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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Gig from hell.
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
      2) A new Thread
     by "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com>
      3) opinion
     by "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com>
      4) Re: Gig from hell.
     by "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
      5) I Wanted The Best, I Got The Best...
     by Jose Enrique Ralat Ballester <jralat@coqui.net>
      6) Howard Stern and Zappa
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
      7) blah
     by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
      8) gig from hell
     by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
      9) Rhapsody, Wakeman's latest
     by "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
     10) Added 2 MP3's to the JOHN PETRUCCI Page
     by "David Van Glabeke" <hawkey@skynet.be>
     11) Re: Depressing music
     by Tom Johnson <signals2000@home.com>
     12) SB-NDTC
     by Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
     13) Peruvian Skies Bass Tab
     by YtseSryche@aol.com
     14) Re: The Gig From Hell
     by Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
     15) Kevin Moore's chromakey at BORDERS!!!
     by bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst)
     16) EVENT - prog in the WAAF battle of the bands
     by MFishook@aol.com
     17) DC Cooper Out
     by "Christopher J. Cerminara" <savaytse66@psu.edu>

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    Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:46:25 -0600
    From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
    To: "Korgie's Angels" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Gig from hell.
    Message-ID: <004601be8ed6$a2fd3000$530d84d0@default>

    Heh. The worst gig I ever had was at the profound meetingplace of
    partygoers in the area called "The Tree." Albeit there is no tree at the
    damn place so I have no idea why it's called such.

    Anyway, we were the second band to play. We were told that everything was
    to be provided: lights, mixing board, generator, beer, etc. so we made the
    mistake (it was our first gig) of saying "ah, OK, we get to pack light for
    this trip." We get there. There's one small, cramped trailerbed for a
    stage and the first band is already up and playing. Some band called
    Blender playing porn music. Not bad for this area (in other words, they
    sucked). We look around. Yay, no lights, no mixing board, no soundperson,
    and a generator that I'd heard was almost out of gas and took 20 minutes to
    start. Hell, at least there was beer! Blender, incidentally was booed off
    of the stage, beaten, and gangraped by a strange mob of people in Slayer
    T-shirts.

    So, the Sun had set and there was absolutely no light for us to heave
    Blender's shit from the stage and set up our own. It was taking too long
    and the crowd was growing restless. Matt had to wheel his dad's van around
    and shine the headlights on the stage so we could see. Some helpful people
    held their lighters up for us. Didn't help much. The Slayer mob was
    lurking in the shadows of the stage, fangs dripping poison and all that.
    I'm getting drunk and stoned and whatever else I can. Come to find the damn
    bass amp I'd rented didn't even work so I had to plug into a piece of shit
    little Rock Town amp. Just as the Slayer mob was writhing its way up onto
    the stage, Jeremiah was able to get the opening strains of Threat of Death
    out and introduced us (Wasted Angel) to the disgruntled crowd. We tried as
    best we could to get through our setlist. Threat of Death, I Feel, The Door
    That Sets them Free (the ballad did NOT go over well), Alone... All this
    time we couldn't hear what we were playing. I swear the rattling generator
    was louder than we were. I'm standing under the bass drum playing through
    this Gorilla Amp copy hoping that it's even on cuz I can't hear shit.

    Then during Symphony of Destruction Jeremiah starts harping on how the hell
    he got stuck in such a shitty band over the mic and that we suck and shit.
    Matt barely missed lobotomizing him with a drumstick at that point. We
    finished our gig with Setting Sun, our only good song that rocked the house
    and redeemed our shitty performance. Appeased, the Slayer mob grunted and
    only made off with Jeremiah, who was aptly out of the band anyway, so none
    of us gave a damn and Beau hoped he got knocked up. I could care less, I
    was fuckin' baked. Stumbling around that night I lost my keys in the field
    somewhere. My car was locked so I was stranded in buttville and had to
    break into my house for the spare. By the time we got back, the cops had
    busted the place. I snuck in to my car, got drug searched (thankfully, I
    was a bit sobered up by that time and there was no anal probing), got
    questioned about my foot long survival knife and baseball bat, and almost
    got mobbed by a 300 pound sweaty crack whore.

