YTSEJAM Digest 4691
Today's Topics:
1) Rap music
by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
2) Divine Regale
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@yahoo.com>
3) The last mention of DT's new guitar player
by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
4) Vai
by "Jason Barden" <jbarden@usdbs2.usdb.k12.ut.us>
5) JOIN THE CREW!!!!!
by "Joe Bissonnette" <Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4689
by DTheater99@aol.com
7) MIME crap
by Bobby Tufino <slimegod@deskmail.com>
8) Re: MIME crap
by Der Herr Bodinger <bodinger@rocketmail.com>
9) RE: 90th Anniv JP guitar
by "-=Dennis Leeflang=-" <dl@xs4all.nl>
10) Re: MIME crap
by Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
11) Re: Mike Portnoy Sabian Setup
by "Kevin Rackley" <KRackley@weidmuller.com>
12) Labrie doing background singing
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
13) Re: Fw: Weit:Antw:WG: FW: Virus
by Younis Hilal <yhilal@cds.caltech.edu>
14) Re: Blind Guardian: Nightfall in Middle-Earth
by Younis Hilal <yhilal@cds.caltech.edu>
15) Join The Crew
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
16) Suggestions for buying CD's
by "Marco Anastasi" <mav@dns.omnia.it>
17) wav file help
by Nik Shah <nshah@vt.edu>
18) Re: MIME crap (severely offtopic)
by Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com>
19) Glass Hammer news
by Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:46:33 GMT
From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
To: the Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Rap music
Message-ID: <114B84E85@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>
>dupe the public and get rich. BUT... no more can we denounce the
>_entire_
>genra of rap than can anyone say all prog music is "fast for the sake
I agree. I reviewed LTE in my college magazine; and when it came out,
the [rap/punk/R&B fan] editor had inserted all these snide
comments, along the lines of: "This band have no right to exist,
because not only are they capable of playing their instruments, but -
how DARE they! - they actually DO play them!". This seemed very silly
to me. You wouldn't tell Picasso to stop being self-indulgent and get
back to painting flowers. You might think that Fear & Loathing In Las
Vegas is a load of directionless toss (I ceartainly do), but that
doesn't give you the right to dismiss the right of the director to
make it. You'd never find people palming off meaningless and trite
abuse in any other field of the arts, so why do they get away with it
in music? I hate Simply Red, but they're signed to EastWest, and they
sell a shit load of records. Thus EastWest has more money to spend on
developing new bands, not to mention supporting Tori and DT. It's
just that they can't be arsed most of the time.
The same guy later told me that the guitar was out-of-date and
cliched because it had been on 90% of all the records made in the
last 50 years. Okay...This from a RAP fan. RAP, which consists of
VOICE and DRUMS, yes? Which - and feel free to argue here - have been
on 99.9999999999999% of all records made in the last 50 years, and
have been in use for thousands of years before the guitar was even
invented...
My problem with rap fans is that they really do talk shit. And for the
last time, Mariah Carey/Honeyz/En Vogue and all that other rubbish is
NOT R&B. R&B stands for Rhythm and Blues, not "sugared, bland,
slightly hip-hop/soul flavoured trash". Oh wait, maybe they mean
Rubbish & Boring...fair enough.
Si
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 07:21:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Divine Regale
Message-ID: <19990222152155.14926.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com>
Anyone know the story about why Divine Regale's singer left or was
dumped?
NP:Statovarious-Live-Visions of Europe
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:06:54 GMT
From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
To: the Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: The last mention of DT's new guitar player
Message-ID: <16B860D50@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>
Hi again folks,
Seems to me that everyone's been going through their master list of
groovy guitar players, and saying "Wouldn't it be SO COOL if we had
<---> in the band??"
Fact: DT do not need a second guitarist at all. However, I can hear
that it wouldn't hurt on occaision to hire a rhythm guitar player
for the live shows on some songs. Listen to Voices on OIaL if you
don't believe me. Just to beef up the sound.
The only person I can think of who really fits the bill is Mike
Keneally, but I'm not exactly up on US session rhythm guitarists. I
dunno, can JLB play guitar...?
Si
p.s., I know MP/JP/JM never finished at Berklee, but did Derek
graduate??
