YTSEJAM Digest 5049
Today's Topics:
1) FS: Threshold, Savatage, Fantomas, Shadow Gallery
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
2) Re: Progless wasteland known as Australia
by Niall Connaughton <nconnaug@socs.uts.edu.au>
3) Derek Sherinian Interview
by "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@biccgeneral.com>
4) MacLaughlin
by "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com>
5) re: New Keneally anyone?
by Paul Fini <fini@engineering.ucsb.edu>
6) Re: Yes recommendations...
by Steve Chew <schew@tislabs.com>
7) John McLaughlin
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
8) Elmer Fudd on Vocals...
by Chris Oates <coates@mx1.objy.com>
9) Re: CDs for sale...
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
10) John Mclaughlin
by T Ismail Reza <lukalama@rad.net.id>
11) Spoilin' my ears / BGS99.
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
12) Rent
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
13) vinnie moore
by "Edward Polzin" <polzin@mindspring.com>
14) Re: [YTSEJAM digest 5048]
by Matthew Turk <sataiwilco@usa.net>
15) Musical Humor
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
16) Re: Spoilin' my ears / BGS99.
by "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
17) Got my Cds
by Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:18:59 -0400
From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FS: Threshold, Savatage, Fantomas, Shadow Gallery
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990830071859.00798b80@mail.erinet.com>
Sorry, my last post didn't include the prices...
The following are for sale. Prices include shipping.
$15, Threshold - Wounded Land [UK import]
$15, Threshold - Psychedelicatessen [UK import]
$8, Savatage - Streets (a rock opera)
$8, Shadow Gallery - Carved in Stone
$12, Fantomas - Amenaza al Mundo (Mike Patton of FNM, Dave Lombardo, etc)
If interested, email me.
Dan
+- Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web -+
dantemm@erinet.com http://www.dlm.net/gc/
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Does emotional music have quite an effect on you?
+- Faith No More "Land of Sunshine" -+
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:23:37 +1000 (EST)
From: Niall Connaughton <nconnaug@socs.uts.edu.au>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Progless wasteland known as Australia
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9908310018050.18049-100000@sally>
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:41:29 +1000
> From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: John Maclaughlin/the progless wasteland known as Australia
> Message-ID: <37C93888.4E360475@alphalink.com.au>
>
> and if they are touring or
> something, if we will see them down here in Australia.
Heh. Good luck :) MP, if you're reading this, I will personally give you
a cheque for $1 million if DT plays a tour in Australia (cheque will not
be honoured :P )
> And finally I found LTE2 in a CD store today after all these months of
> waiting and I thought it was
I don't know whether you're in Sydney or not, but I have found the closest
thing to a DT shrine in Sydney - Utopia records on George Street at Town
Hall. They have all DT albums, both LTE releases, DT singles, and some
stuff of DT as Majesty... :) Oh, and instructional videos from JP and JM.
So, if you're in Sydney, get yourself down to Town Hall and get in there.
And, if you're not, look Utopia up in the book... I don't know whether
they're a chain.
Niall
*progs along in this wasteland*
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:31:17 -0400
From: "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@biccgeneral.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Derek Sherinian Interview
Message-ID: <6D70903196D4D11190680008C728A61D016C22AB@HQEXS01>
There's a new interview with Derek Sherinian at the Hardradio site:
http://www.hardradio.com/hr3lead.html
--Zircon the Blue
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:16:03 -0500
From: "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: MacLaughlin
Message-ID: <199908301038870.SM00243@newcombr.netdot.com>
mike@alphalink.com.au wrote
>I keep hearing on the radio about a band that begins with the letter S
>and I think John Maclaughlin is one of the members.
The bands name is Shakti. It was during the time when ol' John boy was
deep into Indian philosophy and stuff. Great band. Albums are hard to
find.
Thorin
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:04:07 -0500
From: Paul Fini <fini@engineering.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: New Keneally anyone?
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990830095714.0098ad30@ecimail.ucsb.edu>
>Keep in mind this is coming from a complete non-Zappa type:
>
>
>What's the deal with Mike Keneally? I've been to his site and checked out a
>single clip from his new album, Nonkertompf, which was nothing more than a
>run-together three minute collage of every tune on the album - and there's
>like 37 of them. I liked what I heard, but it was hard to tell exactly what
>I was hearing. Can a prog-head give an opinion on it?
Well, I've been a big fan of Keneally's since seeing him and Beer for Dolphins
open for Spock's Beard at the Roxy last year. Their "Sluggo" album has some
real gems on it, and displays his enormous instrumental prowess (and weirdness
as well!). I just got "Nonkertompf" last week, and let me tell you this album
is not for the musically sqeamish or weak of heart. It definitely didn't click
with me right away like "Sluggo" did, but I'm going to give it a chance to
grow on me. This may involve slogging through a lot of Keneally's excessive
non-melodic creative runoff, but in the end it might be one of those albums
that
one can come to appreciate on its own merits. Time will tell...
p.
