YTSEJAM Digest 4541
Today's Topics:
1) Where Are You Now? MP3
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
2) Bands that don't suck.
by AL <al@isd.net>
3)
by Pieter.Serruys@hydro.com
4) Slightly-shady CDR trade request
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4538
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
6) guitar speed
by "jason braswell" <funkbreath@hotmail.com>
7) Re: DT's Live Sound - A question
by Keith Lambert <lambertk@felixstowe.rms.slb.com>
8) New Year's Evil
by Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
9) This is so amusing... and some DTC just for a change!
by Chris Schulze <schulze2@mindspring.com>
10) Damon's MP3 versus record labels article
by "Agar, Jonathan (CAP, EURO)" <Jonathan.Agar@gecapital.com>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4538
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
12) Poll results
by "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de>
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 03:10:13 -0500
From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Where Are You Now? MP3
Message-ID: <4.1.19990105030002.00a21740@po7.mit.edu>
Hey everyone,
I went to the first 4 shows of the mini-tour. I recorded them all. (except
for 4 songs near the end of the show in New Haven when my microphones
somehow unplugged themselves. :P)
ANYWAYS...
I won't say too much about the shows because:
a. it's probably already been said by someone else.
b. I say everything on my new Dream Theater web site
That's right! The snowstorm in Chicago made me stay home one day so
I could work on stuff.
So, I urge all of you to check out http://dreamtheater.mit.edu/
otherwise known as Dream Theater - Lines in the Sand!
Why should you check out this site? The main reason is because it will
bring the DT trading community closer together. Once you register with
the site (registering is harmless....just your name and email addy), you
can add any DT show ever performed to your collection if you have it.
By adding a show to your collection, others who register with the web site
can see that you have a show they might want and can email you about
setting up a trade.
That is the whole concept behind the site.
In addition, I have every Dream Theater set list through 1996 on this site.
I am currently working on getting all of 1997 and 1998 right now, so I
apologize for the fact that those shows aren't up yet. I have all the dates
and cities for 1997-98, and I'll at least try to get those up ASAP.
Anyways, I know all of you are curious as to how you can get Where
Are You Now? live from Irving Plaza on MP3. If you register with Lines in
the Sand and go to the Audio section, you will gain access to downloading
the web site.
Yes, it's an evil way to get you people to go to my site, but I need some
reason for you to visit my site!
If you have questions about the site, email me. I'm trying to make my best
effort towards making trading among DT fans much easier for all of us.
-Bogie
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 03:37:00 -0600
From: AL <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Bands that don't suck.
Message-ID: <3691DD3C.F59788E0@isd.net>
I just picked up three new CD's tonight...
Superior - "Younique"
Royal Hunt - "Moving Target"
Bruce Dickinson - "The Chemical Wedding"
Here's what I think, so far..
Younique: Not bad... I need more listening time with this one. It
Didn't blow me away like "Behind," But I'm sure it will grow on me.
Moving Target: Royal Hunt is KILLER! This was my first RH purchase.
(I highly doubt it will be my last) I like it!
The Chemical Wedding: I haven't listened yet. :( I'm sure Bruce will kick
my ass. I've been reading the reviews on the Jam, so I figured I couldn't
go wrong. I like "Accident of Birth" This should be a natural.
Have I told you that Royal Hunt kicks my Ytse-ass?
-- AL... The Ytse-ProgtologistSwitchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Outside of a dog, a book is probably man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:41:39 +0100 From: Pieter.Serruys@hydro.com To: Ytsejam@axnet.net Message-ID: <412566F0.00353FC4.00@osla28smtp.hda.hydro.com>
AyameYuki wrote :
> i just got good news. im on the last 12 pieces in an 8 level program in > guitar at my school. today...i tried to tune the guitar ( a 6 string ) and hte > notes were way off. i tuned pretty high ( d,a,d,g,b,e ( the tuning for the > song im working on ) )...and i struck one note and wham. the E string snapped > in two. so i spent the next hour in my class changing 3 strings ( since the g > and b strings had to follow through. something's going on here ). anyone had > this problem with cold weather ruining one week old strings ? and any tips tp > keep the string from breaking at the expected time ? ( around 2-4 months )
Is this a dropped D tuning ? That's not so high. Maybe your strings weren't stretched enough. When you put on new strings you have to pull them away from the fingerboard, then tune them again, until the stretching stops causing the notes to go flat.
