YTSEJAM Digest 3619
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Look, mama! There's an airplane up in the sky.... BOOM! heheheh
by Eckie <eckie@asu.edu>
2) Re: QR's new guitarist
by Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3618
by Loren <lcaler@flash.net>
4) LTW / CiANITG / NM
by Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
5) Jap HY single review
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
6) Laser's Edge/KotRT
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
7) Re: Jap HY single review
by Rick Audet <ytse@concentric.net>
8) TENDONITIS !!
by Dave <hwoodson@ix.netcom.com>
9) Re: Jap HY single review
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
10) Rudess/Morgenstein, Scotland, and instruments
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
11) Re: He started it
by Marc van der Wal <bigpapa@dds.nl>
12) Re: Mr. So & So
by Marc van der Wal <bigpapa@dds.nl>
13) Petrucci/Portnoy-clinic review
by Esa Virtanen <esavirt@cc.jyu.fi>
14) DT in Helsinki 4/3 review
by Esa Virtanen <esavirt@cc.jyu.fi>
15) Hi there
by Michael Zachariadis <mzahar@atlas.uoa.gr>
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 23:07:21 -0700
From: Eckie <eckie@asu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Look, mama! There's an airplane up in the sky.... BOOM! heheheh
Message-ID: <34FF9299.3435D880@imap1.asu.edu>
:^|
~Eckie Again
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:02:32 -0600
From: Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: QR's new guitarist
Message-ID: <34FF9178.D5F@bellsouth.net>
Man, that would be a dream, to have Moore with QR. Now, DeGarmo leaving
is a loss, but hell, I think that getting Moore in there would make QR
an even BETTER band, if its possible...:)
He's a great keyboardist, and coupled with Geoff Tate's voice, which is
probably the most amazing I've ever heard, Queensyrche would be the
greatest band out there.
Tate will keep QR sounding the same, since he is the heart and soul of
the band's sound....DeGarmo was a factor but let's face it, QR would not
have survived losing Tate....
> Not trying to start the rumor mill or anything. Was talking to some
> friends about QR ('Ryche, that is), their new guitarist, who would be
> great, stuff
> like that.
>
> I put forth this idea: What if QR's new "guitarist" was...
>
> KevMo
>
> I guess it wouldn't be quite Kev's line of interest. I mean, he did leave
> DT for some reason, and to go to a band of musical importance
> like QR would seem like getting into the same old thing...
>
> But listening to Kev's demos, his stuff leans more toward 'Ryche than
> it does DT. It's not a complete match, just similar on occasions.
>
> I think it would be really cool to hear SDV sung by Tate. Maybe put a
> little
> more emotion and dynamics into it. LaBrie on Awake sounds detached,
> just Like Kev did in the demo...maybe that's what they were going for,
> like
> on TAMP.
>
> The Wilton/Moore combination for leads would be fantastic. It would make
> some of the older songs strange though.
>
> Well sirs, what do you think?
>
-- Geaux Tigers!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/la/qryche/index.html "I Know If I Try, I'll Get Where I'm Going/ Keeping My Eyes On the Sky" -"Some People Fly" by Queensryche------------------------------
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:38:51 -0600 (CST) From: Loren <lcaler@flash.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3618 Message-ID: <199803060638.AAA04980@endeavor.flash.net>
>No songs were 'butchered' as you so nicely put it. >No one except the band and KS know who changed what on FII. >To blame KS for this is unfair and to put words into his mouth is >insane. >Perhaps you should do what I did with my FII CD, which BTW i think >is brilliant. >I made a CDR of all the FII demo's available from various sources >bought a slimeline double CD jewel case and made my FII into a double >CD, one regular FII and a CDR of FII demo's together.
Well.....if TAMP wasn't butchered, then what do you call it? Anyways.....let's drop that subject already. And unfortunately, I'm not that finacially endowed as to own a CDR, so I guess I'll have to suffer with the .mp3's for now :).
