YTSEJAM Digest 3611
Today's Topics:
1) re: self-taught musicians
by Marc van der Wal <bigpapa@dds.nl>
2) Re: Equipment ranting
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
3) re: self-taught musicians
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
4) Eternity-X
by Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net>
5) Cheetah and kick
by "Matt Halloran" <imemnok@hurricane.gnt.net>
6) Malmo Setlist, pretty unusual
by "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se>
7) Liquid Tension
by Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
8) Los Angeles Music Scene
by <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
9) Re: economy picking
by <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
10) NYC radio
by jpenna@trc.tosco.com
11) dt-concert, malmo, sweden
by andreas <m-12838@mailbox.swipnet.se>
12) Ytsejam Interview with Derek Sherinian
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
13) Ytsejam Fantasy Baseball League
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
14) Fender?
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
15) Re: Fender?
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
16) Re: NYC radio
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
17) Re: Keyboard Technique (and knobbly things)
by Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
18) Re: REVIEW: "Liquid Tension Experiment"--PART TWO
by Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
19) Symphony X playing in the US.
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:29:41 +0100 (MET)
From: Marc van der Wal <bigpapa@dds.nl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: self-taught musicians
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.90.980304202135.4381B-100000@fatima.dds.nl>
Op Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Pat Sullivan schreef:
> I don't know that that's true. I thinka lot of pianists are self-taught
> because the instrument is so easy to play. You hit a key, you get a note. I
> think anyone who was around a piano at all growing up has at least a
> rudimentary knowledge of how to play.
No way. You have to play at least two different lines at the same time.
In complicated pieces, the two hands can do really different things from
each other.
Of course you are right that you only need to hit a key. I think people
could easily learn themselve to play with only one hand.
Marc
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 13:50:02 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Equipment ranting
Message-ID: <34fdb066546d003@mhub3.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:58:23 -0800 (PST)
from Glenn Waterfield <lwaterfi@eecs.uic.edu>:
>
>
>
> Just to jump on the "My rig is a ..." thread
Okay, I'll jump on it too. I have:
An Ibanez "EX Series," which I'm told is a model from around 1994. It's run
through a Radio Shack 1/8" to 1/4" adapter, an RCA cable, and into the
auxilliary input of a 1997 Sharp Dolby Surround Sound Minisystem. I believe
it's a total of 150 watts, but I don't recall off hand.
How's that for a rig! :-)
-Brian
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 13:54:31 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: self-taught musicians
Message-ID: <34fdb16a569d003@mhub3.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:56:18 -0800 (PST)
from Marc van der Wal <bigpapa@dds.nl>:
> Of course you are right that you only need to hit a key. I think people
> could easily learn themselve to play with only one hand.
Before I started taking piano classes here at the good ol' U of M (don't
get impressed, I suck), I taught myself rudimentary fingering and such on
my sister's cheap Casio keyboard. I actually wrote quite a few of the basic
melody lines that my "band" uses on that thing. I purposefully started by
drilling myself on the left hand, which definitely helped me, but I have no
coordination so it's still difficult to play anything where the two hands
are doing something substantiall different.
-Brian
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:59:18 +0300
From: Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Eternity-X
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980304225918.0090fa10@messagebox.com>
Heyee, guys!!!
I just got my free sampler of Eternity-X and I must admit that this band
kicks some serious ass!!! If you haven't heard it - hear it!!!
If you have, well, what you think of it? I think it fu*ken rocks!!!
cheers,
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:55:40 -0400
From: "Matt Halloran" <imemnok@hurricane.gnt.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Cheetah and kick
Message-ID: <199803041959.NAA03400@hurricane.gnt.net>
>
> Hmm, now that I am in a non-prog vein, anyone ever heard of
> "Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies"? MAN, what a great band! Their song,
> "Shakin' The Blues" just rocks. If you like great, fast southern
> rock, definitely check out this band.