Pieter
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:44:55 -0500 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Slightly-shady CDR trade request Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990105044455.00958100@pop.wam.umd.edu>
Hey all. If the the dubbing of officially-released material makes you go into spasms of morality, please skip to the next post. If anyone out there doesn't lose their lunch at the prospect of this sort of thing, please read on.
I'm looking for a CDR dub of the following Dream Theater rarities. I should point out that what I want are dubs of the actual tracks, *not* the MP3s - I've got those already. MP3s are great to give you an idea of the music, but, as of now, very few of them are actually *as good* as a real never-compressed recording. Swishy cymbals, for instance -- who needs those? Anyhow, the stuff I want...
]From the EP 'Live Bonus Tracks': 1. Caught In A Web '96 (live) 2. Take Away My Pain (live) 3. Burning My Soul (live) 4. Another Hand / The Killing Hand (live) ]From the 'Lie' single: 5. To Live Forever 6. Another Day (live) ]From the Japanese version of 'Falling Into Infinity': 7. Speak To Me 8. Cover My Eyes 9. Take Away My Pain (demo)
All of the above tracks are from items I either missed out on buying when they were available or because they were limited release.
I'm also looking for CDR dubs of echolyn's first two albums, both very out-of-print.
In return, I can supply blank CDRs + postage, or, CDR dubs (just got a CD-burner last week) of assorted bootlegs. See my bootpage (URL below) for more info on those. Please send any replies privately so as to prevent my ass from getting excessive public disturbance flame-damage. Domo arigato.
Brian
=================================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ His Faithful Bootleg Page: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/ ===================================
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:52:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4538 Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0105105244-0b0rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>
> <<< I have NEVER seen anybody achieve perfect pitch without being born > with it. >>>
How do you know they were born with it? Ever tried asking a two-day-old baby to name that note?
:-)
Graham
-- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:01:14 PST From: "jason braswell" <funkbreath@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: guitar speed Message-ID: <19990105120114.16661.qmail@hotmail.com>
I know the subject of fast guitar playing is well covered on this list already, but I'm going to ask this question anyway. It was said on http://www.stevemorse.com that JP, on AOE, picks 32nd notes at around 200bpm. I'm not much of a musician, but my uneducated guess always put him playing 16th notes at around 215bpm, significantly slower. So, to anyone who knows (probably Ptacek among others), who's guess is better?
Jason
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 14:08:44 +0000 From: Keith Lambert <lambertk@felixstowe.rms.slb.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: DT's Live Sound - A question Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990105140842.00697c7c@felixstowe.rms.slb.com>
Keith Lambert wrote: > DT took the stage and the sound was just appalling; a big > mush, bouncing off the walls and the ceiling. John stood next to the sound > desk and even gave the sound guy a few choice "sort it out for fucks sake" > kind of looks. Anyway, the sound remained the same throughout the gig and > the show turned out to be a big disappointment.
Joe DeAngelo wrote: >>Keith, the first time I saw Dream Theater (St. Andrews Hall in Detroit, >>on the FII tour), I had the EXACT same experience. The sound was >>unbelievably awful. I (honestly) could barely tell what song they were >>playing at times. Fortunately, the next time I saw them (same venue >>about 6 months later) it was probably the best concert I've ever seen, >>and the sound was impeccable. I also saw them open for ELP/DP, and they >>sounded good then also (although the sound was too quiet).
Joe, your comments (and thanks for the reply...) only highlight my original questions. Why should the sound be so drastically different in the SAME venue on different dates???? Can anybody answer this one? We all know that DT's live sound can be outstanding so why the blips?
Cheers....Keith.
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:31:05 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: New Year's Evil Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.990105102907.27704A-100000@archa14.cc.uga.edu>
Supwitchall-- I know some of you were going to NYE, but I still haven't heard anything about it :( Someone either post something or mail me privately, will ya? Thanks :)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Album Currently Playing: Metallica--Garage, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Smith ktulu@arches.uga.edu
"Symphony X is the musical equivalent of the Hammer of God." -Joe DeAngelo ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 10:34:55 -0500 From: Chris Schulze <schulze2@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: This is so amusing... and some DTC just for a change! Message-ID: <3692311F.BEAC5696@mindspring.com>
AyameYuki said: << i just got good news. im on the last 12 pieces in an 8 level program in guitar at my school. today...i tried to tune the guitar ( a 6 string ) and hte notes were way off. >>
Why, I thought you had perfect pitch.
