YTSEJAM Digest 4267

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Totikus's fave movie
     by Oysterman <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
      2) Lord of the Rings
     by Nigel Bridgeman <nigel@losfer.com>
      3) last supper music
     by Madsag@aol.com
      4) miscellaneous debris
     by Andreas Schaefer <jerry@muc.de>
      5) Re: last rites....
     by tasi@teszt.webreklam.hu
      6) NDTC: KingsX & Galactic Cowboys Tour Info
     by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
      7) LotR/One last album
     by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
      8) Derek
     by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
      9) Nicole's new mailing lists
     by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
     10) used cd's, anybody?
     by Thrak75@aol.com
     11) ZERO room for improv.
     by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     12) Metropolis part II
     by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>

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    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:40:20 +0100
    From: Oysterman <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Totikus's fave movie
    Message-ID: <98Sep11.083730gmt+0100.31363@gate.tranemo.se>

    > I'm kind of surprised nobody has mentioned Amadeus -- it's somewhat
    > musically themed, entertaining & thought-provoking at the same time. Go
    > see it sometime.

    I don't see how the hell I could forget that. I have no idea. I must be ill or something.
    It's one of the best darn movies I have ever seen! And it has the best soundtrack of them all... ;-)

    Go see it ALL the time!!! :-)

    //Oysterman
      Heading for the "most frequent poster" top 10... ;-)

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    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:17:46 +1000
    From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigel@losfer.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Lord of the Rings
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980911171746.00d1f82c@ozemail.com.au>

    Hi

    OK, here's what I know about the "Lord of the Rings" movies.

    *There will be three films. They will all be filmed in New Zealand by
    Peter Jackson.

    *Sean Connery will NOT be playing Gandalf (Jackson himself has confirmed
    this). The main characters will all be played by unknowns, although there
    may be familiar faces in supporting roles.

    *Filming begins (I believe) next year, with the first film being released
    in 2000. They will then be released a few months apart.

    *Hobbits and other short people will be played by normal-sized actors who
    will appear to be short via special effects.

    That sums up what I know so far. For the score I'd prefer someone like
    Danny Elfman or Elliot Goldenthal or Jerry Goldsmith or someone like that.
    John Williams might be OK but I'd say his score would just be the usual
    overblown piece of work (which is not to say that I don't like him, I do,
    he's one of the best in the business, but I don't think his style would suit).

    I hope this all helps.

    Well, cheerio.

    Nigel

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    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:22:34 EDT
    From: Madsag@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: last supper music
    Message-ID: <446407f7.35f8ebda@aol.com>

    neil wrote

    << and you were allowed to listen to just one last album while eating your
    last meal, which album would you choose? >>

    little earthquakes - tori amos
    thats my answer for any question when i can only pick one album.

    if i could only hear one song.
    probably Debussy's Clair De Lune

    -melissa
    madsag@aol.com

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    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:05:30 +0200
    From: Andreas Schaefer <jerry@muc.de>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: miscellaneous debris
    Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980911120527.006865bc@mail.muc.de>

    Hi there,

    "miscellaneous debris" seems to be my annual posting title..

    - Superior: Younique
    Whoooohaaa, this CD was an unexpected surprise and believe me I had high
    expectations. Lots of really heavy/chunky guitars, great melodies and some
    very unusual stuff inbetween like the background vocals and horns on "Free
    minded" and "Detect: myself". Track 3 "Nothing" and tr.10 "This promise"
    remind me of Empire-era-Queensryche, especially "This promise" has a
    "Silent lucidity" feeling, without beeing a rip-off.
    Overall a great metal-CD with a very modern touch. 10/10
    One more thing - Bernd if you read this: Gratulation zu diesem genialen
    Album, jetzt muesst ihr nur noch in Muenchen spielen!

    - Music for my last hour alive:
    I guess "Temple of the dog" would be my choice. DT would be so obvious, but...
    DT music is just _so_ positive, I&W would make me want to live on.
    For the same reason I'd chose not to have a last meal or have sex for a last
    time, it would just increase the wish not to go.
    A nice dram of 21 year old Springbank and "Temple of the dog" could bring me
    in the right mood. Anathema and Tool would also be possible choices.
    Hmmm, doesn't sound that bad maybe I call Dr.Kevorkian tonight....
    Or I just watch CNN until i puke myself to death...

    - Lord of the Rings:
    check the interview with Peter Jackson at http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/
    Excerpts: there will be 3 movies - that means approx. 6h for the whole story
    and since there doesn't happen too much, the first book will be cut down to
    a prologue.. And: Sean Connery will _not_ be cast as Gandalf.
    Jackson wants to give the whole thing a more _realistic_ touch as opposed
    to all the fairytale-fantasy-films => LotR should get more of a "Braveheart"
    feeling instead of the "Willow" style.
    That would imho leave an opportunity for a rather modern soundtrack in
    the vain of Progrock acts like Dream Theater... although I'd prefer Blind
    Guardian to do the job (somebody send Peter Jackson a tape of "Nightfall.."!)

