YTSEJAM Digest 3613
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Symphony X playing in the US.
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
2) whee!
by Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3611
by Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
4) Self taught & Petrucci's shredding
by q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
5) hair photos?
by Jason Hartman <lhartm1@ds1.GL.UMBC.EDU>
6) Tangential Reality.
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3612
by Richard Warren <rwarren@ixlmemphis.com>
8) THIS IS NOT ME!
by Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
9) BOSS ME-30
by Fernando Yokota <yokota@intervale.com.br>
10) Re: THIS IS NOT ME!
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
11) Re: THIS IS NOT ME!
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
12) Re: Memphis
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
13) European shows
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
14) Re: Fender bad? *boggle*
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
15) Four pointless responses. I'm tired.
by Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com>
16) Watch out rocky...
by "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com>
17) Yadda Yadda
by someone@prognosis.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:59:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Symphony X playing in the US.
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980304195715.9030A-100000@mariner.cris.com>
Dr. Mosh wrote:
> That remains to be seen...
Bah, what the hell do *you* care. You don't even like Symphony X. :)
Rick Audet
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 20:26:48 -0500
From: Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: whee!
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980304202648.0069ea24@scott.skidmore.edu>
Liquid Tension Experiment! There is a 5 minute or so mp3 of a section of
"Three Minute Warning" on my mp3 page now, for all those interested.
Thanks for your time.
Erica
Erica Bonomi, ebonomi@skidmore.edu
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Deedlit or Deedo on irc.dreamt.org 2112
emergency: pootersox@bonomi.connix.com
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http://www.skidmore.edu/~ebonomi/
Check here for the mp3 of the week!
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:22:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3611
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.980304202018.4090C-100000@nj5.injersey.com>
Re: pianists
--Damon I think you are nuts. Piano is not an easy ninstrument to learn. With guitar, you can learn a bunch of power chords and be Green Daty or the equivalent. Look at how many guitarists are half-assedly making money and feel that they don't need to do any better since they have achieved the rock and rolldream. piano, on the other hand, is much harder to fake. A pianist needs to know technique, theory, and have good left and right hand independence. We need to know so much more just to sound good, because there is no such thing as power chords on a piano and no way of faking through things in the way that bar choards and such are for guitarists. Fibraio, damon74@injersey.com Keyboards, vocals, musical slut I'll play for money. Enquire if interested. "One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of Radio, 1980
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:50:48 -0800 From: q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Self taught & Petrucci's shredding Message-ID: <34FF0218.3E80@mail.connect.usq.edu.au>
>>Once again, I really think I should give up guitar...John Petrucci is >>God. (The "self-indulging" wanking by JP just makes me want to kill >>myself >>it's so awesome!)
I'm a self taught guitarist. I learnt Piano for years when I was a kid and just used what I picked up to teach myself guitar. I'm also not very good. But I don't care...I have fun...and therefore I think my low budget Ibanez RG series 7 string is great...about a thousand times better than my old Les Paul copy which Thor could have used for a hammer.
As for Petrucci....I hate him :) That guy is such an inspiration he makes me want to give up as well. For me to be that good seems like trying to run a 10 second hundred metres on my hands...but I'll keep pluggin away and listening to DT anyway!
Cheers
Paul D.
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 21:13:16 -0500 From: Jason Hartman <lhartm1@ds1.GL.UMBC.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: hair photos? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980304211316.00708ea0@pop.gl.umbc.edu>
A while back, someone posted the address of a site that had a recent photo of the boys and their new buzz cuts, etc. I must have misplaced it. I'd like to check 'em out. Can someone repost the addy?
Thanks
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:14:37 -0700 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tangential Reality. Message-ID: <01bd47dc$72ac17a0$1b0d84d0@safelink.safelink.net>
>There's no picks to worry about or anything. Wait, then I couldn't run around >on the stage. I could only lift up one side of the keyboard and move it >around. Or I'd have to put on a big, gay keyboard axe and run around. No >thanks.
GAY?!?!?!? GAY?!?!?!?!? D-Man? What's your opinion?
>I don't know that that's true. I thinka lot of pianists are self-taught >because the instrument is so easy to play. You hit a key, you get a note.