    All in all, I look back on the night with a smirk for some reason, even
    though it was one of the most demoralizing, shittiest nights of my life.
    And I just thought I'd share it with you all. :)

    --
    KorgX3 teaches his furby, "Doo-doo," how to sing Lines in the Sand.
    

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:08:02 EDT From: "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: A new Thread Message-ID: <19990425050803.96149.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Gig from hell huh??

    thats easy... our band opened up for "Nitro" ya know Jim Gilette and Micheal Angelo?

    there was supposed to be a very large turnout for this so our band went into multiple extended practice sessions where we defined every aspect of every part and went to the show feeling unstoppable.

    When we got there for soundcheck we had to have a crew move some of Nitros gear and his patented 4-neck X-wing guitar was stacshed behind an amp.

    During our first song everything was perfect and just as we slipped into our niche some mexican dude grabbed Mikes axe and ran...the bar went berserk trying to stop the guy and most went outside to see what was going on once they had him cornered.

    And due to our short set and the clamor over the incident they completely missed one of the best performances the band had ever given.

    I was basically pissed and was pleasently surprised by the fact that once the owner and i started fighting over our pay here come the bouncers all pumped up from the guitar snatching thing. Voices were raised and things elevated until two of them grabbed me and shoved me out the door where both of my palms met gravel and concrete.

    I couldnt play for 2 weeks....which caused us to miss three more gigs

    Overall it cost me 500......I know "lifes not fair" and "everybody has it hard" but to go through all of this while suffering the normal musician trouble ....not eating.....not sleeping and no money for anything unless its more gear for the me or the band.....FUCKKKKK!!!!!

    That was my gig from hell(El Paso TX)

    Outlander falls silent

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:16:55 EDT From: "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: opinion Message-ID: <19990425051656.66295.qmail@hotmail.com>

    That's one of the best albums in rock & roll history, if you don't think so go ask the guys from DT.

    Outlander butts in---Why? all they would do at that point is give you their opinion......which is what this whole thing has been about OPINION

    do you think that liking a band means liking their influences too?.... all of them??

    Not so....in my OPINION most of DTs references I love but I fuckin hate Elton John....why??? CAUSE ITS MY FUCKIN OPINION

    (not really-- i like Elton John)But I'll bet people where reading that all set to tell me how Elton John is a prolific songwriter and I just dont understand.

    Point made? I doubt it

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:35:46 -0400 From: "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Gig from hell. Message-ID: <000d01be8edd$78442100$32aa889e@guest3382>

    > Then during Symphony of Destruction Jeremiah starts harping on how the hell > he got stuck in such a shitty band over the mic and that we suck and shit.

    Funny, something very similar to this happened to me once.

    A few of my friends and I got this funk band together to play for an event in my town. Three of the guys in the group (drummer, bassist, guitarist) were in a prog band playing a set after us. The show went badly (mainly because the drummer decided he was better than the rest of us and improved the whole thing). After our set was over, the drummer walked out into the crowd and said: "Now you get to hear a REAL band play".

    Needless to say, I now associate with other drummers.

    Regards, Josh Calkin: URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu ICQ: 22473371 AOL IM: Mortua ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Korg Ecksthrey <korgx3@safelink.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 1999 12:56 AM Subject: Re: Gig from hell.