<< so i spent the next hour in my class changing 3 strings ( since the g and b strings had to follow through. something's going on here ). anyone had this problem with cold weather ruining one week old strings ? >>
Folks, I guess all the good wishes towards AyameYuki are working just fine ;)
DTC: I heard from a reliable souce (involved in the album) that the James LaBrie solo album recordings have been going on for a little while now. Most of the songwriting was done by some very well known people from your favorite Magna Carta bands. I was surprised how they kept it a secret for this long, I would think the hype would actually help album sales. No release date yet as far as I know, I just thought I'd let people know that it could be out sooner than most people expect it - if the people involved don't have to stop too frequently to do things with their own bands (or somebody doesn't get too much into perfectionism heheheh).
Waiting anxiously for LTE II...
^Christian wonders what Kevin Moore is up to - has he finished up that filming school yet?... will we ever see other musical efforts from him?...
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:48:06 -0000 From: "Agar, Jonathan (CAP, EURO)" <Jonathan.Agar@gecapital.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Damon's MP3 versus record labels article Message-ID: <83E9BD6E053FD111B35A0000F6093E27BE5B57@LON01XBCAPGE>
]From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com <mailto:dfibraio@home.com> > To: ytsejam@axnet.net <mailto:ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: The Radiohead Effect >> >> Jason McCabe Calacanis >> Editor, Silicon Alley Reporter >> >>In the past month, the debate over the MP3 file format boiled over, >>changing the music industry forever. The revolutionary rap group >>Public Enemy got into a heated battle with PolyGram records when
-oOo- This is interesting stuff, and I'm sure Richie Rivera will be able to give his industry views, but it's essentially the same issue that George Michael had with Sony. Record labels make artists sign multi-album contracts at the beginning of their careers, so that if the particular artist is the one hit among the ten misses, the profit on the hit performers will repay the marketing costs of the misses. George Michael objected to getting such a low percentage of his later albums when he was a star artist, but hey, he was a grown-up and he signed a contract. If he could have found a label which believed in him more, he should have signed with them. If anyone thinks they can start a label which can give as good promotion and distribution while offering better terms to artists, they should do so.
That's the status quo. If the internet is easy enough to use so that consumers can find the stuff they're interested in without all the promotion that labels do now, good luck to the MP3ers. But the Spice Girls and their like are always going to need more than the internet alone can give them, so the labels will still be around.
As for this Silicon Alley Reporter and his Radiohead download-for-free idea, I don't think 'well, they'll get money from me 'cause I'm in a city and can go to their gigs and buy T-shirts - oh, and I might tell my friends' is a business model that's going to interest artists or labels. Expect a lot more site suppression by the copyright holders.
Jonathan (not speaking officially for GE)
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 07:55:53 PST From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4538 Message-ID: <19990105155553.23882.qmail@hotmail.com>
hi all, one of the coolest things of the last 10 jams: Chris goes out to make us learn.(Finding the synestesia url). I appreciate that. You made Birch Hill more bearable.
Christina, I didn't realize you were Christina, but I'm glad we met anyway. I like Event by the way. I haven't gotten really into it(because thanks to 800.com I have 10 new cd's to choose from and there was x-mas), but the sound sounds very professional and that's no minus.
Trevor, I'm waiting for Destiny as well, since 10/17 I believe...
12th notes, Mirror in C, I trying to make up something as hilarious as that, but maybe I'm not creative enough. Japanese when you play Hell's Kitchen backwards? I saw John Myung telling a joke? That's too obvious. Well I want to share the thought at the beginning of December, when we had 70 degrees."I'll always remember, the chill of November"
Very funny, does anybody have used Hockey equipment, that he wants to sell or give away?
For NY area. When I went to Revolver Records in the city on Sunday, they has a studio recording of early MSG with BILLY SHEEHAN. A couple of jams from 1978 I believe. The store is on 8th street west between 5th and 6th ave.
"Every cowboy sings a rose song thorn"
schnipp - the guy with the hat
NP Garth Brooks- Live
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:53:52 +0100 From: "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Poll results Message-ID: <000b01be38c3$97b9d8b0$2fa1bd9d@pcnga.software-ag.de>
Hi all
here are the results of the Ytsejam top album of 98 poll.
