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YTSEJAM Digest 4827
Today's Topics:
1) And now, the case for the prosecution.
by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
2) RE:depressing Music
by Diablo6491@aol.com
3) Re: Depressing Music
by Diablo6491@aol.com
4) DC Cooper's solo album
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
5) Re: depressing cute metal vocals
by "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com>
6) VAST
by "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com>
7) Rhapsody info
by alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
8) Alice In Chains-Layne
by JKorby1973@aol.com
9) Mp3's on my site and stuff....
by "-=Dennis Leeflang=-" <dl@xs4all.nl>
10) Depressing songs...
by "Calle Rydberg" <calle_rydberg@hotmail.com>
11) Magna Carta Pink Floyd Tribute - The Moon Revisited
by "Sasha C." <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
12) Re: LTE2 cover
by Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com>
13) Tony Macalpine
by "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar>
14) Gig from hell.
by "Rob Reid" <booreid@hotmail.com>
15) Re: Depressing songs...
by JamesAhab@aol.com
16) re: The Gig From Hell (NDTC)
by cmartin@blueridge.net (Chris & Shelly Martin)
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:57:03 GMT
From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
To: "Caught In a Jam" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: And now, the case for the prosecution.
Message-ID: <4AA15B62DB@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>
> SJ Dodd bled:
Well, it's that time of the month, I guess.
> > Cute is never beautiful.
> Huh?
Actually, that's wrong; cute is RARELY beautifull. Btriney Spears is
CUTE - she's on the TV in a schoolgirl's getup, and catches you're
interest for a moment. Beauty is when you can't take your eyes off
them while you're awake, and you see their face every time you close
your eyes. The two terms are ALMOST self-cancelling, although not
ALWAYS - Alison Hannigan from Buffy, for example.
> Do yourself a favor and get some AIC. Their vocals kick lots of ass.
No thanks. And no, the vocals don't kick ARSE by the sound of it
(although they may well kick donkeys, I wouldn't know). Not unless
they sound COMPLETELY different to the ABiTWpt2 vocals. Maybe he
could try singing without drinking a few pints of vodka first.
> > > Np: Extreme - III sides to every story
> > Oh dear.
> Let me guess, you've never heard this either? Try listening to music
> before you rip it. Awesome guitars on this album. And when they're not
> knee-deep in cheese the vocals aren't bad either. The final part, the 20
> minute song with Michael Kamen is amazing. There are some shitty songs on
> this album, but it's still well worth a listen.
Well, I'll let you guess, 'cos you're wrong. III Sides is the only
Extreme album I've heard. It's lame. Not only that, you claim that
Aerosmith are "easily the most commercial band of the decade" - well,
I'd say they run a close second to this shambles of a band. This is
about as close to the ideal "Radio friendly rock unit shifter" I've
ever heard. I'll grant you though, Nuno Bettencourt is a quite good
guitarist; but even there, "Schizophonic" was better than this. I
will rip anything that deserves it, thanks.
> > But then again, Pagey (Jimmy Page) on a bad day
> kicked
> > Hendrix's good-day arse ANYDAY!
>
> And there he goes...an entire foot in his mouth!
> <Cue audience applause>
Hmm...That's a well-reasoned critique of my statement that Hendrix -
whilst inarguably the most influential "rock" guitarist ever - is
equally inarguably the most overrated. My congratulations to you on
displaying to us the full gamut of your cognative functions.
> > Oh dear. I don't know any of AIC's stuff,...
> > NOT EVER PLAYING: Alice In Chains.
>
> And yes folks! There it goes! Two entire feet in the
> mouth at the same time! A new Guiness World Record!
Uh-huh. Well, I guess I'll have to follow this guy, who sets a new
world record for incomprehension not once but TWICE in one post.
Maybe it's just me, but if the vocals are lame, I can't enjoy a band
- probably why WDADU just isn't my thing. Thus, I'd say it was
entirely reasonable that given Lame n' Stale's abominable vocal
efforts ruining one of my favourite songs that I wouldn't like to
hear an entire album full of the useless little cunt.
> >Oh dear. I don't know any of AIC's stuff, but I heard Mr Lame n'
> >Stale's attempts at "singing" on "Another Brick In The Wall pt2" from
> >the Faculty soundtrack.
> listen to a bit more before you criticize. Staley is one of my favorite
I criticised his efforts on ABITWpt2, not AIC stuff, since I've not
heard AIC. Neither do I intend do.
Si
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:08:35 EDT
From: Diablo6491@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: RE:depressing Music
Message-ID: <130354b1.24535493@aol.com>
>About depressing songs:
>Get some Savatage.
