YTSEJAM Digest 4789
Today's Topics:
1) April Fools???
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
2) Unreleased songs
by "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net>
3) Kitaro
by Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com>
4) Re: Unreleased songs
by "A Change Of Seasons" <dreamtheater@cjnetworks.com>
5) Queensryche??
by CptFufu@aol.com
6) Re: Band Lists - I guess it's my turn
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
7) Erotomania
by HeiNouSX@aol.com
8) Terry
by "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com>
9) NTDC - Progressive Rock
by Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br>
10) New live DT mp3s available...
by Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com>
11) Re: Unreleased songs
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
12) Re: Yes? No. (Wee bit o' DTC)
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4788
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
14) Disc-at-once CDR problems
by Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
15) Sean Malone & Gordian Knot
by "Robert O'Doherty" <rodoherty@seagull.nl>
16) Re: Sean Malone & Gordian Knot
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
17) Two Ton Shoe
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
18) OIALT
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
19) Rotterdan Show
by AlexandroTalamini <Alexandro@Boticario.com.br>
20) Re: OIALT
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:31:38 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: YtseLand <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: April Fools???
Message-ID: <370A8B4A.2841ACA0@mol.com.mk>
Bogie, I think a puppet of you should be hanged on a tree and burned for
coming up with that Met. 2 lie! :)
I can understand a April Fools joking but this is some dangerous stuff
man.
-- CyberDuke*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Chuck! Chuck! This is your cousin ... your cousin, Marvin Berry! Remember the new sound you were looking for? Well listen to THIS!" - Back To The Future I *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:19:29 -0500 From: "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Unreleased songs Message-ID: <002301be808c$77521f40$995099d1@default>
I got my copy of I&W's yesterday and was saddened by the statement by MP that "Cover My Eyes, Where Are You Now,Raise The Knife,Speak To Me, & The Way It Used To Be" will not be released now with the new era of Jordan. I personally would like to see these songs released. Is anyone interested in getting a petition going to see if the band would put these songs on an EP and make them available to the fan club?
Mike Homewks@Sound.Net
Mike and Susan Verstraete www.sound.net/~homewks
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 21:04:03 -0400 From: Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Kitaro Message-ID: <370AAEFD.25666587@mindspring.com>
BRAD;
Hey bro, i personally think TUNHUANG and KI are his best cd's. Very spiritual and spacey, but melodious and life-affirming as well. Peace
SM
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:32:37 -0500 From: "A Change Of Seasons" <dreamtheater@cjnetworks.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Unreleased songs Message-ID: <000a01be8096$860b74a0$b147f0c7@o5h0w2>
Mike....
A couple of things that I think I should point out....
Cover My Eyes and Speak To Me were done just that way. Thru the fan club via the 98 Xmas Fan Club CD. Speak To Me also appeared as a bonus with FII first editions in Japan. Raise The Knife you have on the Lido Beach Party only it's under the title of "Showdown". The Way It Used To Be is on the Hollow Years Cd single. The only one that is not readily available is Where Are You Now? and I have that one in mp3 format.
Portnoy probably won't go for it. But you never know, because he did say something about doing just that.... Releasing old stuff and rare tracks thru the fan club. I'm betting it's for a fee though.
What do you think?
Mike =o) -----Original Message----- ]From: Mike & Susan Verstraete <homewks@sound.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 7:39 PM Subject: Unreleased songs
> >I got my copy of I&W's yesterday and was saddened by the statement by MP >that "Cover My Eyes, Where Are You Now,Raise The Knife,Speak To Me, & The >Way It Used To Be" will not be released now with the new era of Jordan. I >personally would like to see these songs released. Is anyone interested in >getting a petition going to see if the band would put these songs on an EP >and make them available to the fan club? > >Mike >Homewks@Sound.Net > >Mike and Susan Verstraete >www.sound.net/~homewks > >
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:21:57 EDT From: CptFufu@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Queensryche?? Message-ID: <4af22445.243c0d35@aol.com>
I've heard a lot about Queensryche, and specifically Operation: Mindcrime, on this site as well as other places. I'm thinking about buying this album and I'm just wondering what they are like a bit more: comparisons, influences, heavier, softer, etc. Thanks
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:30:49 -0700 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Band Lists - I guess it's my turn Message-ID: <370AB549.E6A74F4@ucla.edu>
Ok, I got lost in the serious part after Ray Alder. Anyway, how about the New Jim Rose Circus for entertaining freakazoids?
