YTSEJAM Digest 4405
Today's Topics:
1) Re: you know...(NDTC, but damn I had to do it)
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
2) Re: "A Time to Rut" (MoL)
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
3) Queertallica
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
4) Magna Carta production
by Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
5) LoneWolf/Seattle/'Show me what you can do'
by "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
6) Live concerts
by Bill Wrightson <bwrights@dnaent.com>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4403
by Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
8) One Pissed Off Moderator
by MaxArbot@aol.com
9) OiaL FOR SALE
by Markus Tenberge <markus.tenberge@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
10) Re:The mother of all mp3's (ACoS 93)
by AL <al@isd.net>
11) Campitelli
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
12) Who knows Angra ?
by Nuno <bnavarro@ppp1.colband.com.br>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4404
by Thrak75@aol.com
14) Re: Who knows Angra ?
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
15) about the acos93.mp3
by "trev.monster" <trevin@apexmusic.com>
16) ridiculous
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
17) DT in German charts
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
18) info requested about "Mosaic" and "The Darkest Of Winters"
by Michael Zachariadis <mzahar@cc.uoa.gr>
19) Last one on Mosh...
by "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl>
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 03:50:53 -0700
From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: you know...(NDTC, but damn I had to do it)
Message-ID: <3642D48D.5CA52C9E@imap1.asu.edu>
Thrak75@aol.com whispered into my ear:
> you disappear from me for almost a year, tease me for a tiny bit, and all of a
> sudden you're gone again. hmph. *pout*
I'm sorry man...ever since I got in that brutal zipper accident with
Derek's leather pants....It's taken me quite some time to get over and
out of my system. But the doctors say I'm okay. Satan says I'm better
than okay and the doctors are wrong, but ah, I'm rambling again.
> i'm assuming you're having as much of a ball with 3rd year as i'm having with
> 2nd year. and i'm assuming that's what keeps you busy.
Like my momma always used to say...masturbation makes the world go
round.
> just thought i'd drop a quick note to say hey, and see how life was treating
> you. i'm a little better than miserable, but not quite cheery. i guess it> sucks that i don't like most of my classes. but oh well. such are the
> pleasantries of life.
Just do as I do, go out and climb a bell tower...or Tower Records with a
thermo nuclear detonator and a sling shot. Great fun, especially when
you nuke some of those pussy assed cape wearing goths. ;^) For all
legal liability, I personally don't participate in *cough* such
activities but uh....read that it SUPPOSEDLY reduces stress....
There's not much happening on this side of the puddle. I accidently
sent a really personal email to this big ass mailing list I'm subscribed
to the other day, hoo doggy. Did i feel like i had been caught pissin'
on the wall with my dick in the wind....
> write back when you get a chance, and i'll talk to you soon.
> always,
> david
You keep in touch too, buttercup. ;^)
~Eckie in a blue dress
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 04:30:04 -0700
From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: "A Time to Rut" (MoL)
Message-ID: <3642DDBB.9EAFB92A@imap1.asu.edu>
KorgX3 whined his ho ass off again, yo:
> Eckie's somewhat domesticated, but he's still so stuck on Derek he
> won't have anything to do with me. :( And there is no evidence that a
> Tarrasque exists in the world. Hell, there's nary a crature about that can
> compare to my 10 HD and 138 hp. Having a 25 Constitution really sucks,
> because nothing can keep up with me. :(
Look man, Derek does a better postal worker routine than you do.
Capice? Get the tight blue slacks and if you can make it out of that
splits manuvuer, I'll give ya a second chance, otherwise, make like a
Spice Girl and CHUKKA CHUKKA WUKKA AAHHHHHH! Uh oh...the voices are
coming back to me....
(You know, I think i was killed by one of 'em Tarrasques the day after I
beat the dungeon master's ass in tennis...)
Speaking of gay, has anybody seen the new George Micheal video on MTV?
