YTSEJAM Digest 4671
Today's Topics:
1) DT is not Marvin Gay.
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
2) Moving Myung
by IceQD@aol.com
3) YTSE- MORON
by IceQD@aol.com
4) LTE West coast CDRs
by "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org>
5) Re: Biaxident in philly
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
6) Happy Birthday Mark Bredius
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
7) "instruMENTAL" - MP3 Now Available
by MaxArbot@aol.com
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4670
by RTomasi717@aol.com
9) re: Marillion help (NDTC)
by "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net>
10) Re: DT songs as make-out music ... *shudder*
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
11) Re: YTSE- MORON
by Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net>
12) Europe and tablatures!
by Henrik Hansson <hehapoco@hem2.passagen.se>
13) Hear hear! You GO boy!
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
14) Symphony X & The Laser's Edge
by "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com>
15) Re: Cheap CD
by AyameYuki@aol.com
16) Saturday Morning Prog and the nightmares it causes.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
17) Re: YTSE- MORON
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
18) Re: Superior music.
by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de
19) IRON SAVIOR "Unification" mp3s
by "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:03:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: DT is not Marvin Gay.
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990214005521.16309B-100000@otter.mbay.net>
Some how, I don't picture sex to DT going so well. First of all, with all
those changing time sigs, establishing a comfortable biological rythm
would just be crazy. Also, the heavy stuff doesn't quite say S&M to me,
but it certainly doesn't say "light some candles, drink some wine, and
give your baby a tongue bath" either. Now the Great Kat, on the other
hand, there's some boot-lickin' shit. What a fucked-up psycho bitch that
chick is. Such a shame, since a woman who can shred better than I can
would alwyas have my un-dying servitude, except if she's a dominatrix of
the first degree, who'd rather die than set you free. I mean, that nasty
Kat, she's no debutant! Now Vora Vor on the other hand, I think I just
might let her suck my blood with her vampire's mouth. Sex to From Whence
it Came? I can see that going rather well. In fact, maybe I'll have to
remember that.
DT's slower stuff, you may ask? Well, imagine if you will, having
slow hot sex to Space Divest. That's like the despairing last come.
After you're done, it's time to go get a shot gun and either do a mutual
suicide or off your lover and then yourself. Ormaybe I should just forget
all this and stop rambling, because saying all this is a sure sign that I
just haven't gotten any in a too too long. Be well.
Matt B
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 06:36:46 EST
From: IceQD@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Moving Myung
Message-ID: <257dfec5.36c6b54e@aol.com>
What happened? why dont they move around as much now as they
>did back then?
>
>Matt
Getting old perhaps? You know what they say about men in their 30s, past it!
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Also too much headbanging can give you bad arthritis in the neck ........
Ice
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 06:36:43 EST
From: IceQD@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: YTSE- MORON
Message-ID: <3fc4c4c4.36c6b54b@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/14/99 8:41:56AM, you write:
>
>
Looks like we won hands down then folks heheheheheheh
Who's Queen? We do love to wind you guys up and it is so EASY!
Fire & Ice
Strange that most of the females regularly posting to the list (now and past)
got votes though. Misogyny is the real winner here .......
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:48:50 -0500
From: "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: LTE West coast CDRs
Message-ID: <000b01be5829$2a6de0a0$c9586acf@ckssrs.axiomnet.com>
Hey everyone,
I was just curious if the two west coast LTE shows have been released on CDR
yet. I see that MP3s are floating around, so I presume that it was
recorded. So if someone does have a CDR copy of both shows (or just one for
that case) please email me (scott@erotomania.org) so perhaps we can set up a
trade! Thanks!
Scott.
www.erotomania.org/scott/tradehome.html
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:04:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
To: CptFufu@aol.com
Subject: Re: Biaxident in philly
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9902141204380.31738-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> i was there and i'm pretty sure its jordan who announces biaxident, not
> positive though so anyone else can correct me.
Jordan did announce "Biaxident"
- mike.
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:47:39 EST
From: DragynLMC3@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Happy Birthday Mark Bredius
Message-ID: <d3ebaae4.36c70c3b@aol.com>
Well... I'm baaaaaaacckk! like yall care... so hey, could someone fill me in??