    - Favorite films/movies
    is this off-topic or what...
    . if you care for my taste e-mail me privately

    read you - jerry :--)
    NP: Primus - Rhinoplasty

    -- 
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    Andreas Schaefer                                   jerry@muc.de
      ...bei 200 Grad 15 Minuten backen, und keine Eier! - Tool
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    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:29:23 +0200 (CEST) From: tasi@teszt.webreklam.hu To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: last rites.... Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980911132736.12674A-100000@teszt.webreklam.hu>

    Hi !

    > >> and you were allowed to listen to just one last album while eating your > last meal, which > >> album would you choose? I think my choice would have to be Aenima by Tool.

    What about Maiden's Number of the Beast? :). Hallowed be thy names lyrics match the real life :)

    Tasi

    "Oh well, whenever, wherever you are Iron Maiden's gonna get you no matter how far!" (Steve Harris)

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    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:51:40 -0400 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NDTC: KingsX & Galactic Cowboys Tour Info Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980911085140.007aae10@mail.erinet.com>

    here's the info people have asked for...

    album news: GC - "At the End of the Day" (Sept 22, Metal Blade) KX - "Tape Head" (Oct 20, Metal Blade)

    King's X & Galactic Cowboys Fall Tour '98 ========================================= taken from my site (http://WWW.DLM.NET/GC/)

    (Wed) October 7th W. Springfield, VA Jaxx Nite Club 6355 Rolling Road (703) 569-5940 or (703) 471-7612 $20, 18+ show, 8:00pm

    (Th) October 8th New York, NY Tramps 51 W. 21st St (between 5th & 6th) (212) 727-7788 or (212) 544-1666 $16, ALL AGES, 8:00pm

    (Fri) October 9th Old Bridge, NJ Birch Hill Nite Club (aka Birch Hell) Rt 9 South (908) 536-0650 or (908) 536-0044 $11, ALL AGES, 7:00pm

    (Sat) October 10th Poughkeepsie, NY The Chance 6 Crannell St. (914) 471-1966 or (914) 471-2490 $12.50, ALL AGES, 8:30pm

    (Mon) October 12th New Haven, CT Toad's Place 300 York St. (203) 562-5589 or (203) 562-3694 $13.50, ALL AGES, 8:30pm

    (Tues) October 13th Boston, MA The Axis 13 Lansdowne St. (617) 262-2437 price/time info needed, 18+ show

    (Wed) October 14th Providence, RI The Station 211 Cowesett Ave. West Warwick, Rhode Island (401) 823-4660 or (401) 821-2663 show info needed

    (Fri) October 16th Cleveland, OH The Agora Ballroom 5000 Euclid Ave. (216) 881-6700 or (216) 881-2221 $14, ALL AGES, 9:00pm

    (Sat) October 17th Cincinnati, OH Annie's 4343 Kellogg Ave (aka Rt 52) (513) 321-0220 or (513) 321-2572 $13, ALL AGES, 8:00pm

    (Sun) October 18th Chicago, IL House of Blues 329 N. Dearborn St. (312) 923-2000 or (312) 923-2029 $17.50, 21+ show, 8:30pm

    (Mon) October 19th Minneapolis, MN Ground Zero 15 NE 4th St. (612) 378-5115 $15, 18+ show, 9:00pm

    (Tues) October 20th Milwaukee, WI The Rave 2401 W. Wisconsin Ave. (414) 342-7283 or (414) 342-4536 $12, ALL AGES, 8:00pm

    (Fri) October 23rd Seattle, WA The Fenix Underground 315 Second Ave S. (206) 467-1111 or (206) 343-0716 $12, 21+ show, 8:30pm

    (Sat) October 24th Portland, OR The Roseland Theater 5 NW 6th Ave. (503) 221-0285 $15 (+ $2 at Fastixx outlets), 21+, 9:00pm

    (Sun) October 25th San Francisco, CA Slims 333 11th St. (415) 255-0333 show info needed

    (Mon) October 26th Santa Ana, CA Galaxy Concert Theatre 3503 S. Harbor Blvd (714) 957-0600 $18.50, 21+ show (2 drink minimum), 8:00pm

    (Tues) October 27th Los Angeles/ Hollywood, CA The Palace Theatre 1735 North Vine (213) 467-4571 $17, ALL AGES, 8:00pm

