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Today's Topics:

1) Re: Power of Omens
by Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@Legato.COM>
 2) ELP
by T Ismail Reza <lukalama@rad.net.id>
 3) Why, yes, I am.....
by "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
 4) Power of Omens
by "BILL HUSTON" <Huston@iomega.com>
 5) Metallica humor (NDTC)
by "Paul Humm" <phumm@scientech.com>
 6) queensryche are republicans?
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
 7) Billy Cobham's Drums by Design
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
 8) thousnads of things
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
 9) Re: thousnads of things
by JamesAhab@aol.com
10) Rockfest '99 in Kansas City, Kansas
by "A Change Of Seasons" <dreamtheater@cjnetworks.com>
11) Epicenter in Providence
by "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4833
by Toneadd9@aol.com
13) RE: Power of Omens
by "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com>
14) Re: Erotomania
by AyameYuki@aol.com
15) Give Q2K a Chance
by "Pete Davis" <phdavis@wt.net>

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:58:48 -0700
From: Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@Legato.COM>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Power of Omens
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990428125848.00b758f0@mail.legato.com>

Jon Kretschmer's inquiring minded wanted to know:

>I saw that review of the Power of Omens CD, and I was wondering if anyone
>has any thoughts about them. I am slightly intrigued from the sound clips
>on their web page, mostly because these are the kinds of bands that usually
>build on me. Their singer IS Geoff Tate though...It is quite weird. It's
>like listening to a proggier Queensryche.
>
>My favorites are DT, SX, SB, Angra, Superior, FW, among others.
>
>So what are everyone's opinions that have the CD? Thanks for any help.

Hiya Jon..long time no chat!

Wow Power of Omens. Eyes of the Oracle is an incredible freshman cd from
this outfit. It's full of syncopated drumming, some wonderful touches of
spanish guitar thrown in here and there throuhg out some songs and yes a
singer that has been compared to an early Geoff Tate. They have a 17 +
minute epic "Test of Wills" that is an amazing masterpiece. Ask me to
compare it to other bands as a reference and I can't. Maybe others here
can do so. I have often heard this CD referred to as being technical
progressive metal. Thisis one of my fave discs of 1998. I hope others
here have more to contribute.

Cheers,

Coldfire
GalleryMistress@dreamt.org
http://www.dreamt.org/coldfire
Gallery of Shadows the Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List
galleryofshadows@onelist.com
http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows

"the way you come to me is such a mystery, I just reach out and
connect".....Mystery - Shadow Gallery

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 03:14:35 +0700
From: T Ismail Reza <lukalama@rad.net.id>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: ELP
Message-ID: <37276C27.CF660344@rad.net.id>

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>Brain Salad Surgery contains the magnificent Karn Evil 9
> Impressions I-III.

Oh, no! I've sinned!

Let's face it; I fucked up!

Yes, it is Right; The Karn Evil 9 is in the Brain Salad Surgery!

(I'm hearing the scary sounds of screams, no, actually its some song by
some boys band! And, No! They are all super cute! And they are all
cannot sing; but could dance(?) and wiggle so much! AAAAARGHHH! This
must be the gate of HELL!)

So, to repent, and bath my self again in the light of Being; I will tell
you a story=D6

When ELP made Tarkus, actually it was a kind of concept album; that is
quite a cool thing back then. Another cool thing is the black disk that
you could put sounds and play it again and again and again=D6And the cove=
r
are usually bathed in flying colour (and artworks....)
Anyway, I have that old thing .....:-)
And in it we could see the whole story of Tarkus.

It was like; this ERUPTION (the first song) brought this egg to hatch;
so the Tarkus was born. Tarkus is a mixed up between armadillo and
tanks; fully armed with anger and ammo. With attitude; Tarkus beginning
to crush the enemy that come;the spider/squid-like tank, the Pterodactyl
tank, the Lizzard/locust tank; to pieces.
(hmm. I've been thinking about the connection between these images and
songs after Eruption; but still haven't got any clue=D6:-))

And then, come the MANTICORE ( the fifth song; after STONES OF YEARS,
ICONOCLAST, and MASS) and then, the real BATTLEFIELD began. It happened
that the Tarkus was lost from the Manticore, but do not destroyed. The
Manticore just sting the Tarkus in the eye. And then, the Tarkus
retreated to the sea.

