YTSEJAM Digest 5026
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Original ACOS
by "A_Change of_Seasons" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com>
2) now i must comment on the DTC
by "Justin Sepulveda" <ytsejamdt@hotmail.com>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5025
by William Cary Hall <wchall@email.unc.edu>
4) 6th sense.
by Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
5) ESPN League / MP's site
by Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
6) nuts
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
7) Re: Wagner`s Dream Theater
by "Sasha" <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
8) Re: Danielle Brisebous
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
9) Re: Danielle Brisebous
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
10) Lost in Twilight
by Andreas Skarin - SDTS <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
11) Re: Danielle Brisebous
by Andreas Skarin - SDTS <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
12) ACOS & 7-strings
by "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
13) as long as we're complaining
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
14) You are new here, so I'm not going to be a prick...
by "Jeremy Kube" <kube@fullnet.net>
15) 100% DTC
by Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <ytsekirby@yahoo.com>
16) Bear Tracks videos
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
17)
by "Jose Luis Ramos" <eramos@ctc-mundo.net>
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:42:49 PDT
From: "A_Change of_Seasons" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Original ACOS
Message-ID: <19990812034249.27346.qmail@hotmail.com>
>any body any where have the original ACOS tab? any body knows if =
>Petrucci already used his 7 strngs guitar in this song (the original, of =
>course).
>i need, please
The original was written about the same time as Met I and LtL... Petrucci
wasn't using his six string until the Awake sessions. The ACOS on the EP
was reworked to accomodate the use of the 7-string.
>
>thank ya
>
>Carpe Diem
>Code LGF
>
anytime. And all I've said can be found in the FAQ.
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:07:24 PDT
From: "Justin Sepulveda" <ytsejamdt@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: now i must comment on the DTC
Message-ID: <19990812040724.12559.qmail@hotmail.com>
I think the main reason there isn't as much DT related articles is maybe
because the new CD hasn't come out yet and they aren't touring. I am sure
plenty of people will post comments on how the live shows are and the CD and
all that. Just wait till October if you want more DTC.
Later,
Justin S.
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:30:42 -0400
From: William Cary Hall <wchall@email.unc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5025
Message-ID: <37B24DF2.26F86CA@email.unc.edu>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> > > Well, we've had one positive review and one idiotic "they suck"
> > >review...
> >And my opinion is idiotic because...........???
>
> because there's no details as to "WHY" they suck, and as such, there was no
> reason why you should have posted your opinion in the first place....if
> you've got some concrete reasons for your opinion, more so than "i think
> they suck" or some variation thereof, share it and we'll care....otherwise,
> your opinion (and you may recognize these words), "is of very little
> interest to the other jammers."
One person's suck is another's masterpiece. Instead of giving us a "suck" or "rules", how about describing them. Tell us how it sounds, as well as whether you like it. So you're opinion wasn't idiotic, just invalidated. Not that it wasn't right, but opinions don't count for shit if you don't say why you feel that way.
-- William Cary Hall http://www.unc.edu/~wchall ICQ# 6956498 AIM: UNC CaryNP: Spock's Beard - The Light
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:52:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: 6th sense. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.990812015146.20225A-100000@sparkie.gnofn.org>
all i can say is GO SEE THIS MOVIE!!!
You think Blair witch was scary, this shit is right up there
Kurt NP-Megadeth Cryptic Writings
******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****** @----'--,--- ******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****** "I remember Now" "Rodney King, what the hell is that supposed to mean? He's that guy." Airheads ************************************************************************
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:40:48 -0500 From: Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ESPN League / MP's site Message-ID: <37B27A80.3BE5@earthlink.net>
> Is anyone interested in playing ESPN fantasy football this year? This would > be the third year there was a jam-related league...
And along that vein, is there already a league set up for ESPN's free Pigskin Pick 'Em, or whatever it's called? If not, I'm going to set one up tomorrow.
If I didn't respond to everyone that sent me a BWP message, I'm sorry. I enjoyed each and every email I got.
Man, Portnoy's site is fantastic. I hope nobody thinks that it's in competition with Itchy's site, because they have different purposes. I would like to thank Dave Hatlee and Mike Portnoy very much for creating and maintaining this site. You guys are fantastic :)
Take care, Mark Peters epididymisle@earthlink.net
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:15:53 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: nuts Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F4622@ms.kallback.com>
> A man walks into a psychiatrist's office wearing nothing but a pair of > saran-wrap underpants. > "Well," says the psychiatrist, "I can clearly see you're nuts."