Dereks out, Jordan is in, what happened huh huh huh|? what'd I miss? sorry to
be a pest yet again but would J Rasiel, master of the Ytsejam Shirts email his
addy to me, yet again, if there are any shirts left to order... ahh its nice
to be back :}
~Lisa
DragynLMC3@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/DragynsLair.html
Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say
that I have no grasp of it whatsoever - Baron Munchausen/Terry Gilliam
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:49:47 EST
From: MaxArbot@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: "instruMENTAL" - MP3 Now Available
Message-ID: <3caca952.36c70cbb@aol.com>
This is a song that I've been working on for the past few days. It's a
medley/tribute/remix of several ideas from Dream Theater songs. I mixed it as
a giant WAV file out of mostly loud and heavy parts of DT songs. So if loud
and heavy is not your cup of tea, you might want to turn your speakers down.
I could really use any feedback any has for me (preferably, nice feedback ). I
think this is the final version unless something makes me want to change it.
This is my first time making anything like this...
It is important to note that everything you hear on this song is from some
kind of Dream Theater recording. Everything. I only mixed the sounds and
songs together, I didn't add any that weren't DT.
Some purists will not like this simply because it's not the original song.
Sorry about that. Imitation is the highest form of flattery, right?
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/MaxArbot/media/mp3/mp3.html">
[eriC]
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:52:25 EST
I've heard Stern's DT bashing and honestly it pisses me off. He calls it death
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:50:46 -0700
Hi Luke. Since you liked what you heard from TSE I suggest you start with
-Geoffrey
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:14:07 -0500
Actually, my gf always tells me to "put on some good music" (which usually
Another *very* interesting album to [whatever] to ... Vai's "Passion and
Wondering why he always ends up popping out of lurk mode for the weirdest,
>You know, I really cant make the connection. eh, I guess maybe Hollow Years
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:03:11 -0500
IceQD@aol.com wrote:
> Strange that most of the females regularly posting to the list (now and past)
If you think your winning this dubious honor is simply misogyny, then yes, it is
Some people have gotten this "honor" rather accidentally; Derek Sherinian comes
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:08:35 +0100
From: Henrik Hansson <hehapoco@hem2.passagen.se>
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Europe and tablatures!
Message-ID: <36C71F33.A25@hem2.passagen.se>
Hi!
I wonder if anyone has a good tabs of some Europe songs!?! I'm specially
looking for Superstitious, Rock the Night, Carrie and The Final
Countdown!
I'm really desperate, cause my band is having this gig in the end of
March, and we have to play those Europe songs, cause the party we're
playing at is supposed to be a tribute to the 80's! So pleeeeeaaaaase,
help me!!!!
Thanks
--
Henrik Hansson
E-mail:
hehapoco@hem2.passagen.se
ICQ:
4646080
Home Page:
http://hem2.passagen.se/hehapoco
DT site:
http://hem2.passagen.se/lghomega
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:49:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Hear hear! You GO boy!
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990214144058.11420B-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Craig Griffith wrote:
> Some people have gotten this "honor" rather accidentally; Derek Sherinian comes
> to mind. However, the rest have acted specifically in an off-putting matter.
> Try looking at yourself before you cry "misogyny", as if we're all just a bunch
> of bitter men who can't get what they want from women and thus condemn the entire
> gender. I daresay that most of us are more intelligent than that.
Hear hear! I find it interesting that when women discount the entire male
gender, it's called "feminism." But if a man were to do the same thing
(even though this isn't it), it's called "chauvenism." However, what we
have here is a legitimate case of questioning one's actions, not one's
sex. And it is taken as libel against the entire female gender. To me,
that's just wrong. But I'm not going to force my morals on other people.
It actually reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend of mine a few
months back - Me, being one quarter black, and a friend of mine, all
white, had a conversation about the phrase "Black Pride." She seemed to
have a problem with it, because she said it wasn't right. I asked her why
not and she replied that if a white person had a bumper sticker on his/her
car that said "White Pride" on it, that person would then be considered a
white supremacist. I said that I didn't believe that because I have no
problem with somebody being proud of who they were. But I realized that a
lot of people WOULD have a problem with said bumper sticker because of all
the history that goes behind it. What do you all think? I think it might
be better to email me privately because this could be a potentially
volatile subject.
DTC: My CD collection is slowly growing - I've just ordered Awake
(finally) from CDnow and may go for others if I can find money. I hate
not having any.
Another question: Is Laser's Edge the cheapest source for Symphony X CD's?
I know this question has been raised but I don't remember what the answer
was. I thought about buying them from CDnow because of the benefits I can
get from it (as in $10 off...), but if I can find them cheaper somewhere
else then I won't even bother with the $10 off thing.
