAIDEN MP3s please inform me 'bout that. OK?
DT rules!!!!!!! mail me: paprezzi@hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:31:11 -0600 From: svjohnson@amoco.com To: bawalker@amoco.com, sddean@amoco.com, rgthompsonjr@amoco.com, Subject: New frontiers Message-ID: <199803041737.AA14968@interlock.amoco.com>
If you haven't heard, I am leaving Amoco for McDonald's effective tomorrow (start new gig 3/11). If you are within Amoco and haven't sent me you external address, please do; those outside of Amoco, but in the industry--it was a pleasure working with you. I will be keeping all e-mail addresses for future correspondence. For band info, I will be getting anew e-mail, but in the meantime, send messages to: zoogenic@aol.com for updates. Thanks! Steve
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:56:52 EST From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: economy picking Message-ID: <a40577b2.34fd95e6@aol.com>
>>I just >don't understand the "economy picking" is cheating or produces inferior timing >or tone.
the only way i see economy picking as cheating is cheating yourself, because when i used to pick that way and didn't know it, i always had problems with ascending fast runs, then when i started religeous alternate picking my speed improved dramatically, i was really amazed how much strict alternate picking helped my speed and technique.
Rocky
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:31:59 EST From: Angus53 <Angus53@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: German? Message-ID: <3f729256.34fd9e21@aol.com>
Nein! Du canst nicht die Name auf Saigon Kick inst ungluck gezahgen. Nein! Nein!!! Ich vais nicht. Fier discos und ich liebe alles.
My reply to this is, "uh, okay, whatever". In reference to all questions, I wasn't bashing Saigon Kick. I rather enjoy listening to The Lizard. I was simply making a statement about them disapearing off the face of the earth. Unless they have been spitting out new albums that I havn't seen. Then I would have to eat my words and go check it out. I'm out....
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 13:25:01 -0500 From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net> To: Keeper of the Seven Ytses <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Crystal Planet (again) Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980304132501.0068d284@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Matt inquired: >OK, questions about the new Satch. I play bass, not guitar, and most >"guitarist" albums don't appeal to me because of their one-dimensional >style. I generally get bored with songs that are little more than >vehicles for solos. Ignoring his incredible soloing, then, and >expanding to a larger view, does the *music* stand on its own? I >understand Stu Hamm plays on the album--does he play on all the tracks, >or just one or two?
Stu plays on all the tracks, and the production is such so that you can actually make him out in the mix. Great sound. As for the music itself -- it definitely stands on its own. This isn't just a showoff album (although there are plenty of guitarists who will be weeping at their own paltry abilities after hearing it) and it isn't one-dimensional. The songwriting absolutely shines.
>The reviews seem really encouraging, enough that I am definitely >leaniong towards buying it, but I do want to be sure that it's an album >with appeal broader than just for the guitarist out there.
I've been listening to "Crystal Planet" more or less nonstop since I picked it up yesterday afternoon. Let me put it this way: If you're a musician -- of ANY stripe -- and/or you appreciate well-written, well-played music, you will love this disc.
Ta, Phil
========================================================= Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals Currently playing: Joe Satriani -- "Crystal Planet"
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:35:56 -0600 (CST) From: Glenn Waterfield <lwaterfi@eecs.uic.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Equipment ranting: Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980304122902.2201B-100000@grover.eecs.uic.edu>
Just to jump on the "My rig is a ..." thread, I have:
'81 Fender Precision Special w/maple fretboard and a rock maple body and loaded with EMG P&J's and brass hardware.
The finish was stripped off by the former owner. My former drummer dropped it, cracking the body in half. I glued it back together. The finish is wearing off the fretboard in some spots, giving those notes a nice rich tone. The more it gets beaten up, the better it sounds.
Playing it is like swinging a Caddy through the slalom, but it sounds like a million bucks. Take that, you Ibanez cheaters! :)
Glenn
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ L. Glenn Waterfield "Call for your physics reading today!" Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean everyone isn't out to get you. Argonne National Lab Waterfield@anl.gov ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:07:16 -0600 (CST) From: The Phoenix <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: German? (Saigon Kick) Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980304130317.26293C-100000@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>
> My reply to this is, "uh, okay, whatever". In reference to all questions, I > wasn't bashing Saigon Kick. I rather enjoy listening to The Lizard. I was > simply making a statement about them disapearing off the face of the earth. > Unless they have been spitting out new albums that I havn't seen. Then I > would have to eat my words and go check it out. I'm out....
SK actually has 2 albums after the Lizard (Water and Devil in the Details). Those 2 tend to be my favorites, too. And they have plans for a new SK release sometime this year as well as a release under the name Flat. Jason Bieler also has a solo album you can order from BVB music over the net as well as an SK album full of demos and b-sides called Moments from the Fringe. Check out www.bvbmusic.com and www.saigonkick.com (I'm pretty sure these are the addresses...I'm going form memory here).
-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- | Robert Taylor The world may seem flown away | | rctaylor@uiuc.edu Almost as if it cannot be saved | | The Phoenix Will we be able to rise | | From these ashes we've sown | -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:19:30 +0000 From: someone@prognosis.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Seventh Ascending Pyramid of Apoco - Lips Message-ID: <199803041917.LAA24022@odin.ax.com>
> From: AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com> > Subject: Shawn Lane!
Supposedly he's got a new one coming out with modern jazz guitar LEGEND Mike Stern, among other greats. Look forward to the most impossible disc ever... Lane for technique, and Stern for impossibly creative improv! ---------- > From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
> True, but I think that, percentage-wise, more guitarists are self-taught, > so the odds are that a random pianist will have more change to have no real > theory knowledge, which I think is more in line with the original warning > against learning theory from Joe Random Guitarist.
