YTSEJAM Digest 4262
Today's Topics:
1) Symphony X and Conception t-shirts?
by Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
2) Re: Is the Jam hosed?
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
3) DT Photos from SF, Aug. 28
by "G Sz" <gszumski@neo.lrun.com>
4) Cuz I'm B-I-L-B-O...OI! OI! OI! OI!
by "Earle Jason" <earle_jason@bah.com>
5) Rare shit
by "Bobby Tufino" <SlimeGod@deskmail.com>
6) Steve Vai Crossroads
by "Simon Christie" <simon@guitar-studio.demon.co.uk>
7) Replying to messages
by "Simon Christie" <simon@guitar-studio.demon.co.uk>
8) Live: Japan
by Everett Painter <evpainte@davidson.edu>
9) LOTR soundtrack
by "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com>
10) OAN: Fiction of Sadness (Vanden Plas bootleg)
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
11) Re: New Angra Single "Lisbon"
by MTeiper@aol.com
12) Re: Sony Playstation Games
by Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
13) Re: Sony Playstation Games
by TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
14) Re: Symphony X and Conception t-shirts?
by "Bj?rnar Bevolden" <bjornar.bevolden@hm.telia.no>
15) Re: Lord of the Korgs
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
16) Entertainment/music industry (NDTC)
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
17) Attention LA jammers...
by Bunny1682@aol.com
18) Re: Lord of the Korgs
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
19) Slightly off-topic
by Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:44:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Symphony X and Conception t-shirts?
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980909134244.18940A-100000@archa11.cc.uga.edu>
Supwitchall--
Does anyone know if any Symphony X or Conception t-shirts exist, and if
so, where they might be found? I've searched and searched to no avail.
Thanks.
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Album Currently Playing: Conception--In Your Multitude
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Matt Smith
ktulu@arches.uga.edu
"Symphony X is the musical equivalent of the Hammer of God."
-Joe DeAngelo
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:03:33 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: Yts <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Is the Jam hosed?
Message-ID: <35F6C2F5.2781@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
> work, just for a date! I have tried switching the date on my PC to Jan 1
> 2000. Nothing happens! And I don't think I have a 4-digit year in the
I have one of those digital scales, and on Jan 1, 2000, I shall weigh
0 lbs.
:)
-- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*ech`echo xiun|tr nu oc|sed 'sx\([sx]\)\([xoi]\)xo un\2\1 is xg'`ol
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:11:23 -0400 From: "G Sz" <gszumski@neo.lrun.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT Photos from SF, Aug. 28 Message-ID: <002501bddc1d$43b77220$62d4d2cc@george.neo.lrun.com>
>These are brilliant! > > >http://www.deep-purple.com/reviews/us98/pictures/San_Franci sco_Aug28/ > >--
So my brother sends me this e-mail and says 'have a look'.
I do so. Now I'm saying 'have a look'. Cool pics to be seen here. That's it for this round. Later, G.
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 14:17:17 -0400 From: "Earle Jason" <earle_jason@bah.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Cuz I'm B-I-L-B-O...OI! OI! OI! OI! Message-ID: <35F6C62D.F5A723AB@bah.com>
> Perhaps some of you have heard about the last big project Hollywood > has > to fulfill : > > The Adaption of "Lord of the Rings" to the big screen.
Dude, you know that AC/DC will get into the soundtrack - Tolken has the orcs say "OI!" when they're capturing the dwarves and bilbo. (Of course gandalf is busy dropping quarters into his sock to bust dem orcs upside dey motherfuckin' heads, BITCH BOYEEEE....) I could see Angus Young screaming "Down, down to goblin town...OI, OI, OI, OI..." We could definately use some DT in there, although since Hollywood sucks, they'll no doubt stick Nirvana, Hole, Weezer, and Presidents of the United States in the soundtrack somewhere. Oh well, at least maybe we'll get lucky and they'll cast Leonardo DiCaprio as a dwarf. Leonardo: "Kili at your serv---"*SMACK* Bilbo: "SHUT UP, BITCH."
I want the part of Gollum. I'd dress up in a gold sequined Elvis costume and start singing
"Oh one last Fish, oh baby one last fish... it never felt like this...oh baby one last fish... Oh baby... SUFFER..." (Bye-Bye Birdie, for those of you who weren't in the know...)
