YTSEJAM Digest 5248
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Cool DT moments
by "Tristam Douglas" <tris@douglasf1.freeserve.co.uk>
2) Vega, Copenhagen, march 30th Y2K
by Simon Krogh <skr@tresu.dk>
3) Drum Click Track
by "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
4) keyboards
by Simon Krogh <skr@tresu.dk>
5) Official Bass Transcriptions
by "Rainer" <rpandean@mail.usyd.edu.au>
6) Re: Gran Turismo 2
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
7) Korn? ICP? HAH!
by "three way tragedy" <phairgirl@home.com>
8) re:Blue Man Group
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
9) Re: Korn? ICP? HAH!
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
10) KoRn/ICP
by Fett2002@aol.com
11) Re: Korn? ICP? HAH!
by "DarkHarmony" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
12) Re: Gran Turismo 2
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
13) Korn thread anyone?
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
14) Re: Korg thread anyone?
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
15) SFaM The Movie
by "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net>
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:37:03 -0000
From: "Tristam Douglas" <tris@douglasf1.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Cool DT moments
Message-ID: <001301bf5056$52ade1c0$fe30883e@default>
Seeing a guy looking at DT CDs in HMV in Leeds. Lynching him. Finding out
he is my musical kindred spirit. Many cool Jam sessions followed. :)
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Tristam Douglas
tris@douglasf1.freeserve.co.uk
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:44:28 +0100
From: Simon Krogh <skr@tresu.dk>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Vega, Copenhagen, march 30th Y2K
Message-ID: <731C028728CED11186430006290544CF09506E@NT02>
Hi, there
I'm looking for some Danish jammers planning on going to the DTshow on march
30th.
BTW. have you noticed that on LATM it only says Metropolis...not Metropolis
part I...seems like they didn't expect to go through with pt II...funny
thought:)
Simon Krogh
NP - LATM
"A good compromise leaves noone happy" -Calvin & Hobbes
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:49:02 +0100
From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Drum Click Track
Message-ID: <F999CB08F9C7D21195E30008C70D3506CC4632@julia.um.be>
Hi Jammers,
Question for musicians again... Anybody out there knows freeware that would
play a click track for me when I am practising on my drums ? I have a laptop
and I wonder if anybody has some computerprogram that can plays different
beats and measures... Would be nice. Or should I look for a commercially
available product ?
Thanks for any answer !!!
HeinV
Anybody noticed the HUGHE SFaM ad in Modern Drummer ?
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:54:05 +0100
From: Simon Krogh <skr@tresu.dk>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: keyboards
Message-ID: <731C028728CED11186430006290544CF09506F@NT02>
Hi, there
I'm thinking of buying a used synth and I've got these in mind:
-Korg I3
-Korg x5
-Korg I2
-Korg I5E
-Korg DS-8
-Roland A33 w. Roland SC88 pro
-Roland D-5
-Roland D50
-Roland D70
-Roland JD800
-Roland JX8P
-Yamaha DX7s
-Yamaha Cs1x
-Yamaha SY99
-Yamaha SY77
-Alesis QS6
-Kawai SX-280
-Technics KN3000
please privatemail comments/reccomendations to finn2@get2net.dk
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 23:58:19 +1100
From: "Rainer" <rpandean@mail.usyd.edu.au>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Official Bass Transcriptions
Message-ID: <000d01bf506a$0d7fd4a0$470f000a@rainerpa>
Anyone know if there are official transcription books of the bass parts of
all the DT albums? I've only seen the guitar versions. Thanks.
Cheers,
Rainer
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:05:25 -0400
From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Gran Turismo 2
Message-ID: <001301bf506b$3bd68320$7a5bfea9@dan>
]From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
Subject: Re: Gran Turismo 2
> Only one problem with this: Not all PSXs come with a dual shock
> controller, only the new ones. So anybody with a PlayStation that's more
> than a few months (or a year, or something like that) is SOL.
unless they buy a dual shock controller for like $15...
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:55:15 -0600
From: "three way tragedy" <phairgirl@home.com>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Korn? ICP? HAH!
Message-ID: <001601bf5093$87958180$c02d0b18@dubuq1.ia.home.com>
<<Hey, what's wrong with these bands? I was forced to listen to the new
Korn album for my school newspaper to critique it, and I actually *gasp*
ENJOYED it. It's not bad music - you're just dissing them because they're
popular. Same thing with ICP: Their music may seem vulgar and
unmeaningful to one who doesn't listen to it, but if you were REALLY
listen to the words and the meanings behind the songs, you'd see that they
put a lot of effort into their music and that they discuss a lot of issues
like domestic violence, racism, and bigotry in their albums. Try learning
about what you bash before you bash it.>>
Consider me an open-minded person for a moment. I loved Korn's first album,
but they have steadily declined since, until Issues. Honestly, their new
album isn't all that fantastic... they've basically been playing the exact
same song over and over again, just a little differently with different
lyrics. Korn is in desparate need of variety.
