YTSEJAM Digest 4835
Today's Topics:
1) (no subject)
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
2) Billy Sheehan
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@yahoo.com>
3) rig from heaven
by "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com>
4) Lucifer's Friend
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
5) keyboard prog
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
6) Power of Omens/Symphony X suggestions
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
7) Blow me
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
8) Do we need eMpTyV? tangential DTC
by Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
9) Re: Blow me
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
10) South Carolina no NDTC
by "StickS" <sticks707@mindspring.com>
11) Q2K ramblings
by MentalHunk@aol.com
12) help!
by "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com>
13) Netiquette...
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
14) Q2KMP3s?
by "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com>
15) coupons for CDs-need the Beard
by Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
16) Re: coupons for CDs-need the Beard
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
17) Enchant - Break ?
by "Jonas Opsal" <jonasops@online.no>
18) Conception-Last Sunset
by "BILL HUSTON" <HUSTON@iomega.com>
19) Re: Do we need eMpTyV? tangential DTC
by trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:08:44 -0400
From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <3727DB4C.4EC14616@bigfoot.com>
Kork belched forth:
>And Hear in the Now Frontier wasn't bad. I think they just had shitty
>production/distortions/everything. The songs kicked ass, I just hate
that
>dirty sound through the whole album. If the production had been as
clear
>and pristine as Empire's and Promised Land's, I think it would have
kicked
>ass. Don't knock Promised Land with me around, though. It's my fave
CD of
>theirs. :)
I don't know. I remember for the 'Frontier' tour(can't believe it was
almost two years ago!), the songs pretty much blew in the live
environment, also. It's my opinion that there is one really kickass
song, which is You(listening to it right now - it really is good), and
one or two barely-half decent songs, like Get A Life. The rest are
really disappointing, and all i can say for them is that if I heard them
on the radio, I would be pleasently surprised, because even a shitty QR
song is pretty good. However, I feel that the album is a huge step down.
Promised Land I was maybe a little hard on; I suppose that was a
transition album, and takes a little getting used to. It's my third
favorite - I like it more than Empire and less than Rage or Mindcrime.
Andrew postulated:
>Question: have you gone to their website to listen to clips of their
new
>album? I'm assuming not. Also,the review I heard, and agree with, is
that
>it has some Mindcrime feel to it.
Well, shit, I didn't know there were clips! I will listen to those right
now and get back to ya. Mindcrime feel, hey, that can't hurt.
You know, it IS possible for metal bands to STAY metal bands and still
be really good, and even get better! Two examples: Savatage and
Megadeth. Both of their latest releases are excellent, especially The
Wake Of Magellan, which I feel is Savatage's best work ever. And they
did not at all lessen their metal-ness. As crunchy as ever!
Kez: Thanks, man. Looking forward to sending your shirt out.
-- Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com www.j51.com/~mrasiel Churchill's description of history: "It's just one damn thing after another."------------------------------
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:46:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@yahoo.com> To: DT list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Billy Sheehan Message-ID: <19990429044643.133.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com>
> read this: > "In related news, > bassist BILLY SHEEHAN is currently busy mixing the third NIACIN > album, which features guest appearance by GLENN HUGHES and TOTO's > Steve Lukather on one track, and will start recording his first > solo album in May. Lending a hand will be Paul Gilbert, Tony > MacAlpine, Terry Bozzio, Steve Smith, Derek Sherinian, James > LaBrie, and Eric Martin. Look for a release via Magna Carta > around November/December."
- I have no idea where you found this piece of "information", - but according to Billy Sheehan none of the people mentioned - above have been contacted about working on his solo album.
I read it in that Canadian Radio Show which sends the transcripts of the show around.... So who knows where they got the information...
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:04:25 EDT From: "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: rig from heaven Message-ID: <19990429050426.37715.qmail@hotmail.com>
What do you think? BTW, the one that has been finished for a few weeks now is MIND BLOWING! The lower two octaves make the room breathe!