Well, I don't know about this. Most of the keyboardists I've met are self taught as well... not even if that's not representative of the true percentages, you can't deny that the majority of pianists who are not self taught, are taught by "Corner Music Store" types, and thus get the same education as a guitarist would. Half the point Cal was making was that getting lessons from a "guitar player" instead of a professor or vocational school instructor is the origin of the problem. If your lessons come from someone who hasn't educated himself or herself to the level of truly understanding theory, then it's a mistake to take theory lessons from from that person. But again, it has nothing to do with the choice of instruments. ------------- > From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
> While I was at NAMM, I noticed that Schecter Guitars makes 7 strings. I > haven't played one, but Schecter is a very high quality shop. Perhaps someone > out there has had experience with the Schecter 7 string?
Used to make 7 strings: Gibson, Fender, and Hamer Currently making 7 strings: Ibanez, Greco, Schecter, Conklin, every archtop company... anyone want to add to this list? I'd love to find out about more real companies making 7 beaners.
> I like this guy. Great sense of humor. However, by bringing up economy > picking, I never meant to imply that alternate picking is inferior. I just > don't understand the "economy picking" is cheating or produces inferior timing > or tone. If anything, I've notice economy pickers get a very fluid tone.
I have never said that I consider economy picking to be inferior. Only that it has its own problems (like Alternate picking) and since MOST of my favorite players alternate pick, I'd rather not take my chances. If you went to MI and never heard anyone knock economy picking, then it must be a new era over there. I have friends and former teachers who went to MI and I was told all kinds of stories about people bashing other players for minor things like this. As for it being cheating, I don't share this belief, but I've heard and read interviews from many players who say it's "cheating" to economy pick... and as I said, the only possible reason I can come up with for this, is that those players think you should have to do the same amount of work as they did to reach their speeds. Having done both, I absolutely believe it is harder to alternate pick than economy pick. Doesn't make one wrong and one right. Where tone is concerned, there should be minimal difference (but by nature, there has to be some) between an upstroke and a downstroke. The difference between the techniques shows up more in the style of the player. Economy pickers tend to sound more legato. They tend to pick more lightly, because it is hard to keep an even speed when sweeping and picking heavily. If you don't understand the timing issue, then maybe you don't sweep pick with your metronome enough. Try sweep picking (any standard 2 or 3 octave sweep) with the metronome and keep the note values to 16th notes. Start slow, and work up speed. At the slow extremes, it's easy... at the high extremes, you have trouble noticing flaws. In the middle it is hard to keep it even. I don't believe that there is anyone who sweep picks who has never encountered this problem... in fact, if someone says they haven't, I'm more inclined to believe it's a lie. I had a buddy who thought he was the shit, and said "If you can sweep well fast, you can sweep slow." Needless to say, he failed the test.
> Not at all. In fact, I think alternate picking tends to make guitar players > too dependent on the downstroke.
If an alternate picker always starts with a downstroke, he will become dependent on the downstroke. If he practices starting on an upstroke, as well as starting on a downstroke, there will be no problem. Your statement tends to ring true, but only because not enough attention is given to the upstroke.
> Let me give you an example. If an alternate > picker wants to play a passage using straight septuplets (no not the seven > freak show babies) and wanted to simply accent the first note of each beat, he > would alternate between a downstroke accent and upstroke accent. I bet the > alternate picker would have more trouble with the accent.
I have certainly put a lot of time into practicing odd numbered sequences, and have never had a problem with this sort of thing. The reason I suspect that the economy picker would be the one to have trouble with exercises like the one you mention above would be that there will be times when he or she has to accent the second swept note, and not the first. It's one picking motion, so it must be a pain to accent one note instead of both.
> Economy picking actually takes away the preference of an upstroke or > downstroke. Like I said, I alternate picked for the first 3 years of my > guitar playins, so I know its effects.
I've picked both ways too, and I can't imagine why you think that economy picking solves this problem. The only thing it solves is the problem of hitting the next higher string with an upstroke, instead of a downstroke, and that kind of thing. You still make the EXACT same motion when you hit an upstroke... the problem you're mentioning comes from not practicing the upstroke enough.
> So I throw the question back at alternate pickers - do you have problems > accenting or beginning runs with an upstroke? I sure as hell don't.
That comes, as I said, from practicing both ways. If YOU as an economy picker only started licks on a downstroke, you would have the problem you mention. Just because you sweep a note doesn't change the majority of the notes you pick. The problems I've noticed tend to only occur in the beginnings of runs started on an upstroke... when you hit the next highest string with an upstroke, it's incredibly easy to accent it.. easier than a downstroke, for me. I think most of this is a mental thing, and not a physical problem, though. --------------- > From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil>
> instrument that was that expensive. It felt like a $500 guitar that was > $1500 because it had seven strings on it...
To be fair, I've played $2000 Ibanez guitars that feel like they should be dartboards, and not guitars. It depends on which design it is. With the 7 string Ibanez guitars, you either like em or you don't, because they all feel very similar. If you don't like the body wood, you can easily have a new body made.. that's a very inexpensive part of the instrument. I may have this done eventually, just for fun. :)
"Apathy is the "suckbird" on cynicism's bloated carcass." - Dennis Miller
Chris Ptacek someone@prognosis.com http://www.prognosis.com/madsman Go Home and Practice!
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