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fini@engineering.ucsb.edu Materials Dept.
voice (805)893-8869, fax (805)893-8971 MOCVD group
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:13:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steve Chew <schew@tislabs.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr
Subject: Re: Yes recommendations...
Message-ID: <199908301713.NAA17733@clipper.gw.tislabs.com>
>
>just a quick one... I need an advice. What would you recommend getting
>first:
>
>Yes - Yes
>Yes - Yessongs
>Yes - Time And A Word
>Yes - Yes Album, The
>Yes - Fragile
>Yes - Close To The Edge
>Yes - Relayer
>
> ... and on which album is "Heart Of The Sunrise" ? thanx
>
Hi,
Heart of the Sunrise is on "Fragile". I'd recommend either
Fragile or Close to the Edge as a starting point.
Steve
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:29:11 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: John McLaughlin
Message-ID: <37CAB157.3B731F56@mol.com.mk>
> From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
> Subject: John Maclaughlin
>
> I keep hearing on the radio about a band that begins with the
> letter S and I think John Maclaughlin is one of the members. The
> DJ says how they were such a great band back in the 70s and that
Umm, that can be SHAKTI! Great band, but it's a ethno/world.
McLaughlin was messing with Indian/Oriental music back then and he
studied it quite good.
Instruments like tabla, sitar, mridangam all over it! :) And special
guitar made bu John himself, designed for this kind of music! The one
Shakti album I have has shred all over it, both by John and others.
Imagine McLaughlun speed-of-light solos dueling with those Indian
konga-like percussions! :) AWESOME!
This is ethno/world music I love best!
> they are a reforming or have reformed or something and then
> they play a song, and whatever that song is I love it.
WHAT??? If we're talking about Shakti, that would be great! But I find
it odd reforming such a band with such a music in present time! :( I
would love to see it but I don't think many other folks care it
hapening.
-- CyberDuke ________________________________________________"What do you think about it?" "Shocking!" "Yeah, but do you think it was funny?" "Of course not! That would be REALLY shocking!"
The 2 balcony fossils, "The Muppet Show" ________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:53:21 -0700 From: Chris Oates <coates@mx1.objy.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Elmer Fudd on Vocals... Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990830125321.009b1900@objypop>
>And now for an insight into what makes me tick. There >are two songs that I would love to hear covered by two >very special people. The first would be Elmer J. Fudd >of Looney Tunes cartoon fame doing David Bowie's >"Rebel Rebel" (I can hear it now - "webel webel"). The
I don't have that, but I can probably get my housemate to sing "Enter Sandman" with an Elmer Fudd voice for you. He does it often enough on his own.
~Chris
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:17:25 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: CDs for sale... Message-ID: <37CB02F5.6016B1E1@home.com>
Dan Temmesfeld said he has the following CDs for sale: > Threshold - Wounded Land [UK import] > Threshold - Psychedelicatessen [UK import] > Savatage - Streets (a rock opera) > Shadow Gallery - Carved in Stone
Somebody take this guy up on his CD offers here, before he comes to his senses! ;) All these discs are killer...... I'd buy 'em if I didn't already have them.
- Joe D.
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:42:35 +0700 From: T Ismail Reza <lukalama@rad.net.id> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: John Mclaughlin Message-ID: <37CB330C.2A1B40A0@rad.net.id>
<<<<<<<<<< I keep hearing on the radio about a band that begins with the letter S and I think John Maclaughlin is one of the members. The DJ says how they were such a great band back in the 70s and that they are a reforming or have reformed or something and then they play a song, and whatever that song is I love it. >>>>>>>>>
I think the band name is:
SHAKTI
but I don't know about the reformed thing! Are you sure? The group usually has the "Indian" sound all over them=85
Anyway, if you like John McLaughlin, (not MACLaughlin) the guitarist that played with great name like Miles Davis, I think you should check MAHAVISNU ORCHESTRA, man, this band kick some real serious & conceptual a= sses!
Personally, I will recomend you with the three album of this MAHAVISNU ORCHESTRA band; "The Bird of Fire, "Vision of Emerald Beyond", & "Apocalypse" ....
Hope this help!
