YTSEJAM Digest 3907
Today's Topics:
1) ex-Atari ST/TT/Falcon users (NDTC)
by Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl>
2) Yargle ... zzz ... programs.
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
3) Re: Cannabis Man
by AL <al@isd.net>
4) My website + August tourdates wanted (not just DT) !!
by Satu Reunanen <satu.reunanen@sci.fi>
5) UACM nominated for 'Webnieuws' site of the week
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
6) World Without DT
by "Kurt Kober" <phobos@net-lynx.com>
7) HoB, moving on
by Rob Jurado <Jurado@worldnet.att.net>
8) LTE and Peruvian SKies
by DonnaHClavelli <DonnaHClavelli@chicago.avenew.com>
9) Re: We Need Boots From This Leg of the Tour!!!
by MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
10) S.F Show <spoilers>
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
11) TOURBOOKS
by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
12) Re: LTE sound clips?
by Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu>
13) HELP!!!
by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
14) Re: LTE
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
15) Re: DT in Philly/Camden
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
16) Re: HELP!!!
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
17) Re: HELP!!!
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
18) A Maritime Show Preview.
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
19) On her knees! She was on her knees, I tell you!
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:00:24 +0200
From: Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl>
To: DT mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ex-Atari ST/TT/Falcon users (NDTC)
Message-ID: <355EB538.25C7@wxs.nl>
If you ever heard of ST News (the disk magazine), check out
www.scriba.org/stnews.
Incidentally, DT is on there (a picture, a description, and a like to
the DT official home page).
--
Richard Karsmakers & Karin Kessels karies@wxs.nl
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| "ST NEWS" Atari disk magazine: www.scriba.org/stnews |
|Atari ST Emulation FAQ: members.iglou.com/rsg0910/atstemu.faq.html|
| GWAR FUQ/FAQ: www.gwar.net/fuq.html |
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P.O. Box 67, NL-3500 AB, Utrecht - The Netherlands
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 04:10:30 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Yargle ... zzz ... programs.
Message-ID: <199805171111.EAA00873@cats.ucsc.edu>
Great show in S.F. Too tired to talk about it much, but I snagged 2 extra
programs for folks who have missed out. I won't be able to reply to any
requests until Thursday, since I'm heading off for L.A. until then. Just
thought I'd let folks know.
~Chris
__../\..__ Chris Oates: aspect@cats.ucsc.edu
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/__||__\. | own nonsense" -Dream Theater, "Trial of Tears"=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0 |
//.\ |..\\ ----+
...\|.... http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/=20
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 06:34:42 -0500
From: AL <al@isd.net>
To: YTSE Jammers <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Cannabis Man
Message-ID: <355ECB52.8D5BDAE0@isd.net>
>>> Did you really need to ask that? Hugo has no shortage of self esteem.
>>> However, if he continues his quest for the title of "Cannabis Man" he will
>>> need to purchase "Clear Eyes" by the pallet.
>I seem to remember someone in the line saying something like "you
>know you're really baked when they can blindfold you with dental
>floss."
That was I. Hugo needs to get on the jam, he's already a ytse celebrity!
The first thing he would do is make his claim to be better than Portnoy!
Could you imagine the response that would generate. He is kinda' funny though.
--
See ya, AL...
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems
http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html
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Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your
groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:43:07 +0300
From: Satu Reunanen <satu.reunanen@sci.fi>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My website + August tourdates wanted (not just DT) !!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980517124307.0067e218@mbox.sci.fi>
Hi !
Long time no see..I just wanted to let you know that my pages are
working now,so check out my pix (some of them)of DT + other bands.
I will be putting more stuff there and maybe a friend of
mine will make it look better later on. Also, there are my cd-etc
lists in case any of you is interested in trading stuff with me.
Here goes: www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/9438.
AUGUST TOURDATES WANTED !!
I will be travelling around Europe in AUGUST and I would like to
get information about any metal band's TOURDATES then. If you know who
will be in Europe then, please let me know !!!! Just send me any dates
of bands between pop/deathmetal !! Especially prog/powermetal !! But you
know that already =) PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take care !
Satu
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:19:22 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: UACM nominated for 'Webnieuws' site of the week
Message-ID: <01BD81AA.23C55400@Kes.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Hey kids!
Just got an email from a Dutch news and entertainment website.
Every Sunday they nominate a couple of websites for their site
of the week award and this week 'Under A Cyber Moon' is one of
them. :) They described UACM as follows :
Dream Theater
Hele mooie website van deze redelijk bekende band.
My Dutch sucks ;-) but I think it means :
Dream Theater
Very beautiful website about a reasonably well-known band.