>Yeah but if JP and MP weren't satisfied with the job of KS on FII >do you think they would have woked with him again and so soon ?
I was under the impression that the recording of LTE was right after, or possibly during, the FII recording sessions. I could be TOTALY wrong here though! :)
>Life's a bitch huh ? :)
Yup.........it is at that.
>Well I nominate you Loren to produce DT next album, had any previous >experince ?
No, but where do I sign up!?!?!
>N.B. this message contains 'sarcasm'
Mine as well........ ;>
Someone else said: >Vocals - FII is definitely the best sounding vocals. All the other albums >sounded like KJLB was singing behind a heavy cotton ball. Definite woofiness >on the others.
I've always preferred Awake over any other DT album for the vocals. I thought that it was the clearest album hands down.
>Guitar - Awake definitely had the best guitar sound. I think the guitar >sounded very meaty, while also retaining definition. ACOS was meaty, but lost >some definition. FII just has the guitar mixed too low. Yet it sounds great >on LitS.
Agree with ya on the guitar on Awake though. C'mon, The Mirror??? :)
>Bass - This is a hard one.
Hmmmmm....I think it's a toss up between Awake and FII for me. Although I do LOVE the Tung. It has such a unique sound.
Well, that's just my 0.02!
-Loren
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:21:34 -0600 (CST) From: Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu> To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: LTW / CiANITG / NM Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.980306002051.7607A-100000@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
[in reference to the clip from Liquid Tension Experiment availible at: http://www.skidmore.edu/~ebonomi/mp3.html ]
> From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> > anyone notice a small similarity to Caught In Alice's Nine Inch Garden > Tool?
Hey, Mike, how could you notice the similarity between that clip and CiANITG, and *not* (I'm assuming since you didn't mention) notice that that section from CiANITG was almost exactly transplanted into the beginning of New Millenium on FII? Give it a listen, it's practically the same...
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o / | Pat Griffin Reality Squared Design | | gabbo@dreamt.org shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 19:15:48 +1100 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Jap HY single review Message-ID: <34FFB0B4.EBBFFEA8@sydney.net>
I got the Jap HY single today :) Tracks are as per German pressing, with two extra live tracks being 'Burning My Soul' and 'Another Hand/The Killing Hand' Both were recorded on October 14th 1996 at Old Bridge, New Jersey. Sound quality is good, though nothing spectacular. BMS is complete with 'Hell's Kitchen' in the middle and TKH is the re worked version with different/extra instrumental bits. The cover is much the same as the German pressing, only the liner opens out and includes full credits for each song. Their is also an insert with lyrics to all the songs. I also listened to the new Yngwie in the shop, his Concerto' album I was slighly disappointed with what I heard as per usual Yngwie IMO spoils the great classic/orchestral music by playing at wharp speed 10 at every available moment :)
graham
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:57:02 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Laser's Edge/KotRT Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-980306085702Z-29186@ms.Kallback.com>
>From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net> >Subject: Re: Oops; Laser's Edge promptness? >On an unrelated note, how quickly does the Laser's Edge send stuff out >usually? I placed a 6-disc order with 'em what seems like two-three weeks >ago and haven't seen or heard anything. Of course, I *could* just call Ken >Golden and ask him what's up, but I'd rather not bother him if someone >here tells me that two-three weeks is normal. Dude, I'm in the same boat. I ordered 22 discs (thanks, IRS) exactly three weeks ago and have not received them. I think I'll send him a reminder today.
I also faxed an order to Knights of the Round. Their order form says you will receive a confirmation and total within 48 hours and if not, to contact them. Well, I didn't get the confirmation and refaxed the order but still have not heard back from them days later. I've ordered from them before, and was satisfied, but I'm kinda worried this time. >Joe Satriani rulez (just your Daily Reminder to BUY "CRYSTAL PLANET". >NOW). I'll buy it tomorrow I swear. Trevor > >
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 01:53:16 -0800 From: Rick Audet <ytse@concentric.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Jap HY single review Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980306015311.0072de94@pop3.concentric.net>
Graham Boyle wrote:
>I got the Jap HY single today :) >Tracks are as per German pressing, with two extra >live tracks being 'Burning My Soul' and 'Another Hand/The Killing Hand' >Both were recorded on October 14th 1996 at Old Bridge, New Jersey.
