YTSEJAM Digest 4538
Today's Topics:
1) Re: my ears!
by AyameYuki@aol.com
2) Re: obviously NO taste
by AnalogGal@aol.com
3) Re: AnalogGal's amazing journey
by AnalogGal@aol.com
4) 12th notes
by "Nick Guadagnoli" <progrockboy@linkline.com>
5) Synaesthesia (short)
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
6) CD Speeds
by Uroborosss@aol.com
7) Event - Electric Skies
by "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
8) Sorry to clutter up
by Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4537
by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4537
by psull@ici.net
11) Stratovarius CDNow Backorder
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
12) Re: 12/26 Birch Hill Comments
by "Dream Theater" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
13) Re: Argh! You're making my brain bleed!
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
14) Re: Argh! You're making my brain bleed!
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
15) perfect pitch
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
16) Interesting.....
by Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@mail.legato.com>
17) Re: Stratovarius CDNow Backorder
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:40:06 EST
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: my ears!
Message-ID: <bd6af286.368fd5a6@aol.com>
ugh. that's it. im suing the CD companies...my CD just shorted out and my ears
feel strange...have no idea how it happened...its only on 2. anyone know a
good mechanic ?
anyway....i would like to see Another Day played onstage at a junior high. see
what big ass pricipak thinks of that. word of warning..dont try it at home.
that';s what your pathetic school is for.
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 16:34:41 EST
From: AnalogGal@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: obviously NO taste
Message-ID: <7519609.368fe271@aol.com>
After escaping from the handcuffs I thought I had locked before I left the
room, Mark wrote:
<< someone with obviously NO taste wrote:
<<To sum it up in just a few words.... WOW!! What an amazing
five days!! I had the best time meeting and hanging out with so
many jammers: Matt, Skadz, D-Man, Bogie, Syrinx (The best
looking single guys in the place! Whoo-hoo!!!);>>
<< For Chrissakes, not that it's in my place to comment on this subject but
... WOW !! That list includes some of the worst looking carcasses that I
have ever seen in my life. Do they even have men in NYC ??????>>
Mark! Bubbala! I would have included you in that list, too, but I wasn't
sure if you were single or not!! Don't need a jealous woman thinking I'm
after her man. ;) Besides, how can I not love these guys? Matt is my
favorite dumb blonde (and chauffeur for the evening), Skadz and D-Man are my
New Yawk crew (and they give the best hugs!!), Bogie is my hero (and I still
owe him a drink!!!), and Syrinx is my pimp ("Not with a 40 foot pole
multiplied by 200 bazillion, Mike!").
Christina
"Carpe Dentum! Seize the teeth!!"
http://www.dereksherinian.com
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 16:47:09 EST
From: AnalogGal@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: AnalogGal's amazing journey
Message-ID: <1d0cd775.368fe55d@aol.com>
CyberDuke said about the AnalogGal's Excellent Adventure:
<< That looks like hell of a time! :)
Yo girl, how about scanning some of those photos and put on some site,
maybe yours!?!
And don't forget to inform us! :) >>
Yo CyberDuke,
Yooz guys here will be da foist to know. Fuhgedaboutit! :)
Christina
"Live another day, climb a little higher. Find another reason to stay."
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:03:38 -0800
From: "Nick Guadagnoli" <progrockboy@linkline.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: 12th notes
Message-ID: <000601be376d$52cd45e0$571ed2ab@progrockboy>
12th notes *do* exist. but it's called a "hemiola" pattern, designated by
16th notes in quadruplets of 4 against 3 (not three against four)
--Nik-O the music snob
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:11:33 -0600 (CST)
From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Synaesthesia (short)
Message-ID: <199901032311.RAA00863@adam.enteract.com>
Yahoo gave a bunch of good hits on synesthesia (same thing as
synaesthesia). I thought I'd give one of the better ones I read here, for
the dude who asked, and because other people might think it's interesting
too. It's not a disease, though I hear it can cause cancer in naked mole
rats. :)
http://web.mit.edu/synesthesia/www/synesthesia.html
- Chris
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:23:08 EST
From: Uroborosss@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: CD Speeds
Message-ID: <4ac67411.368ffbdc@aol.com>
A compact disc can sound faster than normal, but it's because of the listener,
not the technology. If a piece of music sounds faster right after you wake up,
it's because of the speed of your body, not the cd, and I'm not kidding. I've
noticed this for years. Once I tried to tape a song in the morning with a tape
recorder, to PROVE to people that music is faster in the morning. I think I
was eight years old. But when I played the tape back later in the day I found
that the song had magically slowed back down to normal speed, and boy did that
piss me off. That was when I realized that the source of the changing pace was
not the song itself, but my body/mind.