GODDAMN IS THAT FUNNY SHIT!!! I lost control when I saw the disco balls
drop down from the bathroom cieling and the urinals revolve into shiny
silver decorations. Ah, who needs the cheese of the 70's when you can
have the crap and the comedy of the 90's with just as much funk? :)
~Eckie slices his cheese sticks in half with automatic double damage
from his Great Longsword of Marilyn Manson Fan Slaying
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 04:48:37 -0700
From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Queertallica
Message-ID: <3642E215.2DE5A076@imap1.asu.edu>
Before being circumsized upon the altar, Max Verran wrote:
> And what do you mean Queensryche is due for a letdown? Dream Theater was
> brilliant since the dat they formed (I still need Majesty 1986), and
> NOTHING they have done has been a sellout OR a letdown (Oh yeah, I
> remember... some of you actually didn't LIKE FII! I do NOT understand
> this... I think it's better than IAW and Awake. There's more to it, and
> it doesn't sound the same. So sue me).
Wellll, I love FII...but after thousands of listens and a good year's +
worth of quality time with my copy, I prefer the RAW POWER AND CRUNCH OF
AWAKE!!!! ***RRAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH*** Plus that whole theme of going
through a day in the life of a schizophrenic is so easy for me to relate
to. :) I mean, come on...I wake up to Mike Portnoy's wiggidy whack beat
and end the "day" by watching Conan O Brian and hating the world. So
true to life, so true....
> But does anybody know WHY DeGarmo left?
> I wonder how QR will sound now... when does the new one come out?
Saying he LEFT Queensryche is like saying uh.... Well, ok, he got his
ass booted while he was still too high to know what was going on. He
still thinks he's in Queensryche, but he's so drugged up...I saw him on
Mill Ave. in Tempe, AZ wandering the streets aimlessly in a pink and
yellow tu-tu singing, "MOTHER MARRRRRRRRRRRRRYY MARRRRRRRRRRRRY
JAAAAAAAAAAANE! Whoa, bitchin' headrush....you got some weed?"
Word from our pals in the Queensryche camps (Oh what a lovable bunch of
fans they are; anybody who was with me online at the last QR online
interview knows exactly what i mean) is that the new album is supposed
to rock nice and heavily ala Operation:Mindcrime and Empire. I'm not
holding my breath. >8^*
And now for my Matisse-ism for the day,
:^)
This is not a smiley.
~Eckiedor Dali
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 23:05:13 +1000
From: Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Magna Carta production
Message-ID: <3642F409.A9D4D42B@winshop.com.au>
Doc wrote:
> This is my biggest pet peave about SG... and pretty much all Magna
> Carta releases... what's with the shitty production?? Why can't they
> spend money for real studios and real mastering?
That's one gripe I've also had about Magna Carta but never seen anyone
here mention, until now...
It is directly one of the main reasons why I've never really been albe
to get into bands like Enchant and Lemur Voice. Both these are obviously
extremely musically talented and have more chops than the local butcher,
but the production, for me, hampers the overall album.
I do like both Enchant and Lemur Voice, but with a crunchier production
I feel 'A Blueprint Of The World' and "Insights' could be better.
Cheerin'
Luke.
PS. For an album that I thoughy may have relied a little too much on
production effects to carry it along, APSOG performed live in Still Life
proved me horribly wrong, this album kicks arse something chronic.
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:08:28 -0500
From: "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: LoneWolf/Seattle/'Show me what you can do'
Message-ID: <390762D98D63D2118C280060081358CC1CF7BD@HAMSXHA2>
> From: LoneWolf <e8825527@student.tuwien.ac.at>
>
> LoneWolf is dead.
This is the funniest post I have read in a while.
> From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
>
> This club in Seattle somehow gets old bands to play there like Berlin,
> Missing Persons, Dead or Alive, Flock of Seagulls, and even
> Rick Springfield. Old metal too, like Bang Tango, Quiet Riot and
> Cinderella.
Aw, man, now that just sucks. Here I am, stuck in Boston, and the only thing
I can get that's even close to a good 80's band is the Human League/Howard
Jones/Culture Club tour. Meanwhile, out in Seattle, friggin' FLOCK OF
SEAGULLS is playing one-shots.
I might just have to up and move, man... this sucks.
Anyways, on to matters that people on the jam might appreciate more than my
fascination with John Hughes movies and Molly Ringwald...