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
GEEZUSSS!! Thats beautiful!!!
Al is a scary scary man!!
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:24:30 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Lucifer's Friend Message-ID: <3728092D.3B7E8070@isd.net>
T Ismail Reza wrote: >np: Prince of Darkness_______Lucifer's Friends
Where did you find that???? I have the self titled "Lucifer's Friend" on vinyl. I think it was releiced in about 1972. Wild shit! BTW, if this is the same band from Germany, it's Friend, not friends. The origanal album was on the "Billingsgate" (or something like that) label.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:24:13 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: keyboard prog Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F4070@ms.kallback.com>
> so can anybody recommend a good prog or prog metal > band with some great keyboard stuff and point me to an mp3 of theirs? I am > open to anything along the vein of what we listen to here, Rush, DT, ELP, > Yes, SB, any of the magna carta stuff except caliban and tempus, Genesis, > Styx, etc. etc. The info would be great. > 1. Kuprij, Vitalij-High Definition (Artension keyboardist) 2. Kuprij, Vitalij-Extreme Measures (George Bellas-guitar) or any Artension cd. 3. Encores, Legends & Paradox-Magna Carta ELP tribute 4. Johansson, Jens-Heavy Machinery w/Anders Johansson & Allan Holdsworth 5. Johansson, Jens-Fission w/ Anders, Shawn Lane & Mike Stern 6. Royal Hunt 7. Rudess Morgenstein Project 8. Stratovarius 9. Mickey Simmonds-The Shape of the Rain (plays keys for Fish)
I don't know jack about empythrees. ~T ps speaking of Styx, has anyone seen that VW ad with the Mr. Roboto song in it? It's pretty funny.
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:38:13 -0700 From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Power of Omens/Symphony X suggestions Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990429003813.0090fad0@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
Thanks to Rick, Carol, Trevor, and Bill Huston for offering their advice on Power of Omens. Sorry Rick, but you have been outvoted...I think I will give this CD a shot :)
As far as Symphony X goes, these guys are easily my second favorite band, after DT of course. They just absolutely shread, write beautiful and intricate music, and never get tiring. The Divine Wings of Tragedy is their best, followed closely by The Damnation Game. But get both. You will thank us later.
Thanks everyone for the advice again.
Jon
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:47:19 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Blow me Message-ID: <37280E87.289F85E7@isd.net>
Toneadd9@aol.com wrote: > I'm almost done with the speakers! Whew... that was a lot of work! > (and a substantial amount of cash, too) Here's the page with the pics: > http://www.isd.net/astrosch/project.html > What do you think? BTW, the one that has been finished for a few weeks > now is MIND BLOWING! The lower two octaves make the room breathe!
|what is this about? please private mail to avoid clutter on the jam |thanx |t
So that's what clutter is huh? I thought this was a MUSIC related mailing list. Considering I'm placing the plans to build these on my page, I thought some people here might be interested in building some for themselves, or at least seeing how it's done.
Oh, we can talk about CD players, CDR burners and portable playback gear, but bring up the plans to build some incredible low frequency loudspeakers and you spit a gasket. It was one fucking paragraph with a link, I've seen sigs three times longer! Seek help before someone pounds Hamburger Helper up your ass.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:48:28 +0700 From: Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Do we need eMpTyV? tangential DTC Message-ID: <3728713C.8B69A2D4@pacific.net.ph>
Hey all,
Just been cruising on the net. I wound up at UACM. For those who don't know there's a petition to get Headbanger's Ball back on to MTV. The petition tries to make a win-win proposition in which MTV can ride the wave of a renewed/underground interest in metal. The authors say that metal is very much alive and widely enjoyed.
What I'm curious to know is...do all y'all metal fans feel that we even need HB Ball back? Assuming that metal is making a big comeback, do we even care if MTV gets a piece of the pie? Do we care if they survive when metal comes and kicks the Backstreet Boys' asses off the charts?
