YTSEJAM digest 3668

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Mon Mar 23 1998 - 18:51:48 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 3668

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3666
     by MIKULIMW@saber.udayton.edu
      2) Re: Questions & info
     by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
      3) trade/sell cd's
     by Volodya <provibe@club-internet.fr>
      4) Re: Joe Satriani
     by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
      5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3665
     by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
      6) DT in Virginia
     by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
      7) The Age Of Impact / John Wetton
     by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
      8) slowness
     by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
      9) DT Side Projects
     by Jeremy Aaron Smith <js013b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
     10) Laser's Edge promptness
     by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
     11) Re: Long songs
     by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
     12) Ytse-Shirt
     by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
     13) Lie Video
     by YtseJim <LUTZ@uhavax.hartford.edu>
     14) Re: Superior (NDTC)
     by Mark Jeffrey McEuen <mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu>
     15) DT hats/stickers..etc..delay
     by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
     16) DT hats/stickers..etc..delay
     by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
     17) Re: The Spirit of Radio...
     by Damon Fibraio <damon74@mh005.infi.net>
     18) Re: Shadow Gallery w/cheese and Enchant
     by "Christopher Files" <cfiles@erols.com>
     19) Hollow Years Jap. Import
     by Hanson Family <dhanson@netside.com>
     20) Magna Carta on Euro-LTE (read this if you have the version with the gaps!)
     by Coop42 <Coop42@aol.com>

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:08:14 -0400 (EDT)
    From: MIKULIMW@saber.udayton.edu
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3666
    Message-ID: <01IV04YKTLCY001D1P@saber.udayton.edu>

    Terri Bozzio did a project with Tony Levin and Steve Stevens, called Black
    Light Syndrome. The drummer in my band had this and let me borrow it. It's
    pretty cool, but I don't think it's quite as good as LTE.

    (someone asked about this in the last 'jam, my mailer doesn't have text repeat
    or whatever that's called, sorry)

    Mark

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:18:04 -0600 (CST)
    From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Questions & info
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.980323101534.15508A-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>

     French metal magazines speculate a lot on who will be the new
    Queensryche guitarist ; their suggestions are : Nuno Bettencourt, Reb
    Beach, Alex Skolnik, Joe Satriani, Eric Johnson and Steve Vai. They
    should fix their crystal ball.

    Eric Johnson in Queensryche!!!???????? What kind of pot were those french
    guys smoking??

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    Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:24:40 +0100
    From: Volodya <provibe@club-internet.fr>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com, bglist@bigfoot.com
    Subject: trade/sell cd's
    Message-ID: <33355945.DFFA4F99@club-internet.fr>

    Hi, there!
    I'd like to trade/sell the following cd's (all in perfect condition):
    1. Pretty Maids "Scream" (w/one bonus track)
    2. CNR music promo disc released in 1998; contains the following :
        Symphony X "Orion the Hunter", Vanden Plas "RainMaker", Rhapsody
    "Ira Tenax" and "Warrior of Ice", Manowar "Kings of metal" (live),
    Symphony X "Of sins and shadows".
    3. Motorhead "Sacrifice"
    4. W.A.S.P. "Still not black enough"
    5. Tribute to Deep Purple "Smoke on the water" (featuring Yngwie
    Malmsteen, Tony McAlpine, Reb Beach, John Norum, Don Dokken, Richie
    Kotzen, Paul Gilbert, etc.)
    6. The Almighty "Powertrippin'"
    7. Motley Crue "Motley Crue"
        If interested, please contact me privately at the following address
    : provibe@club-internet.fr

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:25:03 EST
    From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Joe Satriani
    Message-ID: <f0c841ce.35168ce1@aol.com>

    <<<<I think at the Malmsteen show next week I'm just gonna bring a shitload of
    the
    cheapest picks I can find and toss and handful over my shoulder every time
    Yngwie tosses a pick into the crowd. >>>

    Dude, that works, I've done it myself! One time I heard a guy who got a pick
    say "Art Ellis, who the fuck is that?" a buddy of his thoght maybe it was a
    roadie pick. but either way, it works!

    As for satch, 1 an hour 20, that sucks, last night in Boston he played from
    about an hour and 45 min. maybe a little more..