>
The Wheelies are great, if you like their first album you should really
check out Magnolia it is incredible. And if you like them you should try
to find a band called Renegade Saints, they are a band from Oregon who put
our one CD then broke up but the songs are incredible. They sound a little
bit like Phish on some songs but with a much rootsier feel
Does Jason Bieler's solo album sound like the last 2 kick albums...i was
looking at getting it but I was afraid that he may have gone experimental
on me.(not that that's a bad thing)
"oops." Randy Rhoads.Dee
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:25:15 +0100
From: "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Malmo Setlist, pretty unusual
Message-ID: <9803042021.AA06282@nomina.lu.se>
Here's the setlist from the malmo show, it's pretty unusual
Mirror/TTT
NM
Voices
Guitar Solo
Peruvian Skies
Derek,s Solo
Anna Lee
Hollow Years
Just Let Me BReathe
Lie
Ytse Jam
Trial of Tears
Pull Me Under
Encore medley:
Metropolis
LtL
The Crimson Sunset
Fortune In Lies
Simon Mitternacht
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/1233/
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:34:24 -0500
From: Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Liquid Tension
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980304153424.006a1a24@scott.skidmore.edu>
Well, I also got this in the mail (Thank you, Matt G!) yesterday. I've
listened to it about 3 times so far, and I like it a lot. It has a lot of
interesting, humorous, and wacky musical elements.
My favorite part of the CD is definitely the last "song," "Three Minute
Warning," but there are a lot of great things before that particular set of
tracks.
Once again, I really think I should give up guitar...John Petrucci is
God. (The "self-indulging" wanking by JP just makes me want to kill myself
it's so awesome!)
I haven't been reading my jams (shoot me! I have rehearsals every day
and night!), so I dunno what's been going on. I see that someone has
already reviewed LTE, so I decided not to go into too much detail. ;p
Don't forget to visit my web site every week for my new mp3 of the week!
;) I will put some LTE up there next week maybe....
Take care, everyone!
Erica
Erica Bonomi, ebonomi@skidmore.edu
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emergency: pootersox@bonomi.connix.com
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Check here for the mp3 of the week!
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 14:52:47 EST
From: <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Los Angeles Music Scene
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+MvOzoA@tcx.tcco.com>
I am finally going to take a trip out to Los Angeles after many, many years of
talking about it. I was just wondering if there is still a happening music
scene out there like there was in the 80's. Are any of the famous clubs still
open? Is the Sunset Strip still a cool place to hang out at night?
Just wondering. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks - Chung in NYC
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 14:57:37 EST
From: <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: economy picking
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+lyOzoA@tcx.tcco.com>
> the only way i see economy picking as cheating is cheating yourself,
> because when i used to pick that way and didn't know it, i always
> had problems with ascending fast runs, then when i started religeous
> alternate picking my speed improved dramatically, i was really amazed
> how much strict alternate picking helped my speed and technique.
It works well with 3-note per string scales. I can definitely play scale
excersizes a lot faster with economy picking, but if you're soloing, you
really have to think about whether to start with an upstroke or downstroke.
If you want to see a master of economy picking, check out Frank Gambale. I
started doing it after watching his instructional video.
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 98 13:40:19 -0500
From: jpenna@trc.tosco.com
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: NYC radio
Message-ID: <9803048890.AA889043408@mailrelay.trc.tosco.com>
>>
>anyway...aside from Howard Stern and the occasional OZZY or MEGADETH
>tune KROCK can rot in hell.....
VERY occassional....
Alex >>>>>>>>>
yes. however, i have actually heard RUSH on krock, albeit the standards: Tom
Sawyer and Limelight. krock is lame. i have to suffer through it all day
because i can't get any other station at work. metallisuck every hour kind of
grates on you.
if you can get these stations though, check out the RAT, 95.9 out of Pt.
Pleasant, NJ and/or WDHA, 105.5, Dover, NJ. they play just about everything,
including Dream Theater.
got milk?
good day.......eh
--JP
the mad immortal man...