Starting a song right after awakening might sound strange or distorted to just
about anyone, and I often find myself marvelling at how much faster songs
sound when my alarm goes off in the morning and the radio blasts out a faster-
than-normal tune. This is because of the state of my brain after waking up,
not because the radio station has a pitch-increasing knob on their cd player.
;)
The real challenge is trying to play along with "Take The Time" right after
getting up. Petrucci tends to get faster while I'm sleeping, and boy does that
piss me off...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 01:37 +0100
From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Event - Electric Skies
Message-ID: <199901040037.i8iB@memo-smtp.sto.sema.se>
--- Inkommet fr=E5n INFODATA.SVA0193 +46 670 160 60 99-01-04 01.37
EVENT - Electric Skies USA
Rating: * * * * * 1997
PRIVATE
Total Time: 31:26 minutes
1. Electric Skies
2. Walk On
3. Muddy Water
4. Aimless
5. Tundra
6. The Anger
7. Weatherman
8. Full of Stars
Event is:
Dave DeLuco: Vocals
Shaun Michaud: Guitars, Keyboards
Jay Rigney: Bass
Matt Scurfield: Drums
Event is a very talented four-piece band from USA, influenced by
Iron Maiden, Queensryche, Steve Vai, Dream Theater, Led Zeppelin,
Yes, Rush and Billy Joel? and that about says all about their
sound and music. Their music comes fairly close to their
influences. Maybe you could ad a little bit of Emerson Lake and
Palmer, Allan Holdsworth, Kansas, Stravinsky and UK together with
some jazz-fusion to the description too. They might as well be the
next big group beside those big names, even though they only been
around since 1996.
They started under the name Mystic Fishook, and the cover of this
CD also says Mystic Fishook, with a sticker on it saying "Event
Formerly Mystic Fishook". Nowadays the CD has been reissued with
the same CD cover saying Event instead.
The music is a combination between progressive metal and techno,
with many technically demanding finesses. The techno side of it
comes from the programmed keyboards. The guitar solo sections are
very influenced by John Petrucci of Dream Theater. The singer is
very skilled and he's singing is very passionate and heavy with a
touch of Bruce Dickinson. They can be very happy with such a great
singer. Overall the music contains very complex arrangements with
many intricate rhythms. An explanation to this could be that the
band was formed at Berklee Collage of music. But Events music is
very melodic too, with some catchy choruses.
Another amazing thing is the clearness of the production. The
sound is very crisp with very detailed separation between the
instruments. This is very advantageous to let the music come to
its full rights.
The best songs are "Electric Skies", "Muddy Water", "Aimless",
"Tundra", "Weatherman" and "Full of Stars". Yeah, that's right!
It's almost every track on this CD. Event is one of the better
bands coming out of the 90:s; they have taken the progressive
music a step forward. Get this CD as soon as possible. It can be
ordered through their website at: www.mysticfishook.com
Rumors are saying that they will be in the studio again at the
beginning of 1999. Unfortunately the release won't be before 2000.
-Reviewed by Greger Ronnqvist-
Email: greger.ronnqvist@infodata.sema.se
Snail Mail: Greger Ronnqvist
Risselasvagen 66 B
833 35 Stromsund
Sweden
ICQ No: 17275819
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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 12:00:38 +1100
From: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Sorry to clutter up
Message-ID: <369012B6.8B29465D@sydney.net>
Can Charlie F from London and
Brent R from NSW please email me with
your mailing addresses to I can get your
cd's sent :)
Thanks
GaZ
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:18:05 -0500
From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4537
Message-ID: <19990104011816.DKBJ3526@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello,
Brian said:
>I'll be just plunking around trying to come up with
>something, and realize that the last two or three notes
>remind me of a familiar song so I'll sound it out, and
>it's usually on pitch if it's one I've listened to closely
>many times
This has happened to me on two recent occasions. First, I had just got done
watching Last of the Mohicans and spent about ten minutes trying to figure
out one of the musical pieces from it without listening to the tape at the
same time. But in my typical laziness, I gave up and went back to just
practicing. Not ten minutes later, it just hit me how to play it in the
middle of doing some modes.
