YTSEJAM Digest 3669
Today's Topics:
1) JP in Guitar World
by HseJackBlt <HseJackBlt@aol.com>
2) Fates vid
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
3) re: Yngwie picks
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
4) RE: Magna Carta on Euro-LTE (read this if you have the version with the gaps!)
by "Matt Mommaerts" <mattymo@inxpress.net>
5) MP3 Editor?
by AL <al@isd.net>
6) Crimson Glory
by MentalHunk <MentalHunk@aol.com>
7) Re: MP3 Editor?
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
8) Japanese Awake CD
by "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com>
9) Ach Lieben! (NDTC)
by Glenn Waterfield <lwaterfi@eecs.uic.edu>
10) Roland Rupp Demos.
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
11) Roland Rupp Demo
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
12) Re:The Lasers Edge
by "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer@writeme.com>
13) Roland Rupp's Homepage
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
14) Reply to Brandon
by Satu Reunanen <satu.reunanen@sci.fi>
15) Re: Ach Lieben! (NDTC)
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
16) Re: DT at Jaxx
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
17) Re: long songs
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
18) Pick 6
by "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
19) Tabs (NDTC)
by Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
20) Derek
by Chris Bowsman <cbowsma@pop3.utoledo.edu>
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:55:21 EST
From: HseJackBlt <HseJackBlt@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JP in Guitar World
Message-ID: <5c2c8212.3516f66b@aol.com>
That's right, everyone's favorite clothes retailer, J. Peterman, is featured
in the May Guitar World. 206 pages, beautiful music transcriptions, lush
subscription cards, and a 2-page foldout of upcoming talents Johnny Lang and
Kenny Wayne Shepherd. Seriously though, there's a small blurb on Liquid
Tension Experiment, and JP talks about his contribution to Steve Morse's The
Guitar Summit compilation. On page 179, there's an ad for LTE. And I found
Trey Anastasio's "60 Minutes" particularly interesting, as he lists Crimson's
"The Talking Drum." I can't wait to see Phish in Columbus in July; in
addition to Metallica, Van Halen, Ozzfest, DMB, Family Values, and DT it's
going to be a great summer for concerts. One more thing, there's also a
postcard for the 100 Greatest Solos of All Time in the aforementioned Guitar
World, I think "Under A Glass Moon" will be my JP submission.
Good luck Good Will Hunting,
Jack
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:27:14 -0700
From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Fates vid
Message-ID: <000b01bd56bb$99c77260$1e2746cf@sir.micron.net>
According to CDnow, the APSOG live video is out today. I ordered it
yesterday for $12.99.
Get high on ether when there's no one in the house.
Pretend it's the big one the moment you pass out.
That's just rehearsal, but it's comforting somehow
To practice dying now.
woot™
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:10:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: Yngwie picks
Message-ID: <19980324001008.29481.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com>
Steve Zebrowski <steve@fuzzfactor.com> wrote:
>hey, Bafu, there's no need to fake people out for >picks at the Yngwie
>show: yngwie ditches his pick every thirty seconds! >We'll be dodging
>them all night because our pockets are too full. If >you don't catch
one
>at the show, take heart: just go home take off your >clothes and shake
>them out and you're bound to find one or two...dozen.
This is almost true! Not only did one fall out of my clothes, but
Yngwie nailed me twice in the face. I wasn't even close to the stage.
His shows should come with a warning: Eye and Ear protection required...
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:07:15 -0600
From: "Matt Mommaerts" <mattymo@inxpress.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: Magna Carta on Euro-LTE (read this if you have the version with the gaps!)
Message-ID: <000d01bd56c1$36f8e500$370a10d0@mattymo.inxpress.net>
Oh, great, now I want the one with the gaps in it! It's already a
collectors Item! <grin>
~matt
The Mosh Pit Homepage: http://www.inxpress.net/~mattymo/moshpit
My Hompage: http://www.inxpress.net/~mattymo
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:10:28 -0600
From: AL <al@isd.net>
To: YTSE Jammers <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: MP3 Editor?
