YTSEJAM Digest 4814
Today's Topics:
1) yes/BG
by Pat and Becky Daugherty <patnbeck@abs.net>
2) Re: MS Audio 4.0, and my 1st DT experience
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
3) Re: 1st DT Experience
by ANGELO LOMBARDI <angelo13@home.com>
4) Re: Knock knock puddin' head
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
5) re:[NDTC]frank zappa
by cmartin@blueridge.net (Chris & Shelly Martin)
6) re: 1st DT Experience
by cmartin@blueridge.net (Chris & Shelly Martin)
7) Re: DT Experience
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
8) RE:FIRST DT EXPERIENCE
by "Christopher Lancaster" <cal@netease.net>
9) Webster
by "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com>
10) Josh Christian - Toxik
by "Marcel Coenen" <mcoenen@cobweb.nl>
11) Tribal Tech & E3
by "Mats Rydstrom" <mats.rydstrom@telia.com>
12) Re: 1st DT Experience
by Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
13) Re: Upstairs at Nick's??
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
14) Re: Death
by "Sasha C." <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
15) Ice Age, One, and DEREK TOUR DATE!
by James Lutz <ytsejim@optonline.net>
16) Ass puddin' & laxatives
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:08:44 -0400
From: Pat and Becky Daugherty <patnbeck@abs.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: yes/BG
Message-ID: <37194CBC.C796B990@abs.net>
]From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
> From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
> > I think it can be agreed upon
> > that the '69 camaro was (and is) FAR superior to the '80s models... (sorry
> > for the bad analogy)
>
> Using camaro and superior in the same sentance is about as much a
> mistake as alternative music. Long Live the Mustang! :)
Damn straight! Long live the 1990 model...(well since I have one).
I'm sure some others (madden) will agree on mustangs... and Kitt was a
wuss...
Well concerning Blind Guradian, I've downloaded a few mp3s and well
Tokyo Tales is not a great album. The other mp3s are pretty good though,
just the live album isnt... I think they need more investigation...
-- |--------------------------------------------------| | Pat and Becky Daugherty-patnbeck@abs.net | | http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/ | |--------------------------------------------------|------------------------------
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:17:17 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: MS Audio 4.0, and my 1st DT experience Message-ID: <004501be8949$f7e12d20$480d84d0@default>
>Is this format going to be really popular? I mean, will I be able to >trade audio files, or will I be the only one who uses this format?
I think it all will depend upon what kind of compression program they use. It it takes 15 minutes to rip one song to their format, I think most people will say fuggit. With audiocatalyst I can rip a 60 minute CD in about 8 minutes. Disk space isn't quite the complaint anymore as it used to be. But if it can be streamed over a standard modem line without significant losses (due to the small size of the file) then they'd have a leg up on MP3.
Besides, I hope it doesn't catch on or else the last month I spent ripping my whole CD collection (burned onto 30 CD-r's!) will have seemed like a waste of time. Hey, shut up! It really wasn't! :) -- KorgX3 just has nothing better to do.
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:18:09 -0400 From: ANGELO LOMBARDI <angelo13@home.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: 1st DT Experience Message-ID: <37194EF1.53161F2D@home.com>
> "but i was > wondering, because not too much good DTC has been on the jam in a > while: > where did each of you first hear of Dream Theater and when?"
Well my first Dream Theater experience was back in '92 on MTV (believe it or not - regular MTV). I saw the "Pull Me Under" video. At first, I didn't pay attention to the song, then one day I just listened... WOW! I bought "Images & Words" and fell in love with a new band. "I&W" was the ONLY tape (CD player broken at the time) that I listened to all throughout the winter of '92 - '93.
For my wife, Tara, she saw them in some SMALL "club" here in Philadelphia area sometime between '86 - '89. She was too stoned to remember where or when, but she remembers liking them. She HAD demos. Yes HAD, her ex-boyfriend has them now (asshole).
