YTSEJAM Digest 4266
Today's Topics:
1) Re: heavenly creatures
by Paul Kendall <pkendall@wave.co.nz>
2) Enchant - Break
by Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4263
by Stixntrixx@aol.com
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4264
by AyameYuki@aol.com
5) Re: Hot foreign Artists, etc....
by MentalHunk@aol.com
6) Re: One album only
by "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
7) DTIFC 1997 Christmas cd for sale
by Kevin <kvill@flash.net>
8) last rites....
by Alex Smith <bacchus@azstarnet.com>
9) Tolkien & Derek S.
by "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com>
10) Re: Lord of the What? Huh? Who?
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
11) LotR/ Lords of Sound - Kiss the Stone/ Payne's Gray
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
12) Happy Birthday to......
by JE78674@ltu.edu
13) Re: Tolkien & Derek S.
by "Saxon" <hazex@jps.net>
14) If I could listen to one album only before I die.......
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
15) Invitation to join ytseitalia@onelist.com
by dada@iname.com
16) LotR & Rush
by Oysterman <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
17) Saxon whines
by Oysterman <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
18) One album before death...
by Oysterman <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:55:26 +1200
From: Paul Kendall <pkendall@wave.co.nz>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: heavenly creatures
Message-ID: <l03130301b21e04b7356d@[203.96.193.145]>
Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>Someone with too many numbers in his e-mail address(much like my old
>plattsburgh one) said:
>
>>Heres' my faves....
>>
>>Heavenly Creatures
>
>and a bunch of other crap.(heh)
>
>All I can say is, it just so happens I saw this movie two days ago,
>after I'd already submitted my fav. movie list. Otherwise, it would have
>been near the top. It's finely directed, it has wonderful special
>effects, great acting, and... kate winslet as a lesbian.
This movie was based on a true story in New Zealand from the 1950s and was
Peter Jackson's first attempt at directing a mainstream movie. His earlier
movies like "Bad Taste" and "Meet the Feebles" are hilarious but quite
different. He has always managed to have impressive special effects
despite a small budget. "Frighteners" is a more recent example of this.
It will be interesting to see how he pulls off the "Lord of the Rings"
trilogy.
Paul
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:11:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Enchant - Break
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980910200825.27601A-100000@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>
I was wondering if Enchant's new album Break is out in the States yet
since there has already been a little discussion about it already from
some of you. I checked the Magna Carta web page and couldn't find
anything. I checked the official Enchant page and couldn't find anything
except that it is due out summer or fall 1998. Are they still with Magna
Carta?
Robert Taylor
rctaylor@uiuc.edu
http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rctaylor
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:27:25 EDT
From: Stixntrixx@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4263
Message-ID: <ae04cd09.35f87c7d@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-09-10 09:06:10 EDT, you write:
I read about a new program that BMI has just introduced. This program
searches
the web for copyrighted material that is used without permission. It reads
au
wav. .ra and possibly mp3 formats.
www.bmi.com/what'snew/musicbot.html
>>
It's called BMIMusicBot. And it's the reason that when I start my publishing
company in a couple months, I'll be affiliating with BMI.
Richie
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:44:28 EDT
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4264
Message-ID: <17936e98.35f8807c@aol.com>
HEY ALL YOU DT LOVERS:
I MADE UP A MAILING LIST>>>>YOU"LL HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR IT TO GET THE POSTING
STARTED <A HREF="http://www.findmail.com/list/musiciansinfluence/">FindMail:
musiciansinfluence</A> ( or ) <A HREF="http://www.dreamtheater.net/"> </A>F
<A HREF="http://www.findmail.com/list/musiciansfeedback/">indMail:
musiciansfeedback</A> ( these two links are MY mailing lists...so basically
I HAVE the authority to sign you up...but the plus is that anyone can
join...but im sorta clueless about HOW to sign you guys up ( takes awhile,
that's what i can say! be patient ! ) and this is the major link for a cover
band dedicated to Dream Theater! ( the band is named after my personal fav "
Images and Words "..cool eh ? )
so, in closing,
Visit and start posting...maybe i can have a rival link to your DT mailing
list Lisa !
Nicole
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:45:20 EDT
From: MentalHunk@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Hot foreign Artists, etc....