Message-ID: <35171614.8EE182B7@isd.net>
Anyone know of a good MP3 editor?
-- See ya, AL...Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:43:04 EST From: MentalHunk <MentalHunk@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Crimson Glory Message-ID: <aea557b9.35171dba@aol.com>
Hey Jammers....
I'm looking for a copy of Crimson Glory's song "Dream Dancer"......Had it once on cassette, but it got stolen and have'nt heard it since....If anyone has it, e-mail me privately and maybe we can work out a trade. Thanks in advance
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:56:59 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: MP3 Editor? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980323235454.3956A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, AL wrote:
> Anyone know of a good MP3 editor?
I don't know if I understand what you want, but you can edit what you want in WAV form and then compress them with a MP3 compressor. You won't really be able to edit MP3 files, I think (other than doing very low level service).
But Cool Edit 96 can open/save MP3 files (of course, it will be converting MP3 files to some kind of WAV, "without" you knowing that, that is, doing that transparently).
Hope this is what you meant, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:22:12 -0800 From: "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Japanese Awake CD Message-ID: <01bd56d4$09c98860$LocalHost@markphil>
Jamers,
I while back, I bought the Awake Japanese release, and its still in its shrink wrap and unopened. Yet recently on the Jam, I've heard of people refering to this CD with a bonus CD? Is this true? Another 3"? And if so, what songs are on it and is it worth opening the CD to find out?
Mark
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:54:42 -0600 (CST) From: Glenn Waterfield <lwaterfi@eecs.uic.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ach Lieben! (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980323215204.12077A-100000@grover.eecs.uic.edu>
Does anyone else have a problem with a German band calling itself "Superior"?
That's all. Glenn
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ L. Glenn Waterfield "Call for your physics reading today!" "Aaah! My spleen!" Argonne National Lab Waterfield@anl.gov ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:58:36 -0600 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Roland Rupp Demos. Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980323225836.0079aae0@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
>Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:26:20 -0600 (CST) >From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Roland Rupp >Message-ID: <199803211826.MAA18808@enteract.com> > > >The first song was decent... well written. >
**** yes, I like that song a lot, sorry it was incomplete....Im working in doing the complete MP3 for that song, but I dont want to get the low volume and the high hiss that I got last time. ****
>The second one, I believe, is a fraud. Guitarists, go listen to Rupp's >second song on Alan Estrada's page. The vibrato and some of the high >notes don't sound right. Sounds to me like it's been sped up. Plus, the >picking technique doesn't sound right to my ears, and some of the tapped >things just sound pretty obvious.
*** well, I think you're very hard with this critic, remember this guy was 18 the time...I think we will be recording some more songs in 2 weeks, he has gotten a lot better in technique...many parts on those songs were improvised, I wasnt there at the time he recorded those songs but Im pretty sure he didnt sped up any of them, I'll be uploading song #3 tonight...Ive known this guy since we both were 16 and Ive seen him play live lots of times, in fact some in the jam has seen him too, since I used some of his videos as fillers in some of my trades...I remember Carlo D'Angelo telling me he was pretty good (I taped him a video of Roland Rupp playing Jason Becker's Air) and that was a year ago....He tuned his guitar to F# for all those songs because the Perfect Pitch tapes said that human ear is pretty sensitive to songs in F# and most of the times we like them... ****
> >This is MY opinion, and I have no way to prove it, but I'd LOVE to see >what some other jammers think. The first song is quite decent, but it >doesn't follow that he'd play the first song the way he did, and hold back >all these licks for the second one. If I'm wrong, I'll publicly >apologize, but it will take more than Rupp or Estrada telling me I'm >wrong.
*** well, I have lots videos and audio recordings of this guy live, since Im his biggest fan (= he's been a big influence in me and I like what he does...he also plays keyboards a little...you can contact roland at rrupp@bigfoot.com and ask him whatever you want...he has ICQ too but Im not sure of his number...ask him about his homepage too...(Shredder's Lair) hope all this gets clear up... **** > >I've sped up my own songs for fun before, but never even CONSIDERED >passing it off for the real shit. You'll notice how the tone quality on >Rupp's second song sounds like Paul Gilberts on "I Understand Completely" >off the Guitars that Rule the World cd... a song that features some sped >up fake licks as a joke. Can some of you shredders go listen to these >files and verify or tell me I'm wrong? I found this kind of insulting. >The URL is in one of the last jams, in a post from Estrada.