Angelo http://members.home.net/angelo13/
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:14:07 -0500 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Knock knock puddin' head Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990418061407.006f1344@pi-r-squared.com>
At 12:11 AM 4/17/99 -0700, you wrote: >
>Bruce Forst wrote: >|you dont like PUFF DADDY? >|you dont like VANILLA ICE? >|you dont like WAYNE NEWTON? >|you dont like BRITTNEY SPEARS? >
>How the fuck did you come up with this? >The artists *choke* you mention above completely lack any >of the traits we have been arguing about. > >I respect your right not to like APSoG, But your comparison is >way out in left field. It's about musical integrity, something Fates >can never be accused of lacking. Even if YOU don't like it. > >Do you honestly think that Fates had some hit-song-writing-guru >throw something together while the band was being trained on the >finer points of eye batting and ass wiggling, as your comparison >would suggest?
Okay hang on here... now whether I agree with Bruce or not, you're missing the point of his argument. He was doing what is basically an "argument of the absurd" where you juxtapose someone's ideas or statements with something of absurd nature. The juxtaposition is used to create shock value which hammers home your point. Sometimes it takes a little bit of thought (imagine that) to comprehend. Did you even read the rest of his message, btw? He was not comparing FW to these bands, but was simply talking about the statement that they take more time and patience to get into. Think before you flame.
PS not that it matters but I agree with the original post anyway. It does take a few times listening to get into APSOG
Palpatine Co Founder of Pi-R-Squared productions: www.pi-r-squared.com "Thank God I'm an aetheist" -Luis Bunel "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope "Perhaps god gave the answers to those with nothing to say"- Savatage: Somewhere in time
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 02:26:42 -0500 From: cmartin@blueridge.net (Chris & Shelly Martin) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: re:[NDTC]frank zappa Message-ID: <v01530503b33f316cc1a2@[205.152.120.189]>
>>Una question, por favor... >>Can someone point me to a >studio< album discography of Frank >>Zappa's works. I seem to only find total discographies with >>all the live and greatest hits crap and I think he must have >>more of those than studio albums. :P I just need to know >>where to get started. I have Strictly Commercial (I know it's >>a greatest hits, hehehe) and I like >every< song on it. >>>Alot<. :) Thanks!
I guess I'll come out of lurk mode for this one, 'cos I love to turn people on to great CD's of Frank Zappa!! : ) Well, as was pointed out already, cdnow.com has many of his CD's. And, IMHO, just to get a good mix of all the stlyes of music FZ did, I would suggeste getting Hot Rats, The Grand Wazoo, Apostrophe, The Yellow Shark, 200 Motels, and Joe's Garage. Also, Chunga's Revenge, Guitar, and Freak Out! are awesome albums too!!! Really, you can't go wrong with any FZ, even if it is Best of stuff!! Talk to everyone later!!!!
np:Widowmaker- Blood and Bullets: "Evil"
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 02:26:46 -0500 From: cmartin@blueridge.net (Chris & Shelly Martin) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: re: 1st DT Experience Message-ID: <v01530504b33f32d215cd@[205.152.120.189]>
OK, I'll bite. Two posts in one jam, man I hope this doesn't become a habit for me!! lol!!! : ) My first DT experience came around the time when WDADU came out (summer of 89?) I was getting ready for Marching Band in high school during the last two weeks of summer vacation. I played sax. This guy (a drummer) was telling me about this tape he had just bought and said it was the most incredible thing he'd heard since Rush (which was saying quite a lot for him because I'd notr known anyone that was as diehard a fan as Rush at the time.) So, we got into my car, and sat and listened to the whole tape in the sweltering heat (old car, no air!!) I was so astounded!!! I couldn't believe the music I was hearing!! Needless to say, right after band practice, I went and bought the tape, and have been a fan ever since!! Talk to everyone later!! : )
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:44:34 -0500 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: DT Experience Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990418064434.00703df4@pi-r-squared.com>
>I know this has been asked a few times on the jam a while back, but i was >wondering, because not too much good DTC has been on the jam in a while: >where did each of you first hear of Dream Theater and when? I think itd be >cool to see the different answers. FYI: I first heard of them on the radio >in New York in 1990 and started reading about them in guitar mags soon after. > Just post ur responses on the Jam and id be cool to see where everyone comes >from with this subject.