    (Wed) October 28th Phoenix, AZ The Mason Jar 2303 E. Indian School Rd. (602) 956-6271 or (602) 265-3268 $17, ALL AGES, 8:00pm

    (Fri) October 30th Austin, TX Liberty Lunch 405 W. Second St. (512) 477-0461 or (512) 476-7165 $14, ALL AGES, 9:00pm for tickets, Tel: (512) 474-2500 Fax: (512) 474-2522 Email: info@waterloorecords.com

    (Sat) October 31st -- HALLOWEEN San Antonio, TX White Rabbit 2410 N. St. Mary's (210) 979-5900 or (210) 734-9994 $12, 18+ show, 7:30pm

    (Sun) November 1st Dallas, TX The Galaxy Club 2820 Main Street (???) 742-5299 show info needed

    (Tues) November 3rd Kansas City, MO Roadhouse Rubys North 5502 NE Antioch phone number needed $12, 21+ show, 9:00pm

    (Wed) November 4th Omaha, NE The Shadow 1516 Jones St. phone number needed $12, ALL AGES, 9:00pm

    (Fri) November 6th St Louis, MO Mississippi Nights address & phone number needed show info needed

    (Sat) November 7th Lincoln, NE Guitars & Cadillacs 5400 O St. phone number needed $12, 19+ show, 9:00pm

    (Sun) November 8th Springfield, MO Juke Joint 221 South Avenue (417) 831-5651 show info needed Directions: 1 block South of the square in downtown

    (Tues) November 10th Spartanburg, SC Ground Zero 146 South Church Street (803) 948-1661 show info needed

    (Wed) November 11th Atlanta, GA The Cotton Club 1021 Peachtree St. (404) 874-1993 price info needed, 18+ show, 9:00pm

    (Th) November 12th Nashville, TN 328 Performance Hall 328 4th Avenue South (615) 259-3288 $10 adv/ $13 door, 18+ show, 8:00pm

    (a few more dates to come)

    Dan

    +--- ---+ Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web dantemm@erinet.com http://www.dlm.net/gc/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "He who laughs last thinks slowest" +--- ---+

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    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:20:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> To: we be ytsejamming <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: LotR/One last album Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980911090437.29653A-100000@gs.bass.org>

    I stand corrected. But, even if Jackson makes 3 movies @ 2 hrs apiece, they're still going to have to cut 40% of each novel, and believe it or not, timing is important in storytelling. I'd like to see how they depict the ringwraiths, but (again, IMO) they can't do better than the animated version. Nuff said.

    If I had to choose one album before ending it all, it would have to be something depressing enough to convince me life was not worth sticking around. Therefore, in all good conscience, I could not choose DT because it inspires a zest for life. My first choice would be Roger Waters' opus Amused to Death (I'd still want a couple of repeat listens). Second choice would be Peter Gabriel's Passion Soundtrack, which is really too good. A good final song is Pearl Jam's "Indifference" but the rest of Vs. is too uplifting (maybe not lyricwise, but in terms of overall feel, the band is having fun).

    NP: Stratovarius-Episode Bjork-Homogenic VA-Schizoid Dimension, Tribute to KC ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's thought for the Month:

    Don't sweat it, we'll get it back to you. Overkill...

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    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:36:20 -0400 From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Derek Message-ID: <35F93564.E69B9189@trw.com>

    Actually I dont think Derek has been online at all the last few days.

    I have AOL instant messenger setup at work so I added him to the buddy list and it blinks whenever someone on the buddy list logs on. He usually was online a lot but not so the last few days.\

    I've seen Portnoy online once ever...

    NP:Superior-Younique -- |----------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email: Pat.Daugherty@trw.com | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |================================================================| | "Hail To The Redskins, Hail Victory" | |----------------------------------------------------------------|

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    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:54:23 -0700 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Nicole's new mailing lists Message-ID: <35F9399F.B303CA6C@pacbell.net>

    AyameYuki@aol.com wrote: > > HEY ALL YOU DT LOVERS: > > I MADE UP A MAILING LIST <snip> > Visit and start posting...maybe i can have a rival link to your DT mailing > list Lisa !

    Hey, there's no rivalry necessary. The Mirror mailing list was never really intended to be a "chat" list, so I'm glad you've created a place where you musicians can talk tech.

    But heck, if Brian Hansen will bring the crisco and plastic tarps, I'm game for a little wrestling! ;o)

    Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl _______________________________________________ The #Ytse Mirror - #ytsejam news & gossip http://www.dreamt.org/ytsemirror/ _______________________________________________ The Mirror - The VERY Moderated DT Mailing List http://www.dreamt.org/ytsemirror/themirror.html

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    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:18:11 EDT From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: used cd's, anybody? Message-ID: <8a8526ae.35f93f33@aol.com>

    hi there. i'm trying to get rid of some cd's. send email if interested. if you know someone who might be into one of these cd's, send them my way. thanks a lot.

    wild koba

    >the following items are up for grabs. all items include postage (w/in the us- if you're outside of the us, add $2).