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    Date: 25 Apr 99 02:28:05 -0400 From: Jose Enrique Ralat Ballester <jralat@coqui.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: I Wanted The Best, I Got The Best... Message-ID: <199904250148.BAA29333@piro.coqui.net>

    Hey jammers,

    Last wednesday one of lifelong dreams came true, Kiss finally played in Puerto Rico!!! It was the most amazing show I've seen. There was blood, fire, explotions, fireworks, Gene Simmons flying, Paul Stanley singing all the way from the other end of the stadium, guitars flying drum kit rising, and of course a 3-D show!!! Now the only thing I need to see before I die is Dream Theater playing in Puerto Rico... it could happen :-)

    Jose Puerto Rico

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    Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:27:45 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: YtseLand <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Howard Stern and Zappa Message-ID: <3721F101.F08B3A41@mol.com.mk>

    Geez, was that "WNBC pronunciation" part from the movie true? ;)) LOL

    As for Parmet comment on Zappa, yeah, those compositions on that URL are great. There are Zappa compositions for orchestra. Anyone who hears them can't deny the genioustiy of this man! He does that kind of music 'n tricks also in his regular rock/jazz/prog songs, it's very original. As Korg claimed, Peaches en Regalia is a very clear example of this. This song performed live blows you away with it's rockin' sound! Live you get the whole potnetial of the song! Me now addicted to Zappa mp3s, plewase gimme somore more if it if anyone finds anything on the net. So far I found a bunch of broken links or they just don't work! :( -- CyberDuke

    "Now that I know that I'm breaking to pieces I'll Pull out my heart and I'll feed it to anyone Crying for sympathy crocodile cry for the love of the crowd and the three cheers from everyone ..."

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:59:49 PDT From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: blah Message-ID: <19990425075949.32312.qmail@hotmail.com>

    "what a wonderful grammatical error you've discovered" - han solo i dunno.. i know he says something like that in the garbage shoot.. :)

    inferno _________ inferno was under the impression that korg was the grammer police and wonders why he's not doing his job

    >APSoG is supposedly depressive, remember?

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:37:02 PDT From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: gig from hell Message-ID: <19990425083702.29551.qmail@hotmail.com>

    yeah this was pretty bad but mines is seemingly worse (at least from this vantage point).. this happened yesterday btw... playing for guitar for my dad's band

    6:00 P.M. - set up equipment 7:00 P.M. - band plays first set 9:00 P.M. - break, run down to McDonnalds (i was starving) 9:30 P.M. - band starts second set 9:52 P.M. - return from micky d's (the drive through line was HUGE!) 11:30 P.M. - get kicked out of band perminantly 11:35 P.M. - eat the driest big mac this world has ever seen.. i mean, this burger wasn't just bad it was fucking gross 12:00 P.M. - listen to meshuggah all the way home

    i guess it was my fault, but that still doesn't make it suck any less it was a real cool gig.. might have been worth it if the food was good :)

    inferno NP: meshuggah - destroy, erase, improve

    >How are you, this is my first post to the list. >Let me tell you about my Gig from hell. I was a guitarist in this >band > > 8 A. M. - Bus breaks down > 9:30 - Get everything loaded into a U-Haul > 10 - Get started on the drive ( 6 Hours) > 11:30 - Van pulling U-Haul goes down a hill too fast, spins the van >around a couple of times and hits the ditch. > 12 P.M. - Get van out of ditch and keep on going. ><the rest of horrible experience snipped>

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:42:25 -0000 From: "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com> To: <rush1@thedoghousemail.com> Cc: "Ytsejam list" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Rhapsody, Wakeman's latest Message-ID: <08dc81941081949CPIMSSMTPU07@email.msn.com>

    Someone wrote

    >Iv'e been checking out a website for the Italian band Rhapsody.

    For a good starting point try http://perso.wanadoo.fr/o.metayer/rhapwelc.htm ]From there you can get to the Rhapsody webring and to sign up to the Rhapsodyy (english) mailing List - Most of the site though is in French.

    >Has anyone heard their music?

    Yes, Theres prog-metal, speed-metal and symphonic influences in there (particularly from the Baroque-era composers). The singer Fabio is great too.

    >General impression?

    I was scptical about the hype, but it blew me away. I havn't bought their first album yet (Legendary Tales) although I've heard a few tracks from it. It sounds OK, but a little less polished than 'Symphony of Enchanted Lands'.