Back in middle school when I was first gettin into rock & metal, we had this radio station called Z-Rock (which was nationwide so a lot of you others probly had it as well). WEll I was just beginning the transition from the hair bands (I had Warrant and Poison tapes I believe) into the heavier stuff (old Metallica, Maiden). Well... every morning when I'd get up to wait for the bus (my mom would wake me up at 6:30 when she left to teach highschool (she didn't trust me with an alarm) and my bus came at like 8) I'd just sit in my bed and listen to Z-Rock. Well, there was thing song which kept playing every morning. At the time I was really interested in bands with vocalists who (in my own words) "actually sang". The song was "Hold me Under" and I assumed the band was Queensryche. Then I found out it was some band called Dream Theater. I went out and bought the tape (didn't have a cd player) as soon as I could, only to find out the song was actually "Pull me Under" ;) Anyway, I listened to Another Day and Surrounded, and as I was in my "everything has to be heavy" stage I filed it away (I had already heard TTT and UAGM anyway, also on Z-Rock). A few years later (when I was more interested in talent than "heaviness" blame band) I pulled the tape out again, and started listening to Pull me Under again, but it wasn't till I was roleplayin with some friends and my GM was using some DT in the bg (Awake) that I really got interested. I think I had settled on them as a band I liked at the time, and I remember commenting to him bout it. I went home and pulled out my I&W tape, and listened to the whole thing. As soon as I finished listening to Metropolis Part I, I was blown away. Sorry that whole thing was so long winded. I couldn't figure out which one was my first "true" DT experience.
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:46:35 -0700 From: "Christopher Lancaster" <cal@netease.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: RE:FIRST DT EXPERIENCE Message-ID: <001101be8977$f8215480$6d5c18d0@oemcomputer>
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 05:15:03 EDT From: "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Webster Message-ID: <19990418091504.93779.qmail@hotmail.com>
Below is one of the coolest statements ive seen on the jam
opin*ion (noun)
1 a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter 2 a : belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge
fact (noun)
5 : a piece of information presented as having objective reality
Remember the distinction when referring to music.
NP: Athena - A New Religion?
Kevin
OUTSTANDING!! Is this Kevin Moore?? JK ;> heres a few more
opinionated (adj.)= obstinate in ones opinion
and just in case ya dont know
obstinate (adj.)= stubbornly persistent
well said Kevin! Outlander has spoken
"Won't let them fill me with nothing less than rubber nads!!"-John Petrucci-Scarred
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:18:32 +0200 From: "Marcel Coenen" <mcoenen@cobweb.nl> To: "ytsejam Mailinglist" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Josh Christian - Toxik Message-ID: <01be8995$931c7240$170cced4@default>
Hello people,
I wonder if anyone here knows if Josh Christian still makes music somewhere, he was the guitarist for Toxik, another great progressive speedmetal band in the late 80's begin 90's.
Please let me know ...
Greetz,
Marcel
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:55:29 +0200 From: "Mats Rydstrom" <mats.rydstrom@telia.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Tribal Tech & E3 Message-ID: <000f01be899a$be389260$87e0143e@lordrosse>
Whoa, just saw Tribal Tech live here yesterday. A total masturbationfest, these guys are on a totally different level than most wank-fusion... their "songs" are nothing to write home about though, and I do like the style better on the Wooten/Henderson/Smith record or Jonas Hellborg/Shawn Lane/Jeff Sipe, but holy shit, their drummer, Kurt ??? just KILLS! Incredible, blew Weckl, and others that can't keep a straight beat convincingly, out of the water. Who has he played with previously, I understand he wasn't in Tribal Tech until a couple of albums ago?
I'm thinking about going overseas to LA for the E3 show in May (comp games, multimedia etc). Anyone else going? Any cool gigs to catch around LA btw the 10th and 18th of May? Anyone feeling inclined, drop me a mail privately.
Mats/LordRosse - mats.rydstrom@telia.com - lordrosse@yahoo.com
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:24:31 -0400 From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: 1st DT Experience Message-ID: <3719DD0F.69C06FF3@frontierlogic.com>
> Anyway my friend had the 7-string Ibanez and showed me Metropolis > while jamming along...and there was no turning back. > -------
I might be smoking bad as crack, but I don't think a 7-string was used on Metropolis PI.