The Schizoid Man! Reza! np_________Lou Reed "Vicious Thing"
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:22:21 -0400 From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Spoilin' my ears / BGS99. Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990830222221.0079ae00@mail.ptd.net>
Hey Jammers,
Having been graced with both Mullmuzzler and Royal Hunt's "Paradox" in one week, and having experienced more eargasms in the last few months than would be normal, I'm afraid I'm becoming musically spoiled. To think: In these last few months, I have been exposed to such an incredible amount of music, including a lot of non-prog stuff my guitar teacher keeps recommending, and I can't believe how great it all is. Let me throw some titles out: LTE2. Dali's Dilemma: MFF. Royal Hunt: Paradox. Mullmuzzler: KitY. Symphony X: TDWoT. Devin Townsend: OM: Biomech. Chroma Key: DAFR. Mike Stern: TiP, UD. Pat Metheny: BSL, AG. Holdsworth: MF. Joe Stump: RFR. Steve Morse Band: S-F ...
While these 2 are still fresh in my mind, I'd like to say a bit about Mullmuzzler and RH. First, Mullmuzzler: IMVHO, James LaBrie has not sounded this good since Images and Words ... he only screeches on 1 or 2 high notes, and his voice sounds stronger and better than ever. (IMO!) The music itself? Let me say that our KJLB has assembled quite the "prog all-star team" to write this record ... but the emphasis here seems to be more on *songwriting*, which I think is great. No odd time stuff, as has been said, except for a few trippy things in "As a Man Thinks". The ballads are wonderful ("Sacrifice" and "Slow Burn"), and "Beelzebubba", cheesy as it may be, is good for a chuckle or 2. I know this is saying a lot, but as far as the SONGWRITING aspect is concerned, I would not mind hearing an album like this from Dream Theater. =P
Royal Hunt. D.C. Cooper is incredible!! Paradox is an incredibly well-thought out, well-written concept album, IMHO, and one of the finest pieces of music I think Magna Carta has ever released. It has some great neo-classical themes in it, and there is no over-done shred or wankery from anyone in the band. Where is the recognition this album deserves?!?!? It's only been a week, but I'm ranking it up there with the best of 'em.
*** The Berklee Guitar Sessions: It was a crazy, fun, inspirational week. The schedule was a bit busy ... I remember having time to breathe once, maybe? Anyway, I chose metal for my styles and ensemble classes, and it ended up being a lot of fun. Joe Stump was teaching again, and he also did a concert halfway thru the week at the BPC ... I still think he has machinery built into his arms and wrists, or something. The man is fast. In my ensemble we did 2 Satch songs from SWtA (Ice9 and Crushing Day) ... I snuck the Paradigm Shift riff into my G solo in the latter. :) Anyway, that was great, but the inspiration didn't stop there ... Bruce Bartlett was probably my favorite performance, with Joe Stump (son of Yngwie, the Young Swedish Viking who saved the guitar world from itself =P) following as a close 2nd. Mike Stern did a clinic, which I managed to bootleg (shhhhh!!) on cassette ... some very helpful insights and tips, and of course, a few awe-inspiring demonstrations. In a nutshell, it was both a fun/crazy week, and a good reality check inasfaras my own musicianship is concerned. I was happy to make the acquaintance of fellow 'jammer Matt Molite, who, for 16, is well on his way to becoming a great player (yer welcome dude) ... among a few other interesting people (Gizmo, the Canuck, Donut Boy, Prodigy ... we gave everyone nicknames). Kick some ass, the week did.
Anyway, this post is becoming long-winded and is probably useless info to most of you anyway, so I will shut up. :) Happy posting.
~Brian
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:33:16 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Rent Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990830213316.007c7c00@umav04.udem.edu.mx>
hi there, I just wanted to let you people know that I uploaded a 6 minute instrumental song of Dweezil Zappa on my site http://welcome.to/thenetdom
It is supposed to be changing each week but Im not having enought time to update the thing weekly...the thing is that Im going to change it this week so download it while you can.
now, jumping directly to my topic...
has anyone heard the broadway musical called RENT? a friend of mine lended it to me last week and Im liking it so far, it's pretty sick...kind of a critic to new yorker's life...it's very funny and weird....the one I got (I dont know if there are any other versions) is from dreamwork's record label...
the woman that does the character of Mimi has an awesome voice, check the track 8 of disc 1, kind of sexy too....
I may upload this track to my site as the next mp3 file "of the week" so check it out if you are interested...should be up later this week.
---
Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico -------------------------------------------------------- http://welcome.to/thenetdom
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:00:43 -0500 From: "Edward Polzin" <polzin@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: vinnie moore Message-ID: <000c01bef35d$09223f20$710c8ad1@boner>
Anyone know where i can get ahold of a copy of Vinnie Moore's Meltdown on cd? i've seen it on ebay a couple of times, but havent had the luck of winning it yet. later.