PS, wouldn't there be 4 movies, not counting Silmarillion?
l8r,
the Earle of Ytse
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 14:28:42 -0400 From: "Bobby Tufino" <SlimeGod@deskmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rare shit Message-ID: <35F6C8DA.294D0343@deskmail.com>
Greetings jammers. I have been away for a while, so I realize my question is outdated and therefore may be answerted with several "where the fuck have YOU been?"s....I am prepared for that. Basically I was wondering if anyone has any idea if there are any available versions of Raise the Knife with lyrics. I have the instrumental one, and I think it's some of DTs best stuff...so I really wonder how the vocals are (I heard them before their show in Tampa last year but don't really recall). Also, maybe some of you jammers with technical computer wisdom can help me on this one: I have in the past downloaded several MP3 files and when they play back, I hear it osunding all garbled, like bubbling...I can hear the music, at the right speed and all...but it just sounds horrible. This has happened to me with many DT MP3s, but the most recent and most disappointing was the classical piano version of ytsejam. I really wanted to hear that. So any jammers with some info on these things please write, I figure there may be a few other jammers like myself waiting for such information. Thanks to all.
"SlimeGod" Bobby Tufino
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:10:28 +0100 From: "Simon Christie" <simon@guitar-studio.demon.co.uk> To: "YTSEJAM" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Steve Vai Crossroads Message-ID: <004f01bddc20$420797e0$6489edc1@simon-s-pc>
>Well, you may think that it sounds like Paganini, and yes Paganini is >very difficult-I have the tab to caprice 24-its tough, but the piece >at the end of crossroads is NOT Paganini. > >It is Steve's interpretation of a classical piece written by guitarist >William Kanengiser entitled Reprise of a Turkish March. William also >played all the other classical bits in the film. Incidentally Ry >Cooder was the blues guitarist trading off with Steve Vai at the end >of the film. > >I hope that clarifies the issue. > >Cheers > >Simon
Yeah I had a feeling that it wasn't Paganini. In fact I believe that the piece that Vai plays is called "Eugene's Trick Bag". I don't know how similar it is to the Reprise of the Turkish March that you mentioned but I haven't heard that piece. Eugene's Trick Bag is transcribed on the net if you can get into OLGA (parts of it are still up).
Simon Christie (Note new email address)
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:31:34 +0100 From: "Simon Christie" <simon@guitar-studio.demon.co.uk> To: "YTSEJAM" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Replying to messages Message-ID: <005001bddc20$43343100$6489edc1@simon-s-pc>
Hi
I know this is totally NDTC but by helping me you will save yourselves a lot of grief. I have just changed ISP's and I can now use Outlook Express yet when I try to reply to the jam it insists on quoting the entire digest instead of just the section or message that I want. I used to use AOL and found it much easier since you just highlight the part you want and create a new message. Sorry for using the jam for this but any help would be appreciated. Please email me privately so that I don't take up space on the jam.
Thanx Simon Christie
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 15:47:56 -0400 From: Everett Painter <evpainte@davidson.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Live: Japan Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19980909154756.0090c940@phoenix.davidson.edu>
Hi all....
I keep seeing info about "Dream Theater Live '98" + bonus tracks being released in Japan. I have seen this at the Artist Shop, Jart Music, and other places. Is this the Japanese version of Once in a LIVEtime? Apparently there are not supposed to be any bonus tracks on the Japan. release. So can someone clear this up?
Thanks - Everett
PS - Just got my japan. version of FII yesterday. WOW....nuff said.
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:55:18 PDT From: "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LOTR soundtrack Message-ID: <19980909195518.5930.qmail@hotmail.com>
You guys are forgetting one key band....RUSH!!!! Bytor and the Snowdog ring a bell? Necromancer? Anyways, maybe not all Rush or DT for the soundtrack but it MUST be a progressive rock soundtrack. We shall crush the competition. The crushing will be swift. The crushing will be painful. And there shall be none left in our path. Beefcake. muahahahahahaah.
Wild Bill
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:18:26 -0400 From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com> To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: OAN: Fiction of Sadness (Vanden Plas bootleg) Message-ID: <CB366B2843EBD111AA9600104B6A9EF04FFB21@wak-mail2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
Here's my initial non-compensated thoughts on the new bootleg from OAN records (e-mail = Oanrec@aol.com). To true VDP fans, this is probably a must purchase. To the casual fan, it may depend on your current financial situation.
Two CDs, US$30, postpaid (first class and not turtle class) to the US. CD double jewel box included in the price. CD liner included and even pre-cut to fit. Audience DAT recording with what I would have to assume is some post-processing to clean up the sound. Reassuring to be paying for CDs and not to be financing the purchase of somebody's fucking gaming store.
Well, it's not a well kept secret that I love to be anal, so here are some nit-picks. The CD liners from OAN seem to be quite sticky. Both of mine have stuck to the jewel box although by extracting them and letting them "dry" for a day or two remedies this situation (???). Maybe after OAN prints them, they could let them dry a bit. The mailer was a bit wimpy and my CD jewel case cover was broken slightly. This is no problem for me because I keep many extras around, but others may bitch. Maybe by putting some cardboard around the CD before putting them into the mailer may be helpful. Last nit is that I am not sure if they wanted to identify the band members in order on the back cover picture but if they intended to do so, the order is wrong. I know for sure that Gunter is in the middle and I think that the order from left to right is: Andy/Andreas/Gunter/Stephan/Torsten.