Grin, I have everything by Savatage already:> I love them and they
impress me everytime I listen to them:> They do everything I like, ballads,
heavy rockers, depressing songs, they kick ass. Great vocals and great
emotion...
RaY
-Shotgun Innoncence!-
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:12:43 EDT
From: Diablo6491@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Depressing Music
Message-ID: <7a14a032.2453558b@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/23/99 4:48:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com
writes:
<< I highly recommend either of the three albums by
Stabbing Westward, especially the 2nd one, Wither Blister Burn + Peel,
which makes me want to rip my heart out. >>
Grin, got all three of their albums too;> SW is probably one of the
most depressing bands lyricaly that I know. Their concert was awesome too:>
I refused, REFUSED to stick around to see Placebo, I hate them:>
RaY
-Hate for hatreds sake...-
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:42:30 -0700
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: DC Cooper's solo album
Message-ID: <37228116.247D@fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi everyone
Just got the new DC Cooper (Royal Hunt) solo album. It's fantastic.=20
I'm sure most of you will love it.
The Musicians :
DC Cooper - Vocals (Royal Hunt)
Alfred Kooffler - Guitars (Pink Cream 69)
Tore Ostby - Guitars (Conception)
Dennis Ward - Bass (Pink Cream 69)
Kosta Zafiriou - Drums (Pink Cream 69)
G=FCnter Werno - Keyboards (Vanden Plas)
DC's voice is unbeliveble. The songs are more guitar oriented than Royal =
Hunt.
The album has great melodic songs. The song "The Union" is a masterpice w=
ith=20
progressive elements. "Unitl The End" is such a beautifull ballade.
Overall a must have, not only for Royal Hunt & Pink Cream 69.
DC Cooper's album is released by Inside Out Music in Europe.
Get it now.=20
NP : DC Cooper - DC Cooper
Arash
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:08:19 PDT
From: "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Cc: Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: depressing cute metal vocals
Message-ID: <19990424180824.32409.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:02:03 -0500
>From: "Joe Bissonnette" <Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu>
>To: ytsejam@axnet.net
>Subject: depressing cute metal vocals
>
>
>> > Np: Extreme - III sides to every story
How dare you!!!! Extreme's vocals are perfect, I've never heard
anything like that in any other band, and the most important
thing, they could do them live.
>> Oh dear.
>Let me guess, you've never heard this either? Try listening to music
>before you rip it. Awesome guitars on this album. And when they're
>not knee-deep in cheese the vocals aren't bad either. The final
>part, the 20 minute song with Michael Kamen is amazing. There are
>some shitty songs on this album, but it's still well worth a listen.
Well said, but I would like to add a couple of things.
1)The orchestra arrangements were made by Nuno and Mike Moran (not
Michael Kamen).
2)There are NO shitty songs in that album. That's one of the best
albums in rock & roll history, if you don't think so go ask the guys
from DT.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:45:27 -0500
From: "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: VAST
Message-ID: <199904242004.NAA22157@knight.axnet.net>
I was reading in one of my guitar magazines about a band called VAST or
Video Audio Sensory Theater. I have seen this band mentioned here a few
times very recently and was wondering if anyone could tell me more about
them. In the article I read it said that the guitar player is the
mastermind of the band and also was a kid prodigy and had albums put out on
Shrapnel records in the 80's
ThankX
Thorin
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:29:42 -0300
From: alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Rhapsody info
Message-ID: <01be8e88$cd89a900$360c6120@alexis1>
To the person who asked about Rhapsody, they are an amazing Italian band.
Their style is like power metal mixed with prog elements and with orchestral
arrangements and choirs. They are very classically influenced, although in
a different way from, say, Yngwie Malmsteen. Rhapsody's sound is very
medieval, and with fantasy lyrics about dragons and stuff. All of the
musicians are very good, and the lead singer is great as well. If you've
heard Symphony X and Angra, then picture Rhapsody as a mix between those two
plus more. Both of their albums are very good, so get whichever one you
want (some people prefer "Symphony of Enchanted Lands" over "Legendary
Tales", but they're both great). Right now I'm listening to Nightwish on
Real Audio, and I would say they sound similar to Rhapsody, although I think
Rhapsody has more prog elements in their songs, and the classical interludes
in Rhapsody's songs are just killer. Hope that helps.
Alexis
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:26:19 EDT
From: JKorby1973@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Alice In Chains-Layne
Message-ID: <4e25f2bd.245390fb@aol.com>
In a message dated 99-04-24 06:11:39 EDT, you write:
<< "Haji's Kitchen is not the only band ripping off their stuff these
days. I can't
believe AIC broke up <sob>. They're the best band to come out of
Seattle
since QR."