Message-ID: <85e7e72d.35f880b0@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-09-10 20:12:02 EDT, you write:
<< If you are curious about Japanese music scene, let me know. Right now,
Vigilante, Zenith, Blindman, and Concerto Moon are hot Japanese HR/HM
bands as well as United and Outrage. >>
I think this is great ! Its nice to throw new names out now and then so we can
check them out , see if we like them, etc.....This is what makes the world
wide web so great ......Keep it up guys and gals !
(example..... I first heard of Kamelot from a trade with MArkus Ollila
(spelling ?) and I love em now )
Tom
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:21:05 -0400
From: "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: One album only
Message-ID: <000201bddd33$360af400$d215ca98@rob>
NGA wrote:
"you were allowed
to listen to just one last album while eating your last meal, which
album would you choose? I think my choice would have to be
Aenima by Tool. This album sometimes gets me so pissed with the
rest of what calls itself humanity that I would quite happily leave it
for ever. Any other takes on this one?"
-----
mine would have to be pretty hate machine by nine inch nails. that
disc is just so emotional and really is great when your pissed as
hell. something i can never have and ringfinger really connect with
me.
anyways, on a dream theater note (or prog at least), i saw a review of
Explorer's Club-Age of Impact in NY Newsday's Nightbeat section. I
thought that odd. I will post it later if i have the time and u guys
wanna read it.
=A0=A0=A0-Rob, bassicrob@geocities.com ICQ# 15762800
bassicrob@new-york.crosswinds.net
DT MP3 Archive, Artwork, LTE Desktop theme, bass solos, and me
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:28:26 -0500
From: Kevin <kvill@flash.net>
To: YtseJam Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DTIFC 1997 Christmas cd for sale
Message-ID: <35F898D9.D8A3165C@flash.net>
Subject says it all. Send offers to kvill@flash.net
Thanks, Kevin.
-- ----------------------------------------------------------- Used CDs are always for sale at: http://www.flash.net/~kvill/cds4sale.html Updated regularly! -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:42:01 -0700 From: Alex Smith <bacchus@azstarnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: last rites.... Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19980910204201.007a1100@azstarnet.com>
>> and you were allowed to listen to just one last album while eating your last meal, which >> album would you choose? I think my choice would have to be Aenima by Tool.
No way, jose.... If I had to pick one album to listen to before I die, I know exactly what it would be:
Symphony No. 9 in D-Minor, Opus 125 ("Choral") by Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827)
I think the Ninth Symphony blows away anything, even on this list, even on any list, or anything else at all, out of the water. I think if there is a God, Beethoven found a way to talk to him.... Beethoven is the only classical music figure I've ever really gotten into, but he is one of my heroes....
"The old ultra-violence."
If I had to pick a non-classical album.... I have absolutely no idea.... Actually, it would probably be something by the Police (greatest hits, definitely), for several reasons which I won't bother expounding upon here except for the fact they involve a great love for someone and the fact that Synchronicity was, literally, the first album I ever heard....
Alex Smith bacchus@azstarnet.com
Subdivisions (Rush): http://www.azstarnet.com/~bacchus/rush/
"I see priests, politicians? Heroes in black plastic body-bags under nation's flags I see children pleading with outstreched hands Drenched in napalm, this is no Vietnam. I can't take any more, should we say goodbye? How can you justify? And they call us civilized." -Marillion (Fish)
"Music is a dreadful thing." -Ludwig van Beethoven
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:19:30 -0500 From: "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tolkien & Derek S. Message-ID: <199809110432.VAA19527@odin.ax.com>
I stared in utter disbelief when Mark Philpot wrote:
>WHAT THE HELL IS "LORD OF THE RINGS?"
"Lord of the Rings" is a 3 part story set in a magical fantasy setting. It was written by J.R.R. Tolkien. It is the first story of its kind to be written and hands down the best. All modern fantasy authors rip off Tolkien in one way or another but they have never been able to surpass him. They never even come close and they never will.
Ryan wrote:
>Well Derek is gone, cause a select number of ignorant fuckers on >here like to bash him.
I have been gone for a while so this Derek getting his feelings hurt is new to me. I find it sad that the people who like DT bash the same people in DT. On the other hand someone should have told Derek that the 'jam is not a place where you should go if you don't want to get flamed. We are all picky bastards :))
Thorin
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:20:12 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Lord of the What? Huh? Who? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980910232012.008dc870@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
>B. WHAT THE HELL IS "LORD OF THE RINGS?" I've never heard of this befor= >e >this post... is this some novel or series or what? >
Tolkien wrote the lord of the rings...it's a fantasy story in 3 books....it's about magic, weird creatures and that kind of stuff...lots of hobbits....