*** my URL is http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 yes...you may be correct, it may be possible that this songs sound something like Paul Gilbert since he is one of Roland's guitar heroes, as Greg Howe, Pretucci, Nuno, Reb Beach and some others.... in fact song#3 is like a tribute to Nuno Bettencourt and Bad 4 Good (the kids band), for the people who downloaded the songs note this: I WROTE THE NAMES THAT ARE ON THE FILES, THE REAL NAMES (ROLAND'S NAMES FOR THE SONGS) ARE DIFFERENT, ROLAND WAS SURPRISED THAT I DID MP3 FILES FROM HIS SONGS, HE HASNT HEARD THEM YET. feel free to drop me your comments or to write to roland directly. see ya ****
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:25:33 -0600 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: rrupp@bigfoot.com Subject: Roland Rupp Demo Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980323232533.007a13b0@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
Im glad to see that people are checking it out....I'll try to do some better copies....does anyone knows which WAV recorder should I use to get all the hiss noise out? I used the sound recorder for windows but it sucks hard. I use L3enc for encoding the wav file to MP3, now the only thing I need is a better WAV recorder with filters or something to get the noise out, can anybody help me? please let me know, thanks a lot.
> Did anyone check out Rupp's samples? I heard from only one jammer >(who agreed with me, and even went so far as to try and slow it down >to correct the pitch and speed). Let's get a verdict here. The URL >is: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/2025/ > >
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:45:58 +0000 From: "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer@writeme.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:The Lasers Edge Message-ID: <199803240545.VAA09628@odin.ax.com>
According to Ken Golden, the owner/operator of Lasers Edge, he has recently quit his normal day job to run the business FullTime. He is also going to hire an assistant due to the current backlog of orders. Patience will be the key for a few more weeks.
Ken has THE best prices on Prog that I am aware of and I've ordered from many. He is also very knowledgeable and if you have questions about bands or genres then feel free to ask away.
Don't give up on The Lasers Edge just yet prog metal fans.
They are just gettin started.......
Later,
Brian R
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:01:22 -0600 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Roland Rupp's Homepage Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980324010122.00799100@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
Hi, I just wanted to let you know (people who is interested about Roland's music) we have a homepage called the Shredder's Lair, any contributions are welcome...the site is at: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ you can send any mail to shredderlair@bigfoot.com (comments about the demo or the site) the demo songs are not yet available on the site, the site is way under construction since we dont have much time to update it....if you havent heard Roland's songs and want to check them out go to: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 that's my personal page. the demos should be uploaded on the Shredder's Lair pretty soon, on our site we have a review section, you can send us your review to any album and we will post it there with your name and email addresses as credits. Hope you like it so far. see ya (by the way I will update Shredder's Lair tomorrow at night) I may change its format a little, let me know what do you think, thanks a lot. --- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do your next." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:23:49 +0200 From: Satu Reunanen <satu.reunanen@sci.fi> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Reply to Brandon Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980324072349.00670d80@mbox.sci.fi>
Hiya !
>DT is no different. If any band only wrote one minute songs it would suck. >Of course, there's would be about 80 DT songs on one disc. :) So you think one minute songs suck ? I was thinking about this, like, prog fans liking long songs. I personally like them too, but I think there are good short songs out there too. But it does get boring after a while if some band only had short songs. You don't have much time to say things there, though some bands don't have anything to say really. Think about those party bands etc. Also, would it be better if DT had that many songs on one disc ? Just another thought. Don't think about this too hard ! Satu
PS:Why's the jam this quiet ? Doesn't bother me though, now I can keep up with them !