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 21:43:35 +0100
From: andreas <m-12838@mailbox.swipnet.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: dt-concert, malmo, sweden
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980304214332.007a0ae0@mailbox.swipnet.se>
DT in Malmo, Sweden
]From who ? Bloke who is just as much into DT as into big beats,
like Norman Cooke. Enough shite....
The whole thing got off with Vanden Plaas. Kinda cool, pity you couldn't
hear any keyboards, neither any vocals, from where we were standing,
thought. The percussionist was looking absolutely insane and you didn't
quite know what to think of him. Anyway, they were rocking, but noone
bugged out, except for a couple of poncers with long, curly hair, in the
front row, who, as expected, went totally nuts.
Then, after a long wait, it was DT-time...
I can only say: "You really got me there guys...". My friends had told me
that it was supposed to start off with Derek playing Bach (or whatever) all
by himself in pitch-black, and then the others were going to join in at the
same time, playing New Millenium (or something...)...
Nothing could've been more wrong...
Suddenly, as I stood there chatting with a couple of geezers, all the
lights went out. A couple of secs later, the five of bandmembers of DT
almost ran onto stage. "What the fuck's this ?" was the big q in my head.
And that was it. "Oh, my gawd..." were the words on most lips.
They played for... to tell you the truth, I have no idea. I lost track of
time and space the same time they started off by playing Take the Time. It
was absolutely fabulous. If you ask me, the show went flawless.
Best of all, afterwards, we got to meet THE band... Well, almost THE
band... Everybody except Petrucci. It was freezing, and I doubt some of my
fellow fans will ever recover... It was hard saying anything but things
like "...oh shite...", "this aint happenin'...", "oh jesus, here comes
James...". One of my (male) friends hugged Myung. Utterly cool. Same friend
told James "Say, that's a nice handwriting....". James replyed: "It's
quick....". That one had me lmao.
Anyway, I got my poster signed and shook hands with the four of them. Most
excellent... Still I wonder, where did Petrucci go ?
ps. Vanden Plaas played Super Mario Bros 1 in their tour-bus...
/andreas
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:15:20 +0100
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Ytsejam Interview with Derek Sherinian
Message-ID: <01BD47B8.CCB4D6C0@BElanna.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
A few days ago, I asked Derek Sherinian if he'd like to participate
in a "Ytsejam Interview". Basically I'll collect questions from you
guys and mail them to Derek so he can answer them. After that, I'll
post them on "Under A Cyber Moon". Cool enough ?
If you have any questions for the "Ytsejam Interview", please email
them to me (itchy@dreamt.org) with the subject "Question for Derek"
or something like that. Please be brief and don't forget to mention
your real name for the interview.
I can't guarantee that all questions will be answered, but Derek is
a cool guy... I'm sure he'll try to answer as many as possible. :-)
I have no idea how many questions to expect, so there's no deadline
for now. I will post a message when I've got enough questions, ok ?
I'll post a notification after I've added the interview to "Under A
Cyber Moon", but don't let that stop you from checking the site out
between now and then. Remember, daily updates. ;-)
Mark Bredius
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Dream Theater - "Under A Cyber Moon" http://www.prognosis.com/dream/
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:24:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Ytsejam Fantasy Baseball League
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.980304161949.425C-100000@bdmserver>
I've started up the Ytsejam Fantasy Baseball League
to join go to:
http://games-espn.sportszone.com/flb/promo/
buy a team then join a group with:
groupname: Ytsejam Fantasy Baseball
password: majesty
It is a one time fee of $30 to play (its less if you are an espn
subscriber, or do Fantasy honey or basketball). After that all roster
moves, waivers, free agents, trades dont cost anything extra. Everything
is automated.
a few of us did it last year so don't miss your chance. I think there is
a 10 team limit for the league so join up soon. The draft is March 28.
any questions, email me.
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 14:28:52 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fender?