Personally, I don't give a s&)t. Let MTV rot and die.
Now for the tangential DTC: One nice thing would be that we might get some DT on TV. Sure, that might lead to bigger sales for OFB. That might lead to DT being able to do some nice things like put out DVDs for us, because Elektra would be more interested in such an investment. OFB might make a few extra bucks; I'd be all for that. It's just that my hatred of MTV is so great that I would rather see MTV die than benefit from any groundswell of metal love. I just wish that DT made more money for Elektra so that we could have things like live DT DVD or whatever (I bet MP would dig that.). I guess I can't have my cake and eat it too.
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:51:47 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Blow me Message-ID: <iss.360.372863ef.8c46d.1@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of <37280E87.289F85E7@isd.net> from ytsejam@ax.com:
> |what is this about? please private mail to avoid clutter on the jam > |thanx > |t
> Oh, we can talk about CD players, CDR burners and portable playback gear, > but bring up the plans to build some incredible low frequency loudspeakers > and > you spit a gasket. It was one fucking paragraph with a link, I've seen sigs > three > times longer! Seek help before someone pounds Hamburger Helper up your ass.
I believe he was asking you to email him privately and tell him about what you're doing...
-Brian
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No hope.
No fear.
-Max Cavalera
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:44:45 -0500 From: "StickS" <sticks707@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: South Carolina no NDTC Message-ID: <001701be925f$96ff1340$eaeecdcf@sticks>
NDTC really. Well, I was moving to Idaho, but thanks to Uncle Sam, I am moving to South Carolina. I was somewhat happy, but I had made quite a few contacts in Boise, thanks to http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ataraxia/boise-bands/index.html , Boise's musician Refferal Site. I found one for SC, but it isn't as organized as Boise's. Does anyone know anyone in South Carolina? Private email me. Curtis StickS Toler sticks707@mindspring.com
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:06:54 EDT From: MentalHunk@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Q2K ramblings Message-ID: <e552a102.2459ebae@aol.com>
<< Im not sure what you people are expecting, but I attended the fan club show back in January and the new material is nothing like their last CD. They played five new tracks and I would describe the music to be in the same vein as Operation: Mindcrime and Empire. I've been a fan of Ryche since their early days and believe me, I was not impressed with Hear in the Now Frontier. Give this new CD a chance! >>
I agree ! I heard three of the songs and like them a lot.... Knock it when you've heard it, not before....
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:11 -0800 From: "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: help! Message-ID: <199904291712.KAA14280@knight.axnet.net>
Sorry about the NDTC, but if anyone out there knows something about the "Monkey B virus" or an auto-open macro virus, could you please e-mail me and tell me how to get rid of it? My eternal thanks... -Rahul Ananda-
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:54:45 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Netiquette... Message-ID: <v04020a00b34e4bd6d283@[194.8.196.34]>
Hi!
>what is this about? please private mail to avoid clutter on the jam
And I think quoting the whole thing for nothing is an even bigger waste of time, really...
People don't get smarter. Quote-everything-say-nothing. I'm using BBS's and the Net for about 10 years now, and nothing has changed since then... sigh...
Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@westend.com)
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:28:27 EDT From: "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Q2KMP3s? Message-ID: <19990429182828.18728.qmail@hotmail.com>
the new material is nothing like their last CD. They played five new tracks and I would describe the music to be in the same vein as Operation: Mindcrime and Empire. I've been a fan of Ryche since their early days and believe me, I was not impressed with Hear in the Now Frontier. Give this new CD a chance!
Pete Davis
Oh believe me i will...because I enjoyed every change they went through from the 1st to Promised Land but I will do so only through MP3s and CDnow before i make another mistake like Hear in the Now
At that same time i was broke and could have gotten LATM but I didnt because I had just purchased ACoS I was very upset to "Hear ITNF" that crap and soon after i heard they split up
Reunions of the Year-Black Sabbath w/Ozz & Iron Maiden w/3 guitarists!!