You mean December 14 ? Or maybe there's a typo on the CD liner ?
Rick Audet
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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 22:56:11 -0500 From: Dave <hwoodson@ix.netcom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: TENDONITIS !! Message-ID: <34E6675B.30F6@ix.netcom.com>
> I'm paying for it now but a wrist brace > helps big time, same with doing the excercises (if anyone > wants to know them, email me) > ----I need it !! I'm getting tendonitis form hitting my fucking page down button so much !!! What's with EVEYONE on the jam that knows ANYthing about guitar playing having to post it all at once !! I mean please fellows, I know this is for open talk etc..yadda..etc...but 30 and 50+ liners about how to stroke 20 FREAKIN times a day ?? Hell, I should be able to play the hell out of one from all this info !!
GO PLAY...leave the computer off for a second.
Zildjian
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 21:37:18 +1100 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Jap HY single review Message-ID: <34FFD1DE.F7B53F1D@sydney.net>
Rick Audet wrote: > You mean December 14 ? Or maybe there's a typo on the CD liner ?
Sheeeeeeeeeeet, no my glasses need to be replaced pronto, sorry yes December 14th is correct :)
/me gives myself a stiff upper cut to the scon....
graham
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:34:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Rudess/Morgenstein, Scotland, and instruments Message-ID: <Marcel-1.41-0306103440-0b0rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>
Will I enjoy seeing Rudess/Morgenstein supporting DT? I was actually looking forward to seeing Vanden Plas opening again.
A month or two ago, there was a brief thread about the best singer/songwriter ever to come out of Scotland. Could someone remind me who won? Have I heard of him/her?
The easiest instrument to learn is the microphone. You just make noises into it.
Graham
-- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:33:22 +0100 (MET) From: Marc van der Wal <bigpapa@dds.nl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: He started it Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.90.980306122351.27527A-100000@fatima.dds.nl>
Op Thu, 5 Mar 1998 someone@prognosis.com schreef:
> Don't retaliate by pretending that you are above other > instrumentalists. The fact of the matter is, it is NOT that > difficult to learn to play two parts at once. The difficulties in > doing so are very similar to learning two parts at once for classical > and fingerpicking guitar. Actually it can be kinda difficult in the beginning. Especially when the two parts are really different from each other (different time signatures, one part loud and the other not or one part staccato and the other part normal, etc). There's more to it than just hitting a key. When you just start practicing these things may feel unnatural, and I think taking lessons will definately help.
> I stand by my belief that there is no > superior instrument, and it's no easier to become a true master of > one than it is to become a master of another. Me too.
Marc
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:35:34 +0100 (MET) From: Marc van der Wal <bigpapa@dds.nl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Mr. So & So Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.90.980306123355.27527B-100000@fatima.dds.nl>
Op Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Rick Audet schreef: > It's nice to know such a good band hasn't passed away. Thanks Chris, and > once again thanks to Aaron "DJ Kuul A" Silverman for telling me about this > band in the first place.
I saw they will be playing some festival with other prog-bands this summer.
Maybe there'll be a European tour or something??
Marc
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:45:05 +0200 (EET) From: Esa Virtanen <esavirt@cc.jyu.fi> To: Ytseland <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Petrucci/Portnoy-clinic review Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980306134320.6479A-100000@kanto.cc.jyu.fi>
Review of Petrucci/Portnoy-clinic in Helsinki follows. This might be long.