    Art

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:52:11 EST
    From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3665
    Message-ID: <5b95438c.3516a14d@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-03-22 22:45:27 EST, Rocky wrote:

    << i saw dream theater at Jaxx in December, but i dont think there was a
    January
     3rd show there, if so i'm pissed as a mofo for not hearing about it, maybe
    you
     have your dates confused... >>

    I have the original ads here in front of me, and the ticket stubs at home.
    It was the Ballroom on Nov. 23, '97 and Jaxx on Jan. 3, '98. God, I hope my
    short term memory isn't THAT bad :~)

    If you saw them in December, then I'm the one that's pissed.........

    Kez

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:53:34 EST
    From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: DT in Virginia
    Message-ID: <3699ce8c.3516a1a0@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-03-22 22:45:27 EST, Rocky wrote:

    << i saw dream theater at Jaxx in December, but i dont think there was a
    January
     3rd show there, if so i'm pissed as a mofo for not hearing about it, maybe
    you
     have your dates confused... >>

    I have the original ads here in front of me, and the ticket stubs at home.
    It was the Ballroom on Nov. 23, '97 and Jaxx on Jan. 3, '98. God, I hope my
    short term memory isn't THAT bad :~)

    If you saw them in December, then I'm the one that's pissed.........

    Sorry for the double post.

    Kez

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:40:54 +0100
    From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
    To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: The Age Of Impact / John Wetton
    Message-ID: <01BD568E.655A3F80@MARK>

      Echomanyyz wrote :

    > The Magna Carta website was updated yesterday. It says:
    >
    > <<<Trent Gardner (Magellan) has been working on a new project "The Age
    > Of Impact," which Terry Bozzio has laid down the drums for. Notable guests
    > will include John Petrucci and Derek Sherinian (both of Dream Theater) and
    > Billy Sheehan (Mr Big, Talas, David Lee Roth). Special guest vocalists,
    > including John Wetton, will be added to the mix as well, more info as it
    > becomes available. This album will be out June 23, 1998.

      I heard John Wetton will *not* be on this CD afterall.

      Mark Bredius
      ____________________________________________________________
      Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
      * http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: Today

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:04:58 -0700
    From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: slowness
    Message-ID: <000301bd5686$4b8118c0$622746cf@sir.micron.net>

    >Well, DT probably wanted ACOS to be on _Images and Words_, so does >it p=
    iss
    >you off that that album turned out so inferior? :)

    aye that's true, but I think we can agree that the songs that did make th=
    e
    album were pretty much what they wanted, production aside.

    >Yeah, that's why Eric Clapton sucks, right? The wimp plays slow because =
    >he
    >*has* to.

    hmm. I actually like Clapton quite a bit. When I was referring to "slow=
    " I
    was thinking more like grunge slow. Clapton is quite a bit faster than t=
    he
    vast majority of guitarists, it's just that he's slow for a virtuoso type.
    If they started giving nicknames to everyone who was as slow or slower th=
    an
    Clapton that might become a bit confusing.

    Get high on ether when there's no one in the house.
    Pretend it's the big one the moment you pass out.
    That's just rehearsal, but it's comforting somehow
    To practice dying now.

    woot=99

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:06:04 -0500 (EST)
    From: Jeremy Aaron Smith <js013b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: DT Side Projects
    Message-ID: <199803231806.NAA21639@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>

    Hey everyone,

    Just one thing to add to the side projects list...Derek played on a couple
    of tracks on "To Cry You a Song," the Jethro Tull tribute album on Magna
    Carta. It's a pretty good CD...Trent Gardner of Magellan does a flawless
    rendition of Ian Anderson's voice on "Aqualung."

    Jeremy

    -- 
    Jeremy A. Smith                   "Feed my head with some real thoughts
    University of Rochester           and let me think instead of being taught
    js013b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ..  I'll say things you won't believe  
    Brought to you by the letter: oe  Just stand back--just let me breathe!" --DT
    

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:06:53 -0500 (EST) From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net> To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Laser's Edge promptness Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980323124335.2108C-100000@peach.negia.net>

    Greetings ye 'jamanoids...

    After Trevor told us about having to wait 6 weeks for a Laser's Edge order, Tim remarked: > I feel your pain. :) The wait for huge CD orders can seem like an > eternity. I've ordered from The Laser's Edge quite a bit, and while > I've never had to wait nearly that long, I have experienced a few > quirks. With an order as large as yours, Ken may have had a difficult > time getting all your CDs in stock. Did you specify any alternates?