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:41:45 -0700
From: "Jason Barden" <jbarden@usdbs2.usdb.k12.ut.us>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Vai
Message-ID: <B0000017369@utstbsntogd1.USDBOGDEN>
>
>>DT does NOT need more guitars!!!!!!! JP is incredible alone. Vai &
>>Satriani are ALL effects. I SUCK on the guitar, BUT I can sound like
>>Vai or Satriani with 20 effect rack AND about 15 foot pedals. Hit one
>>note & it sounds like Bach or Mozart. ANYBODY can use effects, but JP
>>is just GREAT! Probably my fav guitarist.
Sorry about this, I don't want to keep this thread alive, but the band and
album Vai really kicked my ass. The whole things is awesome, listen to
"Touching Tongues" or any of the other songs and tell me you can do that.
By the way Bozzio rules on this album.
Jason
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:15:26 -0600
From: "Joe Bissonnette" <Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: JOIN THE CREW!!!!!
Message-ID: <86256720.0058829D.00@domino.cdr.wisc.edu>
> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:55:09 +0100
> From: "Choon-Kang Walther" <choon-kang@swissonline.ch>
> To: "Aera" <willy@swix.ch>
> Subject: Fw: Weit:Antw:WG: FW: Virus
> Message-ID: <002001be5e73$9be552e0$0f5b18c3@rahelwal>
>
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
Hehehehehehe. A 50+ line bogus virus alert and in MIME to boot. Somebody
tell him what he's won.... Why it's a boatload of flamage. BTW no virus
warning that has been spread with a "TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS" message has
EVER been real. It's a hoax. They're all hoaxes. HOAXES. Stop already.
I can only take so much, then I can'ts take no more.
Biz
> >> > >PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND PEOPLE IN YOUR >> >
=
> MAILBOXES.
> >> > >AOL HAS SAID THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS HOAX AND THERE IS NO REMEDY =
> FOR
> >> > >IDIOTS PASSING IT ON. FORWARD IT TO ALL YOUR ON-LINE FRIENDS ASAP.
> >> > >
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:29:28 EST
From: DTheater99@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4689
Message-ID: <bc0bcc70.36d185e8@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/22/99 5:49:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@ax.com
writes:
<< I may be an idiot for asking this, but I don't think I remember it being
asked before. Am I hearing things or is that the introduction to A
Fortune in Lies at the very end of track 11 on the second CD? Around
2:28, just after the end of The Crimson Sunset. I could SWEAR that's
it... >>
By george I think youve got it. Yep, That would be A Fortune in Lies. The
first timeI heard that snuck in to the end of ACOS, I thought theeey were
going to actually play the song. Oh well.
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:39:06 -0500
From: Bobby Tufino <slimegod@deskmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: MIME crap
Message-ID: <36D1882A.DB2081A5@deskmail.com>
Hey, just wanted to comment on all the MIME crap that's been flooding
the jam lately. Hell, I don't even know what it actually is, but it's
annoying as fuck. I understand some people (like Neil Gallop) don't
have much choice, and that really sucks...but it still sends all that
stuff to the jam, and it needs to stop. I was thinking if you send MIME
stuff to the jam all the time, through no fault of your own, a solution
could be to get deskmail or hotmail (yeah, hotmail) or any of the other
web based email services temporarily till your MIME problem gets
straightened out. It would help decrease clutter on the jam...keep in
mind I don't know much about this stuff, but I would think that would
work. If not, then I hope someone else comes up with a better
suggestion to deal with this. 'Cause I really want to read Neil's
reviews soon (no sarcasm intended).
Bobby
NP - Rudess/Morgenstein Project "Crossing Over"
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:36:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Der Herr Bodinger <bodinger@rocketmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: MIME crap
Message-ID: <19990222173619.886.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com>
suggestion:
perhaps if we bug our esteemed moderator long enough, he will
put filters in place to get rid of all the mime gibberish while
keeping the readable part of the message. i believe the freaks
(marillion/fish) list has something like this in place...
slainte,
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:09:15 +0100
From: "-=Dennis Leeflang=-" <dl@xs4all.nl>
To: "YTSEJAM MAILINGLIST" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: RE: 90th Anniv JP guitar
Message-ID: <003a01be5e8e$76f09d80$298c6dc2@dl.xs4all.nl>
Robert Jurado wrote:
>Let's say I won the lottery
You wouldn't.....