>>
Alice In Chains hasn't broken up. They're STILL waiting for Layne Staley to
get his shit together and ditch the heroine. I'm not sure if it's been
released yet, but AIC has put together a box set w/ a couple new songs they
just recorded with Layne on vocals. No plans for a new album quite yet. I
heard Layne is still in such bad shape, some of his teeth have fallen out! A
local DJ here in Minn. said if you listen closely to his vocals on the
"Another Brick.." remake, you can tell he's missing his teeth. Now I haven't
heard the song since he said that, so I don't know if you can actually hear
that, but also wouldn't he get some fake teeth to wear to prevent "lisping"?
Who knows. Can anyone confirm that?
-JK
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:23:17 +0200
From: "-=Dennis Leeflang=-" <dl@xs4all.nl>
To: "YTSEJAM MAILINGLIST" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Mp3's on my site and stuff....
Message-ID: <002201be8ea1$0df213c0$62976dc2@xs4all.nl>
Heya gang,
Long time no post.
I just wanted to let y'all know I just made my own site with some cool mp3's
on there. It stinks as far as the lay-out goes but hey, I didn't even know
what HTML was a month ago. There are links to various DT sites and DT mp3
sites. Maybe there's one or two you didn't know already :P Any comment or
recommendation is welcome.
Tomorrow I'm going to the Aardschokdag in Den Bosch. Grip Inc. are playing.
Can't wait. For Marcel (Coenen): Call me on my mobile so we can meet there
(06-50806462). It'll be fun!
See ya laters,
Dennis "Stickmaster D." Leeflang
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I want to exceed them."
~ Bruce Dickinson - Iron Maiden
february 1999
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:39:12 PDT
From: "Calle Rydberg" <calle_rydberg@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Depressing songs...
Message-ID: <19990424223913.91281.qmail@hotmail.com>
Here=B4s my list of songs i listen to when I=B4m depressed.
Dream Theater - "Hollow Years"
Dream Theater - "Take away my pain"
Dream Theater - "Space Dye Vest"
Rush - "Tears"
Rush - "Fountain of lamneth"
Led Zeppelin - "Stairway to heaven"
Led Zeppelin - "The song remains the same"
"Immortality" (I don=B4t know which band)
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:04:28 +0200
From: "Sasha C." <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Magna Carta Pink Floyd Tribute - The Moon Revisited
Message-ID: <00e401be8ea6$e4acd580$57e51dc3@sasa>
hi guys...
anyone have any info on this cd? i didn`t knew the thing existed... i found
it on some trader`s list? is it worth getting?
one more thing, anyone bought Rick Wakeman`s "the return to the centre of
earth"? maybe it would be cool to hear some opinions about it...
NP - Cynic - "Focus"
"Some will transcend spinning years
One as if time disappears..."
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:21:34 -0400
From: Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: LTE2 cover
Message-ID: <4.2.0.32.19990424191808.009633a0@pluto.he.net>
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>>A scan of the LTE2 cover seems to have appeared at:
>>
>> http://www.mediusvision.com/lte/index.html
To which Vince LuPone wrote:
>Wow, Petrucci is a hippie and Portnoy is Tom Cruise. Cool :)
I dunno... some of the studio pictures of Mike really scared me! Portnoy's
face looks like DEREK! Imagine if Derek grew his hair out a bit, and drew
on all of Mike's tattoos. That's the new Portnoy look!
We now know what REALLY happened to Derek. He killed Mike, and took over
his life (a la "Single White Female"). Now Derek's doing the drumming;
that's why they needed a new keyboardist! Petrucci, watch out, he'll be
coming for you too!! :)
Ryan
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>>A scan of the LTE2 cover seems to have appeared at: <br>
>> <br>
>>
<a href="http://www.mediusvision.com/lte/index.html" eudora="autourl"><font color="#0000FF"><u>http://www.mediusvision.com/lte/index.html>
<br>
</a></font></u>To which Vince LuPone wrote:<br>
>Wow, Petrucci is a hippie and Portnoy is Tom Cruise. Cool :)<br>
<br>
I dunno... some of the studio pictures of Mike really scared me!
Portnoy's face looks like DEREK! Imagine if Derek grew his hair out
a bit, and drew on all of Mike's tattoos. That's the new Portnoy
look!<br>
<br>
We now know what REALLY happened to Derek. He killed Mike, and took
over his life (a la "Single White Female"). Now Derek's
doing the drumming; that's why they needed a new keyboardist!