    >Any virtuoso's?

    Luca Turilli (guitar) and Alex Staropoli (keys) are great. Luca Turilli of Rhapsody is also working on a solo project, due for release in September/october and called "King Of The Nordic Twilight" and will be produced by Sascha Paeth & Miro at the Gate-Studios in Wolfsburg in Germany, during April. the tracklist is as follows: Black Dragon / The Ancient Forest Of Elves / Legend Of Steel / Knight Of Immortal Fire / Warrior's Pride / Lord Of The Winter Snow / Where Heroes Lie / Kings Of The Nordic Twilight. A single "Legend Of Steel" will be available during the summer (In Europe)

    >What's a good album to start with?

    I'd start with the latest - Symphony of Enchanted lines

    Rhapsody have just finished a meet-an-greet tour of France, so there are some up-to-date interviews on the web. They can be found on the above site in French and English.

    As for the Wakeman 'Return to the Centre of the Earth', I have to say I was a bit disappointed. I rushed out to buy the original when it came out 25 years ago, and it rapidly became one of my favourite disks at the time, but times move on and although the story has been fleshed out a bit, and has all be enhanced orchestrally, the music sounds dated - I've managed to listen to it once or twice all the way through, but I think I'm just going to consign it to a poistion somewhere at the back of my CD collection .

    Charlie

    URL: http://www.servemode.co.uk/Charlie

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:01:01 +0200 From: "David Van Glabeke" <hawkey@skynet.be> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Added 2 MP3's to the JOHN PETRUCCI Page Message-ID: <000001be8f1b$ab9af220$ed09eec3@login.skynet.be>

    Hello, Just to tell you that I added 2 MP3's, 'Barfbag' and 'Slowmotion'... Check it out!

    David Van Glabeke http://www.users.skynet.be/JohnPetrucci/ NEW ICQ-NUMBER! : 36459887

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 08:26:31 -0700 From: Tom Johnson <signals2000@home.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Depressing music Message-ID: <37233427.1E29F4FB@home.com>

    Anyone check out the latest Porcupine Tree? Just gorgeous. I file it under "beautiful desperation" just like ChromaKey. It's an addictive album, I can't stop listening!

    I also file Radiohead (the Bends and OK Computer, at least - can't stand Pablo Honey) under this category, and all of Marillion's Brave and Clutching At Straws albums, too.

    Found Kevin Gilbert's Thud at a butt-cheap sale for $2, and some of his stuff can be filed in the "beautifully desperate" section, too. A shame he had to die, what a lyrical talent he had.

    Tom

    -- "What we call annoying, they used to call 'intense.'" -- Dr. Katz "Double-U? W is negative." --Anon. (overheard)

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    Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:35:15 +0700 From: Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: SB-NDTC Message-ID: <37235253.7D567327@pacific.net.ph>

    Where do I start with Spock's Beard?

    -Rob

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:18:13 EDT From: YtseSryche@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Peruvian Skies Bass Tab Message-ID: <7007efa9.2454a855@aol.com>

    Hey, my band just formed and we have a competition in about 3 weeks (Battle of the Bands). We're freshman and we aren't very good. But that's not the point, the point is, we wanna still see if we can rock, so we're gonna try a medley of Peruvian Skies, EnterSandman, and the end of the 3rd part and beginning of 4th part of ACOS. And my bass player and my guitar player can't play any song if they don't have the tab or music. I found Peruvian skies tab on guitar, but it can't be found ANYWHERE on bass. ANyone know where I can find it, or have it tabbed out themselves? Let me know in e-mail or here! Thanks a bunch!