Back to lurking, ~~Amandsa
> Vocals: Ray Alder > Guitar 1: George Lynch > Guitar 2: Neal Schon > Bass Guitar: Larry Johnson from Brothers Johnson > Drums: Dave Weckl > Keys/Synths: Kitaro, the MAN > Rapping: Ice-T > Sax: Everett Harp > Stage Dancer: Michael Jackson circa 1984 > Acrobatic Stunts of Amazement: Lui Chia Hui > Harmonica: NOt the guy from Blues Traveller > Security: Gary Coleman & Danny Bonaduce >
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:03:31 EDT From: HeiNouSX@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Erotomania Message-ID: <b16a1f66.243c16f3@aol.com>
What does Erotomania mean? And how does everyone pronounce it?
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:29 -0800 From: "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Terry Message-ID: <199904070219.TAA06996@knight.axnet.net>
I would say that Terry Bozzio is one of the sickest drummers, ever. Better than Portnoy? Definitely. Take a listen to his work with Zappa, specifically "The Black Page" for a taste of his genius. And to those who don't know, that piece is titled in that manner because, after Zappa had the score printed, there were so many notes that there was more black than white on the paper. He tends to rip off some Tony Williams licks in the solo (specifically that cool swiss-triplet bass drum stuff that he played in Miles Davis' band), but otherwise it is an absolute polyrhythmic phenomenon. The thing with Terry is that he does so many little ghost note type things that, in a band context, he doesn't really stand out. Hence people's misconception of Terry's true abilities. I would recommend getting any of his "Soloing Over Ostinatos" videos. Watching one of these (especially if you're a drummer) is positively disheartening. The guy has taken limb independence to an entirely untouched plateau. I don't think I've heard anyone (with the possible exception of Dennis Chambers) with his level of expertise. Mike Portnoy is a child compared to this, AND the best thing about the videos is that they're very listenable. Even my non-musician friends keep asking to borrow my videos. Terry doesn't lose you with a non-stop barrage of notes. He constructs his solos carefully and sounds like a one man symphony orchestra. Yeah, he's fast, but that's not the real focus of his style, like it seems to be with Mike's. Bozzio is more into polyrhythmic grooviness. So yeah...to whomever it was that wanted a starting point, get the videos or the album "Drawing the Circle" from www.audiophileimports.com DO NOT GET ANYTHING BY MISSING PERSONS. That stuff is not representative of him at all. It's more pop vocal oriented with no fancy-pants musicianship. -Rahul Ananda-
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:35:34 -0300 From: Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: NTDC - Progressive Rock Message-ID: <370AC476.2363EFE0@conex.com.br>
Hi jammers, I downloaded some MP3s and would like some info about these bands (what album to start, discography, etc)
- Arti + Mestieri - Grobschnitt - Enseble Nimbus
Also, what are the best Rick Wakeman's solo albums (excluding "Journey to the Center of The Earth" and "The Myhts and Legends of ..") ???
PS: Is "Return to the Center of The Earth" good?
Also, take a look at my progressive metal/rock page at http://fast.to/frmp
-- []s Fernando Rauber ICQ: 2281311 http://fast.to/frmp
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:23:50 -0400 From: Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: New live DT mp3s available... Message-ID: <4.2.0.32.19990407001330.00a95670@pop.mindspring.com>
Hey folks...
Put up a couple of new mp3s on my site.