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:46:02 +0200 From: "Sasha" <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr> To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Wagner`s Dream Theater Message-ID: <000201bee4aa$c9765020$40e91dc3@sasa>
>From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
>>something like: "Wagner wanted to build his own theater, which would >>be built by his plans. It was suppose to be a "dream theater". :-))) And they >>mentioned the very well known "term" to all of us a few more times during
>Technically, Wagner probably wouldn't have built a "Dream Theater", he most >likely would have built a "Dream Theatre".
well, those words were spoken, not written... and do you pronounce theaTRE & theaTER different from one another? Last time i checked it was pronounced the same way... it`s okay, i know what you meant :-).
NP: Pink Floyd [Pulse] - Eclipse .. since i saw "total solar eclipse" today (well, total solar eclipse was seen only in Germany and Hungary, so basically we saw about 90% of it) i`ve played this song at least a dozen times today :-)))
"Lifting shadows off a dream Once broken She can turn a drop of water Into an ocean..."
John Myung of Dream Theater ["Lifting Shadows Off A Dream"]
sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr http://chronosphere.zambizzi.com ICQ UIN - 6098813
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:12:25 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Danielle Brisebous Message-ID: <37B29E09.30ED8386@isd.net>
Al (me:) apparently "made a big deal" with: >Has anyone heard of Danielle Brisebous? I've only heard a few snippets >of her stuff, but from what I've heard, wow, what a voice! The music was >somewhat generic soft rock, but damn... What a voice. :)"
>argument: You think she has a kick ass voice and I don't! Please don't >make a big deal out of this. It might get us both in the top 10 mfp list,
Are you menstruating? I fail to see where I made such a "B I G" deal. I *thought* she had a warm and well controlled voice. Thanks for enlightening me on her suck quotient, I'll be sure to never trust my own tastes again.
Several years ago..... (insert blurry wavy stuff here) A huge AC/DC supporting friend of mine said: "Karen Carpenter doesn't know how to sing, and her voice is lame." :/ They're still looking for the body.
I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:12:57 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Danielle Brisebous Message-ID: <37B29E29.6B6D926@isd.net>
Al (me:) apparently "made a big deal" with: >Has anyone heard of Danielle Brisebous? I've only heard a few snippets >of her stuff, but from what I've heard, wow, what a voice! The music was >somewhat generic soft rock, but damn... What a voice. :)"
>argument: You think she has a kick ass voice and I don't! Please don't >make a big deal out of this. It might get us both in the top 10 mfp list,
Are you menstruating? I fail to see where I made such a "B I G" deal. I *thought* she had a warm and well controlled voice. Thanks for enlightening me on her suck quotient, I'll be sure to never trust my own tastes again.
Several years ago..... (insert blurry wavy stuff here) A huge AC/DC supporting friend of mine said: "Karen Carpenter doesn't know how to sing, and her voice is lame." :/ They're still looking for the body.
I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:46:18 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin - SDTS <skarre@2.sbbs.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lost in Twilight Message-ID: <37B2A5F9.D3C1AFF8@2.sbbs.se>
Ok, to end this discussion all together I'm going to give a shot at explaining why I don't like Lost in Twilight. It was of course stupid of me to only state my opinion without providing any explanation as to why I feel this way. I shouldn't have lowered myself to the level of the hundreds of jammers that regularly do the exact same thing. Anyway, here it goes.
When I first heard Lost in Twilight I thought it sounded like an amateur band. I played a couple of gigs with my band on some "rock nights" arranged by the youth centers when I was 15 and Lost in Twilight really reminded me of the bands who played at these concerts - 15 year old amateurs.
The guitar distortion was also horrible and it resembled the sound on one of my bands early demos. And finally, I think Lost in Twilingt are about as tight as a 50 year old hooker. I only listened to a couple of songs though and I'm going to add a BIG IMHO.
Cheers!
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se
Partha Mukhopadhyay wrote:
> > > Well, we've had one positive review and one idiotic "they suck" > > >review... > >And my opinion is idiotic because...........??? > > because there's no details as to "WHY" they suck, and as such, there was no > reason why you should have posted your opinion in the first place....if > you've got some concrete reasons for your opinion, more so than "i think > they suck" or some variation thereof, share it and we'll care....otherwise, > your opinion (and you may recognize these words), "is of very little > interest to the other jammers." >
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:58:51 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin - SDTS <skarre@2.sbbs.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Danielle Brisebous Message-ID: <37B2A8EB.4BA4740@2.sbbs.se>
"Al @ Switchcraft" wrote:
> >argument: You think she has a kick ass voice and I don't! Please don't > >make a big deal out of this. It might get us both in the top 10 mfp list, > > Are you menstruating? I fail to see where I made such a "B I G" deal. > I *thought* she had a warm and well controlled voice. Thanks for enlightening > me on her suck quotient, I'll be sure to never trust my own tastes again.
