YTSEJAM Digest 4388
Today's Topics:
1) re: Still Life questions
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
2) Powermad Address
by "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com>
3) In Praise of MP
by Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
4) 5YIAL mini-review
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
5) I'm an idiot...
by "Gregory Habetler" <ghabetle@hotmail.com>
6) Bernie Versailles' solos, a 'do it yourself' explanation
by Nathan Rood <nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
7) Other people hearing OaiL
by ytsejam@iname.com
8) Re: I'm an idiot...
by "appoggiatura !" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com>
9) MFP lists for October are up!
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
10) 2CD Cases, Rush, and let's be nice to inanimate objects, mmmkay?
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
11) John Ro's sound
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
12) UaGM & prog suggestions...
by "Joshua R. Brand" <jbrand@mtu.edu>
13) Re: DTIFC
by "s1337866" <s1337866@student.gu.edu.au>
14) Re: DTIFC fan club address....
by Edward Polzin <polzin@uiuc.edu>
15) Rare MTV Interview with Portnoy -- WTF?!?
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
16) Re: Cynic and BLind Guardian
by "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 18:38:08 -0800
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: re: Still Life questions
Message-ID: <327AB410.4B20@fh-niederrhein.de>
Re: Still Life questions
>Phil Carter wrote:
>>
>> Listening to Fates Warning's newest "Still Life" on my way home from work
>> today, I started wondering a couple things:
>>
>> 1) What in the blue fuck is the crowd chanting at the start of "Ivory Gate
>> of Dreams"? It sounds for all the world like "tes-ti-cle, tes-ti-cle", but
>> I hope to hell that isn't it. Anybody wanna hazard a guess?
> hehe... I have no idea... Must be another local saying like the "Zugabe"
>thing...
Yes. The crowd are German and they say : "jetzt gehts los".
"jetzt gehts los" means something like : "now it's gonna start".
Here in Germany, people say "jetzt gehts los" when they're waiting for
a happening.
NP : Arena - The Visitor <--- A must have
Arash
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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:46:33 -0500
From: "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Powermad Address
Message-ID: <000f01be05c7$f6b2db20$cf586acf@ckssrs.axiomnet.com>
Sorry to bring this to the jam as I'm sure we've all heard too much of it,
but does anyone know Keith Menser's email address? I'm sick and tired of
waiting for my CD set. Private mail is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Scott.
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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:06:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: In Praise of MP
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.981101150401.23592A-100000@archa15.cc.uga.edu>
Supwitchall--
Just something funny: last night I was letting a friend hear DT for the
first time, and I chose I&W because I wanted to blow his mind with the
middle of Metropolis. As we were listening, he asked, "Do they have two
drummers?"
I got a real kick out of that.
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Matt Smith
ktulu@arches.uga.edu
"Symphony X is the musical equivalent of the Hammer of God."
-Joe DeAngelo
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 15:25:05 -0500
From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: 5YIAL mini-review
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981101152505.00a14eec@postoffice.ptd.net>
Hey all ... just thought I'd throw in my $.02 on the video (don't have the
CD yet, but it's on its way) ...
To be honest, I was expecting another LiT (which was good) ... what I got
was 3x as good. Absolutely LOVED the behind-the-scenes shit ... I wonder
how many marshmallows Mike actually had in his mouth there ;). Setlist was
great, I was very happy to see the "Damage, Inc." cover, and the unplugged
stuff was EXCELLENT (loved the new intro to LSOAD, and the extended TLF
solos*) ... the closing medley was a great way to end the video (LTL
ROCKED!!) *One complaint about this song ... Where is JP during his solo???
:-o ) Anyway, I've only seen it once, so I'm sure there will be a few
things I missed on the first viewing. Overall, great job Mike!
That's all for now ... looking forward to hearing OiaL very soon!!
"Tonight's gonna suck. I'm just not in the fuckin' mood." -- John
Petrucci ;)
L8r,
Brian
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 12:26:25 PST
From: "Gregory Habetler" <ghabetle@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: I'm an idiot...
Message-ID: <19981101202625.21347.qmail@hotmail.com>
I'd been lurking on this list for FOUR years and now, after mistakenly
typing UAGM instead of Scarred (in reference to the missing guitar
solo), I feel like such an idiot that I'm turning the lurk mode back on.
