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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: cd-r question
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
      2) Re: VOTE NOW !
     by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
      3)
     by Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu>
      4) *as*e and *yranny
     by jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net>
      5) more *yranny krap
     by jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net>
      6) Madam X
     by NikBrooks@aol.com
      7) PiL with Steve Vai
     by NikBrooks@aol.com
      8) DT Brazilian MOR concert review
     by NikBrooks@aol.com
      9) medley
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     10) Phat hicks n' sheot.
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     11) Underground Metal Issue 6 Free!
     by Robert Wainscott <rvwasted@primenet.com>
     12) Re: Phat hicks n' sheot.
     by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
     13) YtseCon '99
     by Ytsefish <ytsefish@frognet.net>
     14) New Billy Sheehan Solo album
     by "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
     15) Vanden Plas
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
     16) Re: Vanden Plas
     by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:59:28 -0300 (EST)
    From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: cd-r question
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980928162751.26078A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Pat Daugherty wrote:

    [CD-R skipping when played with some players]
    > I've read the cd-r faq and was wondering what the opinions are?

            There are many possible causes (or probably, any number of them
    happening together):

            * the medium you choose has low quality;

            * your CD-R drive doesn't recalibrate (automatically) the laser
    beam intensity to the needs of the medium (as you know, the media don't
    have a completely smooth surface and this affects the burning process) --
    the technique of recalibration of the recording laser beam is called
    "Running OPC". If you still don't have a CD-R but are planning on buying
    one, make sure that your drive has Running OPC;

            * the CD player has poor electrical devices/digital sector.

            These are just the most common problems, but there are many
    others. The most probable causes are the first two.

            On a completely different note, another common problem about
    CD-ROM/CD-R drives is the problem of extraction of audio files -- if your
    drive doesn't have high precision, it may miss lots of samples of the song
    (or read them incorrectly). This problem becomes evident when you're
    copying a live show where all the tracks are supposed to be flowing
    continuously into one another. If your drive didn't extract them properly,
    you may be able to listen a very brief click in the boundaries of the
    tracks.

            My drive had this problem until I upgraded its firmware -- if your
    drive doesn't have upgradable memory and you notice these extraction
    problems, then you're stuck. To see if your drive can extract tracks
    faithfully, try to extract the same track more than once and compare the
    files you obtain -- if they differ, then your drive isn't that good to
    copy audio at the speed you tried; try extracting audio at lower speeds.
    If you're already extracting audio at single speed, then your drive isn't
    appropriate for the duty. If, on the other hand, the files are identical,
    this doesn't mean that your drive will always produce 100% ok copies.

            

            Hope this helps, Roger...

    --
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      Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito
      Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!"
       Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html
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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:41:39 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: Yts <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: VOTE NOW ! Message-ID: <361010A3.E60@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>

    > "A Change Of Seasons" is now in the 2nd place for the song of millenium ! > We are about 1200 people. 1200 x 3 points = 3600 points. But "ACOS" has only got > 471 points :-( I mean not even 1000 pionts. > The Nr.1 song by Grath Brooks has 598 pionts so if you don't have vote yet, > please do it now. Give all 3 points for "ACOS". > Go to: http://www.listen.to/best.song and VOTE NOW. It's very easy.

    What if I happen to like the Garth Brooks song better?

    :)

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:42:10 -0400 From: Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <199809282242.SAA04370@elwood.csh.rit.edu>

    What's the best guitar mag out there? I was subscribed to "Guitar", but it, well, sucked. I don't need to know the tabs to the latest KORN hit. Any votes?

    -davek

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:49:37 -0500 (CDT) From: jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: *as*e and *yranny Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980928174024.10157C-100000@darkhorse.triad.net>

    On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Phil Carter wrote: [...snip...] |>i concur. the instrumental parts are listenable, even good. i'm sorry. i have |>taste. i can't get past the lyircs and vocals. | |I could make a cheap shot and say "yeah, poor taste", but instead I'll just |remark again that opinions differ. What burns me about this remark is that |you're assuming that because YOU don't like something, it doesn't have any |merit. Bullshit. It just doesn't have any merit *for you*.

    i did not assume anything. my nipples are mine alone. others may share them, others will disagree. excellent. it makes the world a more interesting place to live (most of the time).

    i did not say *yranny lacked merit. plz reread my comment.

    |>anyone wanna buy/trade my Savatage Dead Winter Dead? |Somebody take him up on the offer. I hate to see *another* good album go |unappreciated.

    yeah, really. plz. someone. anyone.