If you want to help me win this award, visit UACM and click on
the "Vote For UACM On Webnieuws" button... That'll take you to
their page with the sites they nominated for the award... Then
select "Dream Theater" and press the "Stem op deze site" (vote
for this site) button. Make sure you vote before May 23rd ! Of
course, if you think one of the *other* sites deserves to win,
you should vote for *them*.
You can also go to their voting page directly w/ the following
address :
http://www.webnieuws.net/weeksite/nominaties.html
Lets show them how "reasonably well-known" Dream Theater is...
;-)
Mark Bredius
____________________________________________________________
Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
* http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: Today
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 10:58:14 -0400
From: "Kurt Kober" <phobos@net-lynx.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: World Without DT
Message-ID: <01bd81a4$37d88bc0$eaf689ce@phobos.net-lynx.com>
Forgive me if this has been asked before, but if someone went back in time
and erased Dream Theater from human history, who would your favorite band be
today?
After hearing A Pleasant Shade of Gray, I'd like to say Fates Warning...but
the truth is that if it weren't for Dream Theater I never would have bought
a Fates Warning album. Probably if there never was a DT, my favorite band
would be "old" something, like old Metallica or old Rush, and I'd be a
pathetic retro maggot complaining about how there's no good music out today.
Actually, that's what I am anyway... :)
1) Please no answers like, "Well, since DT never existed, I didn't go to the
Birch Hill in 1995, so I was able to go to work on time the next day and I
was involved in an automobile accident and killed, so in 1998 I wouldn't
have a favorite band, because I'd be fucking DEAD, asshole!"
2) I would classify DT as a "progressive metal" band, although really I
believe they defy genre. They're a Dream Theater band. But everyone gets
genrefied to some extent. People who talk about DT tend to talk about other
prog bands, many of which I like and could be contenders for that top spot,
were it not for the fact that if not for DT, I never would have heard of
them in the first place. Please try to give an answer about what you would
do in a truly DT-less world.
3) Please no imaginary bands, i.e., Majesty 2, Liquid Tension Platypus, or
Chroma Key. Oh wait, that last one isn't imaginary. Oh, no, wait, it is.
KK
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 08:02:53 -0700
From: Rob Jurado <Jurado@worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: HoB, moving on
Message-ID: <355EFC1D.C7F266DA@worldnet.att.net>
Hello,
See you folks going to HOB L.A. tonight. I'm unsubbing for this e-mail
address.
I'll be back to annoy you all from the Philippines.
-Rob
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 10:26:07 -0700
From: DonnaHClavelli <DonnaHClavelli@chicago.avenew.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LTE and Peruvian SKies
Message-ID: <355F1DAF.5A38@chicago.avenew.com>
to answer a couple questions from ytsejam 3096, Liquid Tension
Experiment is Portnoy, Petrucci, Rudess, and Levin. THey made an
instrumental album that is beyond awesome! If you have more questions
about it, ask me.
I think Peruvian Skies is about a kid (Vanessa) that gets abused by her
father.
Tony
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:57:36 EDT
From: MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: We Need Boots From This Leg of the Tour!!!
Message-ID: <8a7d06a9.355f1701@aol.com>
In YtseJam 3906, Matt Johnston wrote:
> I'll try -- I've got a T3/Ethernt connection, but I dunno if I have the
> RAM to successfully juggle an 80kbps connection on the ever-unstable
> RealPlayer and capture a 44.1KHz sound file at the same time. I tried it
> before with the last HoB liveconcert deal, and got crapped out because of
> net congestion. I'll give it another shot, though, for the team (grin).
"For the team", huh? You're such a martyr. :-)
Anyway, thanks! And to quote Leslie Neilson from Airplane: "Good luck...
We're all counting on you!" :-)
C-Ya... Matt T.
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 10:02:47 -0700
From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: S.F Show <spoilers>
Message-ID: <01bd81b5$9dbcc620$49a4d6d0@internet>
Hey all:
S.F show was great. Maritime Hall was a really cool place
plus EASY parking for a change in S.F! :) Mike P mentioned that
they will be back later in the year with Deep Purple and ELP.
I really dug the song 'Speak to Me.' That should be on a CD.
Other highlights for me were hearing 'Trial of Tears' and 'Anna Lee'
from FiO. I haven't seen DT in a few years so it was the first time
for me. Plus seeing Mike P give the hilarious 'Drum Clinic' with
the crowd. Man, that was hilarious. It was cool meeting
some of you jammers.
peace,
--james--
www.jamesthorpe.com
mail@jamesthorpe.com
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 13:06:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: TOURBOOKS
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.980517130452.28038B-100000@thunder>
If anyone can pick me up a tour book at one of the shows I would be very
gratefull. They sold out of books at the shows i was at.
Let me know! I wont check email today though.. so it would have to be for
an upcoming show. Email me first so I dont have 300 people picking up
extra copies :)
Cheers!