Dennis "Stickmaster D." Leeflang
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:25:57 -0500
From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: MIME crap
Message-ID: <36D1A135.5CFDE761@frontierlogic.com>
Der Herr Bodinger wrote:
>
> suggestion:
>
> perhaps if we bug our esteemed moderator long enough, he will
> put filters in place to get rid of all the mime gibberish while
> keeping the readable part of the message. i believe the freaks
> (marillion/fish) list has something like this in place...
Why should we bug Skadz to write a script to do something like that?
People should have the common sense to make sure that their mail
programs don't send out MIME shit to begin with. It's a flat out waste
of bandwidth that doesn't belong in a mailing list forum. Almost all of
the current mail programs have utilities that will send out different
mail formats to different recipients. If you are one of the MIME
culprits, edjucate yourself. If you are going to send out e-mail, learn
what you're sending out. Plain and simple. Don't waste our bandwidth,
because you're too ignorant to learn your own computer.
-mojoman
P.S. If you're interested in fantasy baseball with
fantasybaseball.commissioner.com (cbs.sportsline's site), email me at
fmb@frontierlogic.com for the league ID and password.
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:40:29 -0500
From: "Kevin Rackley" <KRackley@weidmuller.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Mike Portnoy Sabian Setup
Message-ID: <s6d15e66.002@weidmuller.com>
I don't know who wanted to know this, but here is Mike Portnoy's Sabian =
setup from the Sabian Website:
14" AAX Stage Hats=20
10" Bell Disc=20
8" Cymbal Disc=20
6" Cymbal Disc=20
18" AA Chinese=20
10" Hand Hammered China Kang=20
16" AA Medium Crash=20
12" AAX Splash=20
18" AA Medium Thin Crash=20
8" AAX Splash=20
10" AAX Splash=20
18" AA Medium Crash=20
22" Hand Hammered Rock Ride=20
17" Hand Hammered Medium Thin Crash=20
13" AA Rock Hats=20
12" AA Mini Chinese=20
20" Hand Hammered Thin Chinese=20
Set of High Octave Crotales=20
20" x 30" Thunder Sheet
Hope this helps.
Kevin Rackley
Soul Reason
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:41:06 -0800 (PST)
From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam dream theater <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Labrie doing background singing
Message-ID: <19990222184106.22277.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com>
After listening to FW's Parallel's and reading the liner i just
realized that james labrie sings background on the song,'life in still
water'.
My question: where else can i find James doing background vocals?
later all
==
John Parks
jpyyz@yahoo.com
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:14:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Younis Hilal <yhilal@cds.caltech.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Fw: Weit:Antw:WG: FW: Virus
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990222120537.29577A-100000@swing.cds.caltech.edu>
On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> From: "Choon-Kang Walther" <choon-kang@swissonline.ch>
[HUGE-ass message deleted containing warnings about Join Crew and Penpals
viruses]
These 2 viruses are hoaxes. See http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html
for details.
That page also contains a few tips for ppl who wanna warn the rest of us
about viruses. One of them is NEVER send out such a warning unless you're
absolutely sure it's for real. If you have any doubts about a warning
you received or its source, do nothing. At the very least, you should
check virus-hoax pages on the Web before sending out a warning to the
entire world.
Younis Hilal------------------------yhilal@cds.caltech.edu
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:18:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Younis Hilal <yhilal@cds.caltech.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Blind Guardian: Nightfall in Middle-Earth
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990222121557.29577C-100000@swing.cds.caltech.edu>
On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> From: "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com>
>
> After about 2 months of waiting I finally received
> my copy of NIME from cdnow.com. (It was the
> import copy with the extra tracks which they
> had a hard time getting more of.) All I can say
What extra tracks?
Younis Hilal------------------------yhilal@cds.caltech.edu
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:36:55 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Join The Crew
Message-ID: <000a01be5ea3$1a2587e0$5b0d84d0@default>
Hehehe. Maybe some of those hyperparanoid dweebazoids will read the
subject, panic, and unsub. :D But then, maybe they'll read the author of
this mail and do the same... heh. I think I had 7 votes on that Ytse-Moron
poll... heheh. Wish it were more.