As for ICP... nah, they're just horrible. My friends love them, but once
again, everything they have produced is the EXACT SAME. They (for the most
part) write songs only to sell albums. And as for your domestic
violence/racism etc claims... I'd love to know where you find this. The
majority of the lyrics I've heard are about having sex with dead people,
screwing your mom and grandma, and killing your ex-girlfriend cuz she
screwed around. Granted, it's all in the spirit of amusment and fun, but
they're ADVOCATING violence to sell albums. Wheee! Never mind that they're
completely talentless. And I say that after many hours of forced ICP
listening.
Korn on the other hand... Issues is the first step to recovery from that
awful Follow The Leader album.
I want to be a music critic if I ever grow up.
---phairgirl
mail: phairgirl@home.com
HOE e'zine: http://www.hoe.nu
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:28:46 PST
From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re:Blue Man Group
Message-ID: <19991227192846.53235.qmail@hotmail.com>
I saw Blue Man group in boston a few months ago, and the three "Blue Men"
played drums, and they had one drummer in the loft (plus a stick player and
someone else who I forgot what he did =^). I'm not sure the "six drummers
and a few precussionists" thing on Leno was them, though. They're more
performance art/comedy/music than just music. Insane stuff though, very
highly reccomended.
-Banjoman
np: Gentle Giant - Free Hand (holy wow!!! Why didn't someone tell me about
these guys earlier!!!?!?!?!)
O-P, you might be thinking about the "Blue Man Group," an "avant-guard
performance rt/music" troupe from NYC. They've had an off-Broadway show for
quite a few years now (I first saw them in high school). The full show is
ery hard to explain, except that it involves audience participation,
abouttwo stomach-fulls of marshmallows, spitting paintballs, and tons of
toiletpaper during the finale! :) Needless to say, if you're in the NYC
area, skipall the "Lion King" crap, and head into the village to see this
show....andyes, they do have a CD available.
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:01:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Korn? ICP? HAH!
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9912271452310.26175-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, three way tragedy wrote:
> As for ICP... nah, they're just horrible. My friends love them, but
> once again, everything they have produced is the EXACT SAME. They (for
> the most part) write songs only to sell albums. And as for your
> domestic violence/racism etc claims... I'd love to know where you find
> this. The majority of the lyrics I've heard are about having sex with
> dead people, screwing your mom and grandma, and killing your
> ex-girlfriend cuz she screwed around. Granted, it's all in the spirit
> of amusment and fun, but they're ADVOCATING violence to sell albums.
> Wheee! Never mind that they're completely talentless. And I say that
> after many hours of forced ICP listening.
You know, if I had the time to look up all of the references, I would. But
I don't, so I'm going to leave this to Josh, who I'm SURE will be posting
to rebut these allegations you've made. Trust me, he can find lyrics and
song names to prove out points. In the meantime, check out Josh's ICP
page at http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony/ICP.html (check out
ICP5.html as well, as this is where he rebuts the things that you were
stating). Trust me, even if you don't come out with a different opinion,
it's well worth the read.
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Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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The only stupid question is the one that is never
asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about
time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer,
isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when,
in fact, I was speeding?"
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:12:31 EST
From: Fett2002@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: KoRn/ICP
Message-ID: <0.afe1397e.2599222f@aol.com>
> its too sad too. but i guess people would rather listen to bands like
> Korn and ICP!!
I'm not big on ICP at all (but I've only heard 3 songs by them so I guess I
can't really judge), but I love KoRn. They are one of the most original bands
to come out in the last 10 years IMO. They use chords that don't normally
make sense and make sense out of them. That's brilliant I think. But if
someone doesn't like them, that's cool too. I can see how people could find
them annoying. I'm just giving my personal opinion here. I think they're a
hard band for many people to understand. Oh well, at any rate everyone have a
great new year.
-Mike =)
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:46:50 -0500
From: "DarkHarmony" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Korn? ICP? HAH!
Message-ID: <007001bf50ab$890ca440$f3fefea9@guest3382>
> > domestic violence/racism etc claims... I'd love to know where you find
> > this. The majority of the lyrics I've heard are about having sex with
> > dead people, screwing your mom and grandma, and killing your
Granted, a lot of the songs are like this, but I DO consider these
particular things more-or-less original, don't you?
To know how the claims I made are justified, visit my website, as Andrew
said.
> > of amusment and fun, but they're ADVOCATING violence to sell albums.