    -- john jens + jjens@webzone.net + http://www2.webzone.net/~jjens

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:06:24 -0500 (CDT) From: jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: more *yranny krap Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980928175917.10157E-100000@darkhorse.triad.net>

    sorry for the NDTC and not putting these all in one post. hazards of being in ack mode ;)

    On Sun, 27 Sep 1998, Bruce Forst wrote: |>>anyone wanna buy/trade my Savatage Dead Winter Dead? |Trade you my copy of Carved in Stone? call it even? :-)

    yer one sick puppy :)

    |I just wanted to pipe in and say that I'm with the original poster (John J) |and that he's not just some pocket radical that is so far removed from any |"normal" opinion. I personally think that shadow gallery sounds like a heavy

    noooooo! i am the *only* one with said opinion! no one else can share. mine, all mine. or something. heh yeah, we're guerrillas. secret army. coming in the middle of the night throught the thick fog that *as*es like warm butter mixed with a lil cayan pepper for good measure, as you sleep. punk.

    -- john jens + jjens@webzone.net + http://www2.webzone.net/~jjens

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:26:04 EDT From: NikBrooks@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Madam X Message-ID: <db19f8d2.36101b0c@aol.com>

    Rhys wrote again:

    Hiya,

    Interesting discussion about groups using X in their names. I'm sure that Madam(me ?) X preceded all of the aforementioned groups. They probably aren't wothy of discussion or inclusion though because they were crap.

    Trivia huh ;-)

    Cheers,

    Rhys

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    You could be right again Rhys-butt.

    Madam X featured Maxine Petrucci on guitar and Roxy Petrucci (Vixen) on drums but they are no relation to Johnny P (he told me so, see interview with DT in Hard RoxX January 1998!).

    They played on a British Rock Show over here back in May 1985 on Channel 4, called ECT. However, I wouldn't agree they were crap because I was there on the day and they kicked but butt (ha ha racist Welsh joke) and had some real ATTITUDE, but (oops sorry that one was not intentional) please note I didn't mention the sheep ...........

    Maxine Petrucci has joined the new Vixen line-up as bassist. I recently did a mini interview with her which featured in the September issue of Bassist magazine (UK) as part of the girlie bass players feature they were doing.

    Vixen were supposed to be filling the support slot to Deep Purple on their forthcoming tour but they are no longer doing it. Any news anyone?

    N

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:26:01 EDT From: NikBrooks@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: PiL with Steve Vai Message-ID: <f4868e71.36101b09@aol.com>

    Rhys Jenkins wrote:

    Hiya,

    all this rattling on about being complete wrt Steve's work, and you've all missed out his brief excursion with P.I.L. (Public Image Limited - the album that 'This Is Not A Love Song" came off). Sure, his involovement wasn't absolute, but I believe he collaborated song writing with Johnny Lydon and also played on a few tracks. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Cheers,

    Rhys

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    No I believe you are right. I have actually heard it (the vinyl version) and although I'm not too keen on PiL it was pretty good.

    N

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:26:05 EDT From: NikBrooks@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Brazilian MOR concert review Message-ID: <344def70.36101b0d@aol.com>

    Cassiano wrote:

    Hi there...

    Well, as I was too tired to post a review of DT's Monsters of Rock concert yesterday, so I'm doing it (sort of :) now:

    The concert was awesome, they probably chose their all-time heaviest set-list, with almost all the seven-string songs.

    *************************************************************************

    At the risk of sounding 'anorak' did you get a look at which 7-string guitar(s) Johnny P was playing?

    Thanks

    N

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    Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:34:22 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: medley Message-ID: <36102B0E.E87B000@mol.com.mk>

    > From: "Pat Sullivan" <psull@ici.net> > Subject: Re: recording for posterity > > Unification is not going to happen, no matter how many starry-eyed > fortune tellers predict it will. It goes against to much of human > nature. Take us for example - what would the reaction of most > people on this list be if someone predicted that all music fans > would get together and Bush fans would happily listen to DT's > music and vice versa. Hell, a lot of people on this list *don't* want > DT to become successful because they like having them as "their > little secret". I'm not saying that that mentality is necessarily bad, > but it is a serious roadblock to unifying anything.