EASY?!?!?! EASY?!?!?!? You think keyboards are easy, you oughtta see the secretary I work with.
>Stu plays on all the tracks, and the production is such so that you can >actually make him out in the mix. Great sound.
Yah, the only problem I have with the bass is it's fatter than Aunt Lynne. It almost hogs the mix in my opinion and it's hard to separate the notes. But it does kick so much ass!
>"oops." Randy Rhoads.Dee
hahah. Does anyone know where to find a full tab for this? I go one off of OLGA a long time ago and it was pretty good and close, but it's missing some of the more intricate work. It has to be one of my more favorite acoustic pieces to play.
Wouldn't you like the world to sing... In perfect harmony? --CokeX3
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 20:25:04 -0600 From: Richard Warren <rwarren@ixlmemphis.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3612 Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980304202459.007048a4@popmail.ixlmemphis.com>
>Vince remarked: >>hahah!! Everybody laugh and point, he plays a fender!!! HAHAHAHAH!!!!!! >>;)~ > >Hm. Let's see, how many of the following play or played Fenders? > >Eric Clapton >Joe Stump >Eric Johnson >Stevie Ray Vaughan >Yngwie Malmsteen (oh no, not him again) :) > >Anyone? Anyone? Oh, that's right -- it's all of them, innit?
Hey, you forgot one. How about John Petrucci? Look at his picture on the inside sleeve of the 1997 DTIFC Xmas CD. I can't read the headstock but it looks like a Fender to me.
Later,
Richard Warren rwarren@ixlmemphis.com
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 21:43:30 -0500 From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: THIS IS NOT ME! Message-ID: <34FE1152.E881718D@ic3.ithaca.edu>
> bowsma@pop3.utoledo.edu wrote: > > i used to date this girl, and one day i came home, and she had her bags > packed and was about to leave. i asked her, "Why are you leaving?" She
> replied, "I heard you were a pedophile." and i responded, "Wow...thats a > pretty big word for an 8 year old."
EVERYONE! I DID NOT WRITE THIS! WHOEVER IT IS, IS FUCKING WITH ME. IT WAS NOT FROM MY EMAIL ADDRESS IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE.
-- "Watch religion come and go, Watch corruption on their shows. Buy your silence money for blood, Out of the ark and into the flood..."
- Bruce Dickinson "Lickin' the Gun"
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 23:41:14 -0300 From: Fernando Yokota <yokota@intervale.com.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: BOSS ME-30 Message-ID: <34FE10CA.8F97004B@intervale.com.br>
Do you know where I can find some info on settings for a BOSS ME-30 guitar multi effects?
Thanks
Fernando Yokota yokota@intervale.com.br
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:45:29 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: THIS IS NOT ME! Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980304184402.6662B-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Chris Calabrese wrote:
> >EVERYONE! I DID NOT WRITE THIS! WHOEVER IT IS, IS FUCKING WITH ME. IT >WAS NOT FROM MY EMAIL ADDRESS IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE. >
shhhshhshhhh... it's okay...shhhshhsh... (gives you a big hug)... It's okay... We were making fun of you. We know you had nothing to do with it. In fact, I'm making fun of you *right now*.
Enjoy it while you can. Eventually, you'll die, and you'll have all of eternity to say, "where did my life go?" (grin)
>-- >"Watch religion come and go, > Watch corruption on their shows. > Buy your silence money for blood, > Out of the ark and into the flood..." > > - Bruce Dickinson "Lickin' the Gun" > > >
--Matt
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 21:45:27 -0500 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: THIS IS NOT ME! Message-ID: <199803050245.VAA07776@saranac.cs.wm.edu>
> EVERYONE! I DID NOT WRITE THIS! WHOEVER IT IS, IS FUCKING WITH ME. IT > WAS NOT FROM MY EMAIL ADDRESS IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE.
WE KNOW. THAT'S WHY IT WAS FUNNY AS SHIT.