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Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu
http://cout.ml.org/
ICQ: 2513441
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If we could all close our eyes and imagine world
peace, think of how great that would be. At least
it would be great until all the looting started.
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:34:26 -0800
From: "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Symphony X & The Laser's Edge
Message-ID: <000101be5859$6af494e0$046400c0@oemcomputer>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ytsejam@ax.com [mailto:ytsejam@ax.com]On Behalf Of Andrew
> Coutermarsh
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 1999 12:02 PM
> Another question: Is Laser's Edge the cheapest source for
> Symphony X CD's?
> I know this question has been raised but I don't remember
> what the answer
> was. I thought about buying them from CDnow because of the
> benefits I can
> get from it (as in $10 off...), but if I can find them
> cheaper somewhere
> else then I won't even bother with the $10 off thing.
>
Not only is The Laser's Edge the cheapest place to buy Symphony X CDs, it's
also the fastest. Sure, the prices might be a bit lower at CDNow with one of
their coupons, but you might wait up to three months for your CD to arrive.
If it arrives at all. I had "The Divine Wings Of Tragedy" on order from
CDNow for over three months until I finally cancelled it and ordered it from
CDNow. I think it was a dollar cheaper at LE anyway, or something like that.
And Laser's Edge has kick-ass delivery. I ordered CDs on a Friday and had
them on Monday. Pretty cool.
Dave Thomas - Editor, Pixel Planet
Reviews of books, music, comics, movies, games, CG software, programming
tools and more!
http://www.pixelplanet.com
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:59:23 EST
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Cheap CD
Message-ID: <82f3e0e1.36c7635b@aol.com>
hey jammers,
im back again. i was out of town for an all state competition, and found this
giant mall ( with 4 sub divisions ), that had all of DT's cd's except WDADU. i
happily got an awesome copy of Awake for less than $13.00. * which explains
why im grinning like an idiot listening to "6:00 on a christmas
morning,(break),6:00 on a christmas morning" and so on. * but anyway, im still
trying to follow Innocence Faded, what are the chords exactly ? something like
E major ?
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:04:24 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Saturday Morning Prog and the nightmares it causes.
Message-ID: <001a01be5887$91066fe0$560d84d0@default>
>morning,(break),6:00 on a christmas morning" and so on. * but anyway, im
>trying to follow Innocence Faded, what are the chords exactly ? something
hehehe. I still think Innocence Faded's breakdown section after the final
chorus sounds alot like the song they used to used to use to introduce
Saturday Morning specials on ABC a long time ago. You know, the ones that
had the shows like "Bunnicula" and that one about the bald kid that made
that peanut butter shit that his friend used to make his public hair grow
all long and hang out his pantlegs.... And it had he pschedelic ABC logo
spinning around in all pretty colors...
Anyway, I digress. Just like the midsection of Metropolis reminds me of the
part where Bugs Bunny (aka Elegant Mess) is bein' chased around through the
cereal factory by Mugsy and his gang on the Untouchables spoof cartoon.
Yet, I still digress...
You know DT was raised on the same TV as we were. Perhaps if you listen
closely "Conjunction Junction" will make a brief appearance in a new DT
song. :)
BTW, I had a whacky dream last night that DT played at my high school, but
hardly anyone showed up. They were into their 5th song (I think it was
LitS) and so many people had walked out of their show that they all got
pissed, packed up, and left. :P When I tried to run around to the back door
of the auditorium to say high, I got hit by their bus, sustained massive
interal injuries, and died.
Jeez, even my dreams suck. :P
--
KorgX3 thinks John Myung played Data in "The Goonies."
NP: Ron Thal: The Adventured of Bumblefoot
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:55:45 -0800
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSE- MORON
Message-ID: <199902150255.SAA26287@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., IceQD@aol.com thus begged:
>
>In a message dated 2/14/99 8:41:56AM, you write:
>
>>
>>
>
>Looks like we won hands down then folks heheheheheheh
>Who's Queen? We do love to wind you guys up and it is so EASY!
>
>Fire & Ice
>
>Strange that most of the females regularly posting to the list (now and past)
>got votes though. Misogyny is the real winner here .......
Some say that idioticy is bliss in itself... I can't see into your
bubble of stupidity, therefore, I cannot share in your bubbling
retardation of bliss...
Some say...
It's not how successful or rich in life you are... it's how happy you are,
and from your messages, I can tell you are happy, even though both
of you (Fire & Ice) don't make up more than a 1/4th of normal brain...