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:57:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org> To: CptFufu@aol.com Subject: Re: Upstairs at Nick's?? Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9904180953360.11480-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> Hey I was just wondering if anyone in the Philadelphia area knows about > Upstairs at Nick's. Spock's Beard is playing there may 17 and I was just > wondering what it was like and maybe an address and phone number. thanks It's on 2nd and Market Street in downtown Philly. The place is a very weird one to see a show. It's only recently become a "progressive" hangout of sorts (I've seen one too many punk shows there) with shows like Finneus Gauge and Bon Lonzaga. Downstairs is, oddly enough, Nick's Restaurant (great roast beef sandwiches) hence the name "Upstairs At Nick's" which is upstairs.
- mike.
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:57:37 +0200 From: "Sasha C." <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr> To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Death Message-ID: <001f01be89ab$e54a0940$3fe51dc3@sasa>
err, sorry guys... I just realized that with my first post (yesterday) i made my first mistake. I sent that message in HTML... it won`t happen again, I swear. I realized it just know when i read Ytsejam digest 4812. Now, back to Death...
]From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@CLEMSON.EDU> >nothing wrong with calling it progressive. in fact, that's what i say when >peopel ask me to describe Death - Progressive Death Metal. Lots of odd time >signatures, tempo changes, meter changes, interesting riffs (i.e. not just >power chords). in fact that's someting i discovered lately - i sat down and >tried to learn some songs off of Sound of Perseverance and i was amazed at >the riffs - i would never think of stuff like that. Maybe it's simple to >someone who knows more theory than i but to me it seems totally strange. >hehe. Besides, chuck schuldiner and, well, all of their drummers, kick major >ass :) so yeah, i would say pick up Sound of Perseverance, followed by >Human. If i remember correctly, Sean Reinert played drums on Human... after >that, get Symbolic, which has Gene Hoglan on drums. moo.
Well, Chuck himself said that he doesn`t like it when people descibe Death`s music as just "death metal". Considering how many other bands (with so much different sound) have that genre labeled to their name it is perfectly okay to call it "progressive death metal": I just didn`t want to get trashed and flamed by naming it like that in my first post :-)). Probably, there are many people out there who have other opinions about this... Yea, as a fellow guitarist here :-)) i also tried playing stuff off of their (his?) last album... well, i have enough trouble with playing all the rhythm parts. It`s very demanding, complex... And about all the crew who worked with Chuck - he always had a different team playing on his albums but he always had top musicians. There are no words to describe the virtuosity of other band members on "The sound of perseverance" - you just have to listen to it. The production is perfect (recorded at Morrisound Studios as every other album i believe)... bass lines are so complex so the sound of the instrument itself is very "dry", very hearable if you prefer... and if you have in mind that all that complex music, as well as lyrics were written by Chuck himself... you have to be blown away by it... IMO.
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:33:25 -0400 From: James Lutz <ytsejim@optonline.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Ice Age, One, and DEREK TOUR DATE! Message-ID: <3719FB45.2EDEC335@optonline.net>
Saw the Ice Age show in NY yesterday at the VooDoo Lounge. The band was phenomenal! I had seen this band at the last powermad but did not remember what they had sounded like. It's kind of hard to remember all 20 or so bands in 3 days. They had a good sound, but the guitars were a little low in the mix, but that is not out of the ordinary for the voodoo lounge. Definately gonna pick up their new album on Magna Carta on June 1st. They are definatley influenced by Dream Theater. So any DT fans should check them out!
At the show, I was handed a tape of a band called 'One'. I'm listening to the tape as we speak, and I do have to say, I am VERY impressed! I hear lots of Queensryche in their music with a little Dream Theater thrown in.
I'm gonna ask both bands if i can put up an MP3 of their songs up on my server so you guys can check em out.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST! As i was walking into the club, I saw a strange sign posted on the wall. Get this :
April 29th at the Voodoo Lounge Gilby Clarke (Ex-Guns n' Roses) Eric Singer (Ex-Kiss) Derek Sherinian (Ex-Dream Theater)
Sounds like a pretty ass kickin' night, On my birthday no less :) Check out the bands! and if someone else saw the show cough*perk*cough Please post a review! Because my reviews suck :) take care ~YtseJim
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:05:47 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Ass puddin' & laxatives Message-ID: <371A02DB.55D12345@isd.net>
I really shouldn't do this... But I going to anyway.
Bruce, first off, let me quote myself. >I respect your right not to like APSoG, But your comparison is >way out in left field.