In another four years I'll try again.
-Greg
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 16:07:01 -0500
From: Nathan Rood <nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
To: Screaming in Ytse <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Bernie Versailles' solos, a 'do it yourself' explanation
Message-ID: <363CCD74.AD049710@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
Ok,
Some people have asked which solos were performed by Bernie
Versailles on the new Fates disc, _Still Life_. Its not that hard to
figure them out yourself, simply pop in disc 2 and don the headphones.
Jim is allocated to Stage Right, so his guitar sound will come through
the left channel of your cans. Bernie's, therefore, will come through
the right channel. No offence, but is this really that difficult to
figure out? Ok, I realize sometimes the stage setup get switched around
backward in the mix (see: OiaL). This was how I figured all the old
Iron Maiden solo's (Live After Death).....
-Nate
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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 16:36:05 -0500 (EST) From: ytsejam@iname.com To: The Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Other people hearing OaiL Message-ID: <98110116360524.05804@web02>
It's not just me.=20 Other ppl, got a listen to OiaL at a Vorspiel, and, of course, they said,= wow.=20 The solo's was great, they thought, and started to wonder about the size = on Mike's legs and John P.'s underarms.=20 Me, I'm a little disapionted about James on Disc One, but, he gets better= on Two.=20 5 is not in Norway yet, but the APSOG-video by FW is in town, HAMAR, and = I'll be enjoying it on Monday.=20 He, he, he.=20
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 13:59:03 PST From: "appoggiatura !" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: I'm an idiot... Message-ID: <19981101215904.9898.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey Jammers.....
In response to this..... > >I'd been lurking on this list for FOUR years and now, after mistakenly >typing UAGM instead of Scarred (in reference to the missing guitar >solo), I feel like such an idiot that I'm turning the lurk mode back on. >In another four years I'll try again. > >-Greg
Greg, listen to it one more time. The solo is done at the beginning of the song in a little bit different format....If you listen closely, it's still there.....
Later POJ =o)
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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:21:47 +0100 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Freaks mailinglist'" <freaks@axnet.net>, "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: MFP lists for October are up! Message-ID: <01BE05EE.69553620@147.153.dialin.mxs.nl>
Freaks:
http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/
Ytsejam:
http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/indexdt.htm
Enjoy! :)
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Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 04:18:59 -0700 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: 2CD Cases, Rush, and let's be nice to inanimate objects, mmmkay? Message-ID: <005a01bce6b7$f51f3cc0$280d84d0@korgx3>
>seen... I guess you've never seen the Rush / Chronicles case, have ya? By
Hmmm... I can't disagree with that except that I really despise those bulky things. :) I prefer slimline 2CD cases, as long as they don't fall apart. One week strong and my OiaL case is doing damn well. :) Speaking of Rush... It's damn great to be able to flip on the radio and hear Freewill jamming over the waves (Radio waves, splash in my head, to the rhythm that I crave...) Too bad I can't pick up Salt Lake's KBER where I live. I never really realized there were radio stations that played cool shit most of the time! All I get is country and oldies radio. :P
> ...and I don'y like the fat-ass 2CD cases like Chrinicles and DM
Well, I didn't call them that... I hate to hurt their feelings, let's now refer to them as "spatially disabled."
And OiaL was a great companion to a 2-hour road trip, I must say. :) -- KorgX3
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 00:43:32 +0100 From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: John Ro's sound Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19981101234332.006d59b8@unet.univie.ac.at>
hey there! all those missing the bass - stop listening to Petruccis solo all the time! ;) nah, to be serious. i think the sound is way cool. i like OIALs production. better than FII. but there is one thing that is not so perfect. especially in Pervuian and Petruccis solo there is some unnatural distortion in his sound. its only somewhere in the right field of the stereo image and it sounds like an overblown effects processor causing digital clipping.ugly thing. but it might as well only be a bad microphone. all in all nothing to really worry about, cos the sound in general is amazing!!! ytsegreetings
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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:10:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Joshua R. Brand" <jbrand@mtu.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: UaGM & prog suggestions... Message-ID: <199811020210.VAA21860@login.ice.mtu.edu>
Hey all you 'jammers out there...