The first fills a request a few 'Jams ago for a live You Not Me. This one is from 1/2/98 Hartford, CT. This is the second to last show of the first American/Euro leg of the FII tour. Pretty good sound quality, nothing special.
The second is a rare, guitar based instrumental called Slow Motion. It was apparently played only four times in this arrangement, tho' snippets might be familiar to you. This version is from the first gig of the second American leg of the Images and Words tour, and is the first show Slow Motion was played. Most folks won't have heard this, so give it a listen. Sound quality is also good, but nothing remarkable. Long Island, 1/2/93.
URL is in my .sig. Hope everyone enjoys...
-Please Notice New Email Address!- __________________________________________________ Adam Pye (Alpine) alpine1(-at-)mindspring.com ICQ: 9382967 http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1 ^^ Above URL for MP3 of the Week and Tapelist w/ Setlists __________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:14:44 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Unreleased songs Message-ID: <002f01be80b5$8edaea60$700d84d0@default>
>that "Cover My Eyes, Where Are You Now,Raise The Knife,Speak To Me, & The >Way It Used To Be" will not be released now with the new era of Jordan. I
Maybe if we ask Mike politely he might get us Mp3's of the demos to these uploaded to UACM or something. I know we've already got STM and TWIUTB and a nice live version of CME, but we've still had didley as far as decent sounding issues of RTK and WAYN. Both are songs I'm really interested in hearing in >good< quality. I'm willing to bet that they've recorded decent if not good demos of both songs. I'd be perfectly happy with that. -- KorgX3 says, "Let's ask Mikey, Mikey will eat anything."
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:16:45 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Yes? No. (Wee bit o' DTC) Message-ID: <370AEA3C.FCACEB15@isd.net>
Trent C. Thornton wrote:
>--- Korg Ecksthrey <korgx3@safelink.net> wrote: > BTW, the new DTIFC mag is great. It answers the > question about Derek's > departure. Very much appreciated info. :) > -- > KorgX3 is a camera.
|Since I probably couldn't find that mag, could you |post that info to the 'jam? Thanks! |= |*Trent is a camcorder.
Trent is obviously NOT a fan club member.
The "Mag" that Korg is referring to is the DTIFC (Dream Theater International Fan Club) magazine titled "Images & Words." This publication is mailed to fan club members only.
If you are interested in joining, go to the UACM fanclub section @ http://www.dreamtheater.net/fanclubs.htm#iaw
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:22:17 +0100 From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4788 Message-ID: <48eeede651gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
> From: "Simon Long Krogh" <finn2@get2net.dk> > Subject: Piano in Surrounded
> Could anyone please help me with learning to play Surrounded? The part > where the right hand goes B-A-B..B-A-B..B-A-B-D-C...etc. what does the > left hand play?
As someone else already pointed out, that's actually Wait For Sleep. The left hand:
E-D-B-E E-D-B-E E-D-B-E E-E C-G-A C-G-E
and I can't remember the other bit.
> From: "Trent C. Thornton" <cybertrent@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Yes? No. (Wee bit o' DTC) > > > BTW, the new DTIFC mag is great. > > Since I probably couldn't find that mag, could you post that info to the > 'jam? Thanks!
You probably almost definitely could find that mag, if you joined the fan club. It's cheap, and it's well worth it.
-- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:32:29 +1000 From: Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au> Subject: Disc-at-once CDR problems Message-ID: <370B181D.4B3D44E@winshop.com.au>
Hello,
Just wondering if anyone can give me some help in regards to some problems I'm having with my CD burner.
I'm trying to record .WAV files from my HD on to CD. This hasn't yet proved a problem with using the Close-Session/Track-at-Once option, the audio tracks play fine on any CD player (though it does leave annoying two second gaps). To counteract the gaps, I tried using the Disc-at-Once option, but the audio plays back with a shocking, squawbled effect making it unlistenable. The individual tracks are recognisable, but the actual audio is stuffed.