Here's lookin' to next year! :)
-- KorgX3 has a goal to acheive for 1999.------------------------------
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 23:40:47 +0100 From: "Marco Anastasi" <mav@dns.omnia.it> To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Suggestions for buying CD's Message-ID: <01be5d22$0ee7dc20$a756f3c2@mav.omnia.it>
Hello Jammers ! I'd like to purchase some Yes and Marillion albums, 'cause I don't have any of them and I think they are indispensable for anyone who wants to have a good prog culture... What albums would you suggest to buy first ? In my local CD store I found the Yes album "Tormato" and the Marillion's "Read to Reed" or something like this (Sorry for the errors in the titles but I just don't remember them correctly) and "La Gazza Ladra"... What about them ? Are they worth buying ? Thanx in advance I'd prefer personal replies, 'cause I don't always have the time to read the Jam and in order not to waste bandwidth. Thanx
Marco
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:37:38 -0500 From: Nik Shah <nshah@vt.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: wav file help Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990222173738.00798d40@mail.vt.edu>
does anybody know if there is a program that can cut a .wav file into multiple files? i have a 2 hour long .wav of a queensryche concert that i want to cut into individual songs.
-nik
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:42:43 -0500 From: Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: MIME crap (severely offtopic) Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990222174243.03b27b8c@popserver.panix.com>
On 08:52 2/22/99 -0800, you wrote:
> Hey, just wanted to comment on all the MIME crap that's been flooding > the jam lately. Hell, I don't even know what it actually is, but it's > annoying as fuck
# begin-impromptu-procmail-recipe
# something like
:0 fw * ^Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable | /usr/local/bin/perl -e 'while (<>) {\ if (!$saw_header) {s/quoted-printable/8-bit/;} if (/^$/) {$saw_header++;}\ if ($saw_header) {s/=([a-fA-F0-9][a-fA-F0-9])/pack("C", hex($1))/eg;}\ print; }'\
# ... ahem, well, or whatever. Don't bore me by telling me # which standards this would break. :) # Hmm, maybe it's not possible to process mail before it goes to the # list processor, what the hell do i know -- I never ran a mailing list!! # # wouldn't handle that annoying "qp in subject line" encoding or # whatever drainbamaged shite the flavor-of-the-hour of Microsoft's # email agent decides to tack on.. dunno how to solve that one, # it keeps mutating and metamorphosing like a fucking virus
# how about :0 * ^X-Mailer:.*Microsoft /dev/null
# %)
# I hate qp too but my pet peeve was always qp usenet posts. # Ah, those were the days.. but that's computing in the 90s for ya, # the inmates have taken over the asylum. :) # # Part 1 of tour was a blast, including Turkey!! # (No, I didn't run into any bullets) # # --- # Jens. (offline) <jens@panix.com> (http://www.panix.com/~jens/)
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:38:17 -0500 From: Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Glass Hammer news Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990222183817.006b3fe0@pop.usefulware.com>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
I've updated the Glass Hammer website at http://www.glasshammer.com/ with some more new stuff. Some of you GH fanatics may be interested in the following bits of info about the new disc, "Faith and Reason":
-- The band is finished recording the lead vocals. -- Yesterday Steve spoke with Dr. Thomas Hammit (formerly of the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra, and a protege of the late Robert Shaw). Dr. Hammit will be conducting the Glass Hammer choir. -- Featured members of the choir may include a soprano from the Metropolitan Opera. Notable roles she has played include the lead in West Side Story (she was handpicked by Bernstein for this role). Steve hasn't mentioned her name yet because he wants to make sure she can commit to the appearance. -- And, finally, the best saved for last: Prog-rockers rejoice! The talented Dutch musician Arjen A. Lucassen, best known for his work with Ayreon, will be making a guest appearance on "Faith and Reason"!
DTC: Um.....Walter from Glass Hammer loves Dream Theater (and Spock's Beard, and King's X...hehehe).
ta, Phil
========================================================= Phil Carter -- phil@usefulware.com http://www.mindspring.com/~philcarter Check out the Glass Hammer website at http://www.glasshammer.com/ "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." -- Berthold Auerbach
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