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:46:48 +0100
From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Superior music.
Message-ID: <9902150647.AA08020@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi!
> Just a few more questions, bernd. :)
No problem... :)
>What's new on the horizon for Superior?
Well, at the moment we are preparing for our acoustic tour in France
that will take place next week. We will do acoustic versions of our
songs as well as a lot of cover songs.
Other than that... if you would like to have more information, just
have a look at our website at http://www.truemetal.org/superior or
join the newsletter that I send out every 2 months or so. Just tell
me if you want it and I will sign you up.
>How did you guys like touring with Vanden Plas?
That was just awsome! :) As we are friends with them this tour was
just one big party. :) We had a lot of fun and also the tour was
successful for us.
>Does you guitar stay crunchy in milk?
Of course. I mean... we use that REAL guitars, you know... :)
Bye
Bernd
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Bernd Basmer
Guitar - Superior
For information about Superior have a look at:
http://www.truemetal.org/superior
http://www.fine.de/superior
http://www.noiserecords.com
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Why be normal?
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Date: 15 Feb 1999 09:11:41 +0100
From: "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
To: blind-guardian@onelist.com, ytsejam@axnet.net, EstBards@onelist.com,
Subject: IRON SAVIOR "Unification" mp3s
Message-ID: <ubu2wo2iiq.fsf@breitweg-rem.desy.de>
Hi everyone,
Is there anyone out there that hasn't heard "Unification" from IRON
SAVIOR yet? Well now is your chance. The whole CD (plus Japanese
bonus track) is up in mp3 format at www.iron-savior.com. Ok it is
only 64kbps encoding and Mono but hell the band wants you to buy the
CD *grin*.
If you decide to buy the CDs from listening to these songs please drop
me an E-mail. That way I can let the band know that this type of
thing works for selling CDs. Thanks and have fun.
Jason
--
Currently Playing: DREAMSCAPE - Trance-like State
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From: RTomasi717@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4670
Message-ID: <c6387158.36c70d59@aol.com>
music or whatever once he hears the keys. What the hell? He gets on stage
and sings with Rob Zombie, but knocks DT. He loves Marilyn Manson, but knocks
DT. I don't get it. I lost faith in the guy. He's so repetitive and boring
nowadays.
From: "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: re: Marillion help (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199902141753.KAA25397@ganymede.aculink.net>
"Brave". Another suggestion would be "Clutching at Straws" from the
Fish-fronted era, but I would wait until the remastered version came out.
Look for any Marillion remasters, because they come with a bonus cd with
lots of outtakes, different mixes, live versions, demos, etc.
From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: DT songs as make-out music ... *shudder*
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990214131407.00a76ca8@postoffice.ptd.net>
means DT or something else we're both into) when we're going at it. "Under
a Glass Moon" was most interesting one night ... especially during JP's
solo. Not that any of you needed to know. :)
Warfare" ... *shudder* ....
most obscure threads,
Brian
>or Lifting Shadows. Certainly not something Ytse Jam or Metropolis. Id
probably
>wind up injuring myself or the gal I was boinking. I would advise
avoiding any song
>with odd time sigs when choosing make out music. Too dangerous.
From: Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSE- MORON
Message-ID: <36C71DEF.EE2AFC61@softhome.net>
> got votes though. Misogyny is the real winner here .......
to you. However, if you actually looked at the inanities and discourtesies
you've posted to the list and tried to think how we felt about them, you might
realize that it is the individuals, not the group, that are winning this. All of
these people have done something to aggravate other people, which is basically
what the poll was about. Look at the males that have been voted for: Syrinx has
flaunted his connections and can and has been rather arrogant on the jam; Max
Verran has multiple and crossposted things the list, as a whole did not care
about; Arash has plugged Empty Tremor to no end; Arman actually flamed us for not
liking Empty Tremor. Need I go on? I shall, then: You have posted private
e-mail to the list and complained about an imaginary misogyny you think is
present on Ytsejam. Your intent? You said it yourself:
> Looks like we won hands down then folks heheheheheheh
> Who's Queen? We do love to wind you guys up and it is so EASY!
to mind. However, the rest have acted specifically in an off-putting matter.
Try looking at yourself before you cry "misogyny", as if we're all just a bunch
of bitter men who can't get what they want from women and thus condemn the entire
gender. I daresay that most of us are more intelligent than that.
--
Craig Griffith: High school student, guitar player, King of Craigland
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/8509/
"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" -Ian Anderson