1. Liquid Tension Experiment - Liquid Tension Experiment 69 points, 18 voters, average vote 3.83
2. Dream Theater - Once in a Livetime 58 points, 21 voters, average vote 2.76
3. Shadow Gallery - Tyranny 37 points, 12 voters, average vote 3.08
4. Spocks Beard - The Kindness Of Strangers 29 points, 8 voters, average vote 3.62
5. Symphony X - Twilight In Olympus 24 points, 10 voters, average vote 2.40 Superior - Younique 24 points, 8 voters, average vote 3.00 Savatage - The Wake Of Magellan 24 points, 7 voters, average vote 3.42
8. Rush - Different Stages 23 points, 9 voters, average vote 2.56
9. Explorers Club - Age Of Impact 21 points, 7 voters, average vote 3.00
10. Bruce Dickinson - The Chemical Wedding 18 points, 5 voters, average vote 3.60 Chroma Key - Dead Air For Radios 18 points, 4 voters, average vote 4.50
12. Genesis - Archives box set 17 points, 4 voters, average vote 4.25
13. Fates Warning - Still Life 15 points, 4 voters, average vote 3.75
14. Tori Amos - From The Choirgirl Hotel 12 points, 4 voters, average vote 3.00
15. Marillion - Radiat10n 11 points, 5 voters, average vote 2.20 Therion - Vovin 11 points, 3 voters, average vote 3.67 Joe Satriani - Crystal Planet 11 points, 3 voters, average vote 3.67
18. Metallica - Garage, Inc 10 points, 2 voters, average vote 5.00 Ayreon - Into The Electric Castle 10 points, 3 voters, average vote 3.34
20. Anathema - Alternative 4 9 points, 2 voters, average vote 4.50 Angra - Fireworks 9 points, 3 voters, average vote 3.00 Rhapsody - Symphony Of Enchanted Lands 9 points, 4 voters, average vote 2.25
23. Anthrax - Vol. 8 The Threat Is Real 7 points, 3 voters, average vote 2.34 Blind Guardian - Nightfall In Middle Earth 7 points, 3 voters, average vote 2.34 Rage - XII 7 points, 2 voters, average vote 3.50 Money For The Toll - Do's Cup Of Tea 7 points, 2 voters, average vote 3.50
27. King's X - Tapehead 6 votes, 2 voters, average vote 3.00
The remaining albums were mostly voted for by only one person. If this is not the case, the number in brackets behind the title shows how many people voted for a particular album.
5 votes:
Biomech - Ocean Machine Edguy - Vain Glory Opera The Gathering - How To Measure A Planet Steve Howe - Quantum Guitar Chris Isaak - Speak of the Devil Monster Magnet - Powertrip (2) Spiritualized - Live At The Albert Hall Yes - Keys To Ascension II
4 votes:
Bela Fleck And The Flecktones - Left Of Cool (2) Black Sabbath - Reunion (2) Brad Mehldau - Songs Drown - Product Of A Two Faced World Ellis Paul - Translucent Soul Kamelot - Siege Perilous Madonna - - Ray Of Light Nightwish - Oceanborn Portishead - Roseland NYC Live Power Of Omens - Eye Of The Beholder Stratovarius - Destiny (2) Sunblaze - Illuminating Heights Theatre Of Tragedy - Aegis Trans-Siberian Orchestra - The Christmas Attic
3 votes:
Crises - Broken Glass Francis Dunnery - Let's Go Do What Happens (2) Event - Electric Skies Fear Factory - Obsolete (3) Paul Gilbert - King Of Clubs Patty Griffin - Flaming Red IQ - Subterranea Pulp - This is Hardcore Stratovarius - Visions Of Europe Sentenced - Frozen Soulfly - Soulfly Within Temptation - Enter Yes - Beyond And Before
2 votes:
Beck - Mutations Jerry Cantrell - Boggy Depot Kansas - Live on King Biscuit Flower Hour King Crimson - Absent Lovers Magnitude 9 - Chaos To Control Dave Matthews Band - Before These Crowded Streets (2) Meshuggah - Chaosphere Misanthrope - Libertine Humiliations (2) Midas Touch - Last Rites Ozric Tentacles - Spice Doubt Page & Plant - Walking Into Clarksdale Sheavy - The Electric Sleep Sixpence None the Richer - Sixpence None the Richer Slayer - Diabolus In Musica
1 vote:
Jon Anderson - The More You Know Barenaked Ladies - Stunt Bruford/Levin - Upper Extremities Jeff Buckley - Sketches for My Sweetheart the Drunk Juliana Hatfield - Bed Kiss - Psycho Circus Lacuna Coil - Lacuna Coil Yngwie Malmsteen - Live!! Kari Rueslatten - Mesmerized Zero Hour - Zero Hour
The surprises for me are the complete absence of Platypus from the list (I thought some of you guys liked the album) and the relatively high number of live albums. Have fun listening to the stuff you don't know - I'm sure I will.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine
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