YTSEJAM Digest 5047
Today's Topics:
1) Dali's Dilemma (review)
by "Jonas Opsal" <jonasops@online.no>
2) Re: Legality of boots...
by "Joshua R. Brand" <jbrand@mtu.edu>
3) Incredible New Band
by Dark Tower <voice@gonzo.wolfenet.com>
4) CRIMSON GLORY - new songs for download....
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
5) Please don't talk about bootlegging...
by "Jeremy Kube" <kube@fullnet.net>
6) The ONLY band I want to hear playing Dream Theater material IS Dream Theater.
by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
7) online CD stores
by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
8) Opinion of a new Opeth song (fwd)
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@iname.com>
9) Reach out and touch someone
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
10) New Megadeth CD review/Motley Crue Revue
by Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5046
by "jason braswell" <funkbreath@hotmail.com>
12) Re: The Legality Of Bootlegs?
by "Simon Long Krogh" <finn2@get2net.dk>
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:56:13 +0200
From: "Jonas Opsal" <jonasops@online.no>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Dali's Dilemma (review)
Message-ID: <004c01bef14c$545de240$11e54382@janopsal>
I must say... This CD (Manifesto For Futurism) is great!
I had heard "Whithin A Stare" on an mp3 before buying
the album. I didn't really care much for the song at first,
but when I listened to it for real I thought it was pretty
cool. The next couple of days It was impossible to get
it out of my head...
So, I decided to get the album, as I loved the mp3 more
and more the more I listened to it. When I actually got the
disc (long story), I was a bit disappointed. I didn't like it
too much. But, just as the mp3. all it took was a few more
listens, and this disc went right up as one of my favourites.
I bought LTE2 at the same time as D's D, and I haven't
had the time to listen to it for real yet. Every time I have
the opportunity to play music, I put on D's D...
I think the best tracks must be "Whithin A Stare" and
"Living in Fear". At leat those were the first songs I came
to love. Other good songs are "Despite The Waves",=20
"Can't You See" and "Ashen Days". I think all the songs
are great, but these are my favourites.=20
One complaint though. The verse of "Hills Of Memory"
sounds too much like a U2 song! It's a nice song, but
everytime I hear it, my brain sais U2, U2, U2...
And am I the only one hearing some DT riffs in some
of the songs? I don't have the CD here, so I can't tell
you where it is, but I swear...
Does anyone know if the new Tiles CD is good?
Jonas Opsal - jonasops@online.no
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Surfing Into Infinity: (DT website)
http://dreamtheater.tsx.org
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:06:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joshua R. Brand" <jbrand@mtu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Legality of boots...
Message-ID: <199908281306.JAA20757@login.ice.mtu.edu>
Had to throw in my two cents on some of this stuff...
> It's illegal to record songs off a radio station, download them
> off the web, copy them from a friend... All illegal methods.
Actually, I think the first is covered under the "Fair Use" law
that came about when the broadcasting industries tried to kill Sony's VCRs
in the early 80's. The courts decided that it was OK to have a copy of a
TV show on tape as long as it wasn't then used for public display or
profit. I can only assume the law applies to radio as well. Maybe not,
it's sort of a vague law...
> Actually... as far as I know, Mike Portnoy is the only member of
> Dream Theater who is pro-bootlegging...
Yeah, it was my understanding that JP is downright hostile toward
the idea. But since we chased the only other member of DT to be on the
'jam away in a midieval-like torch parade, Mike's the only one here, so
his opinion holds more weight. <suckup> All hail Mike! </suckup>.
That's my speil. Gotta get ready to haul ass back up to school...
have a good one, 'jammers everywhere.
Josh
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:26:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dark Tower <voice@gonzo.wolfenet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Incredible New Band
Message-ID: <199908281726.KAA18313@wolfenet.com>
Hey All,
Check out the new band Inner Resonance at:
www.iresonance.com
Their debut release, "Solar Voices," is out and it's incredible.
If you're a Dream Theater and Queensryche fan, you'll love this album. I
think they're going to be one to watch.
Cheers,
Bret
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:46:30 -0400
From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
To: BG Mailing List <blind-guardian@onelist.com>,
Subject: CRIMSON GLORY - new songs for download....
Message-ID: <37C84AA6.731ECD26@earthlink.net>
Hail......
Downloading two new songs from the ever-delayed new CRIMSON GLORY album
"Astronomica" from the SCREAM website right now:
Hopefully Jon Drenning has re-kindled some of the former magic that only
CRIMSON GLORY can conjure up. They also have tons of other cool
downloadable songs, reviews, news, etc. at the site.
cheers,
Carlo (Fates)
NP: LEATHERWOLF "Street Ready".