No, no, NO! They're advocating violence because they want to hurt
somebody. You know how you get angry at someone and wat to hurt them?
This is the same thing, but on a larger scale. Why is ranting about one's
problems OK if you're George Carlin or Denis Leary OK, but not ICP? Jeez!
> > Wheee! Never mind that they're completely talentless. And I say that
They admit they have no talent. Find someone with the "Shockumentary"
video, and sit through it sometime. They admit that they have no musical
telent, but give people what they want. While the rest of us are sitting
back saying how stupid and childish they are, they went from rags to
riches. That has to count for something.
> You know, if I had the time to look up all of the references, I would.
But
> I don't, so I'm going to leave this to Josh, who I'm SURE will be
posting
I really don't need to say any more. I'll be quiet, for the time being
;)
Josh Calkin:
URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony
E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu
ICQ: 22473371, AOL IM: Mortua, IRC: Mortua
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:46:46 -0600
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Gran Turismo 2
Message-ID: <19991227.163600.14454.0.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
Yeah, at least its 2 CDS this time, I love the rally racing. The
graphics are a little smoother, but it seems they just added more cars
and features. I also got Rainbow Six for Christmas. Great game.
Kurt
NP-Public Enemy Fight the Power Live Home Video (only 2 bucks used!)
"and though it leads to nowhere,
you part debris and keep on going" - Doubledrive "Gone"
"Im inspired and content"-Dream Theater "Scarred"
45.2 % of Americans pee in the shower
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:47:36 -0600
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Korn thread anyone?
Message-ID: <19991227.164739.14454.3.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
It seems a Korn sucks/rules thread is beginning to form, so let me add my
thoughts.
I was so prejudiced against the band because everyone was wearing a Korn
shirt at my high school. The only song I had ever heard was Addidas, and
I wasn't impressed with the lyrical content. I thought they were this
big trendy band that everyone was into.
I heard freak on a leash one day on the radio, and liked it not realizing
it was Korn, I later found out and began to question myself. Then a
friend bought the CD and was freaking out because we had hated them
because they were popular, not realizing how good of a metal band they
were, and how original they are. I have since then bought all of the
CDs. I am going to see them in February in New Orleans, and will rock.
Just because people like something, a lot of people, doesn't mean its
bad. We tend to have a complex sometimes to go too against the grain, and
pop culture in general. I found something I can enjoy that a lot of
other people do.
My tip-Listen to their first CD and ask yourself what band in 1994
sounded like this. My answer: Nobody. they originated a new sound,
something which very few bands do today.
Limp Bizkit, I gave them a listen, THAT IS PURE SHIT.
Have a nice day,
Kurt
"and though it leads to nowhere,
you part debris and keep on going" - Doubledrive "Gone"
"Im inspired and content"-Dream Theater "Scarred"
45.2 % of Americans pee in the shower
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:35:38 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Korg thread anyone?
Message-ID: <000801bf50c3$224d4f80$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
Kurt Hampton didst spake:
>It seems a Korg sucks/rules thread is beginning to form, so let me add my
Oh, no. Do you want me to unsub for this so my feelings aren't hurt? :)
An' I've only received maybe ten ack mails today... Is the 'jam dying or
what? We need a good load of opinion drivers to start some real fun (and
often interesting for short periods) flame wars. Anybody here Pro-Life?
I'm Pro-Choice. Let's roll! Bring in the Swedes, um de hur de hur... Bork
Bork Bork! Woo!
BTW, is there any truth to the rumour that David Coverdale is re-forming
Whitesnake (yet again) with the brothers Van Halen and Mike Anthony?
And lastly, in the latest news, Puff Daddy was just arrested for illegal
possession of a stolen firearm. Surprise, surprise. hehehe. I've always
had my own idea of who shot 2Pac... Anywho...
-- Children of the KoRg... Uhm... X3 NP: Kenny G - Breathless------------------------------
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:41:14 -0600 From: "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: SFaM The Movie Message-ID: <000901bf50bb$7c394e20$575099d1@default>
O.K. Christmas is over and we're all sitting around waiting for the Xmas CD to show up. How about we cast the parts for who we'd like to see IF the boys were going to pony up the money to make a full length feature of SFaM. I'll go first:
Nicholas:Kenu Reeves Victoria Page:Catharine Zeta-Jones Senator Edward Baynes (The Miracle):Randy Quaid Julian Baynes (The Sleeper): Dennis Quaid The Hypnotherapist:Christopher Walken And the older man in Fatal Tragedy:James Earl Jones
Mr Portnoy feel free to put your $0.02 worth in.
Mike
Mike and Susan Verstraete www.sound.net/~homewks
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