I havent read much but I will.....Im reading about everything now....I have 4 months to read all that my mind can absorb.... --- MP3 of the week - "Coyote Face (LIVE)" By Z http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/2025/
Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico -------------------------------------------------------- TAKE NOTE OF MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: alan_estrada@bigfoot.com
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:48:32 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LotR/ Lords of Sound - Kiss the Stone/ Payne's Gray Message-ID: <35F8B9B0.F915343B@home.com>
> Any attempt at trying to > force 3 (or 4 if you count the Hobbit) long novels into 2 hrs is going to > be disaster.
!?!?!? They're going to do all three LotR books into ONE movie? You're right, that does sound awful! They'd have to chop 80% of the story!
> Could someone send me a review of these? Also, what is the reputation > of KtS records?
I've ordered "Mind Control" and "Lords of Sound" from Kiss the Stone, and gotten excellent service both times.
As far as "Lords of Sound"....... great stuff!
> Yes, outstanding, and definitely. Payne's Gray was my major discovery of > the year this year (Symphony X was last year's) and I can't imagine why > more people haven't heard of them, or listened to their amazing album > "Kadath Decoded".
I'm curious about how the vocals are. I've only heard Realaudio's...... and at points the vocals were almost painful to listen to. I'm thinking it might just have been the crappy RA though. BTW....... the mood and music did strike me as pretty damn cool.
--
- Joe D. jdeangelo@home.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heaven must be more than this / When angels waken with a kiss Sacred hearts won't take the pain / But mine will never be the same He stands before the window / His shadow slowly fading from the wall And from an ivory tower hears her call / "Let the light surround you"
- Dream Theater, from "Surrounded" (lyrics by Kevin Moore) -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:54:57 -0400 (EDT) From: JE78674@ltu.edu To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: Happy Birthday to...... Message-ID: <01J1NVU6MC1U8WWE12@LTU.EDU>
On this day, September 10, 1996, Test For Echo was released.
Let's hear it for RUSH and hope there is more to come than just the live set.
Later,
Jeff "Aire" E.
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:09:27 -0700 From: "Saxon" <hazex@jps.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Tolkien & Derek S. Message-ID: <003201bddd4a$bc3a55e0$010000c0@p200>
Agreed. . .I would also like to get off this list, I just need to know how.
> >I stared in utter disbelief when Mark Philpot wrote: > >>WHAT THE HELL IS "LORD OF THE RINGS?" > >"Lord of the Rings" is a 3 part story set in a magical fantasy setting. It >was written by J.R.R. Tolkien. It is the first story of its kind to be >written and hands down the best. All modern fantasy authors rip off >Tolkien in one way or another but they have never been able to surpass him. > They never even come close and they never will. > >Ryan wrote: > >>Well Derek is gone, cause a select number of ignorant fuckers on >here >like to bash him. > >I have been gone for a while so this Derek getting his feelings hurt is new >to me. I find it sad that the people who like DT bash the same people in >DT. On the other hand someone should have told Derek that the 'jam is not >a place where you should go if you don't want to get flamed. We are all >picky bastards :)) > >Thorin >
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:15:46 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: If I could listen to one album only before I die....... Message-ID: <35F8C012.49E3634C@home.com>
Neil was feeling morbid earlier, and he wrote:
> Subject: One album only > feeling in a fairly somber mood last night, I decided to watch my > video of "Dead Man Walking" (another of my favourite films, by the > way), and a question popped into my alcohol-softened brain - > assuming you were in a similar situation as Matthew (i.e. about to > be snuffed out by means of a lethal injection) and you were allowed > to listen to just one last album while eating your last meal, which > album would you choose?
That's a toughie.
I think "I&W" would definitely be a big contender, considering that it's probably my favorite CD, and it holds alot of impact for me. Wow....... "Learning to Live" being the last song you hear. Kinda ironic, no?
For some reason, Savatage's "The Wake of Magellan" would kinda work for me also. Seeing as it's a concept album, the fact that it has a definite conclusion seems to make sense to me too (shouldn't the last song you hear have a sense of finality to it?)