MP and JP held a clinic together in the Tavastia-club (where the band played last time they were in Finland) on the 3rd. The show was scheduled to start at 18:00, but I had some spare time after arriving to Helsinki I showed up at the doors about an hour earlier. However, the soundcheck was late, so the doors were opened at 18:30. Being there so early I was pretty confident I'd get a good place. However, the frontmost door to the club itself - where I was queuing - was opened last, but I managed to get to something like the second row.
The venue was small and so was the stage. It was bad (having to stand three hours or so in the crowd with wintercoats on, etc.) but also good in the sense that the guys were really near to the audience.
Mikey P. was the first to do his stuff. I'm not going to bore you with the details, but he basically started with a drum solo and then proceeded to talk about some of his techniques, especially time sigs. Of course he also showed how he plays DT-stuff, answered questions, but probably the coolest thing was having him play several Liquid Tension Experiment songs along to a CD. Really, if I'm not going to have my hands of this disc the day it arrives in Finland, I'm getting murderous. It's VERY intense, fast and just plain sick. So of course I love it. More of LTE was played before the actual DT show the next day, but more of that later.
Anyway, Mike was really fun to watch and listen to, even from a guitarist's point of view. The man has a great sense of humour - and I don't know if you've noticed, but he ain't no slouch on that drum kit, either.
After Mike had done his stuff there was a brief break to set up JP's stuff (just a Mark IV with a Lexicon delay through a 4x12 cabinet) and monitors. And before we knew it, there he was, shredding, doing the classical "foot-on-monitor" -rock pose. Now I thought Mike was close to the audience, but JP was virtually stepping on the front row's guys' fingers. John looked all cool and hunky with his tight green shirt and brown pants. And there I was, looking straight up his crotch :) Really the only way that I could've been more in heaven would have required me to have slightly less conventional sexual preferences. He really must have been working out or something. Also, he had shaved, only adding to his boyish charm.
BTW, I had two cameras with me to the clinic - one digital and my other, conventional one. For some reason, the regular film camera didn't like the lighting, even with the flashlight, so I really didn't use it all that much (I did take some shots, but I have no idea how they'll turn out). The digital camera did work, and I tried made up for the other camera with it. Of course, the quality isn't quite as good, but it's pretty good for digital. And the PCMCIA hard disk holds well over 1000 pictures, so I just kept on snapping away. The best pics and probably some other stuff can be found soon or already at http://www.jyu.fi/~esavirt/music, so check them out.
Anyway, John also played lots of LTE, Purple Rain, the two Necronomicon songs among other things. He also said that he recorded Purple Rain and if I understand correctly The Flight Of The Bumblebee for a record which also features many other guitarists. Anybody know anything about this? Definately another must have. He also went through his setup, answered questions and did all the other typical stuff.
And thus the clinic was over. Mike and John were waiting outside the doors, signing pictures, CDs and just about anything that was thrown at them. I got my picture taken with JP, had my I&W signed (I had misplaced my FII, but I wasn't complaining) and also got the signed photographs. The guys were of course friendly and polite but I naturally acted like an idiot trying to juggle two cameras, the I&W case and leaflet, a heavy-as-hell-backpack, and the two photos all at once. Mike did complement on my Ytseshirt, asked me if I was on the 'jam and told me to write a good report. And that's what I'm doing (well.. dunno about the "good" part though). Still, I really can't stress enought how nice and considerate Mike and John P. were, and they both had a really good sense of humour. I also spoke with the employees of the store that arranged the clinic, and they also had only positive things to say. So, if you're reading: you rule, and not just on the instruments.
Oh, I also got a bootleg from a store right next to the club the clinic was held at and got a 2CD bootleg called Small Club Adventure, from Amsterdam, April 14th 1997. It's really the same show as Caught In Amsterdam, probably the same source tape as well - brilliant sound quality and everything.
Next up: the concert.
-+- Esa Virtanen <esavirt@cc.jyu.fi>, http://www.jyu.fi/~esavirt
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:47:50 +0200 (EET) From: Esa Virtanen <esavirt@cc.jyu.fi> To: Ytseland <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT in Helsinki 4/3 review Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980306134509.6479B-100000@kanto.cc.jyu.fi>
This might well contain some spoilers, so reader discretion is adviced.
I got to the venue (the House of Culture in Helsinki) at about 19:20. The doors to the hall would be opened at 20:00 and the show would start at 21:00. I wasn't really concerned in getting to the absolute front at the show, since I had a really good view at the clinic and JP would be the guy whose fingers I would be staring if given half a chance. I was probably around 100th at the queue, but somehow I managed to be 4th at one of the two doors to the hall itself. So I ended at the center of the very first row. Didn't complain, though.
Before Vanden Plas came on, Liquid Tension Experiment was played through the PA. A long song that had to be Three Minute Warning was played first. Now, that song wasn't really that good (it also got pretty unfavorable comments from a couple of guys standing next to me), but you have to take an improv like that for what it it. And the first listen to a complex, long song like that really doesn't give an objective view. But the rest of the songs were great - as they were at the clinic.
And then Vanden Plas. I've had The God Thing for a few months now, and I think it's OK. Not great, though, as most others seem to find. The songs are IMHO bit monotonic and don't have a lot of dynamics. I thought the singer was really good live. Also, the guitarist was OK, but really played only distorted chords, fast scale stuff and the occasional clean tone arpeggios, and it got a bit boring after a while. But all in all, it was a good show from them.
Then, as the stage was prepared, some unreleased stuff was played. Cover My Eyes, Where Are You Now, Raise The Knife and Speak To Me (I think). I got all riled up when Rooster started playing, but the show actually started only after the Clockwork Orange theme.
I suppose the setlist was about the same as in most of the shows before, with a few changes. The starting number was Lines In The Sand, I ditched my earplugs during the first few bars and the crowd went nuts. The audience was really, really pumped. I have bruises in my chest from being pushed against the barrier, but that wasn't a problem. OTOH, what was a bit irritating, were the slightly drunk headbangers who for most of the show stared into the distance and after a heavy part (eg. The Mirror) had gone on for a while their eyes slowly lit up and started headbanging like maniacs. And they all seemed to end up next to me. Oh well. It was kind of interesting that everyone except Myung played an unaccompanied solo. LaBrie did an a capella -version of some Supertramp song. He also said that the audience could clap a rhythm - a big mistake, since the beat was inevitably rushed. But he made it through nicely. Actually, his performance was stellar throughout the show. He hit all the high notes and then some perfectly. At the encore his voice was just a slight bit worn, though, but that's understandable.
Derek played a really cool solo, first doing some stuff on the keyboard riser, then sustained a note and moved to do some stuff on a Trinity that was wheeled right up to the front of the stage. John P. did a classic long spotlight solo, starting with with some of your basic "blues riffs on steroids" and then proceeding to absolutely rip (wonder if he's been reading the jams about the fastest guitar players lately?) through Flight Of The Bumblebee and other stuff. He did make a slight mistake trying to do one of his "harmonics with whammy flurrys"-things (he also messed up ever so slightly during the fast run in the fasten your seatbelts-solo of ytsejam, and the other guys did also a few mistakes (not like I really mind at all - I'm just trying to prove myself that these guys are also just human:)).
And Mike did the drum solo during Ytsejam, including the audience drumming part. Especially the second drummer was actually really, really good. So congrats to you, whoever you were.
Derek seemed to be mixed too low for most of the time, one couldn't even hear all of the solos all that well. Also, for some reason the audience reaction to his solos wasn't nearly as good as for Petruccis' solos. But I thought he was brilliant, even though I'm more of a analogue synth sound (in the vein of Emerson, Moore and Johansson) kind of a guy. At least he seemed to have lots of fun, trading looks and smiles with Mike throughout the show. Also there was some drumstick throwing going on between Derek, Mike and some of the roadies during a couple of songs.
The encore was probably the coolest ever: Metropolis which segued into Learning to Live which segued into The Crimson Sunset, ending with the intro from A Fortune In Lies. No Nightmare Cinema, but the drum-, bass-, and guitartechs took their respective instruments and did the "Darkness imprisoning me"-part from One with Portnoy on vocals, which was fun. I also caught JP's pick, which was nice, since I play Jazz III's myself and thus saved 2 FIM.
I didn't have time to stick around after the show, but all in all, a great gig, and a great experience for me. And oh yeah, LaBrie promised a new album for 1999, so they'd better not be so late again :) Also, Petrucci said at the clinic that Met. pt. 2 would probably be on it. So now I'll just wait for that.
-+- Esa Virtanen <esavirt@cc.jyu.fi>, http://www.jyu.fi/~esavirt
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 14:07:13 +0200 From: Michael Zachariadis <mzahar@atlas.uoa.gr> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hi there Message-ID: <34FFE6F0.C4188D87@cc.uoa.gr>
Hi there progsters
My name is Mike (newcomer). I don't know if anyone know anything about Empty Tremor, a new prog band. Anyway here is a part of an e-mail I got from them, it might interest some of you.
<<I'd ask you if you'd like to receive some promo stuffs for promotion in your place cause we are trying to continue what the great DT has created with I&W:
THE TRUE PROG METAL!!!
We'd like to fight against the trend of Labels (also our....) that are producing only alternative and cold commercial operations to get the maximum money and influencing all the young listners to that kind of music. A process that unfortunately has disturbed also our great teachers ans inspirator....(DT):-( I like Falling much too, but I think that you all guys when you listen I&W really think what DT could have been able to do with no producers around to contaminate and deviate their natural musical creation process...
EMPTY TREMOR is signed with RISING SUN for europe and for FANDANGO records for japan (+1 bonus trk)and have been considered very close to Dream Theater for their way of making sicere prog metal music by many reviews, although absolutely not clones.
The reality is that EMPTY TREMOR is not much knowed all around the planet cause their labels are not beliving anymore in prog metal unfortunately.
Some reviews of APOCOLOKYNTOPSYS album can be found at: http://www.onr.com/progress/etrev.html http://home.nordnet.fr/~lbocquet/new.html
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9793/tremor.html http://www.intonet.co.uk/~derekdaniel/emptytremor.htm
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2643/reviews.html
This is the famous HEADY METAL of Corey McHenzie site review :
Current Lineup:
Giovanni De Luigi: Lead & backing vocals Christian Tombetti: Electric & acoustic guitars Marco Guerrini: Electric & acoustic guitars Daniele Liverani: Keyboards Stefano Ruzzi: Drums Dennis Randi: Bass
So if you love I&W DT like I and the guys of the band love, you could consider of taking a look also at this very promising young (16/19y) band that is working really hard to get some good music for you and for keeping prog metal alive in the world against the trend and the selling packages that we must listen every day from the bands we love that are forced to leave their talent at home and build products for a machine called businnes...
We'll work against that full time but we need you help to survive.
Give us a chance and listen to the samples you will find at our official fan club site in Germany owned by the great Arash Ashouira at the following address:
http://lionel.kr.fh-niederrhein.de/~ashouria/empty.htm
If you like them get back to us, if not thanks for you time anyway...
Always Stay Prog !!!!! and another wish....
We want our great teachers free from evil producers contaminations !!!! Let Dream Theater and prog metal as they naturally got into our souls !!!!!
Daniele Liverani EMPTY TREMOR info & homepage: http://www.akros.it/emptytremor/index.html>
Check them out!!! :)
I hope that the debate about YM will come to an end. He was great when he started, but now I think he' s old news.
On the M* debate: Here in GREECE we call them kontomalika which means short(konto) hair(mali) (-ika).
That's for now. Stay Heavy, stay Metal, stay Prog, but most of all stay Jammer.
Michael
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