    I don't know whether Trevor did or not, but I ordered six discs from the Edge over a month ago via credit card. I called to place the order and reserve the discs; all the ones I ordered at the time were in stock when I placed it.

    I'm thinking that the next time I order from the Laser's Edge, I'll send them a check instead. Ken may be snowed under with credit card orders (I understand, having to run several hundred every day myself), but if that's so then he needs to stop accepting CCs or hire some more people. A month-6 week turnaround time is kind of ridiculous, especially when people who order via check have it in a week or two.

    Ta, Phil

    ===================================================================== Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal) Senior Tech, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787 "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." -- Berthold Auerbach Currently playing: Artension -- "Into the Eye of the Storm"

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:19:09 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Long songs Message-ID: <199803231817.KAA02734@odin.ax.com>

    > The Doors weren't shy on long songs.... This is the end, my only friend :)

    Dale R. Newberry drnewb@spiff.net

    Q. What did the elephant say to the naked man? A. How do you breathe through that thing?

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:43:54 EST From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ytse-Shirt Message-ID: <dae120e9.3516ad6c@aol.com>

    Greetings 'Jammers,

    Just wanted to send out a powerful high five to Pat Griffin for my shirt. U 'da man!

    If there are any more left, go get yourself one!

    Kez

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:53:18 +0000 From: YtseJim <LUTZ@uhavax.hartford.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lie Video Message-ID: <Pine.VMS.3.91-vms-b4.980323134813.21866B-100000@uhavax.hartford.edu>

    > surely someone could think of something more original > than driving around New York?

    > I haven't seen the Lie video, so maybe this is the one that had all the > visually stunning photography, scenery, coolness, effects, scantily-clad > women and general greatness. :-) hehehe, boy, are you gonna be REALLY disappointed :) the lie video is the band (minus keyboards) playing around NYC with a bunch of camera tricks.

    I don't know, i kinda like DT's videos. I agree that they are not over produced, special effects filled masterpieces. But, the way i look at it, is that its better than no DT vid at all!

    ~YtseJim

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:41:48 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Jeffrey McEuen <mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Superior (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.980323133546.12061A-100000@short-eared.owlnet.rice.edu>

    On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Paul Dyer wrote:

    > I have heard a lot about superior in the last week or so on the jam.... > > Are they very heavy? (comparisons?)

    Yes, they're very heavy. They do a lot of moderately slow, heavy guitar riffs that are usually contrasted with piano or keyboard. I'm not sure who to compare them to; they don't really sound like anybody else.

    > What is the best album to start with?

    That's easy - they only have one, called "Behind". Although I understand they're working on material for a second album...

    Mark McEuen mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:24:24 -0800 From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT hats/stickers..etc..delay Message-ID: <199803232022.PAA17037@camel7.mindspring.com>

    Hey all, I just want those of you who ordered DT hats and stickers (www.dreamt.org) (in merchandise)...that I have NOT forgotten about you. I have been without my computer for about 4 weeks now..and just got it back. Sorry for the delay. If you have any questions...PLEASE write me via email. Thank you!

    Todd S

    vaiman@mindspring.com

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:24:59 -0800 From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT hats/stickers..etc..delay Message-ID: <199803232022.PAA21586@camel7.mindspring.com>

    Hey all, I just want those of you who ordered DT hats and stickers (www.dreamt.org) (in merchandise)...that I have NOT forgotten about you. I have been without my computer for about 4 weeks now..and just got it back. Sorry for the delay. If you have any questions...PLEASE write me via email. Thank you!

    Todd S

    vaiman@mindspring.com

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:22:51 -0500 (EST) From: Damon Fibraio <damon74@mh005.infi.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: The Spirit of Radio... Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.980323152208.10207A-100000@mh005.infi.net>

    OK, as one who has done a prog rock show, i must throw in something here. Def Leopard and tesla? Are they prog? Or is this a mix of prog, metal, and prog metal? Chris, you know I think you are the man, and I hate to criticize, but ... what is this?