-Ponte
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 13:45:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: LTE sound clips?
Message-ID: <199805171745.NAA115194@node7.unix.Virginia.EDU>
According to Miguel Farah F.:
>
> What kind of music it is? Is it, as the name suggests, experimental
> music (in some way)?
it's prog rock, with for the most part emphasis on wild playing
- Petrucci's Dixie Dregs influence shows up strongly in this
music. there are also several quieter duets on the record that
provide excellent contrast to the faster songs. it has a
frantic jazz-fusion vibe that reminds me of the first couple
Mahavishnu Orchestra records. this is aprtly due to the last
track which is a 28 minute improvised jam.
> Besides that, is there a sound clip of the album somewhere? I'd sure
> like to hear it first (don't tell me "hear your radio", because radios
yes - check out all these web sites. the home page of Jordan
Rudess [the keyboard player] has soundclips.
"http://www.mediusvision.com/music/lte/" (LTE)
"http://www.mediusvision.com/jordan/" (Jordan Rudess)
--
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sha3u@virginia.edu chemistry department
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 14:10:51 EDT
From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: HELP!!!
Message-ID: <38f02f40.355f282d@aol.com>
My Dad thought it would be useful to delete the "system.ini" file from my
computer, and I had to format my hard drive, so I lost my precious "Majesty
Demo's" (mp3's). I had all of them! Since Tom Feiner's site is down, I can't
get them back, anybody feel like sending them to me? Please?!
Thanks a lot!
Art
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:58:29 -0500
From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: LTE
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19970517135829.007b7a60@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
my friend just heard LYE and already is playing some parts of the songs,
like the intro of song 1 and song 8
is that standard?
At 07:07 AM 16/05/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Nilton da Silva J=FAnior wrote:
>>=20
>> Sorry 'bout my ignorance but...
>> Someone could tell me what's "Liquid Tension Experiment" :-}
>
>Yep, it's a secret experiment that NASA astronauts carried out on a
>recent
>mission to Uranus...
>
>graham
>
>
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 19:37:07 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'bduesterhoeft@enter.net'" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
Cc: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: DT in Philly/Camden
Message-ID: <01BD81DE.4C9507C0@MARK>
Hey Bruce,
> I have word that the DT/DP/ELP concert will be coming to the
> E-Center in Camden N.J. on August 14, 1998. Tickets to go on
> sale June 12.
>
> If I found out more before an official word I will let yall know.
The Official Deep Purple Web Pages say they'll be in Canandaigua,
NY that day (Finger Lakes Performing Arts Center)... But they've
been getting "weird info" from DP's management, so who knows...
If you get any official info, please let me know asap.
Thanks. :)
Mark Bredius
____________________________________________________________
Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
* http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: Today
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 16:02:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: HELP!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980517160226.16046F-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
Re: majesty demo mp3s, if anybody wants to send those my way as well, that
would be awfully nice of you.
--
Damon Fibraio, damon@monmouth.com
Keyboardist, Vocalist, musical slut
"One likes to believe in the freedom of music
But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of
integrity."--Rush, 1980
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 16:04:01 EDT
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: HELP!!!
Message-ID: <1e866633.355f42b2@aol.com>
reformatted just because you deleted the system.ini? geez thats going to the
extremes. by the way, if anyone is sending them demos to him, if you don't
mind, put my email address in the "To:" field as well =]
Rocky
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 13:24:21 -0700
From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A Maritime Show Preview.
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980517132421.008c4a90@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
>From: EVO V <EVOV@aol.com>
> I haven't really had the time to mail him lately and ask whats
goin
>on, but the last mail he sent me, about 2 weeks ago he wrote this.......
Uh oh, not another one posting private email publically...
I had a dream last night. And in that dream I dreamt that the sound at the
Maritime show in SF (which, if I am not mistaken, is going to be tonight)
sucked, kept dropping out and the band members got so pissed that Mike spit
on the entire front row. Not with water, with nasty lougie and bile and
all that kinda gross stuff.
Just thinking. Let me know how the show turns out.
Jon
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 14:38:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: On her knees! She was on her knees, I tell you!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980517140134.26704B-100000@otter.mbay.net>
Yo yo,
All right people. My live DT virginity has been taken and, man am I
sore! Uh! So, like, here's the story and stuff.
I took the Amtrack bus from Salinas to San Jose, where I was met by a
happy Lisa Marie, who had just purchased a new car. Mmmmmmm.... Women
with fast new cars... So, immediately upon hearing that I hadn't heard
any Spock's Beard, she tosses some on the sound system, which was very
fucking good I might add. Both the band and the system! :) (Hi Lisa!)
So Lisa kindly drives me up to the city. We got there in about a half an
hour, so I'm pretty sure that we were doing a decent clip.