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:48:28 -0500
From: "Jeremy Kube" <kube@fullnet.net>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Please don't talk about bootlegging...
Message-ID: <000301bef19f$10bf0200$796a67ce@jeremyku>
Hey guys.. I am pleading with you to please discontinue discussion of this
subject. It was a topic hashed out by everyone on the jam about a year or
so ago.. to the point that I thought it was dead. To revive such a
discussion is like digging up a dead relative for one last hug...its just
disgusting. : )
If you purchase bootlegs.. thats your business, if you sell them...well,
good luck. If you own them, enjoy them. End of story.
As for MP not minding bootlegs.. thats cool. The rest of the members of
the band haven't *really* shared a true opinion. Rock on, J
Jeremy Kube
Oklahoma State University
Fire Protection and Safety Engineering Technology Major
inflammabl@aol.com
kube@fullnet.net
"Sex is Death, Death is Sex. It says it right here on my crucifix!"
Dream Theater.
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:55:35 -0500
From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The ONLY band I want to hear playing Dream Theater material IS Dream Theater.
Message-ID: <000201bef1a0$0e87e140$bf0988cf@jammer>
I couldn't agree with you more....
The ONLY band I want to hear playing Dream Theater material IS Dream
Theater.
Enough said.
Jan-Michael
>From: Carlos Andres Alfaro
>Subject: DT tribute
>
> Oh well,
>I just need to get this out of my system,
>is it just me, or this cd just sucks!? Most of the songs
>ive heard besides having bad singers, they plain just
>play the songs wrong! Its simply horrendous! AFIL, PMU,
>MEt damn messed up tempos, and plain wrong
>notes! I dont know, it may have been an honest effort
>and all, but IMO this belongs on like a free promo
>disc with your order or something like
>that on an online cd store...
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:00:21 -0500
From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: online CD stores
Message-ID: <000301bef1a0$b9293720$bf0988cf@jammer>
My two favorite online CD stores are CDnow and MoreMetal.com. Both are very
reliable and deliver the goods in short time frame.
JM
>From: "Jeremy Kube"
>Subject: CD Now...
>
>Just wanted to say, I think that it is understood that when
>CD Now doesn't have something in stock, it must be hard
>to get. I have never had a hard time getting something
>from CD Now. In fact, I'm a loyal customer. I do
>not shop at crappy stores anymore. I shop at CD Now.
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 01:42:29 -0300
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@iname.com>
To: rbrito-ytsebr@linux.ime.usp.br
Cc: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Opinion of a new Opeth song (fwd)
Message-ID: <19990828014229.A729@iname.com>
Well, this message comes from the Nectar mailing list, which
is a mailing list devoted to discussions about Opeth.
I just thought that you might like to read this if you are a
fan of the music of Opeth.
It is not DTC void (read and you'll see why).
[]s from your (now) graduate student pal, Roger... :-)
----- Forwarded message from Nebularus <nebularus@iname.com> -----
Reply-To: Nectar <rbrito-nectar@ime.usp.br>
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990827235902.00894540@julian.uwo.ca>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:59:02 -0400
To: Nectar <rbrito-nectar@ime.usp.br>
]From: Nebularus <nebularus@iname.com>
Subject: Opinion of a new Opeth song
Hail,
I guess the main reason I'm writing this to divert all attention from the
extremely tedious and mind-numbing tirades against Shayne, to more fertile
grounds, namely Opeth.
Anyway, I recently got a chance to listen to a track from "Still Life" are
here are my initial opinions of the song
Disclaimer:
KEEP IN MIND THAT I HAVE ONLY HEARD ONE SONG OFF THE ALBUM. AS A WHOLE,
"STILL LIFE" WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT FEEL, SINCE YOU CAN'T JUDGE THE WHOLE
ALBUM ON ONE SONG.
The songs starts off with a bang and heads right into a typical Opethian
"heavy part", complete with Mikael's awesome growls. His distorted vocals
are similar to MAYH, but it's good to see he hasn't changed something that
wasn't broken. Along with the heavy riffs are some interesting clean
melodies being played in the background. On a related note, one thing that
really struck me about this song it contains a lot of Iron Maiden-esque
soloing.
>From the heavy riffing comes a riff that sounds akin to a technical melody
found on a Dream Theatre release.
At the 3:00 min mark comes the first solid bit of clean singing, and I must
say that I'm mightily impressed. Mikael has improved his vocals
exponentially and I think no one will be disappointed with that fact. The
acoustic guitars have a more natural sound to them as well. One thing I
dislike with MAYH, was the very weak production for the acoustics. It's
good to see Fredman has rectified this problem.