Why do you have a problem with this?
Bruce wrote: >ok, quick question : What do YOU mean by "musical integrity"?
What *I* mean is: A person or band that puts the music first. Record sales and fame are NOT the first concern of the artist. *I* would say that APSoG falls into this category.
C'mon, look at who you selected as comparative figures:
Bruce Forst wrote: >|you dont like PUFF DADDY? >|you dont like VANILLA ICE? >|you dont like WAYNE NEWTON? >|you dont like BRITTNEY SPEARS?
Al wrote: >>Do you honestly think that Fates had some hit-song-writing-guru >>throw something together while the band was being trained on the >>finer points of eye batting and ass wiggling, as your comparison >>would suggest?
Bruce wrote: >not at all.... you're pulling that one out of your own puddin' ass. I was >just saying that just because I dont like something doesnt mean I dont
Am I pulling that one out of my ass? Lets examine a few things...
Britney Spears: Much of the credit is due to writer/producer Max Martin, whose work with the Backstreet Boys put the "golly" in Svengali. Many others are remakes.
Wayne Newton is either doing remakes of other peoples material or remaking the hits of his own career. It appears the most or all of the lyrics were written by other people. NONE of the music was written by him.
Face it, Newton and spears are stars because of their physical appearance. If they looked like Bill Gates and Janet Reno, I don't think you would see life-size cardboard figures taking up space in some retail store.
As far as VANILLA ICE goes.. He has 3 albums, one is a greatest hits with only two albums proceeding it! talk about milking the market. It would also appear the he wrote very little of the lyrics and none of the music. At best he's a cheap Weird Al.
As far a Puff Daddy goes.... I can't say much other than what *I* have heard required very little thought lyrically or musically.
So is it safe to say that the "hit-song-writing-guru" and "eye batting and ass wiggling" statements are to some degree valid? Am I still "pulling that one out of my ass?"
Bruce wrote: >comprehend it. What my comparison was trying to suggest is that according to >the "enlightened jammer" if you dont like Brittney Spears it might be >because you haven't taken the time to fully comprehend the intraciasies and >emotional impact that she conveys through her music, and the way she wiggles >her ass. She has a very intricate way of wiggling her ass that I just dont >think you've spent enough time watching. You've totally dismissed her art
That paragraph could have been replaced with: "poo on you." I give it the same value.
Bruce wrote: >MY POINT ::sigh:: was.. that certain types of arguements like the one used >by "the enlightened jammer" can be used to defend even no-talent hacks like >the ones I mentioned. That the arguement travels little distance towards >proving any kind of worth.
Really? Can they be backed with facts? I'm sure some little kid out there thinks that M&M's grow on trees, and he'll defend that belief even after a tour of the Mars (TM) manufacturing facility. Think about that for a minute...
Bruce wrote: >For example; people say in defending other types of music:
>RAP - "you just cant feel the groove" or " you dont know what its like in >the hood!" >COUNTRY - " you just dont get the subtlety of quiet, beautiful music" >REGGAE - "You just aren't high enough, MON!" (I'm exaggerating here.... )
This is an entirely different topic, let's stay on track. The country and Reggae references serve no purpose for this argument. (Unless Wayne is jumping on another bandwagon)
Al wrote: >your comparison is way out in left field.
I stand by that statement, you're comparing apples with prunes. Say I didn't like the Lexus LS-400, would it really be fair to lump it into the same group as the Yugo?
My point? I don't like Garth Brooks, that doesn't mean I don't respect his talent. I would NEVER compare Garth with the artists you did, It's not fair to him or his fans.
It's obvious that Jim Matheos and Fates Warning put a tremendous amount of effort into APSoG. The little Nuances of the studio recording were not just thrown in because they sounded cool. I'm just a little tweaked that you refuse to acknowledge that FACT, whether you like it or not.
I don't think ANYONE claimed YOU didn't comprehend APSoG, so was it really necessary to slam the band/song the way you did with your cheap comparisons?
Don't bother replying unless you can provide me with some plausible explanation as to why Fates Warning belongs lumped in with the artists you used as a standard of comparison.
Are we done now?
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four Americans is suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best friends. If they're okay, then it's you. --Rita Mae Brown
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