I was listening to "Show me what you can do" (Steve Smith, Frank Gambale,
Stu Hamm) with my roomie last night, and it came to me - as if in a vision -
that this album, which I previously panned as not being as good as "Vital
Tech Tones" (Steve Smith, Scott Henderson, Victor Wooten) is just friggin'
unreal. Hit me like a ton of bricks right over the head as soon as the first
song came on. Maybe it's because, for the first time, I listened to it on my
home stereo instead of my car (I have a pretty good system in my car, but my
home system recently got the addition of two more speakers to make the sound
just HUGE). Anyone who is a fan of any of the members, or just wants
something new to groove on, should get either of these two albums (and
bassists take note - Stu's solo in song #3 of SMWYCD [don't have the CD here
with me] is just jaw-dropping).
NP: Night Ranger: Greatest Hits (go ahead, laugh. I'll flatten you like a
fucking PANCAKE, BOYEE.
Nicholas Giannotti
Joint STARS Contracting
giannottin@hanscom.af.mil
"A day without sunshine is like....night."
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 07:09:59 -0600
From: Bill Wrightson <bwrights@dnaent.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Live concerts
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19981106130959.01387f20@lotus.dnaent.com>
Pat Daugherty wrote:
>I was wondering with the new DT, the new Fates, LATM, Savatage's live
>discs... Doesn't anyone make a live album in front of a US crowd
>anymore? I mean what's the deal? Its always "live in Japan" or something
>to that effect.
For what its worth, Rush's new live discs (as opposed to disc 3 which is a
new old disc) are mostly from Chicago!
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 08:39:51 -0500
From: Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4403
Message-ID: <4.1.19981106083734.0092c510@pop.usefulware.com>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Bobby T. wants to know:
>So, what band did a Lovecraft concept album?
You must have joined recently. The band I was talking about was Payne's
Gray, the subject of the post (and thread). The album is "Kadath Decoded"
and you must own it. No excuses. You will be assimilated.
ta,
Phil
==================================================
Phil Carter -- Usefulware Tech Support -- phil@usefulware.com
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."
-- Berthold Auerbach
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:29:12 EST
From: MaxArbot@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: One Pissed Off Moderator
Message-ID: <bbef0789.364307b8@aol.com>
Skadz...it's okay...we still love you.
[eriC]
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:19:30 -0100
From: Markus Tenberge <markus.tenberge@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: OiaL FOR SALE
Message-ID: <199811061520.HAA23328@knight.axnet.net>
Hi all,
unfortunately I got a second copy of OiaL (and I had to pay for both) so
there's one I'd like to sell. This is especially interesting for german and
european jammers:
Price: 32,- DM within Gemany
35,- DM within Europe
THIS PRICES INCLUDE SHIPPING!!! As I had to pay 49,90 DM for the 2CD I think
it's a fair price.
Please contact me privately if you're interested. Thanks.
Markus
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:48:07 -0600
From: AL <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re:The mother of all mp3's (ACoS 93)
Message-ID: <36431A37.A3A05AEA@isd.net>
trev.monster wrote:
>For all you freaks that've never heard the pre-EP version of ACOS, go to:
>http://dreamtheater.ml.org/acos93.mp3 (19.3MB in 128kbps/44kHz stereo)
Thank you. I down-loaded that and have listened a few times...
I like the "finished product" they gave us in 95 much better.
It's very cool indeed, just not a cool as the EP studio version.
-- AL... The Ytse-ProgtologistSwitchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Outside of a dog, a book is probably man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:48:04 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Campitelli Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809086@messaging>
< Hmmm..I dunno. I kinda like his drumming on CP. Its neat, it grooves, it doesn't get in the way. Lots of fills don't really appeal to me...unless it's DT, then it fits right in. But Satch's music is much simpler, and doesn't seem to require many 12th note fills. Just my opinion though :) More groove, less chops. >
I guess it's entirely an opinion thing, but I don't get the "groove" feel when I listen to CP. I just kinda see it as keeping the beat so Satch doesn't have to use a metronome (that's going a little far, but my point is across :) )...
David Dixon Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:11:09 -0200 From: Nuno <bnavarro@ppp1.colband.com.br> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Who knows Angra ? Message-ID: <36431F9D.FF239D65@colband.com.br>
Does anyone there knows the brazilian band called Angra ? Please show me your opinions...