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:29:22 +1100 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Ach Lieben! (NDTC) Message-ID: <351760D2.BB7971A8@sydney.net>
Glenn Waterfield wrote: > > Does anyone else have a problem with a German band calling itself > "Superior"? > > That's all. > Glenn
If this is a joke then is isn't in the slightest bit funny.. The only problem I have is with dickheads like you who have no idea what they are talking about. This sort of pathetic neo nazism has no place on this list
go away graham :(
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 02:43:01 EST From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT at Jaxx Message-ID: <62dff5da.35176407@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-23 13:26:53 EST, you write:
<< I have the original ads here in front of me, and the ticket stubs at home. It was the Ballroom on Nov. 23, '97 and Jaxx on Jan. 3, '98. God, I hope my short term memory isn't THAT bad :~) If you saw them in December, then I'm the one that's pissed......... Kez >>
dude i am just about POSOTIVE that i saw DT on December 26th, the day after xmas at jaxx... can anyone else confirm this??
Rocky
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:10:57 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: long songs Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980324070038.5223A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Raivo Hool wrote:
> > From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> > > So, these progressive metal bands are not being that innovative > > when they're doing these 15 or 20 minute songs. Many bands have done that > > in the past (20 years ago, for instance). > > I guess it takes more from a musician to create a short, yet intense > song that says it all (when I say short, I mean five minutes, give or > take a couple) than to noodle about something for a half an hour. It's > still "about melody, not how flexible your fingers are".
Well, it seems that we disagree here. I think that it gets exponentially harder to write longer songs, while maintaining it with "internal cohesion", meaningful. Of course, being able to summarize things or convey them in a brief manner is an art, but, IMO, it is as much an art as writing a good text: it's both hard to write a good, concise (but "non-cyphered") text as it is to write a good, long text that doesn't get boring with the course of the chapters.
Would you mind to explain your point of view in a bit more detailed fashion, please? Or did I mention in the last paragraph what you thought about song lengths?
I don't think that there's a correlation about song lenghts and song quality, BTW. The motive *I* (that's exclusively personal) tend to like longer songs is that they usually offer me a factor that almost no short song can offer: the possibility to treat them as a journey, as a trip. If I like the song, I want it to last the most. :-)
> Raitz
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:22 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Pick 6 Message-ID: <199803241122.Oj8O@memo-smtp.sto.sema.se>
--- Inkommet fr=E5n INFODATA.SVA0193 +46(0)670-16060 98-03-24 12.22 -> ytsejam(a)ax.com
Chris wrote:
) Any opinions/recomendations on the following CD's/bands or if anyone w= as going to buy six of the following, which would they pick.
I would pick:
Anekdoten - "Vemod" or "Nucleus" (The King Crimson of Sweden) Anglagard - "Hybris" or "Epilog" (2 of the best albums ever) Liquid Tension Experement Shadow Gallery - "Carved In Stone" Savatage - "Wake Of Magellan"
Greger Ronnqvist Email: greger.ronnqvist@infodata.sema.se Check out Jihas: http://hem2.passagen.se/jihas
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 16:24:56 -0300 From: Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tabs (NDTC) Message-ID: <35CDF788.D8E8D25C@geocities.com>
Hey there jammanoids!
Im looking for the guitar tab for Savatage's "The Storm" (from The Wake of Magellan). I looked around a lot over the net but couldn't find it. If anyone has it, could you please send me?
-- []'s /********************************************\ | Marcelo Vanzin | | vanzin@geocities.com | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ | \********************************************/
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:30:32 -0500 From: Chris Bowsman <cbowsma@pop3.utoledo.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Derek Message-ID: <3517C388.9543457B@pop3.utoledo.edu>
Hey everybody...Just thought I'd share this with all of you.... I was reading an interview with Derek Sherinian last nite, and it said that he happened to like Marilyn Manson. I could not tell if he was kidding or serious, so I sent him an email and asked, along with a few other questions. I got a reply at about 7:30 this morning, in which he said that he loves Manson. Pretty crazy, huh? I thought I was the only person that was into both bands, but I guess I had to go straight to the source... peace
chris
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