And from the sea, the legend said that one day the AQUATARKUS would
come; and destroy the Manticore=D6

this is when the story ended.

(I'm hearing another sound now; a peacefull and warming; Ah! A band
called "Lucifer's Friends"! So this must be heaven! Thank-You God! )

*snif*. Well, anyway; there is a lot of speculation about the story. One
of it said that it was a personification of the battle between the
Capitalist (Manticore) & the Labor (Tarkus)=D6But one thing for sure; thi=
s
album ROCK! A real winner!

np: Prince of Darkness_______Lucifer's Friends

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:21:12 -0400
From: "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Why, yes, I am.....
Message-ID: <009801be91b4$aa3b33e0$0200005a@Kez>

I sent this personal e-mail through the 'jam:

----Original Message-----
]From: Kez <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: Shirt

>
>Hey Joshua,
>
>I just finally sent off my order for a YtseJam t-shirt. Just wanted to give
>you a heads up, and tell you to look for it in a few days.
>
>Thanks for the offer. Glad you still have some!
>Kez

Yes, I AM an idiot, thank you very much.

Kez

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:37:55 -0600
From: "BILL HUSTON" <Huston@iomega.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Power of Omens
Message-ID: <s7271d62.090@royn20.iomega.com>

Jon Kretchmer said:
>I saw that review of the Power of Omens CD, and I was wondering if anyone
has any thoughts about them. I am slightly intrigued from the sound clips
on their web page, mostly because these are the kinds of bands that =
usually
build on me. Their singer IS Geoff Tate though...It is quite weird. It's
like listening to a proggier Queensryche.

My favorites are DT, SX, SB, Angra, Superior, FW, among others.

So what are everyone's opinions that have the CD? Thanks for any help.
>

Jon, I've had this CD since it came out. That was about 6 months ago. I'm =
just now able to get into it. This is indeed, a very technical, almost =
inaccessible album to appreciate. It takes a little work, but damn well =
worth it! I now can't go 3 days without hearing it. Not only that, I am =
beginning to recognize the hidden hooks that are in there. Another jammer =
stated that there aren't any memorable choruses. I suggest keep listening =
and you'll find them. Go ahead and buy this CD, Jon, as it is worth it. =
Just don't expect to totally get into it right away. There are lots of =
things going on in it and that requires time to appreciate. Without a =
doubt one of the best prog CDs out there. And, the only QR resemblance is =
the vocals, the music is far and away more technical than any of their =
stuff. This last sentence is not meant to be flame bait-just an observance.=

Wilmo

NP: Clockwork-Surface Tension (another difficult one to appreciate)

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:50:52 -0700
From: "Paul Humm" <phumm@scientech.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Metallica humor (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199904282050.OAA04273@if.scientech.com>

Metallica fans might want to check out the following article for a
good chuckle:

http://www.theonion.com/onion3516/hetfield_named.html

-Paul

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Paul Humm
phumm@scientech.com

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:02:43 PDT
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: queensryche are republicans?
Message-ID: <19990428210243.13666.qmail@hotmail.com>

not that the politics of that rock band really matter to me, but (and
apologies if anyone beat me to this piece of information) has anyone
heard what Dan Quayle's slogan is for his (IMO hopeless) campaign for
the Republican presidential nomination next year?

yep....you saw this one coming, didn't you? Q2K

so....if I, and a whole heck of a lot of political commentators are
wrong and Quayle does somehow rise above the Empty Shell (George
Bush jr.) and the Princess of Precision (Liz Dole) and a whole host
of other no name GOP-sters, Queensryche might want to hook up with
the dude and catch some coattails to platinum status....