Petrucci, watch out, he'll be coming for you too!! :)<br>
<br>
Ryan</html>
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:01:39 -0300
From: "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar>
To: "ytsejam mail list" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Tony Macalpine
Message-ID: <000301be8eb0$ab0878c0$334c2bc8@matiasfr>
Hi!!
i have Tony Macalpine's Evolution.
What i should buy next ??
thanxxx!
bye.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:41:24 PDT
From: "Rob Reid" <booreid@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Gig from hell.
Message-ID: <19990425024124.17385.qmail@hotmail.com>
How are you, this is my first post to the list.
Let me tell you about my Gig from hell. I was a guitarist in this
band.
8 A. M. - Bus breaks down
9:30 - Get everything loaded into a U-Haul
10 - Get started on the drive ( 6 Hours)
11:30 - Van pulling U-Haul goes down a hill too fast, spins the van
around a couple of times and hits the ditch.
12 P.M. - Get van out of ditch and keep on going.
2 - Pulled over by the police, searches everything.
3 - Keep on going. The other guitar player in the band tells the
singer that he should learn to sing better. (We're not even there
yet)
6 - Arrive at the gig, have to wait until the stripper finishes her
show.
6:02 - Bass player realizes that he has left all his cords at home.
6:03 - Other guitar player tells bass player that he should learn
to play the bass better.
7:00 - Bouncer introduces our soundman. Calls him "Bleeding Ears."
Not a good sign.
8:30 - Set-up complete. Can't hear myself. No-one can hear anybody
else. Nothing coming through the monitors. Can't figure it out.
Damaged in the crash? Soundman finally turns the volume up on the
board. Looks at me with a stupid grin on his face.
10 - Gig starts. Everything is going all right.
1:30 A.M.- During a set break, the soundman duct tapes my guitar cord
to the lights. I don't notice until I try to sing some background
vocals. I can't reach my mike. Later, I ask him why he did that. He
says : "It looked like it was getting in your way."
2 - Last set, girl does a handstand in front of the band. Skirt goes
up over her head. The singer walks over to me and (while holding his
mike away from his face) asks me if I checked out her ass.
Unfortunately he was right by MY mike, the whole thing goes out over
the P.A. Between songs, her boyfriend tells me he'll see me later.
But,luckily, he gets into a fight during our last song and is thrown
out. I slip the bouncer $20 later.
3- The gig is over, retreat to the shitty band room and watch T.V.
Burt Reynolds in Stroker Ace.
- Rob Reid
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:02:35 EDT
From: JamesAhab@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Depressing songs...
Message-ID: <f2df65b6.2453dfcb@aol.com>
>< Here's my list of songs i listen to when I'm depressed.
"Immortality" (I don't know which band) ><
Pearl Jam. great song.
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:28:03 -0500
From: cmartin@blueridge.net (Chris & Shelly Martin)
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: re: The Gig From Hell (NDTC)
Message-ID: <v01530502b3483a1dd4a0@[205.152.121.184]>
>Well, I think a lot of the musicians on the list can relate, and I'm in a
>particularly pissed-off mood, so I think I'll vent for a while. I just
>got back from what may be the worst possible gig.
Hehe!! Kind of ironic that ya brought this up tonight!! Just got back from
the place where I played one of the worst gigs of my life (back in 93), if
not the worst!! First, the gig was on a Wednesday night!! What a shitty
night for a new, up and coming band top play, but it was one of the more
prestigious clubs to play in the area, so we took it. That night, it was
pooring rain. Now, we had publicized the hell out of this gig. We did 2
radio interviews for the college radio station, did an ad in the paper, and
put up flyers all over the place. Well, we had a huge turn out, which
surprised us!! : ) We thought, "Oh yeah! Tonight's our night!!" NOT!!
During the soundcheck, things were dragging a bit, but that was typical.
Usually if our soundcheck sucked the show was usually great. We had been
working with this female singer to do some background vocals on a couple of
songs. Her and our lead singer had "supposedly" been working it out and
sounding great. We only did one practice with the combo, though, which was
a HUGE mistake!! : ( She was SO bad!! Plus, he kept messing around with the
songs and causing her to mess up (he was a bit of a flake anyway), and then
shit got REAL bad!! : ( Our drummer couldn't decide what tempo to play, the
keyboards were WAY too loud, and my amp had continuous feedback!! : (
Needless to say, I really wanted that night over, as did the rest of the
crowd!! : ( After the show, I tried to explain to the owner that it was
just a bad night, that we were usually pretty good, but he wouldn't hear
it. From then on, we were blacklisted from that club!! That was my gig from
hell!! Talk to everyone later!! : )
np: Thunder- The Best of Thunder: "Pilot of My Dreams"
Later,
Chris Martin
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