The second was just this past week. I was watching Buffy as I have
ever-so-religiously since the first episode and heard that "love theme"
that is played in the episodes with Angel. I love the melody but always
forget to tape the show to get a recording. So I wait for the show to end
and grab my axe, but before playing, I hum the entire melody to memorize
it. I nailed it on the second try. (Of course not having a recording means
I'm going on memory of the pitch of the melody)
I've always found it so much more satisfying to "happen" upon the riffs to
songs this way rather than sit down and transcribe the whole thing. I
figured out Xanadu, Creeping Death, and Reckoning Day (among others) this
way and its so cool to just find the riff without all that silly work (Yes,
I am a lazy sonofabitch, which would explain why music is my HOBBY, not my
life :P).
And to all who have made the smallest complaint about the Holiday Shows,
you are encouraging those of us who missed them to flame you to high
heaven. Be warned. Later!
Stodgers
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:38:50 -0500
From: psull@ici.net
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4537
Message-ID: <199901040228.VAA08232@bajor.ici.net>
> For Chrissakes, not that it's in my place to comment on this subject but
> .. WOW !! That list includes some of the worst looking carcasses that I
> have ever seen in my life. Do they even have men in NYC ??????
Dammit Mark, you're just jealous because you weren't included on
the list. ;-)
____Pat Sullivan________________
Email: psull@just-like.nu
WWW: http://www.just-like.nu
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:17:17 -0800
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Stratovarius CDNow Backorder
Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F3954@ms.kallback.com>
Hey Jens,
My Stratovarius-Destiny has been back ordered from CDNow since October.
Is there anything you could do to help me out? (Ask your distributer to
ship
some to CDNow or something?)
Clutching at straws,
Trevor
ps. Is anyone else in my boat?
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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 06:33:29 PST
From: "Dream Theater" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: 12/26 Birch Hill Comments
Message-ID: <19990104143330.21347.qmail@hotmail.com>
Yeah, but whether it be the fault of the Birch Hill or DT (which I'm
sure it was the more the club), the patrons were not aware that they
would have to stand out in the cold for 45 mins. then wait over three
hours for them to come out. Then once they came out it didn't really
matter what they did! I would have enjoyed the show if I had stayed,
but I was going to pass out by the time they started, and I'm a huge DT
fan. I just think the show was not handled correctly at all. It seemed
very self indulgent and uncompassionate to their fans. And that's my 2
cents. :)~
Mike
----Original Message Follows----
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:41:41 -0800 (PST)
Reply-To: ytsejam@ax.com
]From: MeatCakes@aol.com
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: 12/26 Birch Hill Comments
Hey...
I attended last night's show at Birch Hill Night Club in Old Bridge, NJ,
and I
agree wholely with what Chris and Damon said about the crowd. the vast
majority of the crowd was rude, unappreciative, and cranky, just like a
bunch
of 5 year olds whining because they didn't get their way. So DT didn't
put on
a "regular" show with Pull Me Under and the other harder hitting tunes.
I
think EVERYONE was well informed beforehand about the type of show they
were
playing; there was even a sign at the door that clearly said that it was
a
pseudo-unplugged show, that there would be clips from the video, and
that they
would NOT be playing PMU. If you weren't too busy making a fuss about
the
length of the video clips, you might have noticed that they played all
the
heavier DT staples in the video clips to tide over the older diehards,
AS WELL
AS several clips NOT included in the video (so to anyone who bitched
because
they could have watched it at home: you're wrong; shut up!). Think
about
it... the clips, albeit long, were better than watching the boring
kaleidoscope computer animation, a sucky opening act, or even worse...
footage
from the latest Poison tour or... (shudder) Blind Melon!
As for the infantile sit-down protest of the length of the video or the
chanting of "bullshit"... anyone that took part in that inane action
should be
ashamed of themselves. I proudly stood among the sitters, and I was
appalled
that more people did not remain standing. DT took the time to get
together
and put a show on for a five lucky crowds, and this is how you receive
them?