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980304142851.006f4518@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 10:58 AM 3/4/98 -0800, L. Glenn Waterfield wrote:
>'81 Fender Precision Special w/maple fretboard and a rock maple body and
>loaded with EMG P&J's and brass hardware.
<snip>
>Playing it is like swinging a Caddy through the slalom, but it sounds like
>a million bucks. Take that, you Ibanez cheaters! :)
hahah!! Everybody laugh and point, he plays a fender!!! HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
;)~
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:41:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Fender?
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980304134048.22377A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Vincent G. LuPone wrote:
>
>At 10:58 AM 3/4/98 -0800, L. Glenn Waterfield wrote:
>>'81 Fender Precision Special w/maple fretboard and a rock maple body and
>>loaded with EMG P&J's and brass hardware.
><snip>
>>Playing it is like swinging a Caddy through the slalom, but it sounds like
>>a million bucks. Take that, you Ibanez cheaters! :)
>
>hahah!! Everybody laugh and point, he plays a fender!!! HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
>
hahahaha... you play a Fender and I play a Memphis...
hahaha..ha...ahaha... what's everybody looking at?
Yeah, so I'm cheap -- it was my friends, and I don't mind the tone. ^_^
>;)~
>
>
> Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
>
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--Matt
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:53:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: NYC radio
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980304165147.12101A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998 jpenna@trc.tosco.com wrote:
> yes. however, i have actually heard RUSH on krock, albeit the standards: Tom
> Sawyer and Limelight. krock is lame. i have to suffer through it all day
> because i can't get any other station at work. metallisuck every hour kind of
> grates on you.
>
> if you can get these stations though, check out the RAT, 95.9 out of Pt.
> Pleasant, NJ and/or WDHA, 105.5, Dover, NJ. they play just about everything,
> including Dream Theater.
>
Don't forget WSOU, Seton Hall Radio, out of South Orange
89.5 FM......they play some good stuff as well, a mix of
old and new, though they tend to concentrate more on harder
stuff..........I remember them playing the LaTM version of
Under a Glass Moon before one of the Home for the Holiday
shows at the Birch Hill.........
-Al
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Her mouth is a soft explosion of roses
A burst of raw animal definition
For a few moments I was mortal.........
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balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu OR sigma982@yahoo.com OR theprof@bigfoot.com
HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:01:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
To: The YtseJam mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Keyboard Technique (and knobbly things)
Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.95.980304215953.20488A-100000@vectorbd.vectorbd.com>
Now, the REAL measure of how good a keyboardist you are is if you can
play with BOTH knobbly things AT THE SAME TIME! I challenge anyone to
try, it's not that easy. :)
-- Bert, once again wasting precious bandwidth
>> No, not THAT little knobbly thing!
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:07:29 -0500 (EST)
From: Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: REVIEW: "Liquid Tension Experiment"--PART TWO
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.980304170613.27725B-100000@nj5.injersey.com>
I want it. I need it. I have to have it. I will rob and steal for it. I
will drive cars to get it. I will rip out my eyes to have it, (hell,
they're useless anyway.) So, what do you all say. when is this thing
coming out? I say everybody go to their record stores on the release day
and demand to have it. If you can't find the money to buy it, charge it.
Write a check. Kill somebody in line to have it. make a CD-r of it. Do
whatever it takes to get it. I need to go now.
-- Damon Fibraio, damon74@injersey.com Keyboards, vocals, musical slut I'll play for money. Enquire if interested. "One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of Radio, 1980------------------------------
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:17:26 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net> To: YtseJelly <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Symphony X playing in the US. Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980304171455.28582C-100000@mariner.cris.com>
This just in from the Symphony X mailing list:
>> (c). Where and when have they played shows ? > >I have some great news for the US fans. Symphony-X is scheduled to play >at this years Powermad progressive/power metal festival on August 21-23, >1998 in Baltimore. I'll be there for sure! For more info on this >festival, check out http://websnet.com/global/.
Rick Audet
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