I am at a total loss as to why the Disc-at-Once option is corrupting the audio, even at 1x and 2x write speeds. FYI, I'm using a Acer (AOpen) 6x2x2 CDRW.
Any help wold be muchly appreciated. Please reply privately at slslb@winshop.com.au
Luke.
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:02:19 +0100 From: "Robert O'Doherty" <rodoherty@seagull.nl> To: "Ytsejam (E-mail)" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Sean Malone & Gordian Knot Message-ID: <000301be80dd$b9dc41a0$520778c1@rob.seagull.nl>
I thought Sean Malone was the brains and bass behind Gordian Knot. I just visited Gordianknot.net and didn't see any sign of him.
Rob.
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:30:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org> To: "Robert O'Doherty" <rodoherty@seagull.nl> Subject: Re: Sean Malone & Gordian Knot Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9904070729460.12551-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> I thought Sean Malone was the brains and bass behind Gordian Knot. I just > visited Gordianknot.net and didn't see any sign of him.
He is. Go to his record label: http://www.lasercd.com
- mike.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:42:38 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: YtseLand <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Two Ton Shoe Message-ID: <370B288E.3082BB98@mol.com.mk>
Whoever posted that URL for Two Ton Shoe mp3 page - THANX! :) Wow, this is some cool stuff. Yeah, very funky, very groovy music. The bassist is also awesome! All of them actually. ID3 tag says "Booty Bass" is the genre! He-he, cool title! Quite appropiate.
Go check 'em out. -- CyberDuke
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Chuck! Chuck! This is your cousin ... your cousin, Marvin Berry! Remember the new sound you were looking for? Well listen to THIS!" - Back To The Future I *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:56:56 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: YtseLand <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: OIALT Message-ID: <370B6428.D4DE514B@mol.com.mk>
I didn't see it mentioned, but having all kind of freaks on the jam, I'm sure I'm not the only one who noticed it ! :) On LtL, DT play the main theme of "Wait For Sleep" for a moment!
Is this the whole list of songs DT covered on OIALT? Cupid's Dead, Enter Sandman, Freebird, Have a Cigar, Moby Dick
I think someone said Derek plays part of Plat Opus (sp?) from Platypus (which I don't have yet)! True? Which part is it? -- CyberDuke
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Chuck! Chuck! This is your cousin ... your cousin, Marvin Berry! Remember the new sound you were looking for? Well listen to THIS!" - Back To The Future I *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:22:47 -0300 From: AlexandroTalamini <Alexandro@Boticario.com.br> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Rotterdan Show Message-ID: <CB9A835262C6D1118B3B00805FEA2A710162AF1A@CORREIO>
Hi all,
Just wanted to know if anyone had the opportunity to compare the sound quality of 2 boots from the fan club show in Rotterdan - Holland, that are circulating: NIGHTTOWN NOSTALGIA and STAINED GLASS.
Cheers,
Alex Curitiba, Brazil
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:35:38 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: OIALT Message-ID: <370B6D3A.28C489A3@caribe.net>
CyberDuke wrote:
> I didn't see it mentioned, but having all kind of freaks on the jam, I'm > sure I'm not the only one who noticed it ! :) > On LtL, DT play the main theme of "Wait For Sleep" for a moment!
Uh..havent you noticed that ever since listening to it on images and words?
> Is this the whole list of songs DT covered on OIALT? > Cupid's Dead,
I thought someone mentioned the end of metropolis wasnt that, but just a part they cut from TWIUTB...
> > > I think someone said Derek plays part of Plat Opus (sp?) from Platypus > (which I don't have yet)! True? Which part is it? > --
That would be the "keyboard solo" track... the piano intro he does before going into distortion for the intro to Lits...
-- Carlos A. Alfaro SysAdmin.: Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:prog@yunque.net / mailto:calfaro@caribe.net (ICQ)1254229
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