The overall sound was decent, and quite similar to Static Progress. The CDs are taken from basically four shows, with two being acoustic. All shows were from the last 12 months. The sound on some shows was better than others but for a boot, the quality is at least as good as almost anything that ever came from "you-know-who". In fact, one portion of "Fiction" came from the same show as Static Progress. Shit, was that a great show to be at (ha-ha-ha, Skadz) !! The sound on the last three tracks (bonus songs from the Carolina IV gig in Paris this April) was tops. I am starting to like audience boots better than soundboard boots for the live feel of the reaction of the crowd.
I understand that it may have been difficult to decide whether to make this one CD or two CDs. For the casual fan, I think that the many repeats (3 renditions of two songs, 2 renditions of at least five other songs) may not be appreciated and one CD would have been better. But for the real fan - which is probably 90%+ of the people who are looking for these - the various renditions (electric/acoustic) are probably even welcome. Some highlights include a satisfyingly different acoustic treatment of "You Fly" and "How Many Tears".
High quality and efficient service once again with under a two week turnaround time including a US holiday which had to add at least 2-3 days of mail delay at my end !! I am really looking forward to future releases, especially one from a band that rhymes with Mangra !!
Mark Metzger mmetzger@comversens.com
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:33:36 EDT From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: New Angra Single "Lisbon" Message-ID: <67e10496.35f6f430@aol.com>
Hey Jammerz -
I have a question about the new Angra single for "Lisbon". One of the B-Sides is an acoustic version of "Make Believe". Can someone confirm for me whether this is a live recording from an acoustic show, or whether it's the original recording from "Holy Land" with an acoustic guitar track substituted for the electric guitar (like The Acoustic Remix of "I Dream In Infrared" by Queensryche)? I'd really appreciate some feedback... if someone can either post to the Jam or e-mail me privately, I'd be very grateful. Thanks!
- Matt T.
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:38:00 -0500 From: Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Sony Playstation Games Message-ID: <l03130300b21ca4aba594@[128.83.128.188]>
well, actually, have you noticed how the playstation CD-ROMS are black? That's for piracy protection. You can still make copies of the games, but the playstation will not recognize them unless they are the black variety, which I think are not available to the public. If you have a playstation emulator on your computer, then you might be able to get around this little problem, but you can't play copied games on a playstation (my friend has already tried).
James C. Shields Undergraduate University of Texas at Austin Undeclared in Liberal Arts and Proud of it! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spread before you is your soul So forever hold the dreams within our hearts Through Nature's inflexible grace I'm Learning to Live Dream Theater "Learning to Live" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 17:50:49 -0400 From: TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Sony Playstation Games Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980909175049.007d7580@mail.clemson.edu>
>problem, but you can't play copied games on a playstation (my friend has >already tried).
not on a regular playstation, but you can get a mod chip installed (or install it yourself) for like $15-20 which prevents it from checking the copy protection and that way you can play copied games, foreign games, and homemade games on it. your first trip to blockbuster more than pays for the chip :) i don't have one in mine or anything, just passing along information for the curious. This is for educational purposes only, etc. :) Moo.
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:05:16 +0200 From: "Bj?rnar Bevolden" <bjornar.bevolden@hm.telia.no> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Symphony X and Conception t-shirts? Message-ID: <35F6FB9C.D547F85D@hm.telia.no>
Hello ! I`ve got a black t-shirt with the Symphony X logo on the left of the chest. Don`t know where to get it though, it think it was sent out as promotion from their recordcompany.
Bye, Bj=F8rnar, Norway !
NP: Symmetry: To divinity
Matt Smith wrote: >=20 > Supwitchall-- > Does anyone know if any Symphony X or Conception t-shirts exist, and if > so, where they might be found? I've searched and searched to no avail. > Thanks. >=20 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > Album Currently Playing: Conception--In Your Multitude > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > Matt Smith > ktulu@arches.uga.edu >=20 > "Symphony X is the musical equivalent of the Hammer of God." > -Joe DeAngelo > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -----
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:40:52 +0200 From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Lord of the Korgs Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980909224052.0069ae24@unet.univie.ac.at>
>>But then, i could do it, too. :P >>KorgX3
need a guitarist?
Dryheat (...in Houston they say that?)
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:11:04 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Entertainment/music industry (NDTC) Message-ID: <35F70B08.60BBB94D@home.com>
Wow. Here's some encouraging (*gag*) news about the entertainment industry. Forbes just recently it's list of top earning entertainers for '98.