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:20:04 EST From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4404 Message-ID: <6d3c4096.364321b4@aol.com>
woops. don;'t you hate when you send email to the wrong address?
sorry
wild koba
************************************************************************ david y. kobayashi new york law school thrak75@aol.com http://www.mzachary.com/wildkoba (updated 11/1/98)
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:02:47 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Who knows Angra ? Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9811061500550.24637-100000@rebutosa>
On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Nuno wrote:
> Does anyone there knows the brazilian band called Angra ? Please > show me your opinions...
Angra? Who's Angra? That Brazilian band with a cookie-monster singer called Andrey Floresta or something like that?
Never heard of them. :-)
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:27:30 -0600 From: "trev.monster" <trevin@apexmusic.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: about the acos93.mp3 Message-ID: <001901be09ab$05d42780$a9252e9c@trevin>
Before anyone starts a "I clicked the link and the file wasn't there..." or "what was that URL" thread, the guy who owns the site just emailed me and said he accidentally deleted the file while trying to download it....ARGH!!
I'll let everyone know when it's back up!
Trevin
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:36:01 PST From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: ridiculous Message-ID: <19981106173601.12448.qmail@hotmail.com>
sometimes I am not sure if the majority of the speakin people of this list is major or minor...
Anyway, I got Black Light Syndrome and I am very pleased. Perfect music, because IMO it has two great spheres. First it's good for easy listening, just background. Second it becomes better if you listen closely. Good record.
schnipp
NP: Poison-Nothing but a good time
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 19:03:00 -0800 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: DT in German charts Message-ID: <3643B864.58FA@fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi
"Once In A LIVEtime" has entered the German top 100 charts at position 59 ! Rhapsody's "Symphony Of ..." is new at 54th !!!
Just a quick info :
In 1994, "Awake" entered the charts at 28th. In 1997, "Falling Into ..." entered the charts at 9th position.
NP: Rush - Test For Echo (track : Time And Motions kicks so much ass)
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 20:37:54 +0200 From: Michael Zachariadis <mzahar@cc.uoa.gr> To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: info requested about "Mosaic" and "The Darkest Of Winters" Message-ID: <36434202.DD959C04@cc.uoa.gr>
Hi there jammers
Could someone inform me, privately, about the quality of two boots: Dream Theater's "Mosaic" and "The Darkest Of Winters"
Thanks Mike
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:46:38 +0100 From: "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl> To: "YTSEJAM MAILINGLIST" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Last one on Mosh... Message-ID: <002801be09b7$f5d69ae0$23856dc2@dl.xs4all.nl>
Jon wrote:
"Perhaps before suggesting that a Ytsejam vet get kicked off the list he helped create (I am a bit rusty on my Ytse-history), you should probably find out who he is. Doc, for better or worse, is here to stay."
>>>>Yeah someone told me all about him today..... As far as I'm concerned, being the creator of this ML does not give you the right to insult and belittle people..... Please keep him on the list... We'll give him a hard time.... read below:
Stefan wrote:
"Now, "the Doc" is obviously on this list in order to give everyone a hard time. So, please everyone, from now on we all ignore whatever the Doc say. If you feel upset or have a need to respond - do it privately. If this sad person feels he need to post here, let him do it AND IGNORE HIM. "
>>>>Hell yeah..... This is much easier even.... This way he might leave on his own initiative.....
Good one: BH wrote:
"Unfortunately for the good Doctor, this particular form of mating ritual has not proven successful. It's approximately 40,000 years out of date. But this was expected by researchers when they thawed him out of the glacial ice in which he'd been frozen all that time."
>>>>To use the Doc's words: BAHAHAH
To just respond briefly to this piece below here written by Mosh:
<<<When did living in the Netherlands entitle you to a valid opinion??
>>>>Since Dream Theater choose the Netherlands to do the special gig..... And because we have the biggest DT fan club, with the most loyal fans..... Obviously Mike and Co. would be very dissapointed by such immature behaviour of one of their fans.... I bet you are twice as old as me.... You don't come across so tho......
This being the last official reaction to one nerd called Dr. Mosh... I greet all of you serious music freaks.... Next time I'll post about something interesting....
Stickmaster D.
P.S. Mosh... don't continue or react on this..... I will not respond .....
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