First, regarding the post in the last Jam-a-thon...
>> -Greg, who wept like a child when he heard UAGM on OIALT end before the >> guitar solo
>Errrrr....... It's really late, and i'm REALLY tired (so maybe I'm not >making any sense), but what what in the Sam-hill are you talking about? >Did you mean to say a different song? Last time I checked, Under a Glass >Moon wasn't on OIALT...
I think he speaks truth. I'm guessing, Greg, that you cried when you reached the end of Scarred... I know I destroyed some property when I realised John wasn't going to play his solo... alas, that's life.
Secondly, the other day BMG sent me Journey's Greatest Hits in the mail, 'cause I hadn't sent in my card. Well, I just kept that sucker, having fallen in love with the album over the summer while I borrowed it from my friend Heather. Plus, the new one is 20-bit remastered and sounds golden.
Anyhoo, I realised last night that this means I have four free CDs coming from those nice folks at BMG. I was thinking about diving into some King's X or FW, and was wondering if you KX and FW fans on the jam (last time I checked it was most of you) could advise me as to which to get first, or any other helpful suggestions for my free discs. Remember, they have to actually be carried by BMG, so don't tell me to buy "When Pus Comes To Shove." I can go to Music Boulevard for that. Thanks in advance, eh!
Odelay, Josh
-- "Hey, Derek, what'cha doing today? "Making history. You?"
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:38:09 EST+10000 From: "s1337866" <s1337866@student.gu.edu.au> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: DTIFC Message-ID: <63E045746F@morpheus.student.gu.edu.au>
Does any of the Aussie jammers know how much of our pissant dollars we are supposed to send to the DTIFC??
Plese respond Private email...
Cheers
Paul D.
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 21:11:50 -0600 From: Edward Polzin <polzin@uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: DTIFC fan club address.... Message-ID: <363D22F6.36838273@uiuc.edu>
I'm just curious that since i'm already a current fan club member, when i need to send my renewal money. Please let me know as i dont want to miss out on the Christmas cd. later.
Jan-Michael wrote:
> Quoting Dan Russell in Jam 4383: > > >This is a letter open to anyone who knows the answer. Possibly Neil > >Elliott or Skadz!!! > >About a month ago I sent my check and registration form to the DT Fan > >Club the address I used is as follows. > >DT International Fan Club > >PO Box 20206 > >Greenly Square Station > >New York, NY and the ZIP > > > >I don't know what the story is but is was sent back to me saying that the > >box is no longer available and that it is closed....could someone please > >email me back in private and let me know what the correct address is > >because I wanna make sure I get the Christmas CD and other > >goodies...thanks > >Dan Russell > > Dan and others in the United States.... > > To join the DTIFC international fan club, here's the deal.. > > Send a $20 dollar bill (CASH ONLY, no Money Order or Check) and conceal it > inside a simple greeting card or something to hide the cash... > > Label the envelope just like this... > > Dream Theater International Fan Club > Headquarters Address : D.T.I.F.C. > P.O. Box 1067, Caterham, > Surrey CR3 5ZU, England > > Inside the envelope and this is important... write a note with the following > information... > > Your full name, your full mailing address, and your BIRTHDATE. > > Do it SOON so you will get your DTIFC fan club CD and your birthday > surprises when your birthday rolls around :)) > > Jan-Michael
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 00:56:50 -0500 From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Rare MTV Interview with Portnoy -- WTF?!? Message-ID: <4.1.19981102003625.00a1d240@po7.mit.edu>
Before you read ANY of this...keep in mind that MTV would (unfortunately) never give DT the time of day....THIS IS A JOKE. A FUCKIN' JOKE! Treat it as such:
The following is an excerpt of an interview Mike Portnoy, the former drummer of Dream Theater, had with MTV today:
[first part of interview omitted because of damaged interview tape]
MTV: "What about Rena having the child?"
MP: "Well, John's decision on going to his wife's side in her time of need was just fuckin' ridiculous. I mean, we're in the studio, the four of us, trying to cut a new album to get ourselves through the next 3 months, ya know? No record - no money. How the fuck are my kids supposed to live without daddy bringing home the bacon? It was totally a selfish move on John's part."