Edward Polzin Live and Rare Recordings http://polzin.home.mindspring.com
CD Liner Downloads http://members.xoom.com/polzin322/
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Date: 30 Aug 99 23:24:41 EDT From: Matthew Turk <sataiwilco@usa.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: [YTSEJAM digest 5048] Message-ID: <19990831032441.23898.qmail@www0s.netaddress.usa.net>
>>just a quick one... I need an advice. What would you recommend getting first:
Yes - Yes Yes - Yessongs Yes - Time And A Word Yes - Yes Album, The Yes - Fragile Yes - Close To The Edge Yes - Relayer<<
I'd definitely reccomend Relayer, all the way, and I know I don't speak f= or the entire 'jam when I say that. It's the most aggressive of the albums,= in my opinion, and it's where they really shine. Alan's drums sound very prominent, Jon's voice is good but not overused -- the lyrics are kept to= a minimum. Rick's not with the band at this point, but Patrick Moraz certa= inly stands up well in his shadow. Overall, I can listen to this album over a= nd over and still not get bored of the sword-clashing in Gates of Delerium o= r the "frantic rush up the scale" of Sound Chaser. I'd say it's definitely my favorite Yes album.
Then again, I also like Tales, so you might want to take my opinion with = a few grains of salt.
mjt
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:45:35 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Musical Humor Message-ID: <37CB4FDF.C0FDC45B@isd.net>
Two vampires wanted to go out to eat, but were having a little trouble deciding where to go. They were a little tired of the local food in Transylvania and wanted something a little more exotic. After some discussion, they decided to go to Italy because they had heard that Italian food was really good.
So off they went to Italy and ended up in Venice. On a bridge over one of the canals, they hid in the shadows and waited for dinner. A few minutes later they noticed a young couple walking their way. As they neared, the vampires made their move. Each vampire grabbed a person, sucked them dry and tossed the remaining bodies into the canal below.
The vampires were extremely pleased with their meal and decided to have seconds. Another young couple approached a few minutes later and suffered the same fate as the first -- sucked dry and tossed into the canal below.
Our vampires are now fairly full but decide to get dessert. In a short while a third young couple provides just that. As with the first two couples, these people were also sucked dry and tossed over the rail into the canal.
The vampires decided that they had had a marvelous dinner but that it was time to head back home. As they started to walk away they began to hear some singing. They were puzzled because no one else was on the bridge. As they listened, they realize that it was coming from the canal. They looked over the rail and saw a big alligator in the water under the bridge, feasting on the bodies. They listened as the alligator sang...
(HERE IT COMES)
"Drained wops keep fallin' on my head..
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:05:33 -0400 From: "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Spoilin' my ears / BGS99. Message-ID: <005e01bef36e$74c87940$d2c21c18@kez.mgfairfax.rr.com>
> >Royal Hunt. D.C. Cooper is incredible!! Paradox is an incredibly >well-thought out, well-written concept album, IMHO, and one of the finest >pieces of music I think Magna Carta has ever released. It has some great >neo-classical themes in it, and there is no over-done shred or wankery from >anyone in the band. Where is the recognition this album deserves?!?!? >It's only been a week, but I'm ranking it up there with the best of 'em. >
I will second and third the above assertions. Paradox has been a constant source of musical pleasure for me since I got it about 8 months ago. I cannot believe how this CD still affects me after all the times I've listened to it......It is one of a very few discs that I can put on at ANY time, and be totally pleased with the selection. Please, if you don't already own this, you should hunt it down at all costs. But, of course, this is all in my humble opinion. I just KNOW that someone out there will now come and slam us both for liking pussy rock, or something........ I'll wait...
Kez
Buy DC's solo disc too. VERY good stuff.
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:58:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Got my Cds Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.990831005302.25776A-100000@sparkie.gnofn.org>
Finally got my shipment of 15 well 2 were on backorder from Columbia House, Iced Earth something wicked and Slayer Divine intervention. Anyway, I LOVE THE 1st Extreme album!! It makes me feel 10 again, whcih for me isn't that long ago. I got all metal, Sepultura, Pantera Fear Factory etc. I had 13 CDs listed, 13 shipped, but there was also a bonus CD in there. Phillips Craig and Dean "fav Songs of all." What I am guessing that whoever packed my Cds in the wherehouse saw all my evil satanic heavy metal, and put that CD in to try and change me. Well, I have another CD to trade at Wherehouse to get more of a discount later. I am not bashing Christian music, I just think to put something in a shipment like that esp when I didn't order the thing, is wrong and should not be done. Just bc someone has a conflicting view does not give the right to do that. Sorry no DTC, but I had to vent.
Mutha, don't want to go.......
Kurt NP-Sepultura-Schizophrenia-to the wall METAL!!!
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