    -- Damon Fibraio, damon74@injersey.com Keyboards, vocals, musical slut I'll play for money. Enquire if interested. "One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of Radio, 1980

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:57:35 -0500 From: "Christopher Files" <cfiles@erols.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Shadow Gallery w/cheese and Enchant Message-ID: <01bd569e$4e974580$LocalHost@default>

    >> What would I recommend before SG? >> >> Lemur Voice >> Enchant >> Fates Warning (APSoG) >>

    MATt replied: >SG, though, offers an original sound that i find lacking in both >LV and enchant. for me, and i got pretty slammed for this one on >parallels a month or two back, i find enchant very uninspiring. >it seems to me that they tackle every prog cliche, and display them >proudly.

    Arash wrote: >* Enchant - A Blueprint Of The World > >I love this album. >"Nighttime Sky" is one of the best prog songs ever.

    I must agree with MATt (aka James Tedesco? :-) in saying that I've found Enchant to be rather dull. It is of course, decent music, and better than anything you're bound to hear on pop radio, but in comparison to some of the other prog metal out there, it's not at all exciting. MATt had 'Wounded'; I have the above mentioned 'Blueprint' and have found it to be mediocre. It just doesn't move me by any stretch of the imagination, IMO. Shadow Gallery, however, are great. A little bit cheesy in some of the lyrics, and yes, the production is poor, but the music and group vocals kick some major butt. Very powerful. I'll also admit that 'Ghostship' isn't my favorite long piece in the world, due to some kind of dull points in the middle, but CiS remains an amazing album w/o 'Ghostship' (which still has a number of great parts to it) and well worth the investment. I can't start listening to the album without listening all the way through 'Alaska'. I was quite disappointed to hear that the new album has been pushed back to September. I'm hoping that this was a misinterpretation on my part. Anyway... -Topher

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:17:01 -0500 From: Hanson Family <dhanson@netside.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hollow Years Jap. Import Message-ID: <3516DF5D.4A0ECD59@netside.com>

    Hello All,

    By the way, the Japanese CD Single of "Hollow Years" was released the same day as the German import. I picked it up locally on the 17th. It did in fact include BMS and AH/TKH. Only problem: $18.95.

    Enjoy, doug -- O /\ * * /\ / \ /\ * * * /\ / \/ \ / \ * * / \/ / \/ \ Douglas W. Hanson, IV / \ dhanson@netside.com / it's better in Alaska

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    Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:18:01 EST From: Coop42 <Coop42@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Magna Carta on Euro-LTE (read this if you have the version with the gaps!) Message-ID: <2360c7b9.3516edac@aol.com>

    Hi there, last week I sent an email to Magna Carta and complained (politely!) about the gaps in the Euro-version of LTE. Today I got this (I guess they won't mind me forwarding it):

    >Andreas, > >Sorry for the delay in answering. I sent your email through to our European >Distributors. I am glad you wrote, because this was the first I was aware of any >problems. >Drop me a line with any comments or concerns in the future on any Magna Carta >releases. Please accept our apologies for the messed up disc. I guarantee that >you will enjoy the corrected disc. > > Below is my generic form letter with instructions on exchanging your disc. > >Dan Hanley >Magna Carta > > > >We have had a major problem with Liquid Tension from our German pressing plant. >They remastered the CD when they made the Glass Master for pressing. This has >resulted in a complete disruption of the music on the disc. >A new version is on its way out. >This corrected version will have the matrix number MAXX9023 on the CD itself. >To make sure this is the correct master, either play the CD, there should be no >gaps or pauses (especially not in "Three Minute Warning"). >Or check the CD itself for the number (the mismastered Cds will have MAX9023, >the correct will have a double X, MAXX9023) >The only way to see this number is to flip the CD over, look at the playing side. >Toward the center of the CD you will see a series of numbers and letters. > >We are attempting to solve this horrible situation in regards to our European >distributors, but this may take some time. > >In the meantime, if you send me your CD (just the CD (no jewel case or book) in >an envelope is fine) to me, I will send out a corrected disc. >Magna Carta feels terrible that the fans had to get caught in the middle of this >situation. We will make sure that everyone gets the corrected CD. > >Address the envelope: > >Magna Carta >"Liquid Tension" CD >208 East 51st St, Ste 1820 >New York, NY 10022

    Sounds good, huh? If this works out like it should, my respect for Magna Carta will certainly increase a few bits further...

    Take Care, Andreas Berger

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