    TonyC

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:05:48 -0500 From: Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: The Gig From Hell Message-ID: <l03130300b34906388520@[128.83.254.67]>

    yeah, my band had a pretty shitty gig a little over a year ago. We were playing the White Rabbit in San Antonio. We were supposed to play after Cinderleaf, a pretty big band in SA, and really cool guys, on the main stage. They had a big crowd, and I'm sure we could have won a bunch of new fans from their crowd. Here's where it gets shitty. The booking guy, Chris, had arranged for a record exec to come hear Cinderleaf (so he says). He also wanted the exec to be able to hear us, but Chris didn't want the guy to wait the 20 minutes between bands. So he bumped us to the jam room, a little room in the back of the club with a shit PA, so we would be playing as soon as Cinderleaf finished, and chris could usher the guy back to hear us right away. Well, the record guy never showed up, we went on earlier than we told people, so we didn't have a very big crowd, and we didn't get to play for Cinderleaf's crowd. Needless to say, that really sucked. On a lighter note, last night we had one of the best shows of our career. It was our first weekend gig in Austin, so we were pumped. We had a pretty decent crowd, and we fuckin' rocked the house! We had a pretty short set, so we kept it to our harder, higher energy songs. I had a blast. It was the best performance of my life; I've never gotten THAT into the music and performance.

    Jim Shields Guitar/Vocals Room 213 www.room213.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spread before you is your soul / So Forever hold the dream within our hearts Through Nature's inflexible grace, I'm learning to live. Dream Theater "Learning to Live" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:47:41 -0500 From: bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Kevin Moore's chromakey at BORDERS!!! Message-ID: <199904252147.QAA30356@busprod.com>

    >Dave (a UK jammer, now in Alabama). >NP: Chromakey (again, will this bugger ever leave my changer....?).

    This is a great cd. I've personally bought copies for several of my friends and they all think its a great find.

    and the amazing part....

    this cd is on a BORDERS listening station. this means that if there's one of these around town there isnt any reason for you to not take a few minutes and take a listen. You can friggin' listen to it to see if you like it for free.... you cant beat that mi amigos!!!

    This testemonial brought to you by:

    bruce bforst@busprod.com

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:13:24 EDT From: MFishook@aol.com To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: EVENT - prog in the WAAF battle of the bands Message-ID: <1d94f826.2454ed84@aol.com>

    Heya Folks,

    Just wanted to let all New England folks know about an upcoming show for EVENT. We will be participating in the WAAF sponsored Battle of the Bands at the Rock Pile in Saugus MA. The show is May 21. 18+, and we will be selling tickets in advance for $5. Anyone interested in getting preshow tickets from the band has a few options: I (Matt, Drummer) will be at the Rock Pile friday nights and at the Manchester and Boston JP/MP clinics. Only tickets sold in advance will support the band directly. Come out to a newly re-opened club that kicked ass for many years and is now doing so again. Rt. 1 to Rt. 99 in Saugus.

    Contact me to get info on other ways to get tickets: MFishook@aol.com

    Matt Scurfield EVENT - http://www.mysticfishook.com

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    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:11:47 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Cerminara" <savaytse66@psu.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: DC Cooper Out Message-ID: <4.1.19990425220920.00a25860@email.psu.edu>

    I think the following article speaks for itself:

    Official letter from "Royal Hunt": Posted by ROYAL HUNT on April 25, 1999 at 12:03:33:

    To whom it may concern, Due to irreconcilable differences between DC Cooper and the other members of ROYAL HUNT, the band is replacing him and is looking for a new lead singer to continue recording their new studio album. DC Cooper not wanting to be an equal member of the band, decided to become a "hired gun" (freelance singer). He has also made it clear, that if the offer wasn t big enough, he would not be interested in continuing to work with the band. ROYAL HUNT has no intention to fulfill his unreasonable demands and feels that DC Cooper is only concerned about the financial side of the deal and is no longer looking into the best interests of the band and it s creative development. The band will stay put to all obligatory contracts and be as timely as possible with the delivery of the new master. However, there may be a slight delay due to the above mentioned fact. Our management will update you with the progress as usual. ROYAL HUNT

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