A the 5:00 mark, comes a very different style of music that Opeth have not
used before, namely almost pure folk. Maybe Mikael's 70's prog/folk
influences are really coming to the fore here, and I have mixed reactions
about this. Firstly, although it's well performed, I swear I've heard this
melody before from somewhere. Maybe not note for note, but something
nagging me in the back of my mind about this.
6:00 brings us a soaring Opeth melody, which send chills down my spine.
>From the 7:00 min. mark to the end of the song (9:40), the song pretty much
uses the same riffs as before. This I have a problem with, but I'll get to
that later.
7:20, it's the Dream Theatre riff but in clean guitar style. Sounds very cool.
Small peeves:
Barely any dual-guitar melodies. The trademark sounds from Orchid and
Morningrise may be lost forever (note: I haven't heard the rest of the album).
I didn't notice the bass guitar that much. Unlike Johan's upfront playing,
Martin doesn't seem to be using the same initiative and inventiveness.
The drums seemed awefully subdued. Unlike MAYH, with it's interesting drum
fills and such, this song seems lacking in this department. It's competant,
but unadventurous.
On a whole, this song seems very careful and timid. It's almost like Opeth
has held back a bit. Maybe this has something to do with being on a bigger
label?
I really dislike the fact that although the song is close to ten min. it
only feels like a 6 min. song, because of all the riff repititions, esp. at
the end. When I heard Demons of the Fall, with it's "chorus", I had a
suspition that Opeth may try to make songs more similar to the verse,
chorus, verse format. Of course, it's not exactly like that, but's it's
something that I wonder about.
I'd say this song contains very little Morningrise influences, and I can
safetly say that it sound more like a progression from MAYH.
Remember my disclaimer!!!!
In closing, it may seem that I dislike the song. This is in no way true. I
think the song is amazing and I really enjoy it. I use reverse-psychology a
lot when it comes to music. I convince myself that I'm going to hate an
album, because I usually love it in the end. It's weird I know, but it
works for me.
Sorry if this seems rambling, but I wrote this in a very tired state.
Later,
Filip
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:25:41 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Reach out and touch someone Message-ID: <37C8D265.BE815AD5@isd.net>
Andreas Skarin wrote: >I could by myself a scud from Saddam, and if I got caught, say I was buying it >for Al @ Switchcraft :-). I don't think I ever would be able to prove it though.
C'mon you cheap bastard. If you're going to buy me a missile, the least you could do is get me something capable of reaching Sweden. :)
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:35:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New Megadeth CD review/Motley Crue Revue Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.990829012645.13563A-100000@sparkie.gnofn.org>
Hey gang, Just bought Risk the other day (shh...) Here's my sypnosis- Insomnia-Weired opener definately explains the title of the album Prince of Darkness-oh my god this song has a heavy riff in it. Crush Em-You all know this, WCW, Universal Soldier 2 CRUSH EM! Breadline-Radio Friendly-sounds like something on Metallica's Load The doctor is calling-sick tune dave will be dave wanderlust-see above ecstasysee 2 lines above seven-good rockin tune Time:The Beginning-Imm hush about this one listen to it Time the End-Duke Nukem theme I think
very good CD in all Very commercial Cd, but still a good "risk" The most interesting thing is that Marty and Dave wrote most of the songs, not dave and Dave.
Dave's voice is a lot better, Jimmy seems to fit with them, he is more technical than Menza was, but NO ONE WILL EVER REPLACE NICK HE WAS CORE METAL!
In other news I went to see Motley the other night with those German fied Scorpions. We got there in the middle of the Scorps set. I rocked like a hurricane. I don't know who there drummer was, but his solo was very impressive. Very nice double bass work. Such a waste on a band like them.
Anyway the crue was everything I have been waiting 10 yrs for. Pyro, lesbians, just good ole rock and role. The high light was the 2 chicks taking off their shirts, and when the kissed, oh, i love the Crue. It was nice to hear the original shout at the devil.
Kurt NP-Megadeth-risk heheheheheheh
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:23:40 PDT From: "jason braswell" <funkbreath@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5046 Message-ID: <19990829082340.82760.qmail@hotmail.com>
I've seen this discussed on the jam before, but I forgot all about it. Can someone give me the story behind the AC/DC music-filled I&W. Worth anything?
jason
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:08:38 +0200 From: "Simon Long Krogh" <finn2@get2net.dk> To: "The Ytsejam Mailinglist" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: The Legality Of Bootlegs? Message-ID: <003601bef200$c754d560$dfc38e81@flskesteg>
Hi, there! I have another questuion on this subject: Okay, here goes...I had October Rust by Type O Negative, brought it to a party where someone stepped on it or something like that...anyways it didn't work anymore. Then I borrowed another copy of the same disc from a friend and copied it...was that legal?
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