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:50:14 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Memphis Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980304184832.6662C-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, AlisOn Wonderland wrote:
> >Don't knock the Memphis. My first was a Memphis and after new pick ups >and tuning pegs, my baby so elite. New pickups aren't too expensive. Is >it a full scale? It's the only 3/4 I still have from when I was a kid. >
It's about 7 years old and a full-scale. It's sound is most cool -- I dunno why, but it gets this great crunchy tone with DR's and a Tortex pick... ^_^ Nasty-ass sound. Not necessarily very delicate, but a great rhythm guitar.
I won't knock the Memphis. It *is* a great first guitar.
>-=AlisOn=- > > ```'''```'''```'''```'''```'''```''' > "Let us examine the road by which > the fault has passed" > - Victor Hugo, > Les Miserables > '''```'''```'''```''```'''```'''```' > >
--Matt
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:57:07 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: European shows Message-ID: <199803050257.VAA07031@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
> From: "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se> > Subject: Malmo Setlist, pretty unusual > > Mirror/TTT > NM > Voices > Guitar Solo > Peruvian Skies > Derek,s Solo > Anna Lee > Hollow Years > Just Let Me BReathe > Lie > Ytse Jam > Trial of Tears > Pull Me Under > > Encore medley: > Metropolis > LtL > The Crimson Sunset > Fortune In Lies >
WOW!!! whats going on here... these Europeans are getting all of these amazing shows!!! Hope they do somethng like this when they get back to the States, w/ different sets every day or so... would be very cool...
-- +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ | A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater | | will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity | | --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! | +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/ Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 20:50:33 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Fender bad? *boggle* Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980304205028.006f5a18@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 03:29 PM 3/4/98 -0800, you wrote: >Hm. Let's see, how many of the following play or played Fenders? > >Eric Clapton >Joe Stump >Eric Johnson >Stevie Ray Vaughan >Yngwie Malmsteen (oh no, not him again) :)
...and for clean tone, the glassy single-coils of a fender are pretty cool, but the tone of single-coils with heavy distortion sucks fat donkey nadz. Humbuckers all the way, man. Most Fenders don't have humbuckers, floyd rose trems, or over 21 frets. to me, that's a bit limiting.
Oh yeah, Eric Clapton sucks!! :)
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:05:08 -0600 (CST) From: Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com> To: Just Words <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Four pointless responses. I'm tired. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980304214422.7094A-100000@parka.winternet.com>
]From: K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com>
>>Vinnie Poo: >> Ooooh, bad idea :) There's at least 200 guitarists on this list, > > Yeah, but 195 play Ibanez guitars!
.and between them, they can agree on 197 pronunciations for 'Ibanez.'
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]From: Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com> > This is my 1st. Grand Prix EVER - YESSSSSSSSS!
Mine too! A black '97 GT.
> I hope McLaren-Mercedes wins ;)
Oh, you meant the race and not the car. Oh well.
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
I'm more of a 'Yee-Ha' guy, myself.
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]From: Dave <hwoodson@ix.netcom.com>
>> hmm.. maybe i should try spacing out my air drum kit, its kinda hard >> to with the size of my steering wheel though.. > Hell, use the dash, shifter, window, mirror, ...person in passenger seat > works GREAT for a china cymbol !! :)
Hey, I'm not the only car-driving air-drummer in the world. Cool!
> Tip: keep an unsharpened pencil handy for car drumming !!! Eraser end > works great !!
Nah, I'd hate to die in a crash because my airbag forced my "drumsticks" through my forehead... :/
Tip: wear a neck brace if you plan on lots of double-bass work. :)
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]From: krackley@weidmuller.com
>> I went into Best Buy yesterday. That place has turned into a complete >> dump. [...snip Circus City rant...] > Be happy you even have a Best Buy to bitch about.
Well, the obvious solution is to move to Minneapolis. Roadrunner Records has divider cards for such luminaries as 'Magma' and 'Birdsongs of the Mesozoic.'
Actually, don't come here. Even though we've got a good supply of avante- garde prog and jazz fuzion, we've got nothing for prog metal and neo-prog.
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I think we should save this guitar gear stuff for the next time DT tours in the USA. "You have 743 new messages."
This pointlessness was brought to you by...