    Why do you define non-unification as "DT fans will never listen Bush and vice versa"? I thought we talked about this before, we shouldn't expect other people to like and listen the same music as we do! IT just doesn't have any sense! Everyone has right to choose what music he likes. And someone choice does not by any mean define it as GOOD or BAD!

    Again, diversity is nice!

    As for the unification, I'm optimist about it. Why would the world not unify? I don't agree with those above words. Desire for happines is in everyone and I don't believe that some folks JUST LOOOVE to hurt others. So, if we're not doing anythjign for the world, at least let's not make it more difficult.

    Ooops, we might break some of the rules on the jam so.... :)

    > From: Digital Man > Subject: Re: Satriani (self-titled) > > A thousand monkeys in Joe DeAngelo's basement typed: > > > Okay...... so that's officially TWO of us who love it....... and 1398 > > who hate it!? ;-) > > Call it three. I love Satch's self-titled album. Maybe it's because > I'm not a guitar player, but I don't enjoy Satch or Vai or Petrucci or > Van Halen or any of the others for the noodly bits - I enjoy them > because they all really know how to craft a song. And I gotta say > that some of those songs on the Satch album really stick in your head. > Cool #9, If, and You're My World come to mind immediately. > > Everyone else should give this album another listen. There's some > really good stuff on it. > -d > The Digital Man

    Woohoo, we're winning this gem! :) Cool! Way to go, DMan! You forgot the coolest song "Look my way"! :)

    > From: Arash > Subject: VOTE NOW ! > > Hi > "A Change Of Seasons" is now in the 2nd place for the song of millenium ! > We are about 1200 people. 1200 x 3 points = 3600 points. But "ACOS" has only got > 471 points :-( I mean not even 1000 pionts. > The Nr.1 song by Grath Brooks has 598 pionts so if you don't have vote yet, > please do it now. Give all 3 points for "ACOS". > Go to: http://www.listen.to/best.song and VOTE NOW. It's very easy. > > Arash

    Garth Brooks???? You American are crazy! ;) So he REALLY is so huge legend over there? BTW, what's the big deal about this voting? I did my job and voted, all 3 points!

    I didn't pay much attention to the rest of the site, but as far I could understand it was some girl site who decided by herself to do this stuff - voting! If that's it: It IS a cool idea, but what's the end result of it all? Any practical, substantial positive apsect of it?

    > From: "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <cassi.b@uol.com.br> > Subject: DT Brazilian MOR concert review > > ACOS I > ACOS II > Puppies On Acid > Just Let Me Breathe > Under A Glass Moon > Peruvian Skies (w/ Have A Cigar e Enter Sandman) > Pull Me Under > Caught In A Web > Lie > Metropolis Part 1

    Phew, what a setlist, all rocks 'n stones of DT! :)

    > Highlights of the evening: > - People singing all the lyrics, parts and *trying* > to sing the UAGM guitar solo... :)

    I just love this kinda stuff! I was SO excited when I first heard TTT from one of those boots where the audince sings LOUD the whole lyrics. What a rush man! :) I mean, did it ever happened on Rolling Stones concert? ;)

    > On other notes, I also had the pleasure to talk to Mr. Mike Portnoy on > friday (I actually had a drink with him :) and he told me some cool > stuff about his new material and their brazilian concert: > > - LTE 2 will be done in about 10 days (or else it would be a triple CD! > :). They want to remain the same "fresh" and natural sound of the first > record, and there may be another improvised jam in the vein of "Three > Minute Warning" . What's that stuff "triple CD"? ;) Huh, I wish! Gosh can't wait for it! If it'll be done in 10 days, is the release date avalibale???

    Later, CyberDuke

    NP: Suzanne Vega - 99.9 Farenheit degrees

    Yo, this is one AWESOME album! This girl suprised me.

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:53:06 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Phat hicks n' sheot. Message-ID: <01bdeb43$85594c00$380d84d0@korgx3>

    >Garth Brooks???? You American are crazy! ;) So he REALLY is so huge >legend over there?