otherwise, I really really really hope that title isn't final....

partha

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:37:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Billy Cobham's Drums by Design
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990428143645.373A-100000@otter.mbay.net>

Greetings musicofiles,
Can anyone tell me a good web cite to get Billy Cobham's video
"Drums by Design?" My girlfriend is a drummer who idolizes Billy and her
birthday is at the end of May. Thanks. Be well.
Matt B

============================================================================
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innovative, experimental, technical, and fun-loving musicians to
create works of art and share them with the public. Enquire if
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will there be hope for Man?" (Daniel Quin)
"If your social circle is you, you're a cactus." (Ron Thal)

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:46:02 -0700
From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: thousnads of things
Message-ID: <4.1.19990428174102.00933c70@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>

OK, I got some questions.

1. Symphony X--Where to start and is there an mp3 of them anywhere? I have
been hearing a lot of stuff about these guys and CDnow has some of their
CDs but no sound clips. I want to hear somethint before I go and buy, so
point me in a good directionaand give me some good starting points.

2. On the same vein, I trust the jam's judgement and once I heard Spock's
Beard, I loved them, so can anybody recommend a good prog or prog metal
band with some great keyboard stuff and point me to an mp3 of theirs? I am
open to anything along the vein of what we listen to here, Rush, DT, ELP,
Yes, SB, any of the magna carta stuff except caliban and tempus, Genesis,
Styx, etc. etc. The info would be great.

3. rudess stuff--I ordered the video of jordan Rudess on 4/1 and haven't
even been billed or received the video. How long did it take for you guys
to get a video? On a related note, Jordan has tons of CDs for sale on his
site, and I am interested in all of his nonpiano stuff, but would like to
know if anybody has ordered them beforehand, how long did it take and which
CDs are good ones. I should know that they will all kick my ass fiercely,
but I am just trying to sort out a lot of money issues. Not that I don't
have any, but what to buy first. By the way, Jordan is not listed in
CDNow's archives and I think we should bitch to get his shit up there.

I think that is all, so if anybody has answers to those questions, fucking
clue me in, OK? Thanks.

P.S. Queen's Ryche's new album title is a bit witty, if not a bit gay, and
I hope they do produce something different, and not follow the grunge
thing. i actually thought Now Frontier wasn't terrible, but I hope they
continue to experiment.

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:18:30 EDT
From: JamesAhab@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: thousnads of things
Message-ID: <901a835b.2458e336@aol.com>

>< 1. Symphony X--Where to start ><

The Divine Wings of Tragedy is their best album, without a doubt. Not many
people will tell you otherwise.

>< and is there an mp3 of them anywhere? ><

I'm sure there is, just search for them. I don't know of any myself. My
computer is such a piece of shit, it would take me an hour, maybe more, to
download MP3s, so I don't bother with that stuff.

><

Stay away from CDNow, unless you have some discount or something. I've always
said the best place to buy progressive rock is www.lasercd.com. They have all
of the Symphony X albums for $15 a piece, brand new, no shipping and
handling, very fast and very reliable. You just have to e-mail them to make
sure the album you want is available. CDNow is charging, what? $20+ for
Symphony X?

So Divine Wings of Tragedy, lasercd.com, and mp3...you don't even need one.

jim

np - quiet room
sanvoisen

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:28:12 -0500
From: "A Change Of Seasons" <dreamtheater@cjnetworks.com>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Rockfest '99 in Kansas City, Kansas
Message-ID: <000501be91c6$67e70ca0$6a47f0c7@o5h0w2>

Hey all.
I have a huge question and if Mike P. would confirm this, I would be
most grateful. But there is a rumor flying that DT will play Rockfest
in Kansas City, Kansas in late May. If Syrinx, Itchy, or even Mike
himself could confirm this, I would be out buying tickets faster
than.... well, you get the idea.