MTV: "So what is next for you?"
MP: "I dunno. I was thinking about going solo, like Zappa? But, then again, I don't smoke enough shit to write stuff like that. I was thinking about filling in as drummer for the Pumpkins, cuz their drummer overdosed on heroin. It would certainly be a step in the right direction in terms of money because the Pumpkins have already sold out and they are bringing in the dough."
MTV: "What does Dream Theater plan on doing? Are they going to find a replacement for you?"
MP: "I've heard rumours that they aren't going to replace me. Go figure -- fuckin' stupid move if you don't ask me. But then again, who do you fill my shoes with? I'm THE BEST. YOU HEAR ME GUYS, THE BEST!! Fuck, it doesn't matter who they fill my shoes with -- have the No Doubt drummer step in... see if I care. DT will lose their balls and chunk without me."
MTV: "Wow, it sounds like you have a lot of hatred towards your former bandmembers."
MP: "Well, wouldn't you be pissed off if you were me? I mean, first you have John Myung who doesn't fucking talk. Then there is Petrucci who wishes he could be as good as Slash. Fuckin' James LaBrie can't tell an eskimo from a fuckin' dolphin -- you know how those Canadians can be...and then Derek. Don't start me on Derek."
MTV: "What about Derek?"
MP: "The drugs...the women. He's not in it for the music. He could give a shit about Dream Theater. He uses the band as a way to get laid every night of the year. If women only knew that Derek has AIDS, then maybe they wouldn't be so quick to jump into bed with a 'rock star'."
MTV: "Derek has AIDS?"
MP: "Yeah...he contracted it somewhere in Europe. In Holland I think. We were in Amsterdam smoking up in some cafe and then Derek went along the boulevard and paid for 5 women at once for 5 hours. One of them hookers must've given to him. Anyways, that's what inspired Derek to write the music for Anna Lee... it's Queen influence came from the fact that Freddy Mercury also had AIDS."
MTV: "Wow, I guess you never can tell..."
MP: "Well, did you know that John Myung had throat cancer? Why the fuck do you think he's the 'Silent Man'? He lost his fuckin' voice box due to laryngitis. Before the Awake sessions, he had a laryngectomy and couldn't speak since."
MTV: "One last question Mike...have you regretted any of your past as a member of Dream Theater?"
MP: "Well, when it was the four of us back in John Petrucci's garage writing demos...back when Kevin was in the band, I was looking forward to a successful career. I knew we had something. And, when we got Dominici, I definitely thought that was it. But, after Charlie left the band, things started going downhill...James joined, which just wasn't the same -- he couldn't sing like Charlie...and then AIDS freak had to replace Kevin cuz Kevin realized that DT wouldn't go anywhere with James....I guess I should have bailed the same time Kevin did and started writing with him. We could have been a good combo -- you know, like Hall & Oates. But, that would've ended in about 5 years, cuz of Kevin's testicular cancer. I guess we'll see where this crazy game called life takes me next. Without a doubt though, I know I'm going to the top, and I don't have to worry about those other 4 DT thugs holding me back."
DISCLAIMER: THE PRECEDING IS A FAKE INTERVIEW (FAKE = MADE UP) THAT WAS INFLUENCED BY SOME VETERAN #YTSEJAM IRC-ERS TEASING NEWBIE #YTSEJAM IRC-ERS.) IT'S ONLY PURPOSE IS TO AMUSE YOU, THE YTSEJAMMER. DO NOT TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
Disclaimers aside, I hope you enjoyed this! Bogie
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Date: 02 Nov 1998 13:38:31 +0100 From: "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Cynic and BLind Guardian Message-ID: <tku90huqng8.fsf@zussun4.desy.de>
Hi all,
>> Not to mention Blind Guardian.....:)
Luke> I'll second that too... "tommorrow, oh take us away, far Luke> from home, no one will ever know our name...". Cheers to Luke> Jason for the cool BG vid clips too.
Ah, thanks for the thanks. I thought that the machine the clips was on would just freeze up if so many people tried to get them at once. On one day we had 1GB of downloads!! People have to wait a little while for them since they are so big but "good things come to those who wait". :-) Nice to see that some people enjoy my BLIND GUARDIAN comments. *grin*
Jason
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