Your failure to comprehend the simplest of sentences is astounding! What I meant was, don't make this into a big argument. But I'm afraid it's too late for that now. And as far as the menstruating remark, I am a male and don't menstruate, maybe you should pick up a biology book? And that remark has been done about 300 times here already. Come up with something more original.
> I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.
The big Ytse-ProGtologist has once again spoken like the true pretentious asshole that he is.
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:53:45 EDT From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ACOS & 7-strings Message-ID: <19990812125345.5180.qmail@hotmail.com>
>any body any where have the original ACOS tab? any body knows if = >Petrucci already used his 7 strings guitar in this song (the original, of = >course).
As far as I know, he didn't have the 7-string until after the release of I&W. So it would have been all 6-string on the original ACOS. Plus, I think I remember reading in Guitar Shop mag an interview before ACOS was released where he said that he was changing a lot of the parts to use the 7-string more.
Then again, maybe he had the 7-string, but the B string got mad and ran off, so they started yelling "don't go!". Then when they were in the studio it came back, so they didn't have to say it anymore.
Or maybe I should just have my morning dose of caffeine before I try to post something.
kevin
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:16:20 PDT From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: as long as we're complaining Message-ID: <19990812151621.76679.qmail@hotmail.com>
as long as we're bitchin' about where DT stops along their tours, I'd just like to throw in my $.02. Toad's Place, in New Haven, CT is a great venue if yer over 21, but if you're a young whippersnapper such as myself (and several other Connecticut DT fans) you have to keep behind a big ol' net on the extreme right of the stage. I went to a DT show there in december, and Derek & James were the only members who were actually visible for most of the show. At the end I lifted my 5'4" freind up so he could actually see what DT looked like. I know that tour scheduling is complicated business, and if DT stops at Toad's, i WILL go see 'em, but I'm begging that they TRY to get a different CT venue. Fran the Bitter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Face the knowledge that the truth is not the truth - Neil Peart ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:26:24 -0500 From: "Jeremy Kube" <kube@fullnet.net> To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: You are new here, so I'm not going to be a prick... Message-ID: <001101bee4df$6bc70e80$356a67ce@jeremyku>
OKAY.. I AM GOING TO BE A PRICK.. MAYBE YOU'D MAKE ROOM FOR MORE DT RELATED CONVERSATION IF YOU DIDN'T POST IN MIME MODE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!
Well, i think you're right. Ok, i'm a little bit new in the jam, and the = # of digest is gigantic (almost 3 per day), but when i check them, only = a few is really about dream theater. I guess the porpouse of the digest = is going to a unexpected way.=20
I don't know, it's just a thought.=20
Carpe Diem,
Code LGF
P.s.: I stopped with the ytsejammer. It's getting too commun. :-)
Jeremy Kube Oklahoma State University Fire Protection and Safety Engineering Technology Major inflammabl@aol.com kube@fullnet.net "Sex is Death, Death is Sex. It says it right here on my crucifix!" Dream Theater.
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:59:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <ytsekirby@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 100% DTC Message-ID: <19990812175949.12986.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>
Hi 'jammers,
That's right, this post contains 100% DTC.
<MaxArbot@aol.com> wrote: >Hell, why you're at it, go to Amarillo, Lubbock, Levelland, (Texas) >and any other town nearby so I can see them every time. ;o)
Um, actually they were in Lubbock in May of '98. Unfortunately 10 hours was a bit too much for me to drive, so I settled for seeing them in Ft. Worth and San Antonio.
And to the person who asked why DT doesn't vary the set more, each of the 3 shows named above was VERY different! I heard that they (gasp) *took requests* at the Lubbock show. The Ft. Worth show was their "standard" set, and the San Antonio show was absolutely WILD (complete with Nightmare Cinema).
Here's looking forward to the '99 Holiday Shows! (...which I might make a guest appearance at...)
-Nicole/Kirby
P.S. See? I *told* you I could do it! 100% DTC!
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:51:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bear Tracks videos Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9908121450460.56628-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
Why in the WORLD didn't anybody tell me that JM TALKED during the videos?!
I nearly fell out of my chair!
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.home.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- I like to go down to the dog pound and pretend that I've found my dog. Then I tell them to kill it anyway because I already gave away all of his stuff. Dog people sure don't have a sense of humor. -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 14:54:05 -0400 From: "Jose Luis Ramos" <eramos@ctc-mundo.net> To: "Jose Luis Ramos" <eramos@ctc-mundo.net> Cc: "Jose Luis Ramos" <eramos@ctc-mundo.net> Message-ID: <001001befd50$4598b7c0$45441cc8@default>
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Disculpas por esta segunda entrega de la semana, pero les tenemos una = noticia flash :
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