There are thousands of fans around the world who would do anything for a
chance to see them in the intimate setting they offered.
I'd like to end this post on an upnote, so I would also like to say that
the
show was fantastic as usual, and it was a nice change of pace to see a
show
that was a little out of the ordinary. I just wish that other people
could
realize how lucky you are to have a band like Dream Theater who cares
about
the fans and will come out to play, even when the natives are wild...
hell, if
I were in a band, I'd just say the hell with it, and not play for the
ungrateful crowd... but then again, maybe that is why I'm not in Dream
Theater. That, and the fact that I can't play 'Flight Of The Bumblebee'
on my
guitar, let alone as fast and clean as John Petrucci does.
All comments/criticisms welcome.
Rob Beaton
beatonrj@jmu.edu
Meatcakes@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:42:25 -0400
From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Argh! You're making my brain bleed!
Message-ID: <004201be37f0$72a75440$81c55bd1@eduardo>
]From: Brian D. Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Argh! You're making my brain bleed!
>In linguistics, this is known as the Critical Age theory, and is pretty
much
>completely accepted. The critical age is usually said to be seven years
old,
>after which time learning the structure of a language becomes a task of
rote
>memorization rather than osmosis/trial and error.
that's what i love about this list - there's so many peple, that there's
always SOMEONE who knows way more than anyone else wants to about the
current topic of discussion :)
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:07:50 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Argh! You're making my brain bleed!
Message-ID: <3690d9463b37497@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
Responding To: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
Original Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 06:54:25 -0800 (PST)
> that's what i love about this list - there's so many peple, that there's
> always SOMEONE who knows way more than anyone else wants to about the
> current topic of discussion :)
Hehe...and there's people around here who know a lot more about the subject
than I do...Kirby?
-Brian
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:39:06 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: perfect pitch
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809162@messaging>
<<< I have NEVER seen anybody achieve perfect pitch without being born with
it. >>>
Well, I've seen two. Me, and my friend Doug. Just for fun, we bought those
tapes you see advertised in Guitar World, just to see if they would work,
and what do you know, it did! We now can "hear the colors". The tapes just
teach you what to listen for, and once you can distinguish and memorize -
BOOM - you have perfect pitch. Now, maybe perfect pitch is easier to get
when you have a parent who has it (my mother does), but it IS possible to
get perfect pitch after being born without it.
And, yes, having that floating middle C is called relative pitch. Before, I
could find pretty much any note by its relationship to the upper or lower
notes of my vocal range. That's relative too.
David Dixon, MCP
Internet Developer
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 08:31:39 -0800
From: Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@mail.legato.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Interesting.....
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990104083139.00be0100@mail.legato.com>
Just saw this from an e-mail I got:
"TUESDAY, JANUARY 5
When the next generation asks "Whatever happened to Michael "Soybomb"
Portnoy?" the answer will probably involve some outrageous lie about his
band, Liquid Tapedeck -- who mix hard rock with irresistibly stupid social
commentary. They're hard to hate. Knitting Factory, 74 Leonard St., (212)
219-3055. 9 p.m. $6."
yeah yeah yeah, I know it isn't "our" beloved Mike Portnoy, but it gave me
a chuckle.
Happy New Year Jammers.........Goodwill and Peace to all Ytse's!
Coldfire
GalleryMistress@dreamt.org
http://www.dreamt.org/coldfire
Gallery of Shadows the Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List
galleryofshadows@onelist.com
http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows
"the way you come to me is such a mystery, I just reach out and
connect".....Mystery - Shadow Gallery
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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 08:13:11 -0800
From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Stratovarius CDNow Backorder
Message-ID: <3690E896.C2298A61@pacbell.net>
Trevor W. Hoit wrote:
>
> Hey Jens,
> My Stratovarius-Destiny has been back ordered from CDNow since October.
> Is there anything you could do to help me out? (Ask your distributer to
> ship
> some to CDNow or something?)
> Clutching at straws,
> Trevor
> ps. Is anyone else in my boat?
Well, yes and no. I also ordered Destiny from CDnow back in October and
it was on backorder for a LONG time... but I just received it about two
weeks ago, so there may be hope for you yet.
-- Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://www.dreamt.org/jessie _______________________________ Ytsejam Radio on Real Audio http://www.dreamt.org/ytseradio------------------------------
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