Thanks!
'poj' =o)
*********************************************************************
"Seize the day!" I heard him say.
"Life will not always be this way.
Look around. Hear the sounds.
Cherish your life while you're still around!"
*********************************************************************
A Change Of Seasons -- by Dream Theater
email me @ <appoggiatura@hotmail.com>
ICQ#31820332

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:32:48 PDT
From: "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com>
To: c12w86@yahoo.com
Cc: damanz@beld.net, bostonjam@dreamt.org, ytsejam@axnet.net,
Subject: Epicenter in Providence
Message-ID: <19990428223248.21131.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hey everybody,

On Thursday, May 6th at the Living Room in Providence, Epicenter
will be performing and opening for the band Simple Mind. The show
starts at 8 PM sharp and is 3 dollars cover all ages. Come support
your local progressive metal band! Email me if you need directions.

"Wild" Bill
Epicenter - The latest wave of American Progressive Metal

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:55:52 EDT
From: Toneadd9@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4833
Message-ID: <eb53b504.2458fa08@aol.com>

In a message dated 4/28/99 12:43:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com
writes:

> From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net>
> Subject: Yippie skippie!
> Message-ID: <37275529.48CC90E3@isd.net>
>
>
> I'm almost done with the speakers! Whew... that was a lot of work!
> (and a substantial amount of cash, too) Here's the page with the pics:
> http://www.isd.net/astrosch/project.html
> What do you think? BTW, the one that has been finished for a few weeks
> now is MIND BLOWING! The lower two octaves make the room breathe!
>
> --
> Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
> ^
> Switchcraft Microsystems

what is this about? please private mail to avoid clutter on the jam
thanx
t

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:29:28 -0700
From: "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: RE: Power of Omens
Message-ID: <002701be91e2$e7a773a0$046400c0@oemcomputer>

Well, I've only listened to it a couple of times, but it's not too bad. The
singer sounds almost exactly like Tate, which is OK by me (I mean, I'd
rather hear someone sound like Tate than say, oh, Celine Dion). The music
might be a little too complicated at times. Sometimes it seems like there
are too many ideas in the songs, like the band is trying way too hard to
impress everyone with their playing capabilities. Maybe the next CD they'll
tighten up the arrangements a bit. If you like the samples you heard, you'll
probably like the CD.

I might not be the best judge of this, though, as it takes me a long time to
get into most CDs. I don't like almost any CD the first couple of times I
listen to it. Often they'll grow on me, sometimes they don't (like the new
Spock's Beard CD, which so far does not impress me like the rest of them).

Oh, Power Of Omens is supposed to play at Powermad this year. Those who
attended Powermad last year know what to think of proposed band line-ups,
but you never know. Things could be different this time... (make up your own
Powermad jokes here)

Dave Thomas - Editor, Pixel Planet
Reviews of books, music, comics, movies, games, CG software, programming
tools and more!
http://www.pixelplanet.com

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:21:29 EDT
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Erotomania
Message-ID: <a4ed56a0.24591c29@aol.com>

hey jammers...i was listening to Erotomania...if you listen long
enough....exactly at 5:29.5 - 5:49 is a cool bass riff with guitar. its got
some freakishly cool techno thing going there. i suggest you listen to
it...you might jam in a new direction ( just dont slam into any brick
walls...like i did ) guess i should learn to open my eyes for once.

nic,

one dizzy bassist

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:02:45 -0500
From: "Pete Davis" <phdavis@wt.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Give Q2K a Chance
Message-ID: <000201be91f5$23576e20$418277d8@phdavis.wt.net>

<<
Maybe it will be a kick-ass album and I'll look stupid. I hope so.
I'll
pay that price for another good ryche album.

In this case I hope you look like a blithering fucking moron.....but
somthing tells me you wont since I am with your theory.
>>

I'm not sure what you people are expecting, but I attended the fan club show
back in January and the new material is nothing like their last CD. They
played five new tracks and I would describe the music to be in the same vein
as Operation: Mindcrime and Empire. I've been a fan of Ryche since their
early days and believe me, I was not impressed with Hear in the Now
Frontier. Give this new CD a chance!

Pete Davis

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