    Hey, fuck you, pal. Damn international hatred brewing there. :) Actually, Garth was pretty big awhile back. It's funny when you look at the musical trends in the US. Most of the mainstream pop music is listened to by high school/college level kids. Most country is listened to by beer-swilling, bar-hopping, blue collar workers. And I've noticed most of the good ol' rock n' rollers are the technical minded people who hang around the 'net. Pretty weird. I can't say that I've met many country fans on the 'net, save a few bumpkins that figured out the difference between the phone pole and their lynchin' tree. :)

    No offense to any beer-swillin', bar-hopping, lynchin', inbreedin' backhill bumpkins was intended. Hell, I'm with all of ya, just look at my family tree. :)

    And as far as this Song of the Millenium thing goes... I really feel it's bullshit to even attempt something like that when I thought about it. You're asking the people who lived at the last 50 years out of a thousand to vote? What about the other 550 years worth of people? Don't they get a say? Huh? Dickheads. I bet Greensleeves would win if it the voting wasn't so down on dead people. I oughtta get my great grandpappy to sue the bitch running the voting for mortical harrassment or something.

    'Nuff said. (contacting his lawyer) -- KorgX3

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:58:31 -0700 From: Robert Wainscott <rvwasted@primenet.com> To: rvwasted@primenet.com Subject: Underground Metal Issue 6 Free! Message-ID: <361030B7.98047F37@primenet.com>

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:39:34 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Phat hicks n' sheot. Message-ID: <003301bdeb52$66f7bf80$3a1110ac@demccor.clemson.edu>

    >trends in the US. Most of the mainstream pop music is listened to by high >school/college level kids. Most country is listened to by beer-swilling, >bar-hopping, blue collar workers. And I've noticed most of the good ol'

    where do you live? i'm studying in SC and the college students listen to just as much country as their beer-swillin, bar-hoppin dads :) Moo.

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:12:03 From: Ytsefish <ytsefish@frognet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YtseCon '99 Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980928231203.4b371da2@mail.frognet.net>

    ...Is ON!! Well, YtseCon is going to happen (no bullsh*t), but I need just a little help getting it going. So, I've devised a little plan to make it happen. I've also created a mailing list so we don't have to clutter the jam with useless messages. So.. to join the YtseCon '99 mailing list here's what ya need to do.. Send a message to do. Send mail to lists@listservant.com In the body of the message,(don't put any spaces or anything or else this won't work)

    subscribe YtseCon <yourname>

    That's it.. all their is to it. Have fun and pleasant dreams

    -AA (Co-Conspirator)

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:33:58 -0400 From: "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New Billy Sheehan Solo album Message-ID: <000601bdeb59$ff7ada60$5212cd98@rob>

    Hey Jammers, For all you bassists and Billy Sheehan fans, he is writing a solo album to be recorded sometime next year. My source is an phone-in interview on Finger's Metal Shop last night on WBAB. Check out his website for the latest info. http://www.billysheehan.com DTC: This is the same Finger's (with trusty sidekick Gail) mentioned in the liner notes of I&W. I still have yet to meet Mom at the Huntington Taco Bell. You think she still works there?? :) =A0=A0=A0-Rob, bassicrob@geocities.com ICQ# 15762800 bassicrob@new-york.crosswinds.net bassicrob@aol.com DT MP3 Archive, Artwork, LTE Desktop theme, bass solos, and me http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:54:00 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Vanden Plas Message-ID: <361059D8.23A4FB5D@home.com>

    Is there anywhere I can get reasonably priced Vanden Plas CDs? Music Boulevard has "Colour Temple", but it's almost $30!

    Also, which album is best to start with?

    Thanks a million, --

    - Joe D. jdeangelo@home.com Magellan on ICQ (# 1872723)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heaven must be more than this / When angels waken with a kiss Sacred hearts won't take the pain / But mine will never be the same He stands before the window / His shadow slowly fading from the wall And from an ivory tower hears her call / "Let the light surround you"

    - Dream Theater, from "Surrounded" (lyrics by Kevin Moore) -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:01:44 -0700 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Vanden Plas Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980928210119.00b0883c@postoffice.pacbell.net>

    At 09:02 PM 9/28/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Is there anywhere I can get reasonably priced Vanden Plas CDs? Music >Boulevard has "Colour Temple", but it's almost $30!

    Try http://www.pendragonusa.com Dave Mulloy is very reliable.

    >Also, which album is best to start with?

    I recommend "The God Thing".

    Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl _________________________________________ Thoughts - The Spock's Beard Mailing List http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard

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