Step II: Dave and Kim's! You guys rock! Two really really nice
people with two really really nice cats and one antisocial one. We so
missed you guys at the show. Then Niel Evans, Paul Humm, Sean, and
Nickole show up (forgive me for missing you guys' last names.) Man these
guys are the coolest people and they just have to live a bit too far for
an "Oh, I'll hop in the car and pop over" visits. Waaaaaaah! But, like,
we hang out and then Chris Oats (Hi Chris!!!) and his guitarist Chris (Hi
Chris, even though you're not reading this!!!!) come over with their
housemate Stephanne. Can I just say that you guys made me laugh more than
I had in a good solid long time? That was so cool. Finally, the moment
we'd all been waiting for: Coldfire arives with Ryan, M-bone, Pam, and...
I think that was it. (Hi guys!!!) Coldfire proceeeds to lose her voice
well ahead of the show. May I say that you haven't lived until Coldfire
has been on her knees in front of you blowing into your hand? :) (Sorry,
Carrol, I couldn't resist!) So, all the rockin' crowd is there and the
party's good, there's good food, there's pictures goin' on, and everyone's
just freekin' psyched!
Step III: Concert-bound! Bidding a tearful adieu to Kim and Dave, we
set out on the journey. Doing between 80 and 100 mph the whole way, we
arive at the Maritime shortly. We meet Rick Audet, Dr. Mosh, and other
people I don't remember. We get in, after much ado about nothing and the
show starts in an hour and a half. Well, I have to go against the
consensus of my group, I did not like Full on the Mouth that much. They
had a good beat and some interesting ideas, but I just didn't get that
into them. I got a good head-bang out of 'em, though. Then, I cream
myself when DT finally comes out. Not only do they come out, but first
everyone in the club sings Rooster and then they start the set with ACOS!
Fucking awesome!
I'm not going to go through the set lst, so I'll just hit some
highlights. Swaying with the crowd to Anna Lee. Mike playing with random
audience members. James making some comment about baseball when I waved
my cane up at the guys. Carrol suffering stress and tension as I slowly
inch my way up until I'm one person from the stage. JP's unaccompanied
solow where he played My Way and, of course, Flight of the Bumble Bee.
Mike Portnoy playing Eruption while Patrucci sat holding the guitar.
Darick's solow before LITS. The clips from Hot for Teacher, Enter
Sandman, and Have a Cigar. Getting freekin' moshed by big drunk guys with
bad breath.Carrol rubbing up against me. :) (Sorry, again, had to throw
that in there.)
Leg IV: Meeting the Band. So we go outside while Coldfire and
M-bone, Mosh, and others go back stage with passes. We wait a while and
they start coming out. I had a 2-way conversation with John Meyung, thank
you very much. I met James and made him froan with another person
mentioning Caribou. I met JP and, not only got tips on improving vibrato,
not only asked for and received a pick, but recieived *the* pick he had
played with that night. I met Mike and varified that he actually did come
around where I live quite often. Darick just blew right by me. Must have
had a blonde waiting with her lips--I mean arms--open. We met Jenibear
and her husband, which was also very cool. And Woot!!! The famous
Woot!!! I'm so glad I met Woot!!! If only for the fact that I can type
Woot!!! Wooot!!! Woot!!! Over and over again. Mike took a picture with
us and the banner Carrol and Lisa had lovingly crafted for him. Then, we
busted a move.
Leg V: Returning to the Home of the Fire. So we end up scooting
home, grabbing Jack in the Crack at like 3 in the morning and Lisa bails.
M-bone and I go home to crash at Coldfire's. We listen to more sweet
stuff. I gotta get Shadow Gallery's Carved in Stone, LTE, and maybe even
a Conception albom. We crash around 5-30 and I get to listen to LTE until
I wake up, which was awesome!!! (Thank you, Coldfire, for everything!
You're the greatest, babe!) We wake up, or, more like get up, and watch
some Alvan and the Chipmunks before I am escorted by M-bone (who better
move to Cali and jam with me) and Coldfire and sent on my merry way.
I just want to close by saying thanks to all the really nice and cool
people who made this first DT show one of the greatest concert experiences
of my life. I'm so happy that I wasn't Damoned, as Carrol has coined how
not a single NJ jammer could pick up ol' Damon. It was awesome. You
guys will always have a warm fuzzy place in my heart and I hope we do this
again soon. Thanks so much again. Be you all very well.
Matt B
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"That is the truth. Not the hammer and sickle; not the stars and stripes;
not the cross; not the sun; not gold; not yin and yang, but the smile...
Because they died, we know we still live. Because a star explodes and a
thousand worlds like ours die, we know this world is. That is the smile,
that what might not be is." (John Fowles, The Magus)
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