    >$5 >-fight "immortal sin" (autographed) > >$8 >vai "sex and religion" >best of emerson, lake and palmer >tom waits "small change" >symphonic music of yes >guns and roses "use your illusion 2" >the alan parsons project "eve" >megadeth "youthanasia" >tales from yesterday- the yes magna carta tribute >king crimson- "in the court of the crimson king" >rage against the machine >john coltrane- "blue train" >ozzy osbourne- "diary of a madman", reissue version

    >$12 >yes "yessongs" (2 cd's, converted into a slim double jewel case)

    ************************************************************************ david y. kobayashi new york law school thrak75@aol.com http://www.mzachary.com/wildkoba

    "insects that are merely noisome like to think that they can also sting." -k. sorabji ************************************************************************

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    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:48:03 +0200 From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ZERO room for improv. Message-ID: <35F8E3C3.B0B6FF2D@mol.com.mk>

    > From: Nathan Rood <nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu> > Subject: hypocrasy stings again, DTC really! > > > There is ZERO room for improv. in a > > Dream Theater song. Still, I loved some of their new stuff (Peruvian Skies in > > particular) > > This is a hillarious review, the guy literally sits there at the show watching DT do > the take-offs on Pink Floyd and M*tallica during Peruvian Skies and then runs home to his > computer going "there's no room for improv in DT". Alas, if they only could've had more > time on stage to jam out Metropolis. BTW-I sent my review of DT's set that I posted here > the morning after the show I went to to the Highway Star......maybe they'll post it?

    Someone corrected that the guy meant "improvement". Anyway, even if he meant "improvisation" it doesn't have to mean negative comment. On the end, he would be kinda right. While it's true that DT try to refresh their song, but c'mon, can you really improvise a solo like on classical rock song (Smoke on the Water...). Nope! The rhythm, breaks, Petrucci's solos are all based on it and if he just dares to improvise here there goes he down the ...whatever. :) He CANNOT improvise alot on Metropolis or UAGM kinda solos. Now, this should be literally taken. If Petrucci read this maybe he'll get pissed-off, go up there and prove us all wrong. ;)

    Dushko -- \|/ _____________________________o_o_______ <| \ / |> <| "Chuck! Chuck! This is your cousin ...|> <| your cousin, Marvin Berry! |> <| Remember the new sound you were |> <| looking for? Well listen to THIS!" |> <| |> <| - Back To The Future I |> <|_______________________________________|>

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    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:58:01 +0200 From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Metropolis part II Message-ID: <35F8E619.13267D6A@mol.com.mk>

    > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:10:47 +0200 > From: fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender) > Subject: Metro II > > On On last last night's night's episode episode of of the the > Ytsejam Ytsejam,, Dushko Dushko wrote wrote:: > > >P.S. Attemp #2: Is Metropolis part II going to be on the new studio > >album???????????? > > Okay, once more, MP said they have a song called Metropolis part II, they will > POSSIBLY record it NEXT YEAR, and only God, or whoever's running EastWest, > knows if it'll be on the next studio album. Happy now? :-)

    Overwhelmed, blooming from happiness. Ah, what a wonderful day's outside. Oh look, a lady selling flowers! Off to buy some! :)

    .......

    > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:06:38 +0200 > From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> > Subject: MetII already recorded > > PS:Dushko: MetII has already been recorded and is locked away in EastWests > safe wiatin to be released. Mike said that in an interview with german mag > "Heavy oder Was?" He said: "MetII is lying in the safe of our label an is > waiting for its release. We have pushed to our limits all the progressive > elements so that we sort of settled down for the other songs (of FII). > Actually it should have been on FII, but we would have had to kick too many > other songs." > Question "what are we gonna get in MetII?" > MP:"Sickness!! Totally overdrawn. We reworked a lot of elements from Part I > and got totally into it. As we gained back our consciousness the thing had > grown to 25 mins." > (Heavy oder Was? 6/97 translated so sorry for the grammar....hope you get > the meaning, hehe.)

    Oh look a here, it was already recorded! How how abbbbbout that that, Five Fivengrok! :)

    Dushko -- \|/ _____________________________o_o_______ <| \ / |> <| "Chuck! Chuck! This is your cousin ...|> <| your cousin, Marvin Berry! |> <| Remember the new sound you were |> <| looking for? Well listen to THIS!" |> <| |> <| - Back To The Future I |> <|_______________________________________|>

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