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:37:53 +0700 From: Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: coupons for CDs-need the Beard Message-ID: <3728B511.92A03B22@pacific.net.ph>
Hey, all,
Okay...I know this has been posted at least 2 times before, but what's te URL to the place that has the coupons for on-line music buying? Got to invest in Spock's Beard. I'm addicted to my short mp3 samples.
Oh...and can I get full songs on mp3 somewhere?
-Rob
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:56:07 -0700 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: coupons for CDs-need the Beard Message-ID: <3728AB47.AA03AB2E@pacbell.net>
Robert Jurado wrote: > > Hey, all, > > Okay...I know this has been posted at least 2 times before, but > what's te URL to the place that has the coupons for on-line > music buying? Got to invest in Spock's Beard. I'm addicted > to my short mp3 samples.
http://www.esmarts.com/music/music_coupons.html
But it looks like it hasn't been updated in a while.
> Oh...and can I get full songs on mp3 somewhere?
I hope not, since Neal asked me specifically to cut mine up... if there are full mp3s out there, I'm sure he doesn't know about it.
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:07:01 +0200 From: "Jonas Opsal" <jonasops@online.no> To: "The YtseJam mailinglist" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Enchant - Break ? Message-ID: <000101be927b$d8a55860$6ee54382@default>
I have heard Surrounded of off "Break", and I was wondering how the rest = of the songs on the album are compared to that song. Is Surrounded very = soft compared to the rest or can I expect more music like that if I buy = the album? Also, what's everyone opinion on this album and/or the group? =
Thanx for any help and advice(s).
Jonas Opsal - jonasops@online.no Surfing Into Infinity - http://dreamtheater.tsx.org NP: Explorers Club - Age of Impact and Shadow Gallery - Tyranny =20
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:31:19 -0600 From: "BILL HUSTON" <HUSTON@iomega.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Conception-Last Sunset Message-ID: <s7286d51.052@royn20.iomega.com>
A few jams ago someone mentioned they had just gotten the above CD to = round out their collection. For me, that is the only one I don't have and = as yet have not been able to get a review of this CD. I've been considering= getting it but would like to know how it rates against the others. So, = I'm asking you to email me with your opinion/review of this so I can make = a decision. Actually, considering the quality of the rest of their catalog, I don't = see how this could suck. BTW, for you Norwegian jammers, any word on what = Tore 0stby is doing now? Like, maybe starting another band (I hope)... I = miss these guys...
Wilmo
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:08:30 -0700 (PDT) From: trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Do we need eMpTyV? tangential DTC Message-ID: <19990429200830.8739.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com>
--- Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph> wrote: > > Hey all, > > Just been cruising on the net. I wound up at UACM. > For those > who don't know there's a petition to get > Headbanger's Ball back > on to MTV. The petition tries to make a win-win > proposition in > which MTV can ride the wave of a renewed/underground > interest > in metal. The authors say that metal is very much > alive and > widely enjoyed. > > What I'm curious to know is...do all y'all metal > fans feel that we > even need HB Ball back? Assuming that metal is > making a big > comeback, do we even care if MTV gets a piece of the > pie? > Do we care if they survive when metal comes and > kicks the > Backstreet Boys' asses off the charts? > > Personally, I don't give a s&)t. Let MTV rot and > die.
I always find it weird when people say "I wish MTV wouldn't play so much 'NSync, they should play [insert band name here]. They never play [insert band name here] EVER!" These same people always are usually the first to remark on how great it is to be fan of such a little known band. It seems as if these people (not a few of which are on this list) want to have their favorite bands recieve massive amounts of MTV and radio coverage but still retain their cultish following. It can't go both ways people. === = *Trent
"I see a girl in the night with a baby in her hand. Under an old street light; near a garbage can. Now she's put the kid away, she's gone to get a hit. She hates her life and what she's done with it. That's one more kid that'll never go to school, never get to fall in love, never get to be cool." * Neil Young, a man amongst men _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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