Included in the top 40 are the following musicians...... 9. Rolling Stones 57.0 Mil. 10. Master P 56.5 Mil. 12. Celine Dion 55.5 Mil. 14. Garth Brooks 54.0 Mil. 15. Sean (Puffy) Combs 53.5 Mil. 20. Spice Girls 49.0 Mil. 36. Will Smith 34.0 Mil. 38. *etallica 32.0 Mil. 40. Dream Theater 30.7 Mil........ Oh hell, just kidding about that last one. I WISH though!
I must add that it's really nice to see so many of those nice rapper boys up there. ;-)
Oh by the way.... Jerry Seinfeld was #1 with 225.0 Mil.
Odd bit..... Howard Stern wasn't in the top 40!? That seems really surprising to me.
Here's the URL in case anybody is interested: http://www.forbes.com/tool/toolbox/top40e/index.htm
--
- Joe D. jdeangelo@home.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heaven must be more than this / When angels waken with a kiss Sacred hearts won't take the pain / But mine will never be the same He stands before the window / His shadow slowly fading from the wall And from an ivory tower hears her call / "Let the light surround you"
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:12:32 EDT From: Bunny1682@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Attention LA jammers... Message-ID: <d71c0b00.35f70b60@aol.com>
Hello everyone, I know this is probably old news, but did anyone go to the Deep Purple/Dream Theater concert in LA on August 31? If you did, please email me. I guess I should explain that I met DT at Guitar Center before the show (but didn't go to the concert), went around and told everyone how utterly awesome the guys were, and hence wound up with an assignment for a DT article in my school newspaper. Sorry if my motives aren't pure, but I really would appreciate any comments anyone might have on the concert. (A set list would also be very nice.) Please help me enlighten the herd of sheep-like ignoramuses with the light that is Dream Theater...
Thanks, Jenny Bunny1682@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:08:05 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Lord of the Korgs Message-ID: <001101bddc4f$18be6560$360d84d0@korgx3>
>>>But then, i could do it, too. :P >>>KorgX3 > >need a guitarist?
Nah, I can cover all the bases, I just need to hire some-fucking-body to stand over my shoulder and kick me in the jimmy every once in a while. I must have ADS or something, cuz whenever I try to write anything, I end up going on some 2 hour improvisational fun spree and can never remember anything I played. I really need to invest in a tape recorder with a mic input.
C'mon, Raisinsack! Kick Me In The Jimmy! yyyyyyyyyYYYYYYYYES! AGAIN! -- KorgX3 NP: 12 Monkeys (Ain't DVD grand?)
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:22:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Slightly off-topic Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95q.980909185545.616F-100000@napier.uwaterloo.ca>
> What a load of bullshit that is, anyway. OK, I'm no technician or = > anything like that, but I honestly can't see why the hell they shouldn't = > work, just for a date! I have tried switching the date on my PC to Jan 1 = > 2000. Nothing happens! And I don't think I have a 4-digit year in the =
Sigh... being a programmer, I hear this kind of stuff all the time. First of all, the computer industry is one which is evolving incredibly rapidly. When a lot of the affected code was written, the technology, software engineering practices, etc. that we have now simply didn't exist. In addition, it becomes unfeasible to replace a lot of systems because so much money was put into developing them in the first place. It's not easy to replace software that's been tested with 30+ years of real-world use with brand new, unproven code. Just ask Bill Gates. For all of his billions, he still can't build a decent operating system - nothing that measures up to some of the software that's been around for decades (such as UNIX - since the early 70's).
Secondly, the real problem isn't in whether your PC will "run". In fact, the Y2K bug has hardly anything do do with PCs. It's the legacy code written in the 60's and 70's before PCs were even invented that form the problem. The actual problem is not in the date itself, but comparing dates.
If you think it's bullshit, you should try writing software. I'm not old enough to know what it was like prior to the 80's. But I remember hacking around on an Apple ][ when I was a kid, and even then, EVERY SINGLE BYTE of space you could save meant a lot. A date of the form mmddyy is 25% smaller than a date of the form mmddyyyy, and at the time, that could make a huge difference. And this was in the 80's, not the 70's or 60's.
> I can't help I'm worried, though.
Good, because anyone who says "it's no big deal" is full of crap. Look at the effect the Asian and Russian economies have had on the rest of the world. If Greenspan sneezes, the markets go nuts. It's not like airplanes will start falling out of the sky, or nuclear missiles will be launched at random targets, but a LOT of companies are way behind in the game, and there will likely be a HUGE economic impact.
It isn't just poorer countries either. For example, the UK, from what I've heard, is way behind the US and Canada as I know in dealing with the problem. And there are already a lot of organizations here (the City of Toronto for example) that probably aren't going to have the problem fixed in time.
BTW, the first problems will begin on 9/9/1999, not 0/0/2000...
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