Hehehehe. Then again, maybe I'd forget the emotional stuff......... and just go for some Petrucci shreddin' to finish me off! AOI or LTE?!?!
And if I could choose only one SONG, I'd have to go for ACOS. I mean, my God not only do you get 20+ minutes of DT, but that whole meaning of (changing seasons/ passing through the 'seasons' of life) thing would really get me.
My second choice for one Song would be Beethoven's "Moonlight Sonata". I'm not really a big classical fan (I'm just starting to get into it a bit), but this piece has always struck me as amazingly beautiful (in a sad kinda way).
--
- Joe D. jdeangelo@home.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heaven must be more than this / When angels waken with a kiss Sacred hearts won't take the pain / But mine will never be the same He stands before the window / His shadow slowly fading from the wall And from an ivory tower hears her call / "Let the light surround you"
- Dream Theater, from "Surrounded" (lyrics by Kevin Moore) -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:13:26 -0700 (PDT) From: dada@iname.com To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Invitation to join ytseitalia@onelist.com Message-ID: <199809110613.XAA20651@odin.ax.com>
Hello,
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The description of this mailing list is:
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:25:47 +0100 From: Oysterman <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: LotR & Rush Message-ID: <98Sep11.082305gmt+0100.31363@gate.tranemo.se>
Grrrrrrrreeatings, people!
Joe DeAngelo:
> They're going to do all three LotR books into ONE movie?
No they won't. From what I have heard (a swedish TV-program about = films), the trilogy will be recorded as a *trilogy*, i.e. THREE movies, = altogether playing for more than six hours.=20 Thank the holy Lord for that!
I just wonder... how the hell will the producers make a hobbit, and make = it look like one? Put a dwarf on a sumo-diet for a month and make him = drink doctor's green slime to give him those hairy, big feet? I suppose not. They could do anything with computer technology these = days. I don't really like that, it sort of ruins the charm & stuff. I = can't stand the new versions of the Star Wars movies. >-P
Mark Philpot:
> WHAT THE HELL IS "LORD OF THE RINGS?" I've never heard of this before
Hmm... that's kinda strange, actually. I thought *everyone* knew about = it... (note: I'm not trying to flame you! :-) Suppose you read other stuff... well, not even I have read it all... I = began reading it for six or seven years ago, but never completed it. = Nowadays I don't read books. Perhaps a Bukowski now or then... Guess I know of Tolkien and his stuff thanks to my friends, and the fact = that I'm a Dungeons & Dragons player.
Jeff E:
> On this day, September 10, 1996, Test For Echo was released. > Let's hear it for RUSH and hope there is more to come than just the > live set.
Hmm... I don't know, really. I'm a big fan of Rush, but I'm not such a = big fan of TFE. But OK, "Happy Birthday" to one of Rush's weakest = albums. Personally, I like 2112, Moving Pictures, Signals & Power Windows a lot = more. And I think Grace Under Pressure is completely underestimated.
By the way, where I live it's September 11 now... 8:25 AM. You stupid = sonofa... ;-)
//Oysterman "To be a rock, but not to roll..." Waiting for ACOS to come in my snail-mail...
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:29:27 +0100 From: Oysterman <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Saxon whines Message-ID: <98Sep11.082634gmt+0100.31363@gate.tranemo.se>
> Agreed. . .I would also like to get off this list, I just need to know how.
Hmm... WTF!?
You see, when you signed up, you had COMPLETE info on how to get off, just as everyone else. And there is Ytsejam info at MANY places on the web, telling you how to - READ IT!!!
//Oysterman "To be a rock, but not to roll..."
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:37:03 +0100 From: Oysterman <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: One album before death... Message-ID: <98Sep11.083410gmt+0100.31363@gate.tranemo.se>
Hmm... it would either be "Chronicles", you know... the Rush collection, = "Classic Yes" or "Awake". Those albums have it all - "Chronicles" is a = lot longer, though.
If it would go to ONE single song - "Echoes", Pink Floyd. It's so = relaxing - it would give me peace of mind when I die. And it passes 23 = minutes. :-)
Right now I have this stupid Corrs-song in my head (dunno da name)... I = played it over and over all yesterday evening, just to get that fraggin' = bass line with the right feeling. I hate that song by now... >-P
//Oysterman "To be a rock, but not to roll..."
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