--Jay "anyone restarting the 'Ibanez' thread will be flogged" Omega --NP: Magma - Kohntarkosz
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:16:34 -0500 From: "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Watch out rocky... Message-ID: <199803050526.AAA31840@marl0.iacnet.net.>
>kickass, i'll definately go, if i can get other people to go with me.. >everyone can come stay at my place i live in Baltimore =]
Rocky
carefull there boss, I might just take you up on that!!! ;-)
Scott (PunkAss)
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:03:06 +0000 From: someone@prognosis.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Yadda Yadda Message-ID: <199803050500.VAA00558@odin.ax.com>
> From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
> What's the main complaint about low pro trems, just the durability?
The Low Pro is an Ibanez tremolo. It's actually called the "Low Pro Edge" as compared to the regular "Edge" trem. The beef is that the LPE doesn't come NEAR the quality of the regular edge in terms of playability. It doesn't seem to react the same, and I personally don't even LIKE being that low. I believe the Edge trem was the best guitar bridge system ever made... it's perfect in just about every way. ----------- > From: Robban <robban.andersson@swipnet.se> > Subject: 7-Stringed guitars. > > The Really good improvement that Ibanez have been made on the later > models is that they now have All Access Neck Joint which is really > good i can nowadays not play on a guitar with standard neck joint.
Congratulations. You are the first person I've met who has found the All Access neck joint to be of any benefit at all! I guess years of the "No Access" neck joint have got me past any inconveniences they cause. ----------- > From: Anna & Heike Boedeker <boedeker@netcologne.de>
> Thanks for posting this... I at times was on the verge of believing > that we were discussing which technique was more like "politically > correct"... :-)
Well, this is the longest guitar oriented discussion I've seen without a fight breaking out. :) > In another context you mentioned mental problems... I think this > might be a clue, though I not too convinced yet that "simply > practising enough" will help to overcome the physiological default > that it is easier to control two movements of shorter duration than > one of a slightly (as it's meant to provide greater speed) longer > duration.
Well, there's ALWAYS a mental barrier to overcome in your playing. The only players who do not have this problem are the ones with NO BRAINS. If I just wanted to jump in and play a Joe Stump song up to speed, besides the technical aspects, I'd have to overcome the feeling that "I can't compete." On a lesser level, if I play a lick, and it sounds sloppy, even if I know what I have to do to make it better, I have to mentally acknowledge the problem, and approach it calmly. Muscle memory is easy... if you can play nintendo, or type on your computer, you can get that part down. Getting your mind to treat music in the same way it treats the voice is another story altogether. > Another problem that had been raised was how deep to dig in... I > personally stubbornly prefer to dig in quite a lot (resp. vary for a > wider dynamic range's sake) just b/c I like the sound better
Right on! Ever since I heard the power of picking hard, I have been beating the hell out of my strings. I always watch dynamics, though, because it's not always appropriate to emulate Zakk Wylde!
> w/ only minimal movements. Though I agree on the fact that one > should play w/ the wrist instead of the arm, alone for health > reasons, but it also doesn't give you more speed or more strength. > If the latter is your problem rather try Wiener Schnitzel and > Loewenbraeu. :-)
Well, I might argue that the fastest players I've heard (except MICHAEL.ANGELO who has his own technique) all pick from the wrist... that may tell you something.
> > Cheers, > > Heike
> ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 18:08:31 -0500 > From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net> > To: Keeper of the Seven Ytses <ytsejam@ax.com> > Subject: Fender bad? *boggle* > Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980304180831.0069dc68@pop.negia.net> > > > Greetings ye 'jamanoids... > > Vince remarked: > >hahah!! Everybody laugh and point, he plays a fender!!! > >HAHAHAHAH!!!!!! ;)~ > > Hm. Let's see, how many of the following play or played Fenders? > > Eric Clapton > Joe Stump > Eric Johnson > Stevie Ray Vaughan > Yngwie Malmsteen (oh no, not him again) :) > > Anyone? Anyone? Oh, that's right -- it's all of them, innit? > > :) > "Apathy is the "suckbird" on cynicism's bloated carcass." - Dennis Miller
Chris Ptacek someone@prognosis.com